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Pic related: The skrama, a heavy knife mostly meant for chopping wood and similar things, but also usable as a common knife. The concept seems pretty similar to the kukri to me, and I was wondering what /out/ thinks about it. Which one is superior, forward curved or (almost) straight blade? What are the advantages and drawbacks?
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Seems like a half decent design to me I would love to see one in person now
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If you have a kukri on /out/ people will give you shit but if you have a skrama they will say
>oh shit, they're back in stock?
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>>628417
I might have to forge one for Myself I like the look of it
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I'm really not sure how to feel. On the one hand my state has thousands of free campspots but on the other they are so plentiful that we all feel OK about trashing them.
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Do you shit right next to your campsite?
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Looks like a homeless camp.
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>>628407
Homeless/vagabond anon here. Actually in my experience its the inbetween people that do this. They're like the people camping one time a year, be it a hobo who goes up to the national forests or a family of 5 and the neighbors. They aren't there all the time and don't think about it plus when it comes time to do something with the trash they just toss it in a pile of collected litter before the highway assuming its fine. I mean, realistically every story is different, but we shouldn't give up our national forest/blm rights as citizens. Its everyone's forest.
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I need some advice for /out/ this week.
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So I want to spend the week /out/, but I'm used to warm weather. Here's what I've got:
Knife, camelbak, dirty bag, Sawyer mini, duct tape, salt.
Everdry (dryer lint and wax), lighter, duct tape, two hand warmers, Mylar cheapo.
GI poncho, hammock, SOL escape bivy, thermalite extreme liner.
Milspec polypros, wool gloves, merino beanie.
I'll also be bringing a mat, but haven't decided whether to bring a closed cell or inflatable one yet.
Now, the SOL bivvy is rated at 50F, and the thermolite is rated at adding 25F, and the low for this week is 26F, so I'm borderline there. I don't know how well the polypros work, but I've got down to 40 in the bivvy/liner without them. Is this suicide?
Not pictured, I'm getting a steel cup and sterno can for soup and hot drink, not sure what I'm packing for food, but that's my cookware limitation. What would you eat?
I'm trying for 3-5 days, won't be going too far from home at least for the first night, and this isn't in forestry land, so no fires. Any other advice you want to offer is welcome. Also, it's going to rain.
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>>628305
I forgot to add that I know better than to wear any cotton, and I'll be picking up some underlayer.
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>>628305
>Also, it's going to rain.
EXTRA SOCKS.
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>>628305
You're gonna be cold dude. I slept in the sol bivvy w/fleece liner for a few months it was great for summer but once it hit the 40s at night it wasn't enough. Even with my clothes on. I would seriously consider matching your bivvy with a 40 degree down bag. You'll never regret being warm at night. Also weight/durability wise, get a thermarest zlite. It does great for heat reflection and lets be honest; neo thrashers are too loud.
recommendations for boots and rain/wind breakers?
i live in the city, but i spend an enormous amount of time outside, and occassionally trek out to the appalachian for some exploration.
im looking for an affordable rain breaker i can throw over sweaters and shit while im in the city on rainy days, but also some affordable boots i can use once the snow and rain gets to me too much come june. i cycle a lot so that has to be a consideration in whatever pair i scope out.
any suggestions and ideas?
in return, girls
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>>628303
I got a north face rainshell for like $25 on sale from the north face outlet. Marmot Precip is also super good and if you do a bit of looking you can get them for less than $50. As far as boots I like both my salomons and my columbias.
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These work for me pretty well. It's important to look the part whereva wheneva . you do have to wear plastic bags over your feet doe to keep dry. Bread bags work great
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>>628303
>in return, girls
That is no way to treat a lady.
Or a book.
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Hello /out/, I need your help. I hope I don't break any boardrules/culture with this post.
I am completly new to going camping in the woods. I camped a few times with my dad at official camping spots but I never went into the woods on my own to spend a few nights there.
Can you recommend me some stuff (and brands) that I will need to spend a few nights in the woods somewhat comfortable.
Hunting food is out of question because I life in germany. Tents are a no go aswell, because that would break the law.
I hope you can give me some tips/pointers so I can become a sc/out/ aswell.
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>mora
>paracord
>hammock
>tarp
>titanium spork
>feller's axe
and pic related should keep you comfy for years to come. :)
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>Tents are a no go aswell, because that would break the law
What kind of shelter are you allowed to have then?
The only real differences between 1 night and 3 are your food, water, and toiletry requirements. Depending on length you may need a filter, or you can pack in all your water. If you are walking anywhere I would bring some sort of water purification just in case something goes wrong. A sawyer, life straw, or iodine tablets can fulfill this. For long trips where I know I'm going to filter a lot of water I prefer a pump style with an adapter to fill my bladder through the drinking tube instead of removing it from my pack.
Stuff:
Sleeping bag (+pad if sleeping on ground)
Folding chair with arms and cup holder
flask+favorite spirit
dining set- fork, knife, bowl, and cup are all you NEED
cookset- portable stove, one small pot and coffee pot if you so desire
toilet paper, soap, toothbrush+paste, first aid kit
A cigar
A book
Flashlight (LED headlamp preferable for reading)
Fire making materials (ferro rod, lighter, tinder, firestarters, etc)
A knife
Extra rope
Extra socks and underwear
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>>628314
Thanks for the input.
when i just build a roof over me I won't get punished as hard as having a full tent build up.
Can you recommend any sleeping bags + pads?
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Will picrelated actually work?
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>>628112
Probably just going to smother & smoulder. One way to find out though..
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What is that shit?
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If the base fire is strong enough, yeah.
You're better off with a bonfire though; that one looks like a lot of work or a lot of luck. And getting fresh wood to the right spots would be a bitch.
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Montana Bros which pattern would be better for Montana?
Also Montana General show our beautiful state.
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>Butte
taken last Tuesday
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>>628065
If you're hunting and not just camo-fagging, then the mountains of Montana Idaho and Washington are all pretty much the same. Darker greens work well. Most of the paintballers have better luck on treed arenas with marine camo than anything.
If you are camo-fagging, then I believe realtree with a very large blaze orange logo is what's in this fall.
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>>628078
This
Also checking in,
>pic from steamboat mountain area.
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hey /out/
im going hunting soon for the first time. nothing major just some cotton tail. however ive never killed anything before and it kind of makes me feel ill thinking about it. i know its hypocritical because i eat meat but i cant help it.
how do i get over this feeling? kill lots of shit?
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>>628000
You don't. You either go with it and pull the trigger and come to terms with the fact that you'll have a dead animal on your hands, or decide that you're better off shooting paper targets.
Your call.
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You can't help feeling like a faggot because you have been living that life in this rotten world. Blast those fuckers until there is nothing left. It's cathartic
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>>628000
If you enjoy killing something then there is something wrong with you. I have been hunting for 14yrs now and I never like killing. I enjoy the rest immensely but not the actual killing the critter part. If you need to hunt then do so. If you do not then don't. Guns are just as much if not more fun to use at targets any ways. I like shooting steel targets all day long far more than shooting once on a 3 day long hunt
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/out/ how do you completely remove yourself from people for a wilderness camping trip? I'm thinking Alaska or upper Michigan, but I want to be away from people COMPLETELY.
I don't want to stray onto private property or something, I just want to go to where no people are and camp out on a river; fish for some trout or something. Sure you can go on camping trails but they are still full of people and you have to deal with potential encounters with the law.
tl;dr give me your advice on getting away from everyone completely. Any stories are appreciated.
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national forests, its called dispersed camping. ive never had a problem, you drive in deep until you are on dirt path forest roads, park the car and start hiking in. get a motor vehicle use map from the particular forests website, a fishing license, and plan out a spot. some parts will have larger spaces between forest roads so aim for those. keep in mind there are some forests specific rules and all forests dont want your camp 100-400 feet from a water.
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also you can generally legally stay in one spot for something like 14 days, then you must at least move your camp a mile away, and you cant go back and forth between two, but you could probly be ok touring the forest like that
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How far are you willing to drive and walk?
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Here are my (few) photos from the last fishing trip i did. This is the São Francisco river in Brazil. This bioma is called ''Caatinga'' (i means white forest in native Tupi language) and it's a unique brazilian biome, characterized by the semi-arid climate with long drought and small bush trees who rapidly gains foliage when it rains, a big and pretty explosion of life. Nowadays, we've being facing a terrible 5 years drought..
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Keep em coming.
Whose bright idea was to make one of the most poisonous shrubs known to man common landscaping filler?
You could get a higher body count than 9/11 off of one hedge, yet they post them around my University like it's nothing.
I suppose they just correctly assume no one knows about how deadly they are, but I am shocked no would be murderer hasn't lucked into googling a free infinte source of super poison.
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just don't eat it you fucking tard
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>You could get a higher body count than 9/11 off of one hedge
Not even close m8, unless yoiu are talking about hedges like pic related
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>>627731
Yew can eat the berries, just spit the pit.
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So I want to put together a pack to be used for hiking, fishing, and day camping (this is not a bug out bag or any survivalist stuff, just for day trips). I just need it to hold the basics (stuff like food and clothing will be decided trip by trip), so I started to throw a list together of stuff to put in it and I wanted a second opinion on stuff I nay or may not need.
I live in a forested area of southern ontario and i tour up north above the great lakes at least twice a year.
So far i have;
Flashlight
Headlamp
Lantern
26"hatchet
Collapsable saw
First aid kit
Telescoping fishing rod and reel
Tackle
Esse 4
Leatherman surge
Flint striker and a couple bic lighters
Tinder ( cotton swabs and vasilene)
Cordage
Mess kit
Microfibre towel
Water filter
Extra batteries for lights
Notepad/pencil
A guide book of edible and useful plants of my area
Ziploc freezer bags to waterproof and organize
As for the pack itself im not 10%sure what ill use. Theres a surplus store near me so i might try their for a cheap canvas type one, it just needs one big compartment and the ability to have a hatchet strapped to the side of it.
Let me know what im missing, or post what you have in your pack, or even a pic would be great
Pic related is the kind of pack id buy, its a bit hipster-ish so its probably expensive as fuck but it seems functional
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Do you really think you'll need a flashlight, headlamp and lantern for what I can only assume are day trips?
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>>627628
Lol yea shouldve mentioned that i do alot of nighttime fishing. And in the late fall through early spring it gets dark at like 5 around here
The lantern is a maybe, headlamp and flashlights are definetly needed
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>>627624
>Lantern
>26"hatchet
>Collapsable saw
>Esse 4
>Flint striker and a couple bic lighters
>Tinder ( cotton swabs and vasilene)
>Cordage
>Microfibre towel
>Water filter
>Extra batteries for lights
Don't know why you'd need those for day hikes in southern Ontario. I know it gets dark early and quickly around here this time of year, but you probably don't need both flashlight and headlamp.
I would add water bottle/bladder, and in the cold half of the year, a thermos or something for hot drinks/soup (the Urban Elements Tea Tumbler MEC sells is great for coffee, even fits in a bicycle water bottle holder, and I just got a Thermos King soup jar from Crappy Tire that's pretty good).
>>627633
>Lol yea shouldve mentioned that i do alot of nighttime fishing
OK I can see the point of a lantern for that. I like my UCO candle lantern, or you can put a diffuser on your flashlight (white plastic pill bottles work pretty well).
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I made a cinnamon based mosquito repellent using alcohol as the medium. I gotta say not only does it work but it leaves the little shits so dizzy you can just pick them up. I imagine what's happening is that when the mosquito spits to apply the histamine, the layer of cinnamon essence left on the skin mixes with the spit and evaporates right on their faces. That's good and all but the solution evaporates too fast when trying to apply it, and it wears off too soon as well. Is there a way to make this a little bit more... oily? Using actual oil as the medium proved to be a disaster, mind you, I suppose because the spit doesn't mix with it. I'm thinking soap for lack of a better option, but I was hoping to get some good suggestions here, any ideas?
Also bug repellent general.
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You could try diluting cinnamon essential oil in water and spraying that.
I believe peppermint oil repels them too... or I could be thinking of different bugs.
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>>627589
Also, pine, lemon eucalyptus, and basil oils work as well.
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I use DEET, everything else I've used has failed to work.
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Greetings comrades,
This January I'm taking the Fish and Wildlife conservation 2 year course, up in Canada, Ontario. After, I intend to take Natural Resources and the Law. Why? I have this unfaltering duty inside of me to protect mother nature from poachers, and direct and indirect human impact. The strongest argument I have; is this planet of ours, so stupendously vast in its eco systems, terrains, and life, it seems almost foolish to want to negatively impact it, when there is not a single planet that we know of , that is diverse as this one. / besides the paperwork doing routine patrols in mother natures backyard sure seems imperial, too.
The Native people believed all was equal, as a spider web layout. not pyramid.
What are your thoughts comrades? advice perhaps, wisdom you wish to share?
Here is one advice I have heard a retired Conservation Officer of 30 years say: "In all my 30 years , I have learned that being reasonable is the right way to go- it applies everywhere."
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>muh Indians
>muh enviro nazi
How about you choose to not be a fascist welfare pig instead?
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>>627581
^this^
I love nature just as much as any other /out/doorsmen but seriously, quit with your SJW fascist stance, you only deter people from wanting to protect it.
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>>627563
That career path sounds like a desk job. Unfortunately lawyers nor their underlings get to work from Yosemite.
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Alright /out/, I'm in the process of re-building my first aid kit. I spend most of my time in central Ontario, Restoule-North Bay area. Sometimes out for week long stretches. What would you carry on you?
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Probably heroin
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Ibuprofen
Aspirin
Adhesive bandages
Lugols's iodine
Irrigation syringe
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>>627516
I forgot diphenhydramine or whatever antihistamine you desire.