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Stuff Sacks: do you use them while backpacking? Pros/Cons? Tips to use? How to live without?

Im debating if they are worthwhile and figure I should ask my favorite board.
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I use them only for my sleebin bags. I suppose organizing them so socks/undies/undershirts are all in one and outwear is all in another would help save space, but honestly unpacking those things is kind of all-or-nothing affair.

I tether my sleebin bags to the oustide of my (external frame) pack, so I really have to have a layer of protection on my stuff. Get a nice easy, lightweight comprssion sack and you're good to go. Really gotta keep dirt, moisture, buggies, etc. off your sleeping stuff. I did one 3-day hike using a trash bag wrapped around my fleece sleeping bag and it was absolute shit. Replaced it with pic related tout-de-suite. Much better
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>>684748
I only use one for my sleeping bag as well, it saves a ton of room.
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Thanks for the replies!

ITT: We discuss experiences with pack goats, pros and cons as well as potential uses
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Never seen goats, but seen lots of llamas
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>>684509
Tell me about it
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>>684517
See them at least once a year in the Sierra on the trails
I think they are pretty foul tempered
Sometimes the people look unhappy they decided to use them
I think they are supposed to be sure footed though

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I just spent a night in a snowpit in -15 temperature with a -50 windchill because I got lost while skinning. AMA
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>>684497
did you died? what was your sleeping bag rating?
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>>684497
that looks comfy, quit being a little bitch.
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...skinning?

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I've seen a lot of threads mention or focus on camp stoves but none specifically for backpacking bio stoves. Have you had experiences with them; if so which? would you buy one or do you regret buying the one you bought? Are they useful or useless? Image related; the Firebox G2 popular backpacking stove.
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There are 3 stove threads already up
You are either too stupid to search the catalog, or you are a shill

sage
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I want to design and build a folding one (i have a friend with a plasma cutter)
So, what i should take in consideration to make the best one?
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>>683998
I already said I saw that there were threads that mentioned or focused on camp stoves. I also said that none of them focused specifically on /backpacking bio stoves./ Read entire posts and follow that up with thinking a little before you comment.

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Whatcha' think about it? Anyone have any experience hunting with the thing?

I'm gonna make one, one of these days, and I do know that it's a good enough weapon to stay in active use well into not-so-long-ago.

Also general primitive thread.
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I tried to make one as a kid after I read the clan of the cave bear books, had marginal success but I mostly screwed around with bows. Big upsides to an atlatl is they are simple to make, and spears are more durable than arrows so I could see it being useful in a survival situation. I think the handle should have loops for your middle fingers on it to reduce hand strain and make it a better arm extension.
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>>683980

That and it's pretty fucking powerful.

I mean, our forebears were naturally stronger than us but it doesn't diminish the fact they hunted mammoths with that thing.

Another advantage of an Atlatl is that its kinetic energy (poundage) is determined by the projectile and not the thrower itself, contrary to bows. Means it's far more versatile and allows for multitude of projectiles for varying kinds of game.
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>>683983
i think that it has about the same power as the sling,with pierce damage added,and generally less accuraacy tho

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Its so good to hear a human voice while innawoods and to be able to shut it off when you needed... ahh
Post podcast you hear and why. Audiobooks. Etc
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i like listening to RTE documentaries or podcasts, usually cover historical occurrences and interesting events that happened within the last few centuries with a more detailed analysis.
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I'd rather keep my ears active on my surroundings than cocoon myself in an audio hugbox

I'm not a millennial though, so I don't need my electronic umbilical cord where ever I go
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Good post op I'm gunna check out the rte docs when I get home and load em down ready for my next out adventure next week.

Keep good suggestions coming.

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I have managed to get a case of poison ivy and wondering what you people do to treat this awful stuff.

Learned a valuable lesson, do not split firewood that you did not harvest yourself.
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>>683226
you can make a tea from the leaves to build immunity to it, be careful not to get any on your hands because thats how its spreads to the pecker
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>>683237
FFS!!! No i wont be trying that. This aint /b/
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Hey /out/.! Do any of yall B.A.S.E. or skydive? Im interested in finding new spots and meeting new people interested in falling off shit without dying. Pic isnt me but I mostly have antenna jumps.
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Where are you?
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>>682643

Skydiver here.
> started in 2014
> had to leave for a year due to work.
> started getting back into it this year.

Did a jump today and doing one tomorrow.

I haven't been on /out/ for a while and I'm pretty happy to see this thread.

I usually participate in the scuba threads or make threads on search and rescue tracking.

Good to see a skydiver on /out/ what's your DZ?
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>Antenna jumps
Is there a way to do this without possibly fucking up your eyes with RF?
Some TV antennas are several million watts, i'd be a bit worried about standing near one.

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So what do you guys do as an outdoor related hobby, if im sitting around inside i feel like im stagnating pretty quick and usually go out and do something
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Hunt, fish, backpack, hike, walk my dog and camp. During winter months I'm taking a lot of classes, so I get pretty bad cabin fever.
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>>683112
OP here , as i live in the UK and hunting is illegal and fishing is a pain where i live legality wise i do a lot of walking but with 10 days of constant rain the woodland area i live in is shitty too and most is inaccessible so right now im feeling pretty cramped inside. This winter though me and a friend of mine have been getting into urban exploring and that's been fun it's just sometimes finding a way to pass the time until i can get /out/
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Just bought a kayak for fishing.

What are some good places to fish in north florida (fresh/salt)?

Where do you put your catch?

What are some nice modifications/accessories?

Kayak general, post kayaks and tell OP it's a good purchase for a poorfag
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I was a poorfag when I got my pescador
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>>682249
How much did you spend i was thinking about doing this sence i drive a suv and i live near the beach to practice useing it. But would love to fish from it
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>>682285
only about $360 on the kayak, it'll probably end up around ~450 once I get all the gear to go with it.

Not bad for a decent boat

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How does /out/ feel about full time RV off the grid living?
I plan on selling everything and living in a van and moving from place to place and camping much of the year.
Anyone else interested in this kind of life?
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>>681449

You'll end up spending a shit ton on gas. Enough so you could find a place to live.
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I'm definitely down for off-grid and getting away from the hustle and bustle. But, honestly, to be on the road a lot seems like it's a lot of work and very tiring.

If I were to be honest with myself, my attempt to go RVing would really just result in me staying in one spot for an extended period. So, why not just go toward that. Live in a small, low-cost place and that's it.
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It's a good dream to have, but it really only fits after retirement, when you've built comfortable bank accounts to afford the expenses of living on the road.

I've got an aunt/uncle that are full-time RV'ers. It can be done, but unless you've got the funding to make it happen, it's not realistic.

I need a bag that i could carry on my back with all my gear for camping for a few days but i need it to also not look ridiculous for a bag to carry my books in at college. It also needs to be under or around 50 dollars. Does /out/ have any advice.

Also the picture is of a bag i would like to get but the frame on it is not removable
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>>681050
>for a few days
You are talking 40L+ category for a few days, that is to big to make for a comfortable college daypack.
Just get a cheap Eastman or Jansport for college and a hiking pack for outdoors.
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The answer is always Kelty Redwing.
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>>681058
this + craigslist/thrift/consignment store

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What kind of music does /out/ listen to while outdoors or going outdoors?
I personally bounce between CCR and Kid Rock.
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>>678071
i rock the tin whistle

https://clyp.it/fkj041mz
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>>678071
>CCR and Kid Rock.
Are you a redneck by chance?
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>>678075
Ish. Family is from Texas, and Iowa. First generation CA and I hate it.

>>678074
Not bad anon, keep practicing.

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What are your Experiences/Thoughts regarding MILSURP? I understand a lot of people like it because you can get high quality items at a low price while some see it as fashion while some others see it as an abomination. Did you/would you buy MILSURP ( military surplus ) items if/when the situation is/was right? Did you buy it local or online/if you bought it online where from? How did/is the purchase work(ing) out for you? I'm asking simply because in need of new long-lasting /out/doors gear and am thinking of buying MILSURP.

Image unrelated.
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>>687308
All I know is I went to Bass Pro Shops last night and I totally didn't fit in.

I need a pickup truck and some camo t-shirts. I look really out of place in nice sweaters and khakis.
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Surplus can be great of you know what your looking for. I'm a former mil fag so I know what my preferences are pretty well. Generally speaking they are great in that they are cheap and usually pretty durable. But lack features and comfort of commercial alternatives. I honest would avoid it unless you've had previous experience with it or are willing to spend a but to experiment. For example I really like the Alice pack but I also know many ppl who hate it. This stuff varies and is very individual based in your habits and preferences.
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Depends on what surplus you need.

Clothing/boots

Hell yeah, there's ton of good stuff for all weather conditions. Just don't wear it around or you'll look autistic

Packs/rucksacks

There are a large variety but there are a select few that are best. Personally, I'm a fan of Alice but it is all subjective preferences

Sleeping gear

There are a ton of options for tents shelter halves/sleeping bags/biveys/cots/you name it
I personally have a czech sleeping bag which is comfy as hell and 2 Austrian shelter halves and a polish shelter half. The Austrian ones are nicely water repellant, but not much good for cold without insulation. The polish one didn't come with poles/rope to hold it up, but it makes a nice rain cover and ground cloth

There's also a fair amount of mess kits availavle. You just need to dive in. I suggest going to an actual milsurp store so you can see what you like in person

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Old thread: >>672922

Companion Planting - Raised Beds - Vertical Gardening - Square Foot Gardening - Polyculture -

Composting - Mulching - Vermiculture - Espalier - Fungiculture - Aquaponics - Greenhouses - Cold

Frames - Hot Boxes - Polytunnels - Forest Gardening - Aquaculture

Resources:

Murray Hallam’s Aquaponics: (sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYR9s6chrI0 )

-Aquaponics Secrets DVD
-Aquaponics Made Easy DVD
-DIY Aquaponics DVD (Aquaponics The First 12 Months And Aquaponics DIY DVD)

Backyard Aquaponics
https://kat.cr/backyard-aquaponics-t4385398.html

400+ PDF BOOKS ON GARDENING
https://kat.cr/400-pdf-books-on-gardening-t3324399.html

Youtube channel Growingyourgreens, tons of videos on almost every single gardening subject,
https://www.youtube.com/user/growingyourgreens

Ollas clay pot watering system,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkNxACJ9vPI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKq5geEM-A

USA Time of Year Planting Guide,
http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/what-to-plant-now-zl0z0903zalt.aspx

Food preservation,
http://nchfp.uga.edu/
https://kat.cr/complete-book-of-home-preserving-pdf-gooner-t10069401.html
https://kat.cr/canning-and-preserving-all-in-one-for-dummies-2011-mantesh-t5998098.html
http://www.allamerican-chefsdesign.com/admin/FileUploads/Product_49.pdf

Mushrooms, (culinary and psychoactive):
https://kat.cr/usearch/Stamets/

Mother Earth News' Vegetable Garden Planner program, (full version requires yearly subscription $fee)
http://www.motherearthnews.com/garden-planner/vegetable-garden-planner.aspx

Tons of Gardening/Farming PDFs
http://www.fastonline.org/?page_id=35
Aquaponics
http://www.fastonline.org/?page_id=32
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US Farm Income and Taxes,
http://www.hobbyfarms.com/farm-marketing-and-management/farm-income-taxes-14991.aspx

US Grants and Loans for Small Farms,
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?navid=GRANTS_LOANS
http://afsic.nal.usda.gov/farms-and-community/grants-and-loans-farmers
http://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/pubs/funding.shtml

Managing Risks on Your Small Farm,
http://agr.wa.gov/Marketing/SmallFarm/managerisk.aspx

Chicken info and forum,
http://www.backyardchickens.com

Rabbit guide
http://www.agriculture.gov.tt/publications/manuals/rabbit-production-a-producer-s-manual.html

A public access seedbank for many types of rare or endangered plants; both edible and ornamental,
http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/index.htm

Organic and heirloom selections:
http://sustainableseedco.com/
http://www.seedsofchange.com/
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/

Potato, Sweet Potato, and Tubers seed bank (free, but requies filling out forms and waiting in line):
http://www.cipotato.org/

Awesome interactive plant/gardening maps for USA, Canada, France, UK, BC, (frost dates, temp zones,

etc):
http://www.plantmaps.com/index.php

Sprout seeds and info:
sproutpeople.org

Insect Habitats for attracting polinating bees, predatory/parasitic wasps, hibernating ladybugs,

butterflies, etc.
http://www.inspirationgreen.com/insect-habitats.html

Toad and Hedgehog Habitats,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JetkWtw7Jc
http://familycrafts.about.com/od/frogcrafts/a/How_To_Make_A_Toad_Village.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/breathingplaces/hedgehog_home/
http://www.britishhedgehogs.org.uk/leaflets/L5-Hedgehog-Homes.pdf

Chili Peppers
http://www.fatalii.net/

More on Aquaponics & Aquaculture,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=26xpMCXP9bw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=_WgfaJjvfxA
http://www.appropedia.org/Aquaponics

Sourcing plants from the grocery,
http://www.diyncrafts.com/4732/repurpose/25-foods-can-re-grow-kitchen-scraps
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Thanks to OP, I found out about this clay pot watering system, watched some videos and decided to try it myself on my garden. Being in a 10b climatic zone (Italy), the summers can get pretty hot and dry, so what I'm trying to build now is a little veggie garden using this irrigation system. I could not find these specific "Ollas" clay pots they were using, but watching a video, I found out you could use a simple, conic shaped terracotta pot, which is extremely easy and cheap to get here. So I drew this little concept on inkscape, basically to explain my desired setup. The big problem I encountered was how to waterproof the bottom of these upside down terracotta pots. I thought about using an old PVC cloth I used for my garden pond. But even then, I need something to attach it to the pots without leaving any holes. I have no idea which glue could be used, It would have to be something very resistant to water and it should not leak toxic shit into the surrounding terrain. Any ideas on what glue could be used or other methods to seal these pots?
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>>683893
How is that setup any better than subsurface drip irigation anon?

Not trolling, I'm genuinely curious.

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