Innawoods thread
Scenario:
State-sponsored Hackers target your country's internet access, taking down all related infrastructure along with it
-Financial system goes down (stock markets, ATMs, check cashing)
-Utilities become unreliable after 72 hours, increasing with time
-no telecommunications
The first 48 hours have passed quietly, but now people are starting to panic, due to lack of food, communication from the government and some fear of nuclear exchange
Have you made preperations and plan?
My plan is to hold out as long as I can in my apartment, using extra fuel for the campingstove and foods I have stored there.
If it's getting too sketchy in the city, I'll probably head to the bug-out location in the countryside by bike. It's about 11 miles which is no big deal for me. I can cover that distance in about 1,5-2 hours.
>>724462
Every year storms kick the collective asses of the area I live in. 3 weeks per year without electric is common. Snow loads of 4+ feet happen every few years and during those times nothing moves for about 3-4 weeks while you are completely snowed in.
That's no land line phone, no cell phone reception, no electric, no water, no gasoline availability, no transportation (unless you have a snow mobile, horse, or farm tractor), no natural gas when it freezes off, and almost no social interaction with anyone outside your house with people you didn't get snowed in with. In summer, wind storms down trees across power lines. Same conditions, only instead of snow and -10F conditions, it is 102F, no AC during Dog Days for weeks on end, but at least you see more people who walk/bike/horse ride everywhere. When this happens, everyone has everyone elses' back. People make it a point to contact their neighbors to see if they are alright or need anything. Only reliable communications is HAM radio and CB radio.
I have enough food, on rotation at all times, to live about 3 months comfortable. I also have several gardens, orchard, farm pond, chickens, river, forest, fishing equipment, hunting equipment, trapping equipment. I have several forms of power generation and storage, though I don't need it. I do have ultra-low power requirement netbook and external HDD with plenty of entertainment and diy info on everything. I have brewing equipment for 200+ gallons of wine or beer and can distill if I feel the need. I can make a bio-methane digester easily and have done so in the past should I need methane and fertilizer. I have everything I need to fix electronics, PCBs, or make them. I have tools out the wazoo, electric and non-electric manual versions.
I also have a shit ton of knowledge and experience on just about everything and can easily trade and work to help people or whatever. I know every plant and animal in the entire area, what is edible and how to use it.
>>724515
Sounds like an interesting place to live. Where is it?
I'd bug out of my apartment and go home to my family. They would appreciate my help and they also have a lot of stuff we can use to survive. (weapons for self defense and hunting, fishing gear and boat + small garden for extra food, vehicles and a cabin for bug out).
In my apartment I have outdoor gear and backpacking food so I can bug out of the city on my own relatively comfortably.
Hey /out/ so I checked the catalog and noticed there are over 10 threads right now somehow related to backpacking. In an effort to condense all these threads down I am going to start making one of these every week or so to help get people to post their questions in one place.
I realize I am currently adding to the problem in the short term. My hope however is that over time people will recognize the thread and come to it to post questions rather than make a new thread.
So without further ado let's hear it, planning a thru hike? Need help with picking a new pack? Want to discuss gear? This is the place.
I'll start off with a gear load out I posted a few weeks ago in a thread. Took one posters advice and reduced the size of the duck tape by wrapping it around cardboard. Further suggestions welcome and appreciated!
>>720904
Aaaand my pack, the Gregory baltoro 65
Tent: big Agnes mtnglo 2
Sleeping bag: Kelty cosmic down 21 degree bag
Sleeping pad: thermarest trail pro
>>720904
I saw somewhere on the web a mention of a survey that was done where they asked AT thru hikers about their gear and then analysed the results. Anybody know where to find it?
>Yes I've already tried googling it
>>720930
Haven't heard of that but try the website outdoorgearlab.com
They do super in depth product reviews and such so there may be something on there
Hello /out/
I want to buy a hatchet.
Light splitting work, Carving, 380-400 mm handle, hard cutting edge, long story short a hatchet which is a better cutter than splitter.
At first I wanted to get a GB wildlife hatchet.
I have read a lot about the products and watched some videos. Everyone is overly satisfied with them to the point where I start to call meme shit.
2 years ago the wildlife hatchet cost 65€ here now it's 85€
That can't be because of inflation or missing consumer interest.
GB sell most of their products to other countries, which reinforces the meme claim because of Ray Mears and the bushcraft circle jerk. GB seems to be of high quality, but I wonder if they jacked up the price because of their good reputation and popularity.
The most common brand used in Scandinavia is Hultafors. Their (pic related) product is one of their modern models and I wonder if it is just as good useful as a GB hatchet.
The modern approach is also something that came to my mind. The Fiskars X models are really popular here in Germany but the internet says that they are shit for fine work and continuous use.
My last option is hand forged in Germany by a master and the price is reasonable.
http://www.damastklinge.de/damastklinge_texte/de_beile_bilder05.htm
Which hatchet do you use? Any underground brands and manifacturers you can recommend?
>>715266
As long as you don't pick the Fiskar's you won't lose. I've not heard of Hultafors but I've seen anons give praise to Gransfors.
>>715266
I'd recommend the cold steel rifleman's hawk. its a tomahawk, so you can remove the head for further splitting work. it is also much lighter than any of these axes. for the price it really cant be beaten. there are many varieties of this same hawk from cold steel, if you would like different handle lengths or other features.
>>715266
>ith them to the point where I start to call meme shit.
>2 years ago the wildlife hatchet cost 65€ here now it's 85€
>That can't be because of inflation or missing consumer interest.
For every bushcrafter everstyle there is wooden handle.... for really good axe that takes 2-3 times less effort to chop down a tree take the fiskars x7 for lightweight or x10 for serious need of firewood... now they have "new" model called x7xs same axe with rubberish lines on handle and higher price.... im manager in garden tech and tools shop where we sell them... ive compared a lot of european axes like husqvarna jonsered bahco fiskars and lots of cheap ones... fiskars have the best chopping blade but the plastic handle seems unatractive to most "natural" bushcraft style points earning mora-laplander users. btw that plastic handle will last you lifetime if you dont just fuck it up yourself
you can get it for even less than 30euro here in Latvia
What do you think of Walden and Thoreau?
Also, /out/ related books thread.
>>724771
Thoreau's writing was boring and I couldn't finish the book. I liked the concept but he is no Dick Proenneke by any means. The best /out/ book is the one you write.
>>724806
>The best /out/ book is the one you write.
I agreed with you until this faggatory statement
qt trainhopper edition
muh grls
What was wrong with the old thread?
>OKAY GUYS
Listen, I've been a NEET now for a little more than 2 years now. I never leave the house and I don't have any friends.
Last summer I didn't do shit and my parents almost threw me out of the house.
>"GO TO THE CLUB OR BEACH AND SOCIALIZE BRUH".
No, I'm socially autstic, I need something that I can do on my own. What's some fun activities that I don't need to go some shitty course to learn, an activty that can actually keep me out of the house for the entire summer so that my parents doesn't throw me out.
Go fishing, bruh
>>731145
Fishin
>>731145
what kind of area do you live?
i say mountainbiking and camping, repeat. i live in a rural town and have had my share of need to gtfo of the house. so i bike through rural roads and trails every day. sometimes i camp places, sometimes i don't. either way, gets you out, keeps you fit, which all leads to feeling pretty good †bh
Especially in the US. I live in the northeast, so there's a lot of bears and pumas around here.
>>722502
can of bearmace and situational awareness.
>>722502
For bears? .357 mag or 10mm auto. A big can of bear mace is a good thing to have and it normally does the trick.
For pumas? Nigga you'll be dead before you even know what hit you.
I want to start in the world of archery with a cheap bow.
Do you know any good model for beginners or a trusted website with world wide shipping.
>>718070
Hey, man.
Figure out what you want to do with the bow, like hunting, bow fishing or some variety of target shooting and decide if you want to shoot compound or some sort of traditional bow.
Ideally, don't buy off a website. Go to an archery pro shop - not a gun shop, outdoors shop, etc that also sells bows. Get your draw length measured, get some sense of the draw weight you're comfortable with and pick out a bow in your price range that ticks your boxes - the staff will help.
Buy decent carbon arrows that are correctly spined for you and your bow, which the staff can also help with.
As far as models go, if you want a recurve, the go-to beginner bow is the Samick Sage. If you want a compound, cheapest decent bow is maybe a PSE Stinger, but the bows get better the more you're willing to spend.
>>718113
awesome answer!, thanks, I guess the Samick Sage is more than enough for me now.
Progress report:
On a low brace I'm at 40# at 20"
Any input?
#26- "Friday Night? Alright!" Edition
Previous Thread
>>731812
Hopin mah nigga Bo wakes up early tomorrow so we can hit some lakes and I can get him on a better tackle box or bag than the big Adidas box he is currently using. Gotta try out some lakes I have been scoping out while working. I need to catch a peacock bass eventually.
Talk about fishin'
trout season open here tomorrow, not goin to rush out in the morning but il probably fish for pickerel tomorrow day, a nd tomorrow night try for some eels/catfish
>>734359
That sounds awful trying to fish a popular stocked lake on the first day of the season.
>>734361
the river will be packed tomorrow, and if i do decide to o to the river il wear my hat from when i worked for the state, and spook some folks trying to keep more then their limit
Detroit is so empty, why not just camp there?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dte5Z9j9oWA
lawlz
>>730529
I live in Detroit.
There are literal blocks without houses or only have abandoned houses; all that exist are overgrown fields, bushes, and trees in some areas within the city.
>>730590
>fields, bushes, and trees in some areas within the city.
They're called city parks where I'm from
Back when I was 16, I bought myself a big, bad bowie. I used it on a couple of hikes, but as I grew up I traded badassery for smaller and more usable knives and hachets.
Now, is there actually a legit reason for carrying such a huge knife when /out/? Or should I just dedicate it fully to being a showpiece?
If it works, it works. It might not be as good as a dedicated bushcraft knife, but if you like it and you can use it well, I cant see any reason not to use it.
Ive carried a Puma bowie a few times without any major complaints regarding efectivness.
>>724254
I think of big knives the same way that I think of wool blankets and 4 man dome tents: If you're car camping it'll make things easier and more comfortable, if you're hiking, then it's a frivolously heavy item that's probably best left at home. Ultimately though, it's a personal choice. I know big guys that can carry an extra pound or two without much influence on their endurance; I'm a smaller guy, my base weight is eight pounds and I don't even carry more water than I need (with a small buffer) to get to a fill point.
>>724267
8 pounds, that's 3.6 kilos. What's the combined weight of your backpack, tent / hammock and sleeping bag? That sounds like a suspiciously light weight for anything more than overnight.
What sort of music does /out/ listen to when innawoods? I'm trying to put together an innawoods playlist
bird songs, running water, rustling leaves, crunching twigs
radiohead
Kid A is pretty nice while hiking. Had lots of beautiful treks up my local mountain to that album.
gojira if youre a metal fan
the lead singer is french and they have relations with green peace
still a sick band regardless
I've done the Maine conservation corps before. Thought it was pretty awesome. What are your opinions?
>>715015
whhhaaaaat
id do this, is it volunteer work?
how to into this pls
>>715017
Well for the Maine Conservation corps you pretty much just have to apply, they're desperate for people. You get paid a living wage + some benefits. mediocre health insurance, camp any state park for free, 100$ refund on boots etc.
>>715021
i wonder if there is shit like this in washington state.
Old thread: >>719608
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Resources:
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Backyard Aquaponics
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Youtube channel Growingyourgreens, tons of videos on almost every single gardening subject,
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Ollas clay pot watering system,
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKq5geEM-A
USA Time of Year Planting Guide,
http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/what-to-plant-now-zl0z0903zalt.aspx
Food preservation,
http://nchfp.uga.edu/
https://kat.cr/complete-book-of-home-preserving-pdf-gooner-t10069401.html
https://kat.cr/canning-and-preserving-all-in-one-for-dummies-2011-mantesh-t5998098.html
http://www.allamerican-chefsdesign.com/admin/FileUploads/Product_49.pdf
Mushrooms, (culinary and psychoactive):
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Mother Earth News' Vegetable Garden Planner program, (full version requires yearly subscription $fee)
http://www.motherearthnews.com/garden-planner/vegetable-garden-planner.aspx
Tons of Gardening/Farming PDFs
http://www.fastonline.org/?page_id=35
Aquaponics
http://www.fastonline.org/?page_id=32
US Farm Income and Taxes,
http://www.hobbyfarms.com/farm-marketing-and-management/farm-income-taxes-14991.aspx
US Grants and Loans for Small Farms,
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?navid=GRANTS_LOANS
http://afsic.nal.usda.gov/farms-and-community/grants-and-loans-farmers
http://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/pubs/funding.shtml
Managing Risks on Your Small Farm,
http://agr.wa.gov/Marketing/SmallFarm/managerisk.aspx
Chicken info and forum,
http://www.backyardchickens.com
Rabbit guide
http://www.agriculture.gov.tt/publications/manuals/rabbit-production-a-producer-s-manual.html
A public access seedbank for many types of rare or endangered plants; both edible and ornamental,
http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/index.htm
Organic and heirloom selections:
http://sustainableseedco.com/
http://www.seedsofchange.com/
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/
Potato, Sweet Potato, and Tubers seed bank (free, but requies filling out forms and waiting in line):
http://www.cipotato.org/
Awesome interactive plant/gardening maps for USA, Canada, France, UK, BC, (frost dates, temp zones, etc):
http://www.plantmaps.com/index.php
Sprout seeds and info:
sproutpeople.org
Insect Habitats for attracting polinating bees, predatory/parasitic wasps, hibernating ladybugs, butterflies, etc.
http://www.inspirationgreen.com/insect-habitats.html
Toad and Hedgehog Habitats,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JetkWtw7Jc
http://familycrafts.about.com/od/frogcrafts/a/How_To_Make_A_Toad_Village.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/breathingplaces/hedgehog_home/
http://www.britishhedgehogs.org.uk/leaflets/L5-Hedgehog-Homes.pdf
Chili Peppers
http://www.fatalii.net/
More on Aquaponics & Aquaculture,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=26xpMCXP9bw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=_WgfaJjvfxA
http://www.appropedia.org/Aquaponics
Sourcing plants from the grocery,
http://www.diyncrafts.com/4732/repurpose/25-foods-can-re-grow-kitchen-scraps
Can anyone recommend a good seed catalog?
well of course it's tidy you're obviously at a campground/national park...right next to a roadway. Not exactly impressive man
>Show us your tidy camps
flashback to every single campsite ive come across littered beyond belief
pic related
>>727596
Nice and cozy