Howdy friends, so a couple weeks ago I went for a day hike at Joshua tree state park, I carried about 8 liters of water in with me but had to leave a lot sooner than expected because I'd gone through all my water in about 4 hours. And I ended up leaving feeling very dehydrated even though I went through that much water, am I drinking my water too fast? I drink when I'm thirsty and honestly it seems I can't drink enough water to sate me for more than 30 minutes. How do you guys go through your water supplies? And any tips on extending my water usage?
I guzzle as much water as I can in my car in the parking lot or trail head, I bring a separate water bottle for that. But do you run or walk to fast and start sweating to much? I usually only bring my 3 liter water bag/backpack and carry a sawyer filter just in case. But then I don't live in a desert, I do it to save weight.
>>810160
I generally just walk but after some reading I think it's mostly due to not hydrating the night before, anyways general hydration thread?
JT!!, a GIANT rainwater catchment., look atit! ROCK!,, mostly.,
,,ok, heres your help., Willow Hole floows to Rattlesnake canyon., and beyond!, along the way it pops outa thesand onto stone>DRINK! drink deep ,and coooooool.
,,,oo Doge help me for my sin., DONT TAKE THE OLD TOOLS!,use it,, but LEAVE it.
,also, the BEST COLD water is deeper in the caves.
I saw this bug and several like it, what is it?
It's kind of gross.
Its a fucking moth, anon
>>809139
What the fuck is this thread? Can we make this a fears thread?
>>809169
Op here, not really a moth.
Moths are feathery and this creepybug was hard.
Another pic.
What are some photos you've taken while out?
One of my favorite places to snoop around at night. Bring some beuhs, some food & water, and make a night of it.
>>808667
Lots
>>808679
Is there such a thing as a paper-based food vacuum bag? Looking for a better alternative to plastic for backpacking. Namely something I can burn after use and not feel so bad about it.
>>808572
Plastic, metal, and glass about pretty much your only options for vacuum packed stuff. I use glass mason jars for vacuum packing dehydrated stuff I make.
>>808572
I can't believe I just read that.
>>808598
>not caring about saving weight
>not knowing about plant and potato-based coatings
Scary camping stories post 'em
Please no greentext, makes telling them hella awkward
what is the point of this?
>>807455
Boiling hotdogs in a condom? For the steam I guess.
The question he asked? Stories to tell around the camp fire.
I might try boiling them that way and have a friend test one.
>>807471
Make sure you use a flavored condom. Plain condoms taste gross
What are /out/s opinions on swiss army knives?
>>806820
It's no Mora
But I guess if you're a Britcuck and can't own a locking blade or anything over 7cm, they get the job done.
>>806820
I like em OK. Better knife ergonomics, can opener and scissors than Leatherman style multitools. I just wish I could find my MEC 20th anniversary special edition green Climber which I got on clearance for their 21st and took around the world with me (usually in my carry-on, such was life in the 1990s).
>>806835
The ones with a saw are better than morals.
Thoughts on buying a private island?
meh
If I had the money I would. Sounds like absolute paradise.
I would, in Alaska.
Nothing keeps people away like -40 F winters.
Plus Alaska is pretty much the /out/ promised land.
>not living in a van in Yosemite like Alex Honnold
>why even live?
Does /out/ rock climb? Thinking of dropping the rope and going free solo only.
>>793908
Killing yourself does seem like a reasonable option.
>Hey out! I watch netflix and it just showed me how much of a pussy i am!!!
>>793916
I take it you don't climb?
Aided versus free, rope or not, is not about how big of a pussy anyone is. They are different experiences.
Hey guys, how does this make you feel?
>>787630
I enjoy it, I love the confluence of order and nature.
>>787630
>bricks, road and manicured landscaping in background
considering it's in someone's front yard i really don't give a shit.
we out here senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njbYDlIguDw
Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
Didn't see one open so I figured a thread for small questions of any particular topic might be a good idea
Best lightweight and compact way to boil water? Titanium cup, surplus canteen, enamel mug, kleen kanteen/nalgene?
I know there was some controversy on /out/ about jetboil, whats the deal with that?
Best lightweight camp setup for staying in place for 30 days?
>>771001
Need some advice re sleeping mats.
Are 3/4 sized mats still comfortable, or will my legs get cold?
Setup will be: Hoochie (tarp) over the top, bivy bag (http://www.mountainwarehouse.com/au/bivvy-bag-p13634.aspx?cl=Khaki) to add some warmth to my 15 celcius sleeping bag and a sleeping mat.
There is one for sale for $60 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Wanderer-Self-Inflating-Full-Length-Hiking-Mat-Boating-Camping-Fishing-/252388183838?hash=item3ac3820f1e:g:iGwAAOSw8vZXNVaj)
But if it doesn't make that much difference I could potentially get away a bit cheaper (and lighter) with this one: http://www.platatac.com/platatac-gonk-mat.html
The goal is that I want a system that is light and modular, so I can use it in summer but that it will also take me down to 0 degrees or thereabouts.
Cheers.
I went with my hiking with my friend a few days ago and he's extremely sick now.
We drank out of a lake with a lifestraw and I think maybe he contaminated like a really deadly bacteria with 99% fatality because the symptoms are all there, but I'm scared to tell him, but I'm also scared not to tell him.
Jesus fucking Christ, nature is no fucking joke guys don't ever leave your houses guys. It's not even fucking worth it. Why the fuck is this happening??? FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.
>>811633
>what are iodine tablets
>>811633
he's not gonna die OP, he's just gonna schidt what brains he has out for a day or two and be on the mend by monday
>>811633
>the symptoms are all there
>flu-like symptoms
>flu-like symptoms
>flu-like symptoms
10 day rule.
If you are not bleeding, swelling up like a blueberry, or turning weird colors, wait 10 days to see if you get better. Most ailments pass and the body heals in the that amount of time. If you don't get better after 10 days, see a doctor.
He's probably just sick from the first contact of herpes you gave him during your homohike.
Hey /out/. I'm looking to start solo camping here in the UK, probably in Snowdonia (pic related) first and, if that goes well, the Lake District and Scottish Highlands later. How advisable is this for someone with crap equipment and limited camping experience?
More info in next post.
I went camping for the first time last year in the Canadian Rockies, and loved it. We went for a week, and the campsite had all the basic amenities (toilets, showers, etc). Furthermore, one of my group was a real /out/doorsman and basically just looked after the rest of us - he helped us pitch the tents, he started the fires, he did the cooking, he told us where and how to store our stuff, and so on. For the second half of the week we left, and I took over (making far more mistakes than him, but still getting a bit of experience).
Anyways, I loved that, and wanted to do it again in the UK. Trouble is, literally none of my friends are interested in it. We don't really have much of a camping culture here at all, and my friends just want to go on lad's holidays to Ayia Napa. So I thought what the hell, I'll try solo camping, could be fun. I plan to borrow equipment (most likely cheap/old) from relatives, drive out to one of these national parks, and spend 2-3 nights wild camping. I figure it could be fun to learn by experience. During the day, I'd spend my time hiking, and would certainly like to reach the peaks of Snowdon/Ben Nevis/Scafell Pike (using my running trainers probably, rather than hiking boots). However, when browsing WikiTravel I noticed a few warnings like 'Underestimating the terrain can be fatal. Make sure you know how to use a compass and read a map, and invest in good-quality hiking equipment'. Is that really necessary for somewhere that's relatively tame, like the UK? Would I be ok so long as I stayed within, say, 5 miles of my car?
All comments/advice greatly appreciated.
>five miles in
>Shit gear
I don't think you can carry your gear five miles.
> Compass and map
Completely unnecessary
>Good quality hiking equipment
Your shoes are probably fine, appropriate clothes are totally necessary, you ain't backpacking 5 miles with heavy tent, sleeping bag etc.
>>811134
Cont,.
Lay out all your gear and food and water and see how much it weighs (too much) and if it fits in your backpack (it doesn't)
If you can carry it, great. If not choose wisely or get lighter gear. If it's too heavy and you go for it anyway (you should) you can just burn all your shit gear on your last day and have a nice stroll back to your car.
Overall it seems like you are on the right track and solo isn't dangerous unless you are a retard. Have fun m8 lad fag smoker rent boy from Manchester innit
Ask another /out/er whos not afraid of Momma bears anything
Bear, please
>>811101
What is your favorite ice cream flavor?
>>811101
It's It's a black bear. Why would you be afraid of them. I bet you could get it run away with a loud dart noise.
I'm hoping this is related enough to /out/ that someone can help me out because I don't have any fisherman connections.
Anyone have any sort of idea as to who i could find to ask to buy fishing bycatch? I see all this stuff showing net fishing catches a shitload of non target species that are almost worthless and want to pretty much just occasionally buy a trashbag of assorted small marine life.
Where the hell do I even begin looking?
>>811025
Do the chickens have large talons?
Why do you want it? How much would you buy?
>>811040
I raise a bunch of large fish/reptiles who eat a lot. Figure it'd be a cheap way to have a super varied good diet. Not enormous quantities or anything, would depend how much they wanted to get rid of. Maybe 20 pounds at a time? I could do more or less though depending.
/4outdoors/ newb here. Found this little branch on a plant while out for a walk today, the red leaf intrigued me. Clearly the plant itself, nor the leaf was not dead, so now it's in its own pot.
I know next to nothing about IDing plant species, but I'm guessing this is very common (I live ine northern New England). Can anyone tell what species it is, and what caused that particular leaf to turn red?
>>810938
OK, OP here, the redness, if the leaf is still alive, is probably because of lack of chlorophyll. That much I remember.
>>810938
OP, crunch a leaf and smell it. It looks like wintergreen to me. If it is, then you can google that shit right up as to why it's red now. (i;m guessing it's too dry, cuz it sure is dry here...)
The red leaf is the queen leaf and all the rest are the worker leaves.