How do you stay dry in a shelter half tent with no floor? Doesn't the water just flow right under it and onto you?
>>951411
In the army we dig a drainage trench around it if we're expecting rain.
>>951415
How close & how deep?
>>951415
>>951418
Did that as a scout too when I was younger. About a (small) showel-head deep and wide. Depending on the amount of rain we could also dig a channel for the water to get away from the tent from the lowest point in the "trench".
If rain is not bad then we would sometimes only dig a trench on the most exposed side of the tent - usually being the side where we expected water to flow towards our tent or the side facing the wind.
hi, /fit/ browser coming to /out/ for a question about basic camping item lists.
from a thread or two ive read here it seems that if you want more of a challenge camping/hiking wise you shorten the item list to a couple universally useful tools like a portable hoe or a knife.
i'd like to start organizing camping trips with my dad, whos pretty out of shape. i lift and run occasionally and have been car camping with my dad a couple times.
what kind of tools are most necessary and what activities fill up your time when you camp?
i'd like to bring less and less every trip and fill the day with creating the necessary tools and shelter that we didn't bring along
This doesn't taste like apples btw
Go away hedonist
>>947867
>there's something wrong with hedonism
Unless you're directly affecting someone negatively, hedonism is cool.
I've become pretty frustrated with the available camping areas near me in the Brazos Valley here in Texas. I've camped at Lake Somerville and its overcrowded even in the offseason. I spent my last weekend hearing people cackling 50yrds well into the early morning, and people walking by my site on their way to the shitter.
The campsite also had a pylon with water and power which really detracted from the getaway i was going for. I want to experience out, and the snippets of that lifestyle have been really enjoyable to me. Basically I'm wondering if anyone on /out/ can recommend a truly wild, isolated, and authentic hiking/camping/bushcraft spot they have been to before. I'm at the point where i may just cold call people at large ranches and ask them if i can hang my hammock and dick around on their land overnight here and there.
Texan here. How far are you willing to travel?
>>947383
>authentic hiking/camping/bushcraft spot
>>947383
For state park type sites, have you tried steven f austin? It is about qn hour west of htown.
And then there are the nationa forests, but that is a drive from the brazos if you live on half of ot. I get colege station radio when i camp in sam houston.
Also., the aggies suck. GO COOGS!
>A Canadian man who has been missing for five years has been found more than 6,500 miles away in the Amazon jungle.
>Anton Pilipa trekked across two continents, walking mostly barefoot with just the clothes on his back, after he disappeared from his Vancouver home in 2012.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4205080/Canadian-man-disappeared-2012-Brazil.html
Is he /out/?
>>947261
He's mentally ill.
>>947271
Not an argument.
>>947289
Was it supposed to be?
Fix this
>>945100
WA fag who lived in Texas for a few yrs. I would of rated Texas higher. Has some amazing places, it's nice to actually go swimming in rivers and crap.
>>945100
Note which shit-for-/out/ state you are from and maybe include a picture of your postage stamp sized wilderness-with-a-parking lot.
This map has been a tremendous butthurt generator.
apparently can't swim. every single SE state with a coastline should be way higher. out needs to embrace water more, surf fishing, kayak fishing, free diving, scuba, surfing, swimming, skim boards....
/prepper thread/? Prepper thread!
>>944244
Nice dubs.
A true lrepper threqd is probably best in k. Qnd your pic only amplifies jit. You ever killeda man? They sayit is hqrd.
[spoiler]it isnt
Do any camping stores have a decent supply of canoe and kayak parts? I've tried Academy and it's garbage.
I've got an old Penobscot 16 I'm repairing and I really hate ordering things online, yet I need a thwart and screws. It's a 21-year old canoe that needs a little work but it's awesome.
>>954123
The Dick's near me have a decent selection of Kayaks and a handful of accessories. At the beginning of last year, most of the stores in the area actually cut down on their fishing stuff to expand on the kayak section.
But most of these stores will tell you what is in stock if you go online. You have a Bass Pro nearby? They actually sell boats so they might have a better selection and their website will tell you what they actually carry at the store. Otherwise see if you have a West Marine store nearby. They have those stores everywhere even if you aren't close to large bodies of water.
>>954126
Unfortunately my state has 3 Bass Pro shops in the whole state and none near me. I may end up buying the screws from the Old Town website, which I really don't want to do since they're 6 bucks apiece.
We've got a Dick's and Cabelas nearby but the Dick's doesn't have boating stuff at all.
>>954132
Did you look into West Marine?
Hardware stores always carry a huge selection of random screws and fasteners too. Sometimes it's worth going ther with the old one and trying to find something that matches. And if Ace Hardware or Lowe's doesn't have it, most areas will have some sort of specialty electrician or contractor store that carries all of that hard to find fastener stuff.
Otherwise the internet is great. But I'm like you, I like to check the shit out IRL and buy it today if I can find it locally. I also hate paying $5-$10 shipping on $15 worth of little stuff.
Talk me out of it.
>>947290
don't fall for the memes, faggot
>>947291
But choppy choppy
>>947292
What is food in European Mountain Huts like?
How much do they cost to sleep there?
>>949555
About tree fiddy
>>949555
They are free, everything in Europe is free. That's why so many people are moving there, there are no rules or laws and everything is free. It's a paradise! Praise Allah!
Whats the bset way to preserve a small bird's skull?
>>953424
Shove it up your butt
>>953424
Tried salting and smoking it?
>>953428
didn't try anything yet, I'm yet to pick one up.
that should clean it too?
I'm looking to get a new tent for when I go hunting/backpacking and I need of some suggestions. I found the Eureka Alpenlite 2XT for $350 locally and it seems to have gotten good reviews. My main conerens with it are obviously it's a littleness pricy and it weights in at 7lbs.
>>953189
Why do you need a tent? You could save yourself the $350, the 7lbs, and the pitching that hideous monstrosity if you just laid down a groundcloth and maybe pitch a small tarp if you're expecting rain.
4 season tents are heavy because of the extra pole weight. Get a 3 season tent.
>>953195
I hace slept in the mud of a hilltopbase in khandahar province. I seriouslydoubt your faggot ass evercamped 4miles from your subaru.
Land purchasing thread. Is it worth it?
I'm a young /out/ist and have been putting money into savings for a few years now.
If I buy land I know I can camp out, but could I hike on it?
How much should I get? 1-5 acres seems too small. I wouldn't be able to hike very far.
100 acre plots are out of my price range. I only have close to 25k saved up.
Are auctions or fixed price sales better?
If I just get a couple acres out in the middle of the woods, can I hike on my neighbors land?
Should I just not buy land and use public land?
Are there better websites than what google gives me? (landandfarm, landwatch)
What is a good price/acre ratio. Pic related is about $250/acre
Is this a bait thread, or is op just stupid?
Fuck that buy a hovercraft
>>952185
Yes, it is very worth it. If you can pay for it in cash all the better. No one will be able to take it away from you for a long time if you lose your job for whatever reason. Paying taxes is far far less than paying rent.
You probably need 10-30 acres. That will help you have some buffer room from the boarder. As far as neighbors go, you have to ask for permission. Be a good neighbor. If you buy something, pay extra money to have it surveyed even if it was just surveyed not long ago. Never allow anyone to make a fence or keep a fence across ANY part of your land. Some states give that chunk of fence properly to the other person if you don't get rid of it in x amount of time (years normally).
Well urbex friends, that is it.
Nara Dreamland, one of the best urbex sites, is officially 100% gone.
>>953745
A place that you had no right to trespass upon is gone and you're whining? Found the entitled white millennial.
>>953745
Honestly OP I find it sadder when small local places get demolished or developed, rather than well-known gigantic commercial properties. Like when the old farm over the hill from me got flattened and had a couple mcmansia built on it, or when the 18th century carding mill was gutted, turned into loft apartments, and the surrounding woods and river encircled with a giant lit parking lot and fences.
>>953763
Gloomy Gus at it again.
>>953763
Found the tumblr/reddit faggot. Bet all the kids from school loved playing with you.
looking to make the switch into tarp shelters.
Does rain get carried in by wind?
Can a tarp mat keep the ground dry?
The difference between pyramid and square tarps?
>>949783
Tarps suck if you aren't camping in forested areas.
>>949783
How do people camp like this? Do they live in magical areas free from insects?
hypothetically speaking, you are wanted by local mafia group and have to skip town
hypothetically speaking, you have no skills, are a NEET, and decide to go /innawoods/ for the rest of your life because you're already depressed anyway
so you have 500 dollars to spend on supplies, and just the clothes on your back, and absolutely no knowledge of survival, camping, hiking, or fishing. You have 1 week to prepare
What do you buy? what books do you bring with you?
please anons, I really really want your input.
If this was a real situation and you only had $500 I would make sure my book/field guide budget was quite robust. Yes you'll need suplpies to keep you alive while you learn and figure it all out, but knowledge is the only thing that'll keep you alive forever.
You'll need some books on shelters and bushcraft, but also all about hunting and fishing techniques (make sure iyou get a field guide local to your area that covers both flora and fauna), growing/harvesting, foraging, preserving food, etc. Don't be a McCandless.
Also realistically it'll be worthwhile to grab some materials on lockpicking, stealth camping, general hoboism, and clothing/shoe repair.
Alternatively there's the witness protection program.
Personally I would take John Wiseman's SAS Survival Handbook for basic general knowledge. You can find it in pdf format as well. Also I would pick some book with good images, descriptions and handling procedures about local fauna, berries and mushrooms.
Based on SAS-book you could prepare surival-gear pack.
Things where you want to invest : good shoes (one's that are easy to repair and lasts long time), Functional set of clothes suitable for different weather-conditions and seasons depending where you live. Good sleeping bag and backbag (one with some sort of frame).
When picking gear you should pick ones that you can repair on the road (materials that are durable, sewable or ones you can replace with materials you can find on nature).
You want good axe, good knife and cooking set. Saw. Way to secure source of water. Way to make fire : firesteel (matches (packed water-tight), and lighter for emergencies). Compass. Basic set of fishing gear. Some first aid kit.
You also should take some food as foraging, fishing and hunting are not dependable foodsources, especially if you are inexperienced and if the season isn't right.
More experienced you are less you need gear. Also your location sets some requirements for your gear. Living on swamp is different than living on mountains, hills or forests. Also how strong is the change of seasons. Arctic winter takes lots of expertise and more gear to survive and is scarce on foodsources etc etc etc...
>>953323
Also this : hoboism takes less effort different skills than disappearing in the forests. In wilderness you can get killed quite easily - drinking bad water and getting in such weak condition that you eventually fade away, getting foodpoisoning from rotten or poisonous food or getting dehydrated or starving, freezing to death etc... Your chance of getting killed by animals is less probable than getting killed by aforementioned reasons. Even experienced survivalists get killed sometimes. Even if you can fish and forage it's possible to starve little by little without even noticing it. Hunger is not only thing you need to follow there, other things tell lot more of your body's nutrition, hydation and condition etc etc