Tell me why I shouldn't buy a Camaro 1LT 1LE.
>god tier chassis
>revvy (7200RPM) V6 with 335hp and a decent exhaust note
>not light, but definitely not pigfat at 3400ish pounds or so
>great handling/brakes, up to 0.99g of cornering
>under 40k CAD, with $1000 off for military discount because GM
>good enough performance that I can handle it unmodded until warranty runs out (unlike the 86 twins)
I'll start with the obvious
>can't see shit captain
>looks like a riced Hotwheels car
Any other reasons?
Ummm...it doesnt look as good as the mustang?
I like chevys though, I say go for it.
Have you gotten in and out of one op?
Not even memeing. Getting in and out of a 5th gen is like climbing the great wall of china. I can only imagine doing it every day.
>>15555954
350z for half the price
Basically where every BMW ends up...
>61 mph in the fast lane
faggot
speed up when youre in the left lane fucking retarded faggot
>DCT n/a veloster
lmao enjoy your 130 hp
Any UK lads around?
Just bought a Civic type R but the insurer I'm with won't insure me on it because I'm 24 so they'd have to cancel it. Problem is that I'm 1 month away from getting my 3rd no claims bonus and I'm part exchanging my car. If they cancel it, I'd have to start over again for my 3rd no claims bonus
Will I get done for waiting it out for a month and getting my 3rd NCB instead of telling them I don't own my old car no more?
>>15551891
I wouldn't risk it desu. If something goes wrong, you'll get fucked from all angles.
Whats the insurance like for you on those Type R's?
>>15551908
It's about £580 if I had 3 years NCB but It's £670 if I swap it over now.
It completely crossed my mind before I even bought the car.
>>15551915
Where you from? That morros looks familiar.
Alright guys, let me get this one straight.
>the Camaro 2SS is 45k and the BMW is 81k
>the BMW would need to be spec'd up to 95k, or the Camaro would need to be spec'd down to 40k, in order for them to have the same amount of features
>the M4 is slower in a drag race and lost 68/75 attempts
>the M4 was slower in the figure-8 meaning it can't turn as well
>the M4 has a longer braking distance
>the M4 sounds terrible and uses artificial noise to hide the exhaust note
>the M4 has annoying and intrusive driving modes
>the M4 has a numb feeling and non-communicative steering wheel and non-linear gas pedal
>the M4 has a worst gear shifter that feels rubbery
>the M4 doesn't have appreciably better interior quality
Okay, but at least it's faster on the track right?
>it went 1.22.94 to the Camaros 1.23.15
>so you're paying an extra 40,000 to go 1.0025 times faster
>but the Camaro was weighed down by a larger list of features than the modestly spec'd M4
>and they forgot to fill up the gas tank on the BMW, giving it a 50lbs weight advantage due to being half empty
>and Pobst said that the Camaro was easier to drive fast and get consistent times in, meaning that the vast majority of drivers would set better times in the Camaro
>and the 1LE package would make the Camaro quite a bit faster while being 35k cheaper
>and the ZL1 package would make the Camaro WAY faster while STILL being a lot cheaper
Now I understand there are a lot of BMW fans who are on suicide watch, who may have just attempted suicide. I'm sure most of you are fine, since your BMW isn't fast enough to hit a wall at high enough speeds to kill you. For those of your now typing from your hospital bed, I ask of you, what makes the M4 a better car?
>>15549612
>8 cylinders literally cannot compete
>>15549625
Wut
>>15549612
How many cars do you own, /o/?
>tfw 0
>>15547896
feels thread?
>I own my dream car and it's just collecting rust outside...
>>15547896
drive =/= own
do you drive your parents' car?
>>15547896
I own two shit boxes
A 1985 aw11 and a 1993 ae101 that I'm soon going to replace the exhaust manifold
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>>15545369
Yay!
thoughts on lr4 as an overland rig?
>>15546854
No
Are any of these things reliable?
>>15549508
Buy a civic
>>15549519
Slower than ST, not RWD like BRZ, ugly as fuck
>>15549508
god the camaro is so fucking ugly.
how hard and expensive would it be to make a naturally aspirated engine make as much power as though it was given forced induction, but without going that route?
is making power through natural aspiration a lost cause?
>>15549002
you need to specify a number. as an example a 3 litre 2JZ can make 1000hp.
to get a 3 litre NA car to make that it needs to be F1 spec and will be dead after 3 hours
It doesn't have to be as powerful because it has a broader more useful powerband and instant throttle response. With e85, meth injection, nitrous you can get some good results.
Aren't vans more convenient to haul stuff?
>>15548349
Not really. Its pretty nice being able to toss shit over the bedrail.
And vans have that rapewagon stigma to them.
Full size trucks still hit that American Harley bone, why buy a girl truck when you can shell out more cash for a heavy duty 4x4 truck?
Professionals use vans, yeah. Leave anything valuable or portable in a truck bed it will be stolen.
Trucks are kinda like murrican drive to be independant. Sometimes you need a truck to haul shit or traverse a ditch in the winter. It's never nesscity truck owners will always say 'oh I need to tow a jetski/dirtbike/camper' when they really don't. Or they think they need a truck because they go down dirt roads its just justifying the choice to themselves because they really got a truck for subcultural reasons, ego, or whatever.
>4cyl with dual exhaust
>aftermarket radio stock
>aftermarket spoiler stock
>premium rims on base model
>2,700rpm at 60mph
>>15543869
A shitty car like that has no business looking and sounding so good.
This tickles my fancy
>>15543875
It's not shitty though. Handles nice, good mpgs and it's got really supportive seats.
Post about trucks in here. Ask questions or buying advice or spam pictures of your rust buckets.
I'm purchasing a 2008 Ranger today with the 2.3 L engine and manual transmission. According to ford the towing capacity is only 1400 lbs for the stock ball hitch on the bumper. If I mount a new tow receiver to the frame, will that increase my towing capacity? Or would I need to re-gear to do that?
I have no need for towing now, but it would be nice to have the capacity to pull a bass boat in the future.
Currently have a CR-V but I've really been wanting to get a truck now that I have a full-time job. Don't need anything large, so I came across this
https://maine.craigslist.org/cto/5689999584.html
Honestly I could care less for the lift but the 4x4 capability would be nice for winter. The main thing I'm hesitant about is the mileage, but I know that rangers are common and probably not that hard for me to do my own work on. Does anyone know if there's anything in here I should be worried about, or would this be a decent deal?
>>15534905
>4 cylinder Ranger
>bass boat
That'll suck so bad you'll only do it once
>CVT shill
absolutely disgusting
Is he fucking stupid
>>15546689
He's certainly a total sperg, just look at how he communicates with other people.
Wouldn't be surprised if he was actually a high functioning retard.
>>15546675
I'm assuming that since the title is a question, the answer is no. Otherwise the title would be "Why CVTs are the best(fastest) transmissions)
How da hell do i make my honda integra rwd ?
>>15550281
install gentoo
>>15550292
i wana make it into a Drift beast for cheap what da hell is a gentoo? also i dont have a garage so what tools do i need i can work on my lawn
You can't make cars rwd, moron. They're stuck that way
Why don't you have a pick-up?
I don't like big loud trucks I like tiny quiet ones.
>lolcantturn
>lolnohandling in general
>terrible gas mileage
>attracts douchecunts
>don't need to haul anything
>makes me look like a shitpump
>>15546046
Motorcycles achieve the same goal while being actually fun to drive
>tfw mechanics try and rip you off cuz youre a girl and they think girls know nothing about cars
fuck off
>>15544577
>man with a mental disorder thinks he's a girl
>b-but muh feminine penis
>>15544577
Mechanics try to rip everyone off.
Also no one thinks you're a girl.