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>>17822626
copypasta from a previous thread.
To understand Scion, first you need to understand how Scion came to be In 1999, Toyota decided they needed to capture the hearts, minds, and wallets, of the youth generation. It all started with a cooperation of many Japanese companies, They came together for a brand of things specific to Japan that were to be marketed relentlessly to the youth under a brand called WiLL. There were WiLL refrigerators , laptop and desktop computers (made by Sony. IIRC, the US market equivalent was the Sony Vaio), cell phones, and of course, cars. Toyota made 3 cars for the WiLL brand (pic related), 2 were based on the Yaris (US market Echo), and the last was based on the Voltz (US market Pontiac Vibe). Pic related is the WiLL VS, based on the Voltz.

The WiLL project got Toyota inspired though. If this could work in Japan, there was a chance it could work more lucratively in the United States, their largest market. but first they had to find out what young Americans wanted.
This led to the start of Project Genesis. Genesis took 3 US market cars and advertised them different from the rest of the line up to find what clicked. While most of Toyota's line up were advertised for their practicality and reliability, these 3 cars were marketed as fun, and fast. The 3 cars were the Toyota Echo, the Toyota Celica, and the Toyota MR2 Spyder.
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>>17822691
Project Genesis ended in 2001 and was branded a huge failure, but one they learned from.
The Echo wasn't quirky or unique enough to capture their imaginations.
The MR2, though desired by many young Americans, failed because dealer markups (because sports car) pushed the price of them out of the range of the intended market.
The Celica caught on though. It was unique enough to capture imaginations. It was sporty enough to not be a complete poser, and as a hatchback, it was practical enough for youth to use as a DD.
Project Genesis then led into Project Exodus, later renamed Scion. Exodus built on the lessons learned from Genesis, to great success. From the MR2, they learned they would need to employ the technique of no-haggle-pricing borrowed from GM's Saturn division (which had had success in the youth market). This kept the cars at sticker price. Dealers were not allowed to mark up or they'd lose the right to sell any Toyota products, period.
From the Celica, they realized hatchbacks made everything more practical for the youth and made cars usable for everyday driving. A Celica replacement was quickly developed for Exodus (The Scion tC).
From the Echo, they learned the cars needed to be interesting and quirky, with often controversial styling. They also learned they needed a new brand. Young buyers didn't want to own a car from the same brand with dull and lifeless products like the Camry and Corolla. A California ad firm was contracted to develop the brand, logo, and advertising. Scion was the result.
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>>17822699
Something else unexpected they learned from Genesis, from the Success of the Celica, was the importance of personalization. They noticed most of the Celica's had been modified and personalized. Ka-ching! Big opportunity there! This led to the Optomize Scion program. With the program, Toyota would foot the bill for other companies to develop bolt on aftermarket parts for Scion vehicles. These parts would then be made available at dealerships through TRD and wouldn't void the warranty. This would be a huge selling point for many buyers.
Scion got their own headquarters in California separate from Toyota and announced themselves to the world in 2002 with a few concept cars (the BBX and CCX) which previewed what their production cars would look like (the xB and tC respectively). Scion released the xA and xB to the public in 2003 in California only initially to troubleshoot any problems before rolling out the brand to the rest of the country. The xA and xB were both based on the failed Echo, but were much more interesting. Scion wasn't keen on the original xB, feeling the styling too radical, and predicted the more conventional looking xA would outsell the xB 2 to 1. They were wrong. The xB's love it or hate it styling caught on in a major way, quickly developing a cult following. The were well-built, practical, attention-grabbing, and infinitely customizable. Advertising often touted the cars as a blank canvas

>>17822297
Post a picture of it and I will

>>17822297

is that a sunfire with a body kit

>>17822297
sweet 15 dollar seat covers

>>17822135
Track days mate. Track days.

>>17822157
>I use my car twice a year on a track filled with amateur drivers in their miatas
>and i spent $500,000 on it

fuck off.

>>17822180
>not knowing that track days are every weekend at most tracks not holding big events
Dude, you fuck off.
Shitty thread has been saged.

Terrible and for plebeians.

The mechanism itself is the best implementation of shifting for autos. Unfortunately, paddles do not a great transmission make. Not everything is PDK.

>>17821840
My friend's Hyundai has them as part of their double clutch box. I understand this is probably the worst possible example of a dct ever in human history, but I can kind immagine how a better one would work. EXTREAMLY boring. Like playing a videogame. Exactly the same ( actually the Hyundai is worse) as "manual mode" in my automatic VW

Sometimes I don't wear my seatbelt when I pop over to the gas station because it's relatively close and I'm lazy.
If it's a commute I'll wear it.

>>17821592
I dont mind wearing it, but i hate vehicles that have nanny features like the alarm or muting the audio.

>>17821592
because they're morons

What makes the squeak, the clutch action or the shifter?

>>17821158
I believe it's the clutch. It doesn't happen normally though, only when shifting really fast.

>>17821135
Don't slam the goddamn gears you mustang monkey

why

if youre gonna get this shitbox at least get the 1.5

>>17820905
or you could buy a twingo for 500 bucks.

Depends on the model. Every manufacturer makes turds and gems.

>>17820704
When this was invented.

>>17820704
Dodge and ford? On the us side is was the mid 2000s
Chevy was more late 2000s after they killed their copypasta brands

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Nobody buys new cars anymore.
What the fuck kind of economics class do you attend?

>>17820189

OP is still in highschool.

Most people buy new cars because they are the easiest to secure financing on. Many people buy $30k new cars that could not afford to buy a $5k used car outright because they are already stuck in a debt cycle or they are just retarded.

is he still a furry?

Another win for the Fiero.

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>>17819830
>Another win
I never knew the Fiero had any of those

early fieros are the aw11 but infinitely shittier

>>17819821
Strangely enough, in a Motortrend faceoff, the '84 Fiero (literally the worst Fiero) proved to handle and brake a lot better than the MR2, and well as still delivering enough power to be enjoyable to drive.

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>>17819740

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>>17819740
Why do car companies always wrap their cars like that for testing?

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>>17820247
To hide the design.

>>17819554
Also I don't know how to count, but that's nothing new on 4chan

Why are americans so fat, dumb and disgusting?

fun

this guys probably been RFID chipped for years

>>17819531
jesus

>>17819531
Tesla drivers don't do much thinking

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Words cannot express how much I hate these wheels. Unfortunately I couldn't get a new set until about a year after owning. Made the whole car ugly imo

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>>17806292
That's not even bad