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New Study Favors Fat Over Carbs

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High carbohydrate intake is associated with a higher risk of mortality, and high fat intake with a lower risk, researchers report.

An international team of scientists studied diet and mortality in 135,335 people between 35 and 70 years old in 18 countries, following them for an average of more than seven years. Diet information depended on self-reports, and the scientists controlled for factors including age, sex, smoking, physical activity and body mass index. The study is in The Lancet.

Compared with people who ate the lowest 20 percent of carbohydrates, those who ate the highest 20 percent had a 28 percent increased risk of death. But high carbohydrate intake was not associated with cardiovascular death.

People with the highest 20 percent in total fat intake — an average of 35.3 percent of calories from fat — had about a 23 percent reduced risk of death compared with the lowest 20 percent (an average of 10.6 percent of calories from fat). Consuming higher saturated fat, polyunsaturated fat and monounsaturated fat were all associated with lower mortality. Higher fat diets were also associated with a lower risk of stroke.


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“Guidelines recommend low saturated fat, and some recommend really low amounts,” said a co-author, Andrew Mente, an epidemiologist at McMaster University in Ontario. “Our study, which captures intake at the lowest levels, shows that this may be harmful.”

Current federal guidelines recommend a diet that provides no more than 35 percent of calories from fat.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/08/well/new-study-favors-fat-over-carbs.html
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>>176609
>healthy fats are better for you than simple carbs
unless i'm not understanding something, this isn't news
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>>176629
>An international team of scientists studied diet and mortality in 135,335 people between 35 and 70 years old in 18 countries, following them for an average of more than seven years.

The news is the scale of the study
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And your point is?? Ya want us to chime for you or agree with it, be awed by it?? Why dont you say qhat you thinkbof it so we can fuck you in the ass? Js
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Is /ck/ usually as funny as the posted shit-thread? I might have to drop by for a peek.
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>>176775
Some times it is mostly people trolling with chicago pizza and fast food there is a good deal of threads like that every few weeks
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>>176775

>>>/ck/9380419
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>>176609
it should be criminal to put up propadanda shit like this.

carbs are healthy. fat is deadly, simple as that. most healthy populations, japs, eat rise and ramen for their calories. they dont consume dairy etc. bullshit
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>>176779
Eskimos are the healthiest by far. Heart attacks are virtually unkown to them. And they eat nothing but fat.
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>>176779
This is like the study that said dietary cholesterol isn't bad

>meaning eggs are equally shit compared to an egg mcmuffin

>>176783
Not true at all. It's just an assumption.

Eskimo people have just as much heart disease as one would expect. Even our cavemen ancestors. Even children on a standard diet have signs (fatty streaks.)

You eat fat and you absorb it. No way around it.
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>>176822
You eat fat and you digest it into sugars you retard.
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>>176824
...When you're starving to death. Under normal situations your body doesn't metabolize fat.

That's why it's hard to lose weight.
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>>176783
Here's some info on the eskimos and masia type diet. These are high in animal fat, yet there have been claims these people are perfectly healthy.

It's not true. Autopsy shows they have extensive atherosclerosis.

http://nutritionstudies.org/masai-and-inuit-high-protein-diets-a-closer-look/

I wish it wasn't true. Sorry.
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>>176825
America does not have a starvation problem they need to lose weight you piece of garbage.
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>>176609
This study is a joke

>Higher carbohydrate intake was associated with an increased risk of total mortality BUT NOT with the risk of cardiovascular disease or cardiovascular disease mortality.

So how does this suggest carbs are bad? Heart disease is our #1 killer, followed closely by diabetes. Both of these killers are reversible with a high carb, vegan diet.

Show me a meat diet that reverses disease. This study makes no case against plants, it is merely pointing out an irrelevant correlation. They didn't even separate different types of diet, "high carb" could mean plant based or sugar cereal based.

This is some feel good "science" straight from the dairy industry.
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>>176834
>>176834
>America does not have a starvation problem they need to lose weight
I agree!
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>>176838
>An international team of scientists studied diet and mortality in 135,335 people between 35 and 70 years old in 18 countries, following them for an average of more than seven years.
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>>176842
This is an irrelevant correlation. They demonstrate no evidence that high carb diets are bad.

What kind of diets were these people even eating? There is no control here.

This isn't strong science, You just like the results.Unless you can state why "carbs" are bad and why fat is good. I put carbs in quotes because that's extremely vague terminology.

If they found that high fiber diets were associated with increased morality, that would be some news.
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>>176609
yep keto diet
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>>176855

ketosis, the "make yourself sick" diet. haha.

Ketogenic diets can help lose weight, but is it worth the increased risk of heart disease?

https://nutritionfacts.org/2015/05/19/low-carb-diets-and-coronary-blood-flow/

>There has only been one study ever done measuring actual blood flow to the heart muscles of people eating low-carb diets.

>compared to the veg group, did the coronary heart disease of the patients following the Atkins-like diets improve, worsen, or stay the same?

>Those sticking to the vegetarian diet showed a reversal of their heart disease as expected. Their partially clogged arteries literally got cleaned out. They had 20% less atherosclerotic plaque in their arteries at the end of the year than at the beginning.

>What happened to those who abandoned the treatment diet, and switched over to the low-carb diet?
>Their condition significantly worsened. 40% to 50% more artery clogging at the end of the year.

This is not as controversial as the twinkie factories lead us to believe. Be wary of those who aim to cast doubt!
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LITERALLY A SOUTHPARK EPISODE. (gluten being carbs for intents and purposes)
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>>176609
fake news
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