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Berkeley Mayor: The University Should Cancel Free Speech Because Leftists Might Riot 2017-08-30 07:37:06 Post No. 173360
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Berkeley Mayor: The University Should Cancel Free Speech Because Leftists Might Riot
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2017-08-30 07:37:06
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In the aftermath of a right-wing rally Sunday that ended with anarchists chasing attendees from a downtown park, Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguin urged UC Berkeley on Monday to cancel conservatives’ plans for a Free Speech Week next month to avoid making the city the center of more violent unrest. “I don’t want Berkeley being used as a punching bag,” said Arreguin, whose city has been the site of several showdowns this year between, on the one hand, the left and its fringe anarchist wing, and on the other, supporters of President Trump who at times have included white nationalists. “I am concerned about these groups using large protests to create mayhem,” Arreguin said. “It’s something we have seen in Oakland and in Berkeley.” The mayor wants UC Berkeley to halt plans by a conservative campus group, the Berkeley Patriot, to host right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos during its scheduled Free Speech Week from Sept. 24-27...
“I’m very concerned about Milo Yiannopoulos and Ann Coulter and some of these other right-wing speakers coming to the Berkeley campus, because it’s just a target for black bloc to come out and commit mayhem on the Berkeley campus and have that potentially spill out on the street,” Arreguin said, referring to militants who have also been called anti-fascists or antifa. The anti-Yiannopoulos protesters inflicted $100,000 worth of damage to the school’s student union in February before taking to the streets of Berkeley, where several businesses’ windows were smashed...“I obviously believe in freedom of speech, but there is a line between freedom of speech and then posing a risk to public safety,” the mayor said. “That is where we have to really be very careful — that while protecting people’s free-speech rights, we are not putting our citizens in a potentially dangerous situation and costing the city hundreds of thousands of dollars fixing the windows of businesses.”
http://archive.is/kW1vb
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>“I obviously believe in freedom of speech, but there is a line between freedom of speech and then posing a risk to public safety,”
Free Speech is not the risk you retarded Commie mayor. Your antifa students are. Fucking lock them up.
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>>173362
And right there is the problem with Antifa. It's not what the speakers are saying that's the problem...it's *that* they're speaking at all. It would be easier for Berkeley to suppress a few pop-dissidents than protect their rights to speak peacefully because the Alt-Left demands it...easier both to do and to sell to the public. Which is a nightmare. Public opinion should not dictate who gets what rights, legislation should.
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>>173382
>And right there is the problem with Antifa. It's not what the speakers are saying that's the problem...it's *that* they're speaking at all.
Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion doesn't mean freedom of Politics; only the elites gets to decides what to do with the peasants.
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>>173396
...and, by and large, those advocating for Free Speech and Free Religion advocate for absolutist versions of those freedoms.
Free Speech has many, many restrictions, and rightfully so. Restrictions against obscenity, direct incitement to riot or violence, harassment, defamation...all perfectly reasonable.
The Alt-Right doesn't see it that way.
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>>173360
If a nuke gets dropped on california, nothing of value would be lost. Wait, no. If it were dropped on the blue parts (west/south.)
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>>173396
Commie
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>>173445
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/#main-findings
A lot of GDP, a lot of technology, a lot of American grown food, and a net gain in tax dollars. In many ways california -could- sustain itself without the federal government. But they don't, because they have to consider what federal taxes are paid to avoid having too much a tax-burden on its citizens.
California technically has more to lose just in staying a state.
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>>173506
I wish they would secede so we could cut off their water.
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>>173396
And in instructing viewers how they can try to expose immigrants to ice, Yiannopolos sets a prescedent for almost all of that. And worse, he encourages the kind of informer system common to the worst and most despotic regimes.
The kind of person that actually -wants- this is nothing but a bootlicker.
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>>173507
>I wish I could commit human atrocities.
Cool dude.
>I don't realize that water is a tradeable commodity
Also cool.
>I also don't realize what inter-state commerce is
Really neat. Just super cool from you states rights guys.
>I don't realize that water in the form of federal aid is a quantifiable cost that can be measured against a state's tax contributions.
Man do you have an objective, non-emotional grasp over the whole situation
>there are people who unironically believe this
I mean there's a pretty good possibility that you're just fuckin with me. But that hardly matters.
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>>173445
most of us liberals don't agree with using violence to silence ideas and political violence occurs on the far right as well in recent past in the US.
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>>173445
Let me guess... Texas?
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>>173445
>if Silicon Valley and Hollywood were destroyed, nothing of value would be lose
Where would you get your cuck porn from?
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>>173362
>Your antifa students are.
I'm not a Berkely expert but speaking to Berkely alumni the impression I get is that a big chunk, maybe most of the antifa rioters aren't students but rather townie hooligans who riot recreationally.
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People have been saying a citizens' revolution will be necessary if the republican legislature refuses to depose Trump if he pardons himself or any witnesses who refuse to testify against him regarding collusion with Russia to influence the election. Because at that point presumably there is no institutional barrier to a single party state, where Republicans can forever work to fix elections and then pardon themselves until there are no civil liberties remaining.
What is everyone's opinion on that matter here?
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>>173694
These people are complete fucking retards unless they have evidence that the Republicans are actively fixing elections or that Trump will actually kill us all before the next one. Civil wars kill fractions of the population measured in percents.
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>>173694
Trump will break FDRs streak.
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>>173695
>evidence that the Republicans are actively fixing elections
You mean rampant gerrymandering isn't attempting to fix elections by concentrating likely democratic voters into few districts or diluting them? Republicans have 22 extra seats in the house over what would be expected given vote averages. And without evidence of mass illegal voting, why is there a "voter fraud" panel run by Kris Kobach? Why did Russian bots run a microtargetting campaign to benefit trump during the last election, something republicans do everything in their power to avoid discussing how to mitigate risk for future elections? These all seem quite anti-democratic behaviors designed to do nothing more than to preserve Republican majorities despite changing vote averages.
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>>173726
>These all seem quite anti-democratic behaviors
So is the electoral college, but "fixing elections" is illegal, and gerrymandering is not. Want to be ungerrymandered? Win a local election.
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what a human pile of shit, hey dumb ass . your ass in in the sling. your officers stood down how many times already. you know when they chose that tactic it means i have to defend myself and i will . how long before someone has to shoot these punks before the police do their jobs and this tool is brought up on charges I'm thinking use 42 1983 also use 18 section 241 242 . but ill be defending myself and this is why we have the second amendment
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>>173506
>In many ways california -could- sustain itself without the federal government
Californian here. There is no fucking way this is true. The legislature here is quickly hitting critical mass in terms of self-assured stupidity by raising taxes left and right. We have a high GPD right now but that means jack shit if most of the residents are below poverty level. Also, we're apparently one of the most vulnerable states when it comes to recession. The California government's delusions of grandeur will be this state's undoing, mark my words.
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>>173726
Are you really too stupid to see that Dems gerrymander like mad too? It's political cancer but the parties will never give it up because it benefits them when they're in control.
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>>173694
The real story is that the FBI isn't giving Hilary's emails, and WAS SUBPOENAED.
Your Russia collusion is much more likely actually happening between the Dems and other governments.
Debbie Wasseerman, Paki aide
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>>173396
What does that even mean?
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>>173419
Letting someone express their opinions is protected. Just because some alt left facists can't handle that doesn't mean It should not be allowed.
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>>173506
Most the the tax payers are Republican. The leeches are the blue people.
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>>173512
Liberals aren't people.
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>>173694
There is no Russia collusion nonsense. The Mueller prob is nothing but a fishing expedition that hasn't uncovered anything criminal about Trump. The onky smoking gun is manaforts financial dealing that have nothing to do with the election.
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>>173694
>What is everyone's opinion on that matter here?
That liberals are insane if they being this nonsense.
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>>173726
The system isn't rigged you're just losing.
Besides Democrat voter fraud is more a problem than any of those fake problems you listed.
The only paid shills in the election were proven to be Hillary campaign workers and media matters trolls.
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>>173829
>Besides Democrat voter fraud
Trump's voter fraud panel found anything yet?
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>>173777
The Democrat party had been gerrymandering longer than anyone else and up until a few years ago the goo didn't even do it at all. But now that the left is losing they think it's a problem.
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>>173831
Millions of illegals
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>>173694
>People have been saying a citizens' revolution will be necessary
Please do this.
Nothing would make me happier than being able to slaughter the left. I would commit so many war crimes it wou
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If the situation was flipped, the police would be out there immediately cracking skulls. But, when we're dealing with Communist Anarchists, individuals can't have a rally because the "counter-protestors" will commit crimes?
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>>173419
>obscenity
Is SCOTUS alt-right now?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen_v._California
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>>173508
They're illegal immigrants. You do realize there are hotlines to tip off law enforcement about criminal acts?
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