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https://www.yahoo.com/politics/it-s-either-trump-or-1317957587198006.html
Hello /news/, I come from /pol/ and have been lurking since the board was created. I have a few questions got you.
1) How many people do you think post on this board
2) How/why does this board have such quality discussion? Is it due to being a text board without flags? How can /pol/ improve their quality of discussions?
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>>7856
In my opinion there are only about 20 or 30 regular posters, no more than 50 or 60 at most. If there is a breaking news event that number goes up though.

I'm not sure what can be done with /pol/, but I'm sure opinions here will vary wildly. Personally I think it's become too tinfoil for my tastes lately. Too much flat earth and illuminati BS. I think Hiro needs to make a /tin/foil conspiracy board for these people.
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>>7856
> How many people do you think post on this board
God seriously, I can only pick out maybe fifteen. Doesn't mean there aren't more, I'm only basing this on how many unique personalities I interact with.

> How/why does this board have such quality discussion?
It's slower, so it's easier to take time to think out your arguments. A well-thought out post on /pol/ might exist for thirty minutes, and maybe one or two people read it. You never get a response because by the time people have had time to formulate their arguments, the thread has 404'd.

>How can /pol/ improve their quality of discussions?
You probably can't. /pol/ is what it is because there are people who want to post what gets posted there. If you try and reform it into something it's not, those people will have to go elsewhere--- they may end up coming here.

I don't think /pol/ is a bad thing though. It's an intimate look at things people keep hidden in polite society. Some people call it a "dark underbelly" but I think that misunderstands the value of it. It's lives on gut truths, things people know--or think they know--without all the polish, glitz, and virtuous posturing. This is why it's so hilarious.
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>7856
It'd help if /pol/ wasn't an echo chamber circlejerk where anything not extremist far right is screamed at until it leaves. /pol/ is just tumblr for psycho ultra conservatives.

>inb4 I go to /pol/ and I am not conservative token post
Then you are a masochist.

The problem with /pol/ is it's a political board that only allows one side of a political argument. Sadly, I've had better more varied political debates on /b/ than I have on /pol/ simply because there were more varied opinions besides "nutjob hillbilly conservative"

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>Over the past year or so, Facebook has made increasingly aggressive attempts to chip away at YouTube’s dominance in the world of short Internet videos. It hasn’t made a dent yet, according to one key measure.

>Sandvine, a networking company that reports on which services use the most bandwidth, just published its most recent numbers. YouTube’s share of U.S. Internet activity grew to 17.9 percent, up from 14 percent a year ago. Facebook’s share is only 2.5 percent, down from the 3 percent it claimed a year ago.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-07/facebook-falls-back-in-war-on-youtube
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>>7745
The graph is kind of odd.
Like, of course you'll have Netflix at the top because people will stream full movies on it.

Youtube is mostly shorter stuff.
I'm not so sure about the Facebook stuff, but isnt it mostly just very short Vine-style clips?

Its an odd way to measure popularity. It should be click based instead or something.
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>>7746
Facebook is stolen Youtube content.
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>>7746
Most Facebook vids (any "viral" ones anyway) are quite literally reuploads of Youtube videos, sometimes even by the same uploader. The Youtube ones always have way more views too, despitte it being quicker/easier to share on Facebook, which is the only reason viral Facebook vids are a thing at all.

Youtube is too big, it'll probably always be the go-to for user-created video content.

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http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/community-burns-nine-thugs-to-death-on-east-rand-20151211

>Johannesburg - An angry community took matters into their own hands when a group of men attempted to rob and rape women in the Everest informal settlement in Springs on the East Rand on Thursday.

>Ekurhuleni Metro Police Department spokesperson Clifford Shongwe said the community caught nine of the men and burned them to death.

>“The community said that in most cases these thugs did as they pleased. In certain instances they raped women in front of their husbands and children. If anybody intervened they were shot dead,” Shongwe said.

>The men are believed to be from Lesotho.

>According to Shongwe, the local SA Police Service members were biased towards the criminals.

>“The local SAPS is biased towards the thugs as they always get money in a form of bribery from criminals. It has been a trend and norm that SAPS members are usually seen coming to the informal settlement to collect money from criminals,” Shongwe said.

>Gauteng police were not immediately available for comment.

Glad to see that the end of Apartheid is working for them just like Zimbabwe
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>>8149
Sounds like another average Thursday in South Africa.
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>>8151
Yeah, hasn't this been going on for a couple years now?
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and that is how /pol/ was born

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/12/top-rwanda-genocide-suspect-arrested-drc-151210134442424.html

One of nine top fugitive Rwandan genocide suspects, a former mayor accused of crimes against humanity, has been arrested in the Democratic Republic of Congo, the United Nations has said.

Ladislas Ntaganzwa is accused of organising "the massacre of thousands of Tutsis at various locations", the UN-backed Mechanism for International Criminal Tribunals (MICT) said in a statement issued on Thursday, a day after the arrest.

"He was also alleged to have orchestrated rape and sexual violence committed against many women," the statement said. No details of his arrest were given.

About 800,000 people - mostly members of the minority Tutsi community - were slaughtered in the 100-days of violence in 1994, largely by ethnic Hutus.

Ntaganzwa, 53, is expected to face trial in Rwanda on nine counts of genocide, crimes against humanity and violating the Geneva Conventions.
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Though I doubt many are going to concern themselves with this article, I find it pretty interesting that they've caught this person after such a long time. Apparently the US had a decent bounty for his capture. I doubt we'll hear anything enlightening when he goes to trial, but I feel like the more press cases like these get, the more chance African countries that are willing to, can start to recover from past horrors and prevent further increases in conflict, especially ethnically motivated conflicts.
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>>8051
Could I move to Africa and make a killing getting paid for these Bounties? Are there alotta people like him running around, money waiting to be made?
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>>8050
so... how true is the official story? It portrays the massacre as one sided, but in reality we only have the word of the winners against no proper record, any attempt at investigation (like sampling those skulls there) is called out as genocide denialism, and the new president in office is US-backed.

Also, which side actually killed the previous president.

I find it very hard to believe that the genocide was so one-sided as the official story goes, and "innocent until proven guilty" only applies to whenever you are not obstructing investigation on the subject.

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This is bullshit.
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>>7875
On a scale of 1 to sasha grey, how fucked is the US if shale collapses?
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Is being so nice to Saudi Arabia paying off? Looks like no.
9/11: Saudi Arabia
Islamic State: Saudi Arabia

What is the USA waiting for?

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Man drove 200 miles from KY to IN and picked a random house, broke in, stabbed a 6 year old boy to death and attacked his siblings.
http://wgntv.com/2015/12/09/indianapolis-nurse-drives-to-kentucky-to-kill-6-year-old-boy-police/
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He was on his way to buy some milk
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He dindu nuffin'! hes a good boy, just oppressed!
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>>>/7000/

Search the catalog before making news threads pls.

1. Angela Merkel
2. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
3. Donald Trump
4. Black Lives Matter
5. Hassan Rouhani
6. Travis Kalanick
7. Caitlyn Jenner

http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2015-angela-merkel-choice/?iid=bottomrecirc

Discuss
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>>7602
Why is that murderer Caitlyn Jenner even on the list?
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Is this a list for Americans or is it supposed to represent the world? Because I don't see how some "literally who?" Americans are on the same level as globally relevant statesmen.
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>>7606
The only one I didn't know is Travis Kalanick, who it turns out is the founder and CEO of Uber.

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PARIS–Cronyism is on display here at the United Nations climate conference (COP21), as developing countries aren’t the only ones trying to cash in on carbon regulations.

The conference is full of exhibitors showcasing their carbon cutting technologies–each of which would benefit greatly from taxing carbon or forcing commitments to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

The general conference arena contains rooms filled with vendors demonstrating how their business is reducing mankind’s carbon footprint. They include:

Reinsurance companies (warning against greater costs from extreme weather events).
Water systems companies.
Companies that make charging stations for electric vehicles.
Organizations dedicated to planting more trees.
Companies dedicated to capturing carbon from power plants and storing it underground.

The list is certainly exhaustive. The problem with all of them, however, is that they’re in Paris pushing for special privileges that will help their businesses at the expense of their competitors and at the expense of a competitive free market.

It doesn’t matter what policies are advocated for – subsidies for carbon free energy technologies, a Green Climate Fund that finances green projects in developing countries, regulations that restrict the use of carbon-emitting natural resources or a carbon tax – those with special connections will benefit and the costs will be dispersed among the rest of us.

These are policies that will cost American households and businesses – at least those businesses not connected to politicians and bureaucrats – leading to lower levels of output, income and employment.

Because more than 80 percent of America and the world’s energy needs are met through carbon-emitting conventional fuels like natural gas and coal, reducing CO2 emissions will increase energy prices and force consumers to use less.

http://dailysignal.com/2015/12/10/green-cronyism-is-on-full-display-in-paris/
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>>8024
>The conference is full of exhibitors showcasing their carbon cutting technologies–each of which would benefit greatly from taxing carbon or forcing commitments to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

The Environmentalist movement has been co-opted by Wall Street which smells the massive profits that will come from manipulating "carbon credits", the hippies just haven't caught on to it yet and won't until it's too late and we're all fucked.
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>some people are financially motivated to reduce the use of fossil fuels!
>fossil fuel industry has nothing at stake
Which industry spend more money lobbying the U.S. government?

>reducing CO2 emissions will increase energy prices and force consumers to use less.
I bet everyone in Bejing wishes they'd been paying more and using less for the last 20 years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/world/asia/beijing-smog-pollution.html
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>>8024
>Implying that it's possible for a westernised economy to cut down on energy useage in any way other than better engineering.
>He doesn't know that cheap electronic consumables are about the only thing distracting the majority of people under 30 from rioting in the streets. The other thing is the SJW... counter riots? False Flag Riots?
>Implying that renewable energy isn't a win for everyone aside from the oil companies.

>>8062
>Implying op isn't an oil shill

I'm not saying that I believe every single statistic the green lobby spits out, but securing humanities energy needs for the next few centuries in exchange for a few white lies is a burden I'm willing to bear.

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Actor Shia LaBeouf has launched his latest performance artwork in Liverpool, asking members of the public to phone him and "touch his soul".

What the fuck?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35059685
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Sounds like a prime trolling opportunity.
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>>7840
>LaBeouf made his name in films like the Transformers series, Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps and Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

I'd question my right to being famous too.
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this is a golden opportunity

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http://neurope.eu/article/government-in-finland-will-put-asylum-seekers-to-work-without-a-pay/

A nice way to handle it.
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>>7559
Maybe they could make work camps for them, camps in which works makes you free...
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>>7559
>refugees will steal both your country and your job
Nice
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>>7559
>nice way
this displaces a finn man from a job

I say it again and again mass immigration only benefits corporations because it dilutes the value of the middle class worker and sleazy leftist who gains an instant voter base. they just let the media they also own sugarcoat it under trendy BS like racism and diversity so the morons eat it up

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MONTREAL • A late spring caused Canada’s maple syrup production to fall for the second consecutive year in 2015 — and El Nino is threatening to put a dent in next spring’s output as well.

The warmer El Nino weather is expected to have an impact on a number of commodities, including maple sap, said Sylvain Charlebois, professor of distribution and food policy at the University of Guelph’s Food Institute.

“I see little evidence that would encourage anyone to see a good year in 2016,” he said in an interview.

The impact would hit Quebec, the world’s dominant maple syrup producer, along with Ontario, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and syrup-producing U.S. states like Vermont and New York.

Producers on both sides of the border aren’t yet ready, however, to throw in the towel.

The Federation of Quebec Maple Syrup Producers says it’s too soon to know what impact warmer conditions could have next spring.

“Nobody can predict the production of each year,” said federation deputy director Paul Rouillard.

He also doubts that weather poses a long-term problem for Quebec, because colder parts of the province could — over several decades — pick up the slack from more affected regions. Quebec’s federation, representing about 7,300 producers, is seeking approval to add 2.5 million taps to the 43 million already active each year.

Quebec’s supply management system keeps syrup prices high by using its strategic reserve — which contains 60 million pounds — to balance production fluctuations.

A shorter season also affected U.S. maple production last year but it’s premature to forecast weather problems several months ahead, said Matthew Gordon, executive director of the Vermont Maple Sugar Makers Association.

“It certainly could have an impact, but I wouldn’t base any business decisions on it right now,” he said.

http://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/stock-up-on-your-maple-syrup-el-nino-could-spell-a-bad-year-for-sap
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>>8018
This is a sappy news article...
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>>8018

Fuck you maple syrup. Its like 50 dollars half a litre.

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>two weeks since the board's been up
>hasn't even reached its 8000th post
>/leftypol/ everywhere
>Trump everywhere
>/int/ still occasionally posting their ebin local news threads

What is even the point of this board?

Have another Trump article courtesy of this shithole of a site:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/10/donald-trump-to-postpone-israel-trip-until-after-i-become-president-of-the-us
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U seem a lil mad
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>>7883
real life is very interesting, you don't need to make shit up.
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>>7851
Post more real news then, faggot

The quality of the board is left up to the people that post on it.

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An investigative report published in July by Novaya Gazeta reporter Elena Milashina documented that, beginning in 2011, the FSB had established “safe routes” for North Caucasian militants to travel to Syria, where it was providing the necessary documents for travel.

The report claimed that FSB officers directly aided potential jihadis who wanted to leave Russia to fight in the Middle East.

While the FSB has not admitted aiding potential extremists, FSB deputy director Eugene Sysoev recently heralded Russia’s success in “[achieving] a sustained reduction in terrorist activity” inside Russia. He cited a reduction in “crimes of a terrorist nature” over the previous year, and claimed a ten-fold reduction in terrorist activity in the North Caucasus over the past five years.

In the same remarks, made in November, Sysoev admitted that at least 20 percent of foreign fighters in the Islamic State are from Russia and other post-Soviet countries, an assessment somewhat similar to estimates from private security consulting groups.

The interview with the purported FSB defector advanced the idea that Russia may be exporting its extremists, detailing how Russian security services have recruited Muslims to infiltrate extremist groups in Europe and materially supported their advancement within these organizations.

When asked if Russian agents could be involved in the recent terrorist attacks in Paris, Yevgeniy said there was “complicity in acts of terrorism.” He continued, “And the complicity could be direct or indirect. By analyzing their connections, one, of course, will be able to see the ties leading to Russia. Primarily Russia could benefit from this, and the Russian security services had all the possibilities to organize this.”

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/moscows-connection-to-the-islamic-state/
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The Islamic State has claimed responsibility for the Paris attacks.

On the Russian periphery, it is widely believed that Russia has used the Islamic State as an opportunity to get rid of domestic jihadis.

“In spring 2014, local information networks provided credible information that individuals affiliated with Russian security forces were recruiting potential jihadists in Pankisi and in the Northern Caucasus to travel to Syria,” says Giga Bokeria, a former Georgian national security adviser. “They were promising financing for trips, and assistance acquiring weapons.”
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Pankisi is a remote, mountainous Georgian region bordering Russia with a local population of Georgian Muslims, known as Kists. Omar al-Shishani, one of the Islamic State’s top commanders, is from Pankisi.

Oleksandr Danylyuk, formerly chief of staff to Ukraine’s Minister of Defense and now chairman of Ukraine’s Center for Defense Reforms, believes there is a strong connection between the Islamic State and the Russian government.

“ISIS is definitely a product of the Russian special services. Only the blind cannot see it. A significant part of the terrorists are citizens of the Russian Federation,” Danylyuk said, using a common acronym for the Islamic State. “The ISIS military command is composed of former Saddam Hussein generals, who studied in the Soviet Union and worked closely with the KGB,” says Danylyuk.

“The connection between the Russian-speaking jihadis and the Russian-trained ex-Baathist Sunni military officers is what formed the core of what we now think of as ISIS,” said Estonian expert Eerik-Niiles Kross.

Kross, now a member of Estonian parliament, is a former director of the Estonian intelligence services, and served under the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq in 2003-2004, working to rebuild the Iraqi military intelligence organization.
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“Based on Russia’s history of infiltrating and manipulating terrorist organizations and extremist groups, it’s not so far-fetched to believe there is an operational relationship — at some level — between Russian security services and elements of ISIS,” he said.

The conflict in Syria has allowed Russia to rebuild relationships with European countries that were damaged by the Russian intervention in Ukraine.

While the White House remains publicly cautious about collaborating with Russia against the Islamic State because of Russia’s support for Bashar al-Assad, the possibility of a Russian connection to terrorist attacks in Western countries would add a new element to Russia’s relationship to the West.

In Washington, however, Russia’s relationship with Islamic radicals has not been seriously evaluated, according to several congressional sources.

“The issue of Russia’s relationship with ISIS has been raised in closed door briefings on the Hill,” said one senior staffer with knowledge of recent intelligence briefings to lawmakers. “It’s unclear how much the administration has looked into this issue.”

But people in states close to Russia say American and other Western officials have been reluctant to accept information on Russian involvement in recruitment for extremist groups despite the use of explicitly anti-American rhetoric as incitement for enlistment.

“More than 80 percent of ISIS’s weapons are Russian-made,” offers Danylyuk. “In Syria and Iraq we are witnessing the same form of hidden aggression as in Ukraine.”

“The problem is,” he says, “if Russia is recruiting for ISIS, and ISIS is attacking European and American targets — will anyone be willing to say that Russia bears responsibility in these attacks?”

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/moscows-connection-to-the-islamic-state/

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3349803/Muslim-convert-faces-jail-threatening-bomb-MP-s-house.html

A Muslim convert who protested outside Parliament with a sign saying 'I am Muslim, do you trust me enough for a hug?' is facing jail for threatening to bomb an MP's house.
Craig Wallace used the sign as Stop The War protesters came to Westminster for the vote on military action in Syria last week.
It stated: 'I am Muslim, I am labelled a terrorist, I trust you, do you trust me enough for a hug?'
But the 23-year-old, of Willesden Green, north London, is now facing a possible prison sentence after he threatened Tory MP Charlotte Leslie online following the vote.
Wallace, who calls himself Muhammad Mujahid Islam online, wrote on Facebook: 'I'm going to smash her windows then drop a bomb on her house while she's tucked up in bed. You dirty f****** pig-s******* s***.'

On December 3, the day after MPs voted to authorise the air strikes, he wrote: 'I'm going to find her and show her what it's like to murder innocents. You dirty pig-f****** w****.'
He also described shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn as a 'war criminal' and a 'terrorist' the day after the Commons vote to bomb Syria.
His defence lawyer Abu Sayeed said Wallace had posted the messages after he had been out protesting against the Syrian bombing vote for 'two or three days and had very little sleep and had not taken his medication.'
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Wallace has a string of convictions for violent offences including possession of a knife.
He converted to Islam while in prison serving a sentence of almost five years for attempted robbery
Three weeks after he was released he posted the messages on a thread of comments on the UK Truth Movement Facebook page.
Wallace today pleaded guilty to sending threatening communications at Hendon Magistrates' Court.

Wearing a white traditional Islamic dress and a grey jumper slung over his shoulders, he spoke only to confirm his name and address before entering a guilty plea.
He was remanded in custody and will be sentenced on December 30.
The court heard the messages came to light after Ms Leslie's father saw the comments online and reported them to police.
Wallace claimed he was 'venting his anger' and had not had any sleep because he had been 'protesting for two or three days'.
District Judge Mark Jabbitt said: 'What's absolutely clear is that your language and expressions about this MP Ms Leslie, who you have no knowledge of, went beyond any sort of legitimate comment or protest on an extremely serious issue.
'What you did was personalised it and used really the most vile, insulting and threatening language imaginable on a forum.'
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He ordered a full risk assessment report on Wallace and expressed concern that he was not being formally supervised after his release from prison.
Abu Sayeed, defending, said Wallace has mental health issues and had not been taking his anti-psychotic medication.
'He has co-operated fully with the police and expressed remorse and regret,' he added. 'He made the comments to vent his anger.
'Mr Wallace is a Muslim convert, he converted while serving his last sentence. He feels very passionately about the bombing in Syria and the vote recently taken in Parliament.
'He had been out with other protesters and was protesting for two or three days and not had much sleep and hadn't taken his medication.'
Wallace has never met Ms Leslie and thought the page was a 'closed group', Mr Sayeed said.
'In the current climate people would have been fearful of his comments,' he added.

Wallace, whose mother died when he was young and who claims his father abused him as a child, had attended an anti-war rally outside Parliament on the day of the Syria vote and was pictured carrying a giant white poppy.
Shortly before he sent the messages he also posed for a series of pictures with strangers carrying a placard that read: 'I am Muslim, I am labelled a terrorist, I trust you, do you trust me enough for a hug?'.
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The day after the vote Wallace sent Mr Benn an email, which he then posted on his Facebook page.
It said: 'I hope to God that you will have nightmares when you hear that kids woman and men have been murdered by your govt.'
The court heard Wallace had been in and out of custody since he was 13 after being expelled from school following the death of his mother when he was eight.
The judge warned Wallace the maximum sentence for the offence was six months.

Wallace, of Teignmouth Road, Willesden Green was remanded into custody, while risk assessments reports were carried out.
He is next appear at Willesden Magistrates court for sentencing on December 30.
A number of other MPs, many of them in the Labour Party, have complained to police that they had received death threats after voting in favour of airstrikes on Islamic State in Syria.
Neil Coyle, the MP for Bermondsey and Old Southwark, said police had stationed extra officers outside his surgery after he received an apparent death threat on social media, while Labour Rochdale MP Simon Danczuk has spoken out about receiving an apparent death threat on Facebook after he voted in favour of the military action.

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BREAKING NEWS

Isis surrenders to anonymous!
In a public statement leader of ISIS Abu al Baghdadi "we have been outmemed and my Twitter got hacked. God willing we will lay down our arms."
Peace is restored to the middle east!

http://www.mediaite.com/online/anonymous-declares-dec-11-isis-trolling-day-invites-web-users-to-target-daeshbags/
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>>7646
>In a public statement leader of ISIS Abu al Baghdadi "we have been outmemed and my Twitter got hacked. God willing we will lay down our arms."
If real then ISIS are true troll masters.
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>>7646
>Daeshbags

That actually elicited a giggle from me

Although tbh anonymous has become more and more reddit over the years.
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If Anonymous really wanted to stop ISIS they would hack their Facebook profiles and post gay porn all over them.

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