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I'm tired of this shit. Everyday this ppl make acting like monkeys more and more acceptable in society. We're supposed to be civilized, instead we just bow down to these subhumans and let them do or say whatever they want because 'muh racism'
Fuck this country
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>>170651

When you drive the coloreds and race traitors from your lands.
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Jesus Christ you people fall for the easiest outrage bait available
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>>170675
It's real shit tho you clown. In the video she chews out some poor old woman who made an honest mistake. Now all the spooks on twitter are applauding this

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TRUMP LOOKING AT THE ECLIPSE WITHOUT GLASSES IS ‘PERHAPS THE MOST IMPRESSIVE THING ANY PRESIDENT HAS EVER DONE

President Trump did something on Monday that you’re not supposed to do during a solar eclipse. He looked up without special glasses.
Trump had a pair of glasses, mind you. But he sauntered onto a White House balcony and glanced squinty-eyed at the sky, ignoring the warnings of doctors and scientists, before pulling his protective eyewear out of a pocket.
Was the president being reckless with his retinas? Setting a bad example for others? Hardly, according to Tucker Carlson.
“In a move that is not a complete surprise, he looked directly at the sun without any glasses,” Carlson marveled on his Fox News show, “perhaps the most impressive thing any president has ever done.”
Carlson delivered the line with a straight face, perhaps the most impressive thing any TV host has ever done.
Carlson was surely joking, but there is a lot of truth in his remark. He is absolutely right that Trump’s disregard of expert advice is unsurprising. We are talking about the man who once said, “I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/08/21/trump-looking-at-the-eclipse-without-glasses-is-perhaps-the-most-impressive-thing-any-president-has-ever-done-says-tucker-carlson/?utm_term=.f39763fc180d
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>>170418
Little late to the party Skippy. >>170349
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>>170440
Mines better. Sieg Heil.
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>>170418
He looks good there. He should stare at more cgi eclipses.

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http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2017/08/19/wreckage-uss-indianapolis-found-philippine-sea/583124001/

>"We've located the wreckage of the USS Indianapolis in Philippine Sea at 5500m below the sea."
>That tweet from entrepreneur and billionaire Paul Allen around 12:20 p.m. Saturday confirmed what many have been searching for since the ship was sunk on July 30, 1945.

>Allen, who is leading a 13-person team on his 250-foot research ship, the R/V Petrel, said the wreckage was found at a depth of more than 18,000 feet.
>The heavy cruiser, carrying 1,197 sailors and Marines, was torpedoed by a Japanese submarine while sailing back to the Philippines after delivering components for "Little Boy," the atomic bomb that helped end World War II. It took only 12 minutes to sink.
>While 900 crewmen made it through the initial sinking, only 316 survived to be rescued when help arrived five days later on Aug. 2, 1945. Many had died of exposure or thirst, drowned or were attacked by sharks.
>Families of those aboard the ship found out about the deaths of their loved ones just as the rest of the country was celebrating the conclusion of World War II.
>The latest break in the search for the wreckage came in July 2016, when the Naval History and Heritage Command Communication and Outreach Division reported that a sailor had confirmed that a tank landing ship, LST-779, had passed the Indianapolis 11 hours before the torpedo struck. That backed up the testimony of Captain Charles McVay III and was confirmed by deck logs.
>That finding narrowed the search to 600 square miles of open ocean
>“To be able to honor the brave men of the USS Indianapolis and their families through the discovery of a ship that played such a significant role in ending World War II is truly humbling,” Allen said in a statement. “As Americans, we all owe a debt of gratitude to the crew for their courage, persistence and sacrifice in the face of horrendous circumstances."
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>"While our search for the rest of the wreckage will continue, I hope everyone connected to this historic ship will feel some measure of closure at this discovery so long in coming.”

>Maria Eck Bullard, the daughter of now-deceased survivor Harold Eck, received the surprising news in a phone call Saturday morning. Bullard is the chair of the USS Indianapolis Second Watch Organization, focused on keeping the families and remaining survivors connected and remembering the legacy of those who died.
>Finding the ship was one of many of the survivors and their families' goals, she said.
>"It's their final resting place so its kind of sacred ground," Bullard said. "It has brought the relief of some closure, but I do think it’s also a very sensitive subject."
>She said she has not spoken with Allen yet, and she worried about all of the families who found out about the news from social media or news stories.
>Allen’s team is still surveying the site of the wreckage and plans to conduct a live tour of the wreckage in the next few weeks. The crew is working with the Navy and plans to honor the remaining 22 USS Indianapolis crew members and families of crew members.
>"Even in the worst defeats and disasters there is valor and sacrifice that deserves to never be forgotten," Sam Cox, director of the Naval History and Heritage Command, said in a statement. "They can serve as inspiration to current and future sailors enduring situations of mortal peril.
>There are also lessons learned, and in the case of the Indianapolis, lessons re-learned, that need to be preserved and passed on, so the same mistakes can be prevented, and lives saved."
>In March 2015, an Allen expedition team discovered the remains of the Japanese battleship Musashi, and this past March, his team found the Artigliere, a World War II destroyer.
>The shipwreck was the subject of the 2016 movie "USS Indianapolis: Men of Courage" staring Nicolas Cage.
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>>169912
>attacked by sharks
No disrespect to those who died, but I hate how the media has to mention sharks in every disaster at sea.

They don't mention the wild hogs whenever talking about mexican border-crossers, after all.
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>>169912
>"We've located the wreckage of the USS Indianapolis in Philippine Sea at 5500m below the sea."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9S41Kplsbs

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Recall some of the dire polling he faced as a candidate. More than 60 percent of voters didn’t think he was qualified to be president; not even 20 percent thought he had the temperament and personality to serve; more than half of Republicans said they weren’t satisfied with him as their nominee. On Election Day, 60 percent of the electorate said it didn’t like him.
By any historical standard, these were also politically catastrophic numbers, and yet, well, Trump is in the White House. In 2016, the numbers didn’t mean quite what we thought they did.
As narratives of collapse take shape around Trump’s presidency now, the campaign should at least serve as a cautionary tale. It may look like his base is crumbling — and maybe it is — or maybe we’re living through a new version of what happened last year.
Consider the newest round of NBC polling from the three states that put Trump over the top. In Michigan, his approval rating is 36 percent, and in both Pennsylvania and Wisconsin it’s 33 percent. This looks brutal and it feeds the perception that Trump’s base is abandoning him. But is it different from his standing in these states during the campaign?
In each state, his favorable rating is in the low to mid-30s, close to where it was during the campaign. Back then, this was taken as a sign Trump would fall short in the Rust Belt; instead, he became the first Republican since the 1980's to win these three states.
Similarly, there's polling now that shows Trump's approval rating slipping among his fellow Republicans. Are they abandoning him? Or is this just another version of what we saw last year when his negative rating among Republicans looked alarmingly high through Election Day — when they snapped back and voted for him at a nearly 90 percent clip.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/polls-show-trump-cratering-not-so-fast-n794711
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>>170840
The difference is that nobody believes the pro-trump Russian fake news anymore like they still did during the election. Now we know what they are doing to try to prop up Trump as legitimate. Hell, Trump's own son released emails from that meeting where the Russians describe themselves as pro-Trump. It's not a matter of dispute anymore.
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>>170857
Looks like you didn't get the memo. We have switched from Trump is Putin to Trump is Hitler.
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>((((polls)))

Any negative poll about Trump is fake news until proven otherwise

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Where can I find the pictures my dudes

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/23/danish-police-confirm-torso-found-copenhagen-journalist-kim-wall

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40922750
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up your ass, edgelord
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>>170804

found it

http://imgur.com/a/yNdAE
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>>170804
What, you want pics of the headless torso?

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Jacksonville Beach police used a Taser, a baton and four sets of handcuffs to arrest a man accused of punching a bouncer and walking out on his $235 bar tab on Sunday.

Facebook video of the takedown outside Surfer [the Bar] on 1st Street North is leading some beachgoers to question why the use of force was necessary in the first place, since Christopher Alan White did not appear combative when a Jacksonville Beach Police Department officer deployed the first Taser.

White pulled the prongs off the first Taser, seemingly unaffected.

“Stop doing that,” White can be heard saying in the video.

That comment led to a second Taser deployment from a second officer as well as an attempted headlock, from which White wriggled free.

“I’m not fighting,” said White as an officer beat his thigh with a baton.

White swatted at the officer during the beating.

A third officer deployed a third Taser, which brought White to the ground.

Jacksonville Beach resident Annsley Grantham said she’s disturbed about what led up to the first Taser being fired.

“He seemed pretty inebriated, so I don’t think it was necessary to tase him at all,” said Grantham.

The officer wrote in his report that he deployed that Taser because White refused to give him his hand to be cuffed.


https://twitter.com/jennaANjax/status/897551823048818689/video/1

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/jacksonville-beach-police-use-three-tasers-baton-4-handcuffs-to-arrest-bar-customer/592605284
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A taser is not a compliance device. Cops need this drilled into their heads.
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>>170801
They probably could have avoided all of that retardation with some pepper spray, christ at this rate I should become a cop to balance out the retards.
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>>170827
You don't even need pepper spray. In this case the man was drunk and not belligerent. You can talk a drunk person into almost anything. Police need to be trained better in subtlety and persuasion. And beyond that, there are certain holds and compliance inducing methods that don't rely on constant pain - for example, the one everyone knows, where your arm is bent behind your back - it gives a quick, sharp jab of pain, very good at keeping people under control, but you can keep that hold in place without causing any pain. There is no need for a taser, pepper spray, any of that. You might not remember this, but back in the day, I actually knew most of the cops around where I lived by name - and most of them knew most of the residents. Things went a lot smoother, because they knew what situations to expect. Nowadays they're jumpy because almost every situation is unique or at least involves unknown people. This is why it's important that common sense is instilled during their training - it's possible to induce compliance without violence or anything more than the threat of pain. In fact, there's an entire fucking martial art dedicated to this purpose - aikido. In my mind, there needs to be a reevaluation of the purpose of law enforcement - is it to keep people safe, or keep them disciplined and controlled? I'm not saying cops should be disarmed. But their core philosophy needs some revising.

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UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Two North Korean shipments to a Syrian government agency responsible for the country's chemical weapons program were intercepted in the past six months, according to a confidential United Nations report on North Korea sanctions violations.

The report by a panel of independent U.N. experts, which was submitted to the U.N. Security Council earlier this month and seen by Reuters on Monday, gave no details on when or where the interdictions occurred or what the shipments contained.

"The panel is investigating reported prohibited chemical, ballistic missile and conventional arms cooperation between Syria and the DPRK (North Korea)," the experts wrote in the 37-page report.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-syria-un-idUSKCN1B12G2
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>>170619
Cool
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>>170619
le fake news
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>>170652
reuters so unpredictable

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>School acquaintances described him as an awkward loner who struggled with social interactions.

>"I can't even think of a single friend he had, to be perfectly honest," said one former classmate at Memorial High School, where he was known as "Ace" for his initials.

>During their senior year of high school, the former classmate said, Schneck wrote a "manifesto" dedicated to some of the school's popular girls, decrying how their boyfriends treated them and saying he could have done better.

>After high school graduation in 2010, the two lost touch and Schneck's classmate didn't hear news of him again until charges were filed against him several years ago.

>"None of this is surprising," the former classmate said. "He seems a bit disconnected from reality."

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The left is literally turning into ISIS
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>the Virgin manifesto
Nice
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>>170565

>Schneck wrote a "manifesto" dedicated to some of the school's popular girls, decrying how their boyfriends treated them and saying he could have done better

BETA UPRISING

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>>170544
>Opinion

Either way she is doing what needs to be done. School choice and charter schools are the way to go. They are more successful than failing public schools. Education reform needs to happen and the NEA needs to be banned.
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>>170544
>Blastingnews opinion trash that literally says if kids arent all dragged down to the least common denominator then it isnt fair
Why not post the article? My favorite part was when they took time out of whining about "neoliberalism" to talk about baby trayvon getting MURDERED (in bold) by a conservative think tank that supported stand your ground law
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Stop posting opinion pieces, you fucking faggot.

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At least one person has died and another has been injured after a car was driven into two bus shelters in Marseille.
ONE DEAD AFTER CAR HITS BUS SHELTERS IN MARSEILLE
DRIVER ARRESTED AFTER VEHICLE DRIVEN INTO TWO BUS SHELTERS IN SOUTHERN FRENCH CITY, POLICE SAY
A CAR HAS CRASHED INTO TWO BUS SHELTERS IN MARSEILLE. PHOTOGRAPH: GUARDIAN GRAPHICS FOR THE GUARDIAN
French police said the car’s driver drove on to the pavement in the Croix-Rouge area north of the city at about 8.15am, hitting and injuring one person.
An hour later, the same vehicle crashed into a second bus shelter in the Valentine arrondissement, killing one person.
The car’s driver has been arrested and police and soldiers were at the scene.
Officers spotted the vehicle in the Vieux Port area of the city and arrested the driver, reportedly a 35-year-old male known to the police for “acts of minor delinquency”.
Police advised locals and tourists to keep away from the port area.

http://archive.is/DS9wH
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>not a single mention of muslims
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>>170183
Coulters law. If the liberal media don't mention the race of the attacker then it's 100% guaranteed it was a Muslim.
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>>170183
Abdul Hamargan, a known white nationalist

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WASHINGTON — The Trump administration’s own actions are triggering double-digit premium increases on individual health insurance policies purchased by many consumers, a nonpartisan study has found.

>The analysis released Thursday by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that mixed signals from President Donald Trump have created uncertainty “far outside the norm,” leading insurers to seek higher premium increases for 2018 than would otherwise have been the case.

>The report comes with Republicans in Congress unable to deliver on their promise to repeal and replace the Obama-era Affordable Care Act. Trump, meanwhile, insists lawmakers try again. The president says “Obamacare” is collapsing, but he’s also threatened to give it a shove by stopping billions of dollars in payments to insurers. Some leading Republicans are considering fallback measures to stabilize markets.

>Researchers from the Kaiser foundation looked at proposed premiums for a benchmark silver plan across major metropolitan areas in 20 states and Washington, D.C. Overall, they found that 15 of those cities will see increases of 10 percent or more next year.

>The highest: a 49 percent jump in Wilmington, Delaware. The only decline: a 5 percent reduction in Providence, Rhode Island.

>About 10 million people who buy policies through HealthCare.gov and state-run markets are potentially affected, as well as another 5 million to 7 million who purchase individual policies on their own.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/trump-administrations-actions-raise-health-insurance-premiums-study-says/

study:
http://files.kff.org/attachment/Issue-Brief-An-Early-Look-at-2018-Premium-Changes-and-Insurer-Participation-on-ACA-Exchanges
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>Consumers in the government-sponsored markets can dodge the hit with the help of tax credits that most of them qualify for to help pay premiums. But off-marketplace customers pay full freight, and they face a second consecutive year of steep increases. Many are self-employed business owners.

>The report also found that insurer participation in the ACA markets will be lower than at any time since “Obamacare” opened for business in 2014. The average: 4.6 insurers in the states studied, down from 5.7 insurers this year. In many cases insurers do not sell plans in every community in a state.

>The researchers analyzed publicly available filings through which insurers justify their proposed premiums to state regulators. To be sure, insurers continue to struggle with sicker-than-expected customers and disappointing enrollment. And an ACA tax on the industry is expected to add 2 to 3 percentage points to premiums next year.

>But on top of that, the researchers found the mixed signals from the administration account for some of the higher charges. Those could increase before enrollment starts Nov. 1.

>“The vast majority of companies in states with detailed rate filings have included some language around the uncertainty, so it is likely that more companies will revise their premiums to reflect uncertainty in the absence of clear answers from Congress or the administration,” the report said. Once premiums are set, they’re generally in place for a whole year.

>Insurers who assumed that Trump will make good on his threat to stop billions in payments to subsidize copays and deductibles requested additional premium increases ranging from 2 percent to 23 percent, the report found.

>Insurers who assumed the IRS under Trump will not enforce unpopular fines on people who remain uninsured requested additional premium increases ranging from 1.2 percent to 20 percent.
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>“In many cases that means insurers are adding double-digit premium increases on top of what they otherwise would have requested,” said Cynthia Cox, a co-author of the Kaiser report. “In many cases, what we are seeing is an additional increase due to the political uncertainty.”

>That doesn’t sound like what Trump promised when he assumed the presidency.

>In a Washington Post interview ahead of his inauguration, Trump said, “We’re going to have insurance for everybody.”

>“There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it,” he added. “That’s not going to happen with us.”

>People covered under Obama’s law “can expect to have great health care,” Trump said at the time. “It will be in a much simplified form. Much less expensive and much better.”

>But the White House never produced the health care proposal Trump promised. And the GOP bills in Congress would have left millions more uninsured, a sobering side-effect that contributed to their political undoing.

>The Trump administration sidestepped questions about its own role raised by the Kaiser study.

>Spokeswoman Alleigh Marre said rising premiums and dwindling choices predate Trump.

>“The Trump administration is committed to repealing and replacing Obamacare and will always be focused on putting patients, families, and doctors, not Washington, in charge of health care,” Marre said in a statement.

>The ongoing political turmoil for people who buy individual health insurance stands in sharp contrast to relative calm and stability for the majority of Americans insured through workplace plans. The cost of employer-sponsored coverage is expected to rise around 5 or 6 percent next year, benefits consultants say.
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So congress refusing to pass a repeal and replace law, means America will have much higher insurance premiums because of the Obama care failure...and this is all Trump's fault? Seriously the amount of reaching that is going now days.

http://abc11.com/politics/the-latest-protesters-topple-durham-confederate-statue/2308015/

>DURHAM, North Carolina (WTVD) --
Protesters in Durham rushed and toppled a Confederate statue outside the courthouse on Monday evening.

>The monument of a Confederate soldier holding a rifle was erected in 1924 and inscribed on it are the words "in memory of the boys who wore the gray."

>Later Monday, Gov. Roy Cooper tweeted reaction, saying, "the racism and deadly violence in Charlottesville is unacceptable but there is a better way to remove these monuments."

>The crowd was small in numbers but steadily grew to more than 100.

>As the crowd became more animated, several protesters approached the monument, climbing it and attaching a yellow nylon rope around it. The protesters then pulled until the soldier came crashing to the ground.

>Seconds after the monument fell, protesters began kicking the crumpled bronze monument.

>"I was a little bit shocked people could come here and come together like that," said Isaiah Wallace.

>Wallace said he watched as others toppled the statue. He hopes other Confederate symbols elsewhere will follow.

>"I feel like this is going to send shockwaves through the country and hopefully they can bring down other racist symbols," he said.

>The Durham protest was in response to a white nationalist rally held in Charlottesville, Virginia, during the weekend.

>ABC11 spoke to Durham Mayor Bill Bell for reaction.

>"I'm not surprised seeing what's gone on in this country," Bell said Monday night.
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>Because the statue was on county property, Bell would not comment on any possible charges against the protesters for the vandalism.

>Shortly after 9:30 p.m., Durham Police issued a response to the protests.

>"The DPD is aware that a Confederate monument was toppled at the old Durham County courthouse. Because this incident occurred on county property, where county law enforcement officials were staffed, no arrests were made by DPD officers," the department said in a statement."

>Police said the Durham County Sheriff's Office is the agency that has jurisdiction over all county buildings and landmarks.

>"When monitoring such incidents, the Sheriff's Office is the decision-making agency regarding law enforcement response on matters concerning county property," DPD explained.

>Shortly before 12:30 a.m. Tuesday, Durham County issued an innocuous statement regarding the recent events:

>"Our elected officials and senior staff understand the unrest in our nation and community, particularly following the senseless acts that took place in Charlottesville, VA. We share the sentiments of many communities around the nation that admonish hate and acts of violence as we believe civility is necessary in our every action and response. Governmental agencies dedicated to public safety will continue to work collectively to ensure Durham remains a community of excellence where all of our residents can live peacefully, grow and thrive."

>Protesters then moved on to walk down to Roxboro Street at Main Street, where the blocked the intersection.

>The protesters later marched to the site of the new Durham Police headquarters, which is under construction.

>Durham Police remained close by but kept their distance from the protesters.

>The protest is now over but there is a police presence outside of the courthouse.
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Headline should read: Police Allow Mob of Vandals Free Reign Over City
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These Commies are just like ISIS

http://abcnews.go.com/US/car-hits-crowd-protesters-white-nationalist-rally-virginia/story?id=49179590
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>>167402
>http://abcnews.go.com/US/car-hits-crowd-protesters-white-nationalist-rally-virginia/story?id=49179590

What a shock, bet it was a blacklivesmatter terrorist.

The left only speaks the language of violence.
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>>167402
Serves them right for going there to start shit.
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>>167402
You make it sound like it was an accident. This dude rammed into a group of people protesting the white supremacist rally intentionally.

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Tony Petros has seen a lot as a cyclist and former Newport Beach city councilman.

But he’s not likely to forget a recent Wednesday evening ride on Pacific Coast Highway by Mariner’s Mile, when a pickup truck jumped from the leftmost lane and toward his bicycle.

“Young kids started screaming (‘butt dart’) at me,” Petros said. “They kept doing it, and it wasn’t funny.”

The “butt dart” stunt — an act of pointing a finger gun, making a shooting noise and yelling at cyclists — has gained traction recently on social media. As silly as the act may seem, Orange County cyclists say it has them intimidated.

Now, a law firm is considering filing a harassment suit on behalf of several affected cyclists against Chad Towersey, the man who started it all.

“What we want is for (Towersey) to denounce this,” said Gven Sariol, a cycling safety advocate at the Sariol Legal firm in Santa Ana.

The act isn’t illegal, law enforcement officials say, but cyclists are concerned that the new fad in the county’s beach communities could make an already dangerous situation worse.

From 2015 to 2016, about 200 traffic collisions resulted in cyclist injuries in Newport Beach, according to Newport Beach police spokeswoman Jennifer Manzella. A dozen cyclists died in traffic accidents in Orange County in 2016.

“It’s getting out of hand,” said former Huntington Beach resident Javier Pedroza, 19, who was the target of a “butt dart” stunt.

Towersey said he’s actually performing the stunt, and recording it, as a way to promote safe bicycling: “Please ride safe and obey the rules of the road — That is all we ask,” he wrote in a caption for an Instagram post.

He declined to comment further.

Towersey operates the website ocinstanews, which has about 9,000 followers on Instagram.
http://www.ocregister.com/2017/08/21/an-orange-county-social-media-stunt-has-bicyclists-on-edge/
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He calls himself “a home grown California kid in a grown man’s body delivering real news with real problems,” although his videos mostly document his antics.

He has been doing “butt dart” stunts at least since May, and some of his followers have joined him.

There are no state or local regulations against the act. Law requires that drivers must leave at least three feet of space as they pass cyclists, but there is no other regulation against drivers or pedestrians harassing cyclists.

California Highway Patrol officer Josh Nelson said it’s difficult to cite someone simply for yelling.

“Everyone would be arrested,” Nelson said.

But he also emphasized that the CHP’s “Share the Road” campaign highlights a need for drivers to understand that many roads are to be shared between drivers and cyclists.

Manzella, on Wednesday, said the Newport Beach Police Department has not fielded any criminal reports on “butt dart.” She also said, as far as she knows, no one has filed a complainant about the stunts.

She said it would be hard to cite or prosecute someone for the stunts.

“There are very specific violations of a law that has to take place in order for a criminal report,” she said. “There are a lot of acts that may fall short of that.”

Manzella urged those who witness or are targets of the stunts to call the police nonetheless.

“We can send officers to intervene before it escalates,” she said.

But regardless of the legalities, the act is upsetting many cyclists.

In Pedroza’s case, a car jumped in front of him while he was bicycling a couple of weeks ago. Riders in the car yelled at Pedroza, and he later saw a video of the incident on the ocinstanews Instagram page.

“How does that even make sense?” he said.
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Around two months ago, Rick Van Tuyl was riding a tandem bike in Laguna Beach with a rider who is blind when an Audi pulled up next to him. He said those in the car yelled “butt dart” and shouted obscenities. Despite little traffic, the car drove side-by-side with van Tuyl’s bicycle for miles, he said.

“I didn’t know what would happen if kids ran out,” the 53-year-old Orange resident said.

Reducing the mortgage interest deduction would send earthquakes through the real estate industry.

>A tax break popular with homeowners and the real estate industry could take a hit as Republicans look for ways to pay for their tax reform plan.

>Despite promises from the Trump administration in April that it would “protect the homeownership … deductions,” multiple sources tracking tax reform said that the cap on the mortgage interest deduction — currently set at the interest on up to $1 million of mortgage debt — could be lowered in tax reform.

>That would be a slap in the face to an industry that strongly supported President Donald Trump during his presidential bid: He overwhelmingly won a straw poll by the National Association of Realtors during its annual meeting last year.

>The topic came up during a White House roundtable with real estate industry representatives on Monday. National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn, a key decision-maker on tax reform, and his lead deputy on tax reform, Shahira Knight, led the meeting. Cohn previously told members of Congress that almost everything, including changes to the mortgage interest deduction, would be on the table.

>“They’re willing to ruffle some feathers,” said one attendee of Monday’s meeting. “Everything was on the table,” including capping the deduction that the Trump administration has said it would preserve.

>No final decision has been made yet, as Republicans work during Washington’s sleepy days of August to craft a reform plan that would be politically palatable and meet the criteria for the budgetary maneuver they plan to use to bypass Democrats who could hold up a bill in the Senate. But lowering the cap on the mortgage interest deduction would help offset tax cuts for individuals and businesses.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/04/trump-homeowner-tax-benefit-241328
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>“I’ve seen proposals that drop it to $500,000,” said Rohit Kumar, lead on PricewaterhouseCoopers’ Washington tax policy team and a former senior staffer to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, one of the six congressional and administration leaders negotiating tax reform.

>After tabling a 20 percent business tax on imported goods and services, known as border adjustability, Republicans need ways to pay for tax cuts so they can minimize the amount those cuts would add to the deficit. The Tax Foundation, a tax policy think tank, estimates that after factoring in negative economic consequences, $308 billion could be saved over the 10-year budget window Republicans are working with by lowering the mortgage deduction.

>Like many issues in tax reform, the mortgage interest deduction divides more along parochial than ideological lines. Conservatives and progressives alike criticize the deduction as inefficient and more useful for wealthy taxpayers than the working class it’s supposed to help put in homes. But its popularity with homeowners in more expensive areas and with the real estate industry have helped it weather past attempts to cut or eliminate it.

>“There’s not a lot of conservative support for the mortgage interest deduction,” said Ryan Ellis, a conservative tax lobbyist.

>One example: In February, Mark Calabria, then a financial regulatory expert with the libertarian CATO Institute and now Vice President Mike Pence’s top economic adviser, and progressive housing activist Diane Yentel penned an op-ed in favor of reducing the mortgage deduction.

>Conservative support for cutting the deduction, combined with smoke signals out of the White House that a reduction could be a part of a broader tax reform package, has the real estate and building industries concerned.
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>“[L]imiting the mortgage interest deduction amounts to a de facto tax increase on current or future homeowners while putting homeownership further out of reach for prospective buyers,” said National Association of Realtors President William Brown in a statement. “We would have strong objections over any effort to further cap or limit the deductibility of mortgage interest.”

>Brown added that he hadn’t seen a sure signal that capping mortgage interest would definitely be in a tax reform proposal, though a $500,000 cap was brought up as an option at the White House, according to those who attended the meeting.

>Another part of the calculus for the Trump administration and congressional conservatives: Use of the deduction could dramatically drop if Republicans push through the doubling of the standard deduction that individuals can take instead of itemizing different tax write-offs.

>Reducing the mortgage interest deduction "gets a little tricky because it depends on what else you’re doing on the individual side,” said Kumar, who added that it’s only on the table if Republicans follow through on their goal of doubling the standard deduction.

>By some estimates, doubling the standard deduction could lower by 90 percent the use of the mortgage interest deduction by middle-class Americans, eroding much of the argument for keeping it.

>That’s made the Republican proposal to double the standard deduction a proxy battle over the mortgage benefit. Even though the administration signaled it would keep the mortgage interest deduction in the tax code when Cohn and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin announced Trump’s tax goals this past spring, the National Association of Realtors blasted the inclusion of doubling the standard deductions in those goals.

>House Speaker Paul Ryan reiterated doubling of the standard deduction as a goal in tax reform during a meeting with conservative groups on July 28.
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>“By doubling the standard deduction and repealing the state and local tax deduction, [Trump’s] plan would effectively nullify the current tax benefits of owning a home for the vast majority of tax filers,” NAR said in a statement tied to the release of Trump’s tax goals.

>Still, the industry hopes for a near-literal Trump card in the form of the president and his family's deep ties to the real estate industry.

>“I’m not so sure it’s going to translate into legislative language,” said one lobbyist tracking the issue, citing Trump’s real estate business. The same lobbyist anticipated a “broad-based campaign” in opposition to any reduction in mortgage interest this fall if the proposal stays in the tax reform conversation.

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