What newbuild steam locomotives?

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Alsace and Lorraine Railways S16

Pacific with Caprotti valve gear

>>1088286
Quite a big'un she is, I like it.

But isn't Alsace Lorraine one region?

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Mason 0-6-6T

Designed by a renowned architect.

>>1088288
When was this scrapped?

Quite the interesting design it had going for it.

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>>1088280

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>>1088313
I definitely know about the T1 project indeed.

M-1 would be an interesting comeback, though it's a steam turbine locomotive....

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>>1088476
This?

To me it looks weird.

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For me it'd be the union Pacific 4884 big boy, mainly for how stupidly massive it was

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>>1088575
They're some in preservation I know.

I see what you mean though.

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>>1088575
>>1088594

not only in preservation, but restoration.
Union Pacific's heritage division (the one that runs the 844) has acquired big boy 4014 and has been restoring it to operational condition.
It should be running again in 2019

https://www.up.com/aboutup/community/inside_track/steam-update-5-31-2017.htm

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some form of Triplex

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>>1088604
I heard that about the restoration of a Big Boy.

However I don't think a new GWR may not be made.

>Rough riding due to short wheelbase

>>1088610
Impressive locomotive here.

Where did it run?

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>>1088618
on the Erie Railroad

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>>1088594
>>1088604
This pleases me greatly. If only more trainbros could be brought back to life

>>1088620
Alright, thanks.

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>>1088622
Hell yeah!

Also, this is another locomotive I'd like to see running when it is finished.

>>1088499

Of course it looks weird. It's arranged backwards, and has no condensor which would help reduce steam turbine back pressure.

Doing it over, I would have tried a Mallett-Garrett single frame with a condensor up front over an elongated coal bunker nose. Say 4-8-84-4-8-8-4 or so.

>>1088669
I meant by the bodywork...

>>1088287
They were desperate Regions but now (since 2016) form part of the Grand Est Region. During German ownership of parts of that area, the occupied area was called Alsace-Lorraine

>>1088982
I see, thanks for the info.

>>1088290

They were all scrapped around WWI

>>1089035
Ah, well that's a shame anyway.

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>>1088982
>>1088999
Not exactly. To make it short :

In 1871, France got his ass kicked by Prussia and it's allies (mostly because of incompetent officers and cowards poltics, but it's another story).

As a result, the newly formed Reich take as a reward a big chunk of France's territory : the departments of Moselle and the two department of Haut-Rhin and Bas-Rhin, Alsace being Haut-Rhin and Bas-Rhin together.

It was most commonly as "Alsace-Lorraine".

For the railways in Alsace-Lorraine, Germany create of new administration, know as the "Kaiserliche Generaldirektion der Eisenbahnen in Elsaß-Lothringen", shortened to "EL" (in english : General Directorate of the Imperial Railways in Alsace-Lorraine).

Fast forward to 1918, Germany lose the war, France wins and get his territories back, with
The EL railways. In 1919, the "Administration des chemins de fer d'Alsace et de Lorraine" (Alsace and Lorraine Railways ) is created. Basically, the old EL railways, but under french administration.

At those times, iIt was big private railways companies that owned the lines. They were all fused together, including the AL railways, in 1937 to form the new SNCF (French National Railways).

I'm not sure if i explained correctly, without going wikipedia-wall-of-text-style. And sorry for broken english.

For the S16 (S stand for "Schnellzuglokomotiven" or "locomtives for fast train", they were built in 1932, as prototypes, number 1401 and 1402.

Both were stolen during WW2 by Germany. 1401 came back to France after the war, but was scrapped in 1947 because it was badly damaged. 1402 never came back, and was scrapped in Germany in 1953.

>>1089100
It's okay, at least you were able to explain the history.

>>1089100
There are several errors in your text and the political commentary is unwelcome.

My post was about the non-rail boundary changes of France around Alsace and Lorraine. Appreciate the rail commentary though.

>>1088622
I feel sorry for you US steam enthusiasts - you've got fuck all running except 611.

We're swimming in fucking locos over here in the UK while yours are all just kinda sitting there - rusting. It's a shame really, I'm not even a fan of US steam but the fact they're just sitting there upsets me.

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>>1089263
I'm sure we have our own locomotives rusting somewhere.

It's true what you said, we are INDEED fucking swimming in locomotives.

But a few years ago the Kent And East Sussex Railway had picked up a GWR 42XX (4253) literally rusted as fuck.

Which as of now is undergoing restoration.

>>1089270
UK preservationists will rebuild an entire loco from new parts and call it preserved; literally as long the frames are 50% original. That's not to say it's a bad thing, but a lot of well-gone locos are re-invented as Triggers Broom.

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>>1089287
Alright then.

Yet obviously finding original parts will be costly and difficult so new parts will have to do.

Case would be if Gazelle here would be restored.

Yet I'd would not support it's restoration into working order.

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Obligatory

>>1089793
god no, anything but the E2, they were seriously terrible locomotives to operate. there's a reason they only built 10

>>1089287
the moment a locomotive enters its first overhaul in active service it can longer be classed as "original"

case in point, there were LNER A3s fitted with A4 boilers downrated to 225 psi (which a certain preserved example had until it was overhauled)

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>>1089793
The SECR R/R1 is a better locomotive IMO.

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>>1088280
forget scrapped locomotives, let's build one that was proposed but never built. like the Gresley Mountain

>>1089800
Alright then.

But there is weight restrictions to worry about though.

What about a Milwaukee Road F7 Hudson or Class A atlantic? the US doesn't have enough preserved streamline steam, IMO.

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>>1089801
the weight would have been spread out over more axles so it would still have the same axle loading as a Peppercorn A1

But if that doesn't suit you there was a 4-8-4 versions designed as an alternative by Peppercorn

>>1089803
Go for it.

>>1089805
I see, I don't mind either of them to be honest.

There was also a proposed 2-10-2 that was going to be built for the GCR by Baldwin Locomotive Works, but WWI got in the way

>>1089810
Yeah, I can see how WW1 would get in the way.

With all the unrestricted submarine warfare.

>>1089811
someone did some serious kitbashing of a Bachmann 2-10-2 into the GCR Baldwin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6z-9lb0BHo

>>1089813
Not bad.

>>1088288

Mason had some really bizarre wheel arrangments, including 2-6-4T's, 2-8-6T's and even 2-10-6T's. Photos are very hard to find.

>>1088610
>>1088620

>top speed 7mph

bitch pls

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>>1089921
The 2-6-4 wheel arrangement is not uncommon.

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>>1089263
We have UP 844 and SP 4449 running as well too

>>1089932

It is in the U.S

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>>1089953
Here in the UK a few locomotives have used it.

This for another example.

>>1089270
Saddest one is that LMS Crab that had its driving wheels knicked and is now completely dismantled, I fear that will never be fixed.

desu I'd rather we restored all the locos from Barry first before building new ones.

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Also if I've got to pick a new build itd be sweet to get an LNER Z class engine

>>1090040
That's a shame to be honest.

>>1090042
Judging by the size of Z Class I assume it's a shunter, yes?

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What about the GER class G53 later reclassified as LNER J70 steam tram built by James Holden for the Wisbech and Upwell Tramway this locomotive deserves a new build as Toby in Thomas the Tank Engine is one of these classes.

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>>1091057
I don't see why not.

However the Avon Valley Railway has a replica of Toby, yet judging by the diesel that's behind I don't think it can move on it's own power.

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>>1088280

Gimme my 30s Streamliners back

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>>1089263
>>1089270

>tfw no Woodham Bros. to save these practically living, breathing relics of our proud history from the cutter's torch

>>1091125
Such a sleek looking locomotive indeed.

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>>1091129
The preservationists bought the locomotives from Barry Scrapyard.

The Didcot Railway Centre have a GWR 5205 Class locomotive put on display in Barry Scrapyard condition to serve as a lasting reminder of what Barry was like and the challenges the preservation movements faced at the time.

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my people gwr is the best cmon

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colonel stephens engines are criminally under-represented in preservation
i'd like to see a Hesperus replica desu

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>>1091370
Hellz ya dood!

I'd love to see a working new build of a GWR Dean Single (3031 Achilles Class).

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>>1091372
That locomotive more looks like an Isle Of Man locomotive.

Colonel Stephens got his locomotives and rolling stock second hand.

The ex London South Western Railway Ilfracombe Goods is what kind of locomotives that would of ran on Colonel Stephens's railways.

The Kent And East Sussex Railway and the Shropshire And Montgomeryshire Light Railway were the two they ran on.

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>>1091510
actually Hesperus was on one of Stephens' railways- the Weston, Clevedon & Portishead Raiway in Somerset
it was so spectacularly shit that reading pretty much anything about it is an experience
for example, this is one of Stephens' experiments in alternative motive power on the line

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>>1091572
Ah, I probably forgot about it.

I do remember the Kent And East Sussex Railway having an 0-6-0 saddle tank called Hesperus.

>>1091597
yeahh, Stephens had like a Trinity of Hesperuses (Hesperii?) on his railways- those quite obviously being the K&ESR, WC&P and S&MR ones- haven't really looked into which one was built first tho

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>>1091701
That I can see.

Yet both of the KE&SR and WC&PR Hesperii were formerly GWR locomotives.

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>>1089796
But muh Thomas...

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>>1093036
Anon is right.

The E2 really is overrated.

Besides, you should live with this kind of Thomas and like it.

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Anything by Andre Chapelon, but this one is my favourite. From a very mediocre 4-6-2, rebuilt into "best power/weight ratio of any conventional steam loco" 4-8-0.

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The ACE-3000
Technically not extinct cause it never became a reality. I think this would've been cool to see if a prototype had actually been built.

>>1093140
It doesn't look bad at all.

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>>1093142
Judging from the design this locomotive would be somewhere in North America?

This gets me thinking of the Southern Railway's experimental articulated 0-6-0+0-6-0 steam locomotive called Leader.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_Leader_class

Could a steam engine run on bamboo?

>>1093450
Probably, if it's combustable?

>>1093527
Not sure the calorific value versus the dimensions required to sustain suitable heat generation to be worthwhile. So what you could you likely wouldn't. The effort to prepare the fuel would be excessive.

>>1093665
I see.

Nuclear steam-turbine long-haul cruiser: for NY-SF runs.
Would probably need the mother of all water tenders...

>>1094155

Why? Just bring along a condensor, you'll need it to improve steam turbine performance anyways.

>>1088610
I might've read on this one before, but between keeping steam in all those cylinders, and the rigid length of that frame, I'm sure they were uneconomical in most any circumstances.

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>>1093183
Bulleid was a genius. There is a plan to rebuild one of the rebuilt Merchant Navies with the streamlining and everthing. Crazy, and it will be a pig to maintain, but he designed beeeeyoooootiful locomotives.

http://www.35011gsn.co.uk/

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>>1097916
He wasn't really.

The Leader Class locomotive he built was a waste of time.

>>1097941

Implementation had a few oddities, but some good ideas too. The chain drive was weird though.

>>1098074
The Leader class was a hot and stuffy locomotive to work on and then was scrapped in 1951.

>>1088280
How about nuclear steam locomotives that reoease cooling steam?

>>1098116
These existed, are they even safe?

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This

>>1098268
Ah, hello again.

>>1098131
They're safe as long as you don't mind getting radiation related sickness or getting killed

>>1098576
In that case no it's totally unsafe.

>>1098116

steam release? hell no. but with condensors it's ok. see X-12 design, which is doable though a highly irregular liquid fuel reactor design with 168 tons of rad shield/crash armor.

>>1098724
Well, this thread is about steam loco, not nuclear loco

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>>1088280
Victorian Railways S class 3 cylinder 4-6-2

>>1099266
Quite the locomotive this is.

Also, what's the reason for the name is paticular S Class 3 has?

>>1099378
You're not reading it right. It's the S class, which was a 3 cylinder 4-6-2 Pacific.
'Twas a great loco, designed specifically for one interstate express route. Sadly all 4 locos of the S class were scrapped just as the first mainline diesel locos were being introduced. Allegedly they were all scrapped quickly because they were showing up the shiny new diesels, as it took two diesel locos to replace one S class on its express service without losing time.

>>1099947
Ah...Sorry..I see now.

>>1097941
Genius sometimes goes awry. Not everything Edison or Brunel tried worked.

>>1100888
True, but this sure as hell didn't work.