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>“The thing about white cisgendered men is that they do

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>“The thing about white cisgendered men is that they don't want to listen to me,” Crutchfield says.


http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/9620-pull-the-thread-and-unravel-me-waxahatchees-katie-crutchfield/

Thoughts?
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>>54958274
I'm a cis white man so I'm not gonna bother reading this shit
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>>54958274
shes pretty
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>>54958321
that's one painfully low standard you've got the bud
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>>54958274
Iam straight white dude and I like her music
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I'm white, cisgender, and I think that her music is boring, so I guess she's right.
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>>54958274

I fucking love her music and lyrics despite her kinda ridiculous use of these stupid terms, and I'm a regular straight white male.
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>>54958393
>>54958421

she's not talking about the music.
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Another white cishet male checking in here, and she's 100% right.
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literally who cares
threads that link to p4k should be an auto-ban
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>>54958274
Really enjoyed the section about how audiences don't "understand" her music and bitching about people trying to have fun at her shows.

Also
>"Don't put me in a box,” she says, with a twinge of defiance. “You don't know what I can do.”"

If she could do anything she wouldn't play such banal music
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>>54958274
She's beautiful
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So a guy was dancing wildly and yelling that he loved her and she was hot at a show, so she stopped the show and shamed him? What kind of "punk" musician is she? I've seen musicians less upset about audience members throwing bottles at them.
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i really hope that in the future we look back at american feminism of this era like how we look at racism now
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>>54958446
whoosh
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why is she so defensive
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>>54958274
she, like Lauryn Hill, doesn't want me to listen to her music. so i won't
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>>54958736
Cops killing unarmed women?
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>>54958502
this
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>>54958274
>tfw cis non-white male and Cerulean Salt was a pretty good album
She just likes the non-white males and white fagets, leave her alone y'all kids.
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>>54958274
literally who
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>tfw "punk" has become a hypersensitive PC shitfest
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>waxahatchee

she literally was just driving one day and saw a sign for some creek and decided that was her super indie unique band name.
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>>54958502
autoban? yes pls
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>>54958730
She's not a punk musician.
She's tumblrcore/post-avant privcore.
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literally who.jpg
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>>54958274
cisgendered is just a word the lgbt community uses to refer to normal people
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I have no idea how she has any semblance of popularity, Her music is as derivative as one can get
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>>54958829

If we're talking about a 6'5, 300 pound amazon monster woman attacking an officer and getting shot and killed, then yes.
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>>54958380
He said "pretty", not "smoking hot"
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It's hard to imagine a 26 year old man getting upset and calling out a teenage girl in the audience for yelling at him that he's hot and she loves him.
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>>54958970
it's a word most people use to refer to those whose gender is the same gender they were assigned at birth.

good job at taking things out of context OP
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>>54958274
Ill never hear about this woman ever again
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>>54959065
>those whose gender is the same gender they were assigned at birth.
Otherwise known as normal people
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This cunt is just trying to pull a Meredith Graves to get publicity for her band. Ignore her and she'll go away.
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>>54958911
Ruban Nielson would hate this shit
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Why does she think she deserves an audience just for showing up?

Tumblrcore tards are just the most pampered, useless shit heads ever in existence.
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>>54959071
>mfw she's your distant cousin

>>54959021
It's just being too uptight and not getting enough dick, imo.
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>>54959065

>cisgendered
>a word most people use

Get the fuck out.
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>>54959123
ok yourself
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>>54959140
you are absolute shit at reading comprehension. did you even go to school for any years of your life?
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>>54959129

>Getting called out by family for being a cunt

Lol
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>>54959169

>it's a word most people use to refer to those whose gender is the same gender they were assigned at birth.

You can read your own post back to yourself, dipshit.
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>>54958881
I'm a brown man, and I love white women.

I guess I'm obligated to check their music out now.
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>>54959129
I kind of get a womans view that they wanna be more than a cat called sex object
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Heard one of her songs and thought it was decent. Not even going to bother listening to her now.
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>>54959015
Well she isn't pretty, so you're both stupid.
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" “But I'm learning the best ways to approach situations like that with the most sustainable result. I want to yell at this kid over the mic, but if I do he’s not going to take anything away from it except for ‘Waxahatchee is an evil bitch.’ And that's going to be on the Internet tomorrow, which is fine—I don't care if people call me an evil bitch. But I want the kid to walk away and be like, ‘That made her and all these people feel bad, and I shouldn't do that.’”

not seeing a problem here, other than her saying "white cisgendered men."

All you fags acting like you're punk and she's not punk; fuck off, you nerds just walk around wearing a Nails shirt thinking you're hot shit - quit dicking around acting like anyone at all cares whether something peddled by p4k is punk or not.
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>>54959201
yes, as in when most people use this word they are referring >to those whose gender is the same gender they were assigned at birth.

no need to be so buttblasted
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>>54959250
ok
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>When I hear her give friendly advice to a peer—Perfect Pussy’s Meredith Graves

oh
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>>54958274
>>“The thing about white cisgendered men is that they don't want to listen to me,” Crutchfield says.

This is a problem for a lot of women (and even men of color). If you don't think this is a problem: go fuck yourself in front of the mirror for a long while.

/thread
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>>54959261
he read your post correctly. you wrote it poorly.
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>>54959250
The only real punk in the American indie scene is Ruban Nielson and he isnt even an American

Currently he is pretending to be a hippie to be accepted by American fuckheads but deep down he is a real punk who would have died on stage falling off a speaker rig for the sake of inciting something real in people
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Have you ever been to a rock show? There are always lots of girls dancing wildly and yelling things like "you're hot" and "I love you" at the lead singer.

>>54959250

I don't think I'm punk, but it's pretty lame for a self proclaimed punk musician to be upset at someone for having fun at her show.
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>and more emotionally intelligent than any 26-year-old has any right to be.

Jesus Christ.
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>>54959250
Get out of here waxahatchee. This board is not a "safe space".
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>>54958914
you are 100% wrong hahahaha
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>>54959296
nah he was just trying to tell someone off on the internet
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>>54959250

No she sounds like a holier than thou cunt. Do you not think every artist has to deal with shit heads at their shows? She's practically begging for some fucking hashtag to be made about her ordeal, as if it was some kind of brutal assault.

Her use of the term cisgendered says a lot about her and the rest of her story paints the rest of the picture.
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>>54959314
>>54959319
>>54959331
>>54959337
>>54959347
I FUCK YOUR BITCH
UH
SHE SUCK MY DICK
UH
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>>54958914
>driving

I doubt she knows how to drive

she'd get rides from her male band members and friends
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>>54959261

>did you even go to school for any years of your life?

You sound mad.
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>>54959368
>things people who didn't go to school for any years of their life say
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>>54959420
who are you quoting?
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>>54959420

Lol
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>>54959436
a white cisgendered man who went to school for many years of his life
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I just listened to her she sucks
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>>54959305
sounds about right
>>54959308
punk has a long history of sensitive types doing exactly that kind of shit ex: Ian Mackaye
>>54959347
>She's practically begging for some fucking hashtag to be made about her ordeal, as if it was some kind of brutal assault.
yeah no that'd be pitchfork; stop and wonder why that's what's at the very top of the interview? the questions asked and responses chosen to be published are designed to get fuckasses like you butthurt and clicking on their links. And yeah, most musicians get heckled; some aren't nice enough to keep playing. Danny Brown walked off stage last week after getting pelted with a water bottle in Glasgow I think it was. don't see a shitstorm about that do we?
Cisgender is just the new buzzword quit acting like using it defines you
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>I have a small audience
>I know what I'll do
>Blame le cisgender male boggyman

Holy shit fandroid why do you torture us with this unholy news.
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>>54959494
Out of curiosity, what sort of shit did Ian Mackaye call out audience members for?
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>>54958274
Thoughts?
Fandroid is the worst
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>>54959495
he's a novelty trip, spamming complete shit is just what you have to stay relevant
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>>54959494

I didn't knew who was she until I read this thread, I think is the other way around she is saying this edgy shit to bring attention to herself.
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>>54958444
>>54958455
>>54958911
>>54959099
>>54959522
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>>54958274
>cisgender
Now I can't even be normal without being labelled?
Ivy Tripp is going straight into my Recycle Bin.
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>>54959614
>>54959660
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>>54959494

You're right that some of the tone of the interview comes down to editing but unless she comes out and says that she was misrepresented I'm more or less taking her statements at face value.

>Cisgender is just the new buzzword quit acting like using it defines you

I'm not allowed to have a negative opinion about a buzzword otherwise it defines me. Gotcha.
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>>54959614
>>54959660
>>54959687
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>>everypost
all of these are me, in case you were wondering
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>>54959614
>>54959660
>>54959687
>>54959730
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>>54959522
Ian would shout at people for moshing, stop playing, and rant about his political opinions in between songs. He says one of the turning points in the hardcore scene for him was his brother getting roughed up in a mosh and thinking hardcore has gone south.
Note: this was the Minor Threat days when he was arguably the most HHHHHHHHxCCCCCCCCC d00d
>>54959545
yeah probably not. Do you know how interviews work, or media works, or tastemakers work. People buzzed her record when it came out, so I'll assume you just weren't paying attention to music then, and now p4k is sitting down with her and asking her things that yes, she probably believes, and presenting it in a way to get them hits. I mean, she's explaining that she's being sure to not come off bitchy and aggressive in the VERY PARAGRAPH that the interviewer plucked out that little fleeting reference to gender. If you're gonna get mad at someone, get mad at p4k.
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>"though she later mentions that her next album will likely mark a return to American Weekend-style solo songs"
No surprise there.
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>>54958321
*pretty average
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is this my dad
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>>54959776

>she's explaining that she's being sure to not come off bitchy and aggressive in the VERY PARAGRAPH that the interviewer plucked out that little fleeting reference to gender.

Wow, she's trying hard not to say the retarded things that she ended up saying anyways. Bravo.

Is this SJW equivalent of "I'm not racist, but..."

Also, how much are you charging her for PR?
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>>54959707
maybe she will; she's definitely got the time and doesn't have other press competing for her attention. But calling out bullshit interviews and reviews is often more trouble than it's worth, like with Fatima al Qadiri recently. She did just that and people just shat on her more. It's like trying to hunt down every tabloid probably. Or, she doesn't think it's as big a deal as "white cisgendered men" on the internet do; so whether that particular phrase really is such a crucial part of what she thinks or not, it probably wouldn't bug her that much if it's presented that way. In short: an exaggerated emphasis that really only rubs a certain group of people the wrong way, so does she really give a shit if it was exaggerated.

no I mean someone using a popular trendy term doesn't paint everything they ever say and do as X-Y-Z
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>>54958274
Pitchfork is pretty much an SJW hugbox at this point, so there's not much point in taking them seriously anymore.
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no idea who this bitch is and i will continue to live my life not ever listening to her music, the energy gives off and her words scream annoying feminist tumblr sjw
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>>54959889
>ever taking p4k seriously
go back to r/music fag
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>>54958274
>White cisgendered men

Well I especially don't want to listen to her now.
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>>54959949
thanks for this unique and enlightening comment, you've truly made a great thread better
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>>54959872

>doesn't paint everything they ever say and do as X-Y-Z

We're judging her for this instance. Also, whether anyone holds this view of her beyond now really shouldn't matter to you. I really don't get why you care whether people on this board thinks she has shitty opinions or a shitty personality. You should probably stop that now.
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>>54959869
>Wow, she's trying hard not to say the retarded things that she ended up saying anyways. Bravo.
it's the presentation buddy. yeah she used a phrase that riles up some people's jammies, but does p4k choosing to put that front and center negate everything else she says? It's pretty clear they picked that out and put it there even though it gives the opposite impression from the rest of her talk.

also never even listened to this girl's music, it's just sad to see /mu/ fall for this pitiful media trick over and over again.
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>>54959965

>Pot
>Kettle

This thread has proven how mutually whiny and lame her fans are too.
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>>54959243
She's kinda cute, but that's just my taste

>and ur taste is bad :^)
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>>54959889
so is 4chan
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>>54959905
this

pitchfork is hipster drivel.

The majority (if not all) of music review sites are awful though. I've always hated the idea of non musicians reviewing music, as if they are doing something important with their lives. Disgusting
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>>54960009
trans fans are whiny and lame about cisgendered people.
that shit doesn't even fucking show up on my spellcheck. it doesn't exist.
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>>54959614
>>54959660
>>54959687
>>54959730
>>54959773
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>>54960012
>4chan
>SJW hugbox

lol sure buddy
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>>54960038
my last name doesn't come up on spellcheck
guess I don't exist either
damn...
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>>54959971
>why does it matter to you if I disagree with you
Right back at you dumbass, why does it matter to you. You should probably stop as well. And yeah, every other time this has happened /mu/ went right back to business as usual and didn't bring it up all the fucking time huh? If she were as popular as Grimes, St. Vincent or Perfect Pussy you'd bet your ass this would be in every thread about her 5 months from now.
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>>54960067
yeah well i fucked your dad
so there
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>>54960063
No they are probably arguing the opposite when its far from truth, even on /pol/ you can find people having a reasonable argument underneath all the stormfront shit
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>>54960005

I read the rest of the article. The way she described that disruptive audience member also speaks volumes to who she is.

It's not just about her use of a word, that does in fact out her as part of a retarded online community, the rest of the interview painted the rest of the picture.
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>>54959965
You're welcome. If someone goes out of their way to insult another person for doing nothing, then why the fuck would they listen to them? My existence is apparently horrible to this woman, but it's okay because her existence is now horrible to me.
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>>54960063
With the exception of /pol/ this website is entirely leftist
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>>54960122
>22
i checked your doubles
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>>54960135
what possible political affiliation is really there in /a/?
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>>54960135
Not really maybe you need to leave mu more the site leans left as a whole but not sjw "left"
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>>54959903
calm down Gary you're out of touch
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>>54960077

>one thread
>literally going nuts at the thought that her being SJW becomes a meme

Jesus Christ dude, there isn't an artist on the planet that someone shit talking them would make me lose my shit as much as you are now.

Calm the fuck down.
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>>54960163
whatever the japs believe at the moment
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>>54960199
So comically conservative? They have imperialist fantasies.
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>>54960135

The funny thing is, the existence of /pol/ makes every other forum a hugbox.

/pol/ is containment, sadly.
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>making fun of white people
I see nothing wrong here
>cisgendered
goddamn it nevermind just shut the fuck up
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>>54960216
yeah, basically
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>>54960135
>4chan leftist
>Left - often opposed to social inequality

Do you visit other boards?
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>>54958502
omg yes
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>>54958274
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>>54960186
You're the one who is upset.
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>>54960135
I think you might've been right at one point but given this thread I think /pol/ has exerted much more influence throughout chan than anyone might expect. Anons aren't even just saying her music is shit like normal they're getting all edgy. I think its the fear that this shit'll will hit a tipping point eventually where you can't intentionally treat people in a way they don't want to be treated anymore n get away with it.

All that being said as a accual leftist and a long time fan of hers, that interview was awful and pitchfroth is OVER.
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Listen up, you simians. She is attractive to the people who don't want made-up artificial looking girls. Sure, she's a bit plain, but with no outright ugly features it merely makes her seem more attainable without downsides. If you can't appreciate anything less than the hottest babes then go ride the bus to refresh yourself of what average humanity looks like (alternatively look into a mirror.)
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>>54960295
ok
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>>54960256

>Wahhh everyone's gonna make fun of my indie folk punk momma for like 5 MONTHS
>Nah, you mad, bra

Okay, dude.
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>>54960295
she looks like a prude bitch that never has sex and fills her life with reblogging tumblrs about fighting the patriarchy
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>>54960295
>with no outright ugly features

Except for that glaring white self hatred it seems.
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>>54960278

>Wahh people might say the mean stuff on anonymous message boards

Stop being a pussy.
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>>54960135
nah more like apathetic teenagers with no political leaning whatsoever, with a handful of /pol/ leakouts shouting loudly.
>leftists are all cuddly wuss hugbears
there was a time in the turn to the 19th century when leftist anarchists would blow you up with bombs or stab you or shoot you just because you were bourgeois.
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>>54960295
did she cut her own bangs? cause dat shit is fucked up
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>>54960344

Yeah and now they curl into the fetal position at the sight of the second amendment, let alone standing up for something beyond hashtag activism and reposting shit on tumblr.
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>>54960295
her chin makes her look like a lemon
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>>54960295
I think she's cute. She would probably get mad at me for voicing this opinion though.
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i love how the straight white dudes in this thread keep referring to themselves as 'normal' or 'regular'
no wonder this demographic is criticized to shit lol
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nicki minaj is better
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>>54960363
At least she doesn't have those silly kid bangs that barely go halfway down the forehead.
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>>54960393

You're just so fucking retarded you don't even know how retarded you are.
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>>54960412
'no'
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>>54960314
You're absolutely seething with anger. I would recommend you take a chill pill.
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>>54960393
Being straight is "normal" or "regular" though
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>>54960389
>muh second amendment
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>>54960389
gun nut alert
gun nut alert
gun nut alert
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"This is peak Katie: strong but kind, hyper-aware of the Internet, and more emotionally intelligent than any 26-year-old has any right to be. "

>more emotionally intelligent than any 26-year-old has any right to be

What the fuck does that even mean? Fuck. Fuck Pitchfork.
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>>54960480
straw man alert
straw man alert
straw man alert
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>>54960452

Also, nothing is stopping gay or trans people from saying they're regular or normal.

Regular and normal is referring to being well adjusted mainly, and not having an extraordinary life.
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IM A TRANSEXUAL GAY MALE AND THIS WHITE BITCH JUST WANTS TO GET REWARDED FOR HER MEDIOCRITY AND BLAME HER SHIT ON SOMEONE ELSE

ALSO HER SHIT IS MADDD WHACK!!!!


>HURR IM A FAME WHORE AND WANT SHEKELS MY MUSIC SHOULD APPEAL TO EVERYONE
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>>54960470
>>54960480

wow it's like you guys didn't read the juxtaposition of a modern anti-gun stance with the direct use of violence of leftism at the turn of the 19th century.
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>>54960470
>>54960480

Scared of guns.

TRIGGER WARNING
TRIGGER WARNING
TRIGGER WARNING
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>>54960500
I don't think you know what that means. In fact I'm almost positive.
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>>54960537
what are you talking about? all i'm getting is that you're a gun nut and you believe in violence and you hate liberals
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>>54960344
lol, guess what, when shit hits the fan, guess who is going to win?
POL is, why?
Because they have guns.
Liberals piss themselves at the though of guns.
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>>54960390
you guys see it right?
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>>54960545

>References the second amendment
>Immediately labelled "gun nut" rather than argue or even mention original point
>Not a strawman

You clearly have no idea what it means.
>
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>>54960583

O M G

Ol Lemonhead Lucy, they'll call her

L M A O
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>>54960559
lol you have the best reading comprehension on earth. What's wrong, upset that people before WWII who leaned left weren't afraid of violence as a means to an end? At least they weren't faggots about pursuing their political ideologies.
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>>54960641

I think he was being facetious. At least, I hope.
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>>54960660
I should hope so too
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>>54960583
Yesterday I woke up...
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>>54960641
i don't believe in violence, that's why i'm against guns.
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>>54958274
>The thing about white cisgendered men is
So all white males? That is a pretty big generalisation there buddy
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>>54960583
This reminded me of the ol' lemon key face meme.
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>>54960718
>i don't believe in violence
haha what
like, you don't think it exists, or
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>>54960794
are you new to english? it means that i don't believe in the use of it. far too often gun nuts do.
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>>54960848
>the only vector of violence is guns

Damn nigga you dumb.
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I used to think "cis" meant some kind of really specific technical shit, like Lacanian theory or something.
No it is literally just an acronym for "comfortable in skin".
Huh. Just...huh.
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>>54960848
why is gun violence more special than any other violence?
Like if guns didnt exist people would just kill each other with swords.
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>>54960880
It's not an acronym, it's a latin prefix you dip
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>>54960848
Violence is a necessary part of life. Deal with it
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>>54958502
this. pitchfork is such shit.
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>>54960848
Anti-gun advocates are just as hate filled as "gun nuts", get over yourself
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>>54960905
don't know what you're talking about

i'm against guns because they're tools for killing people.
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>>54960880
>making shit up on an Iranian birdwatching message board
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Would you let her sit on your face?
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>>54960997
yes
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>>54960971
I could kill you by choking you to death are you an anti hand person too?
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>>54960997
>being dominated by an insane feminist who is disgusted by the idea of sex with men
yes please
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>>54961013
Thanks for giving me this fetish.
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>>54960997
Yes

I'm a cis white male who deserves to be punished by her ass
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>>54958911
Start a new band that is intentionally offensive to SJWs but dress in drag so you are untouchable. Call it The Problematicz
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