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Industrial, EBM Witch House, Goth, Darkwave, Death Rock, etc.

https://soundcloud.com/3teeth/sell-your-face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9uSzfqVny8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxP4z6aVaLE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swEosFQvZvk
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>>54824720

Some cheese as fuck industrial, sweet
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Saw this band play recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pz1dlAxrZg
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I know it's metal but i've been digging this album recently

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cixczzF0A10
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https://soundcloud.com/radostmoya/dream

god-tier witch house
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Speaking as a 16volt fan, this seems like a slightly new direction for its singer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s98piV1YLN8
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>>54824796
This is Hot Topic.
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Sure, I'll post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYgVzKSC2aw
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>>54824974
It is?I like it,make me think of 45 graves,but if it's hot topic tier I'll have to stop liking it
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Anyone else into "Cyber Metal"? It's basically industrial metal but darker and more atmospheric. I can't get enough of it right now.
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The real question is: new 3TEETH release fucking when?
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>>54824974
>>54824796

You could argue Hot Topic is its own genre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM2KmdxT37k
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>>54824996
Can't get into it because of the metalcore influence,like I really tried to get into it but I came to the conclusion that it's just bad
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>>54824996

You mean like THIS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2wTgaTaCzk
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>>54824998

you can download their new single i think
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>>54825024
Who did you listen to? Try ...And Oceans or The Kovenant, they're black metal cyber metal. Did you listen to Sybreed? Can't say I could see where the metalcore comparison comes in but they're the best known and my favorite.
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>>54824996

Had a classmate about ten years ago who was really into that "genre". His favorite was Celldweller which I thought of more as nu-metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NkkE7ESiaY
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>>54825051
A listened to a lot of sybreed but couldn't get into it,The kovenant is actually pretty good.I think I listened to some Illidiance too,I barely remember the band that I listened to honestly cause it was like 5 years ago.

But yeah I listened to a lot of Sybreed
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>>54825044
It's pretty good, I don't think it'll move Master of Decay from my top spot though
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>>54825086
Celldweller really isn't cyber metal. On a related note, his upcoming album is really upping the cheesiness, I'm disappointed.
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>>54825240

Cheesy overblown angst is what appeals to me from that artist
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Hey fellas, small town death rock guy here. Forgive me for being so self-promoting:
http://atrocityandthecomplications.bandcamp.com/
Hope somebody can enjoy it.
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>>54825315

love me some good spooky death rock
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>>54825264
I was cool with it on his S/T and Wish Upon a Blackstar, but I'm not enjoying the song writing as much on this one, so I'm not as tolerant of the growing cheesiness.
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>>54825355
Two and a half albums full in there. Really hope it kills some time for you.
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I spent a good portion of my late teens and early twenties hanging out in smoky rock'n'roll bars wearing goth-inflected rockabilly gear and decorating my room with glow in the dark skulls so this thread is right up my alley, thanks
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What ever happened to actual goth rock? Not talking about le wrong generation shit just what the hell happened, it's like it fell off the face of the earth in the mid 90s. I suppose ever genre only has exposure for so long, still it sucks that one of my favorite types of music is a completely dead scene.

Wat do?

Pic related
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>>54825466
More like it had a big wave in the mid 90s and went back underground. It's local pockets and independent bands now, and still going pretty strong just below the surface.
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>>54824829
Whatever happened to witch house?
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>>54825504
Idk man. Seems like innovation within the genre is dead, and the newer bands don't get popular because of the fact. Maybe it took the niche as far as it could go and burned out. Oh well. At least we can still appreciate it.
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>>54825466

>le wrong generation shit

At least we got Cold Cave out of the "le wrong generation" trend
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>>54825466
And Dawnrazor is one of my go-to smoke break songs in my DJ sets. God bless the Nephilim.
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>>54825511

It went from Salem and other semi-mainstream 2spooky4u memeshit to quality witch house like AAIMON and V>llh>ll
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>>54825240
His S/T is the only good album by him, blue stahli is better IMO
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>>54825182
Fair enough, Sybreed seems to be love them or hate them, especially because of the vocals.
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>>54825723

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-NfGeHbvjA
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>>54825644
I'll grant you there aren't labels full of bands that all sound totally different anymore, but there are quite a few good self-published bands doing crossover stuff and rearranging all the cliches and occasionally coming across something different that still fits.

As a musician, I've struggled a lot with this very thing, and pretty much everybody I've talked to about it has said they want to hear new music that sounds old, and it's more important to them as an audience that the bands are into it and play well and have a good visual element than that they invent totally new sounds. I say whatever and roll with it.
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>>54825749
It's like goth party music
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>>54825722
>implying
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>>54825769
are you
>>54825315
?
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>>54825909
Yeah.
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>>54825817

Goth party music, you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ly4611uL6Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxt7Xa_D-60
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>>54825919
I checked out some of your music, gotta hand it to you, it's pretty solid. Good luck, it's rough times for goth rockers.
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>>54826000
Not like I expect to get anywhere with it, but we try and we have fun, and the crowd around here likes it.
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>>54826000
And thanks. I really appreciate the compliment.
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>>54826053
Next time I swing through Kentucky I'll try and catch you guys if you have a show going on.
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>>54826160
Awesome. Would be for us anyway. For your sake I hope you don't have to go to Kentucky too often.
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>>54826190

Kentucky, what a crazy ass place
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>>54826280
It does have a certain gothic to it. Burned out houses in big empty pastures, kinda mournful local music, everybody smokes, everybody's kind of living in the ashes of the old south.
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>>54826190
Idk man. I come from a comparable sized town in Wisconsin, and all we have is fucking metalcore, thrash, death metal, and dadrock bands. Is there actually a goth music scene there?
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>>54826324
Yes there is. The town is a little over a quarter million, there are about nine bands closer to town than the closest big cities, and depending on how specialized they are they draw 40-120 people a night. We have a regular monthly goth night with a mix of bands and DJs, then one-off showcases about once a month on average. It's not a huge scene, but it's fairly healthy and growing right now.
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>>54826371

Glad to hear it's still a thing

The local goth night where I am gradually turned into an emo and nu-metal nostalgia night

I still go sometimes and it's fun but nowadays it's mostly people in their late 20s trying to regain the emo look and attitude they had as teens. The set list altered accordingly.
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>all this hardcore shit


i miss old goth

esp. the grills ;-;
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>>54826371
Wow! In Kentucky no less? I'm jelly, here the aforementioned diy scene is just the same group of like 30 people circlejerking each other. I want to be part of it but it's like I'd have to start my own damn scene just to get on my feet. You're not too bad off, bud.
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>>54826501
That came and went here. The leftovers became like a separate post punk scene. I go to their shows when I can and will see maybe two or three of the same people I see at our shows.
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>>54826527
I damn near started ours single-handedly. There was nothing going on for about a decade here, we had a pretty decent punk scene and it died off and all the big guys went to bigger cities around, my band and another gothy band started up about the same time a couple of years ago, we played the old punk bars until a couple of DJs came to me, I found us a bar to do monthly nights, that lasted about a year, they did well enough that pretty much all the non-college bars around here got interested, now we're pretty much set on venues. It took some work and a lot of love.
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Some real awful shit being posted here, cheesy industrial rock and hot topic-core.

If you're really /dark/ experts, could you rec me some more essential goth bands?

Already listened to The Cure, SoM, Siouxsie, Bauhaus, Christian Death, Alien Sex Fiend, Mephisto Walz, Red Temple Spirits, and The Creatures.

If possible something similar to the doom and style of Pornography.
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>>54826638
Super Heroines? Strap On Halo, Christ vs Warhol, Vanishing, Spiritual Bat
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>>54826670

Strap on Halo played in my town once at a now defunct venue. Haven't heard that name in a while.

Also I notice Fields of the Nephilim, Danse Society, and The Mission (UK) aren't in your list.
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>>54826638
Eat Your Makeup, Brotherhood of Pagans, maybe Lebanon Hanover, maybe Skeletal Family if you give them a few chances, Big Electric Cat, Black Atmosphere, Ex Voto
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>>54826730

Sixth June is a good more recent band for the kind of wavey, sweeping angst that you get from the real old school darkwave like Clan of Xymox
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>>54826724
I was trying to bring SoH here when they were in driving range, then they moved across the damned country. Really like that band.
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>>54826638
Have you listened to Xmal Deutschland?
>>54826597
I'm actually really glad to hear that. It gives me hope that perhaps one day I may triumph over the metalcore circlejerk scene.
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>>54826524
>a
take this man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_b8j7tWm4w
one of my fav death rock bands
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>>54826670
Some of these are really recent. Interesting.

>>54826724
I've forgotten about these, thanks.

>>54826730
Very recent stuff too, will check it out.

>>54826758
No I haven't. Although I consider myself a goth fan, i'm still pretty entry level on some stuff.
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>>54826750
You heard Pretentious Moi?
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>>54826860

Heard of, should probably look them up on youtube since you mentioned them
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https://soundcloud.com/bernard-marx/sets/bernard-marx

Dude's been posting this in SC threads the past week. Haxan Twin/ Aphex Cloak is what it makes me think.
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>>54826877
Honestly I'm into about one song of theirs I've heard, but if you're into the more synthy end of things they might appeal to you.
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The very small handful of other twenty something goth/dark music fans I know are either batshit conspiracy theorists or hardcore social justice warriors. Not like your run of the mill college feminist activist types, but people who turn nearly everything into an angry, comically over the top politically correct rant straight out of a Portlandia skit
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>>54826895

The more synth the better imo
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>>54826936
Sorry to hear that. Most of our scene here is a little left leaning and mostly older than twenty something, but they don't let it get in the way of things like it sounds like yours do. Feel like I should have some kind of advice for you or something, but that just sucks and I'm sorry you have to put up with it.
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Anyone else here fucking hate The Cult?

Their hard rock transition was literally the most pathetic thing to happen to a /dark/ band ever.

I tried listening to Love, but even there the hard rock influences were really present. It sucks.
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>>54826831
Xmal is mid-level, but an essential to the genre imo. People compare them to Siouxie but I definitely prefer them. For albums check out Tocsin and Fetisch.
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>>54827015

I feel like Ministry's transition was worse

I think I saw them billed on a festival flier for an event featuring a bunch of second-rate nu-metal bands that everyone I knew mocked even as teens
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>>54827074
Idk man, their last two records were really shit tier but up until Houses of the Molé they were fine for me.

I guess I prefer generic Industrial Metal more than cheesy hard rock.
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>>54827074
Late Ministry was a fun show though. Saw them in a midsized venue on the Rio Grande Blood tour. Not nearly as loud as I was expecting, but plenty loud, very agreeable crowd, RevCo opened, so no mall children really attracted. Ministry played plenty of late 80s-present stuff if I remember right, just not quite into the more new wave stuff.
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>>54827166

I enjoyed seeing Al Jourgensen trash his fans over social media a little while back
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>>54826638
Try Cinema Strange
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyAt3NiBZAQ
anyone else into them?
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>>54827386
Yeah he can be like that. He didn't really seem to be happy to be at that particular show either, but still gave a good performance, then promptly fucked off to get drunk without hanging out with anybody.
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>>54827430
Been spinning them some at my DJ nights, but I don't listen to them a hell of a lot on my own. Good casual listening for me I guess.
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>>54826936
That sucks. Where you from? The scene here in NM, is mostly industrial try-hards, guess it's better than what you've got goin on tho
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when goth experiments

Psychedelic Rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBWs_NDnH9Y

Industrial Rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hI5Eg6Ias4&list=PLUdmMccuxH2GY729BEcaoVeEaI-urHO3t

Neofolk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myzNWd-Pp2g

Hard Rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCOSPtyZAPA

got any goth jazz or goth country? would be interesting
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Give me an edgier /dark/ song

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQE3CxXuszQ
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>>54827569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h622QenLaE
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>>54827569
i try to keep aggro shit away from the /dark/ canon, it's at par with nu metal for me
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>>54827613
like trance in /bleep/ huh. It's my guilty pleasure
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>>54827585
My Favorite Christian Death song evar
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>>54827549
>goth country
Closest thing I know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22xRMM685Bk
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>>54827549

I like how virtually the only neofolk band anyone ever actually talks about is Death in June
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>>54827585
seems like a generic black metal song when I look at the lyrics
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/pol/ here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-R6ma5JJBY
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>>54827715
This was written about 1980. By a 16-year-old.
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>>54827569

lol

>edgy

>names of serial killers over a shit-tier hypno-beat

get a fucking life you moron
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>>54827757
>>names of serial killers over a shit-tier hypno-beat
>makes it not edgy
It's exactly what a 15 year old would listen to you dumbass, it's the supreme edge song
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>>54827777
>>54827757
>>54827569
Wait I got one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsBgMh_ssAg
Edgy because the singer actually dated Richard Ramirez then wrote it about him.
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>>54827569

Nostalgia trip right there. Every visibly edgy, moody classmate of mine in high school had at least one Combichrist album on their iPod.
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>>54827839
oh fuck good contender, in that context
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>>54827839
On the subject of early 80s chick bands with edge, this one on lyrics alone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HveLi-_o5Is
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>>54827712
Meh, i like C93, DI6 and Sol Invictus

Heard of but haven't bothered to listen: Rome, Kiss the Anus of a Black Cat, Der Blutharsch, Of Wand and the Moon
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Oh... you guys are serious...well then:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnrG904talA
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>>54828030
check out Nature and Organisation
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Industrial threads don't usually prosper here, but goth ones do.
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>>54828065
Man, Bauhaus doesn't take themselves seriously enough to ever be edgy. Far as they're concerned, they're a comedy/reggae band.
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>>54828065
i dont like that spiritu santa shit
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>>54828142
Funny thing how Peter Murphy mocked the whole /dark/ label and yet the goth/weird kids are the only ones to give a fuck about his solo career.
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>>54828194
It was a trendy thing to do at the time. I can't really think of a band on a decent sized label during the 80s that didn't swear not to be /dark/ and claim to hate the goth/weird kids. Andrew Eldritch was probably the worst about it.
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>>54828257
lel, and SoM is another band that like I mentioned on >>54827015 that went completely shit.

What do this idiots have in mind when they go hard rock?

They should follow Rozz Williams example: instead of going mainstream with stadium-rock type shit, go further inacessible with industrial/noise elements.
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>>54828355
Can't speak for every band this has happened to, but I really think in the case of Sisters it was protesting being labeled a little too hard. I can still get into Vision Thing, but I'd never see them live just from all I've heard about how douchey the man can be. He's walked out on sold out shows and fired supporting bands because he didn't like the way the audience/performers were dressed.
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>>54828030
>>54828110
Pretty much just named all the neofolk bands worth anything. Everything else gets too cheesy or should be called martial industrial (Les Joyaux de la Princesse, for example).
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Newish little band I wish would quit breaking up so I could see them one day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogMONYgl5jc
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Is anyone here into Soror Dolorosa? I love this album.
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>>54828484
There are other good neofolk bands but there is a lot of bad bands too. Stormfågel, Strydwolf, Forseti, Sonne Hagal, Jännerwein, Solblot, Varunna, Weh, Havnatt, Fräkmündt, Roma Amor are some interesting bands.

Stormfågel and its influence from Swedish folk music and bands like Skinny Puppy is very obvious, not at all a Di6 clone. Strydwolf has some interesting stuff like Ljocht! which nothing sounds similar to. Forseti and Sonne Hagal are classics and perfect the German neofolk style which has influenced some of the Scandinavian bands starting to emerge. Jännerwein is very new and their next album is going to be the shit, they have some excellent songs and a couple decent albums. Solblot is very sturm und drang and has some excellent harmonies, their music also fits the Swedish poetry it is set to (like Stormfågel) absolutely perfectly. Varunna perfects martial element of acoustic neofolk. Weh's newest album is great, their older work has a few good songs too, and everything Havnatt has done is minimalist and beautiful and obviously with the influence of classical training. Fräkmündt is traditional Alpine folk mixed with neofolk. Roma Amor is neofolk mixed with at times chanson (obvious Jacques Brel influences) and also dark cabaret, similar influences to Rome but a very different end result.

Another good band from the scene (and also a band that Douglas P loves, iirc) is Spiritual Front, but they're more experimental rock with neofolk and goth influences.

There are plenty of great innovative neofolk bands, you just have to look past all the Death in June clones.
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I'm currently obsessed with C93's Nature Unveiled, the mix between the choral parts, the dark ambiance, the noisy loops and the vocal work is just amazing.

Can anybody rec anything similar? Already familiar with Tibet's catalog.

>>54829728
You seem pretty knowledgeable on the subject. Great post.

>>54828406
What a fucking insufferable cunt, SoM's current incarnation deserves to be irrelevant.
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>>54827549
Gothic country is a genre, it's bands like those poor bastards, sons of perdition, or the pine box boys
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>>54829825
.. The rest of industrial?
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>>54829825
How much of Rome's discography have you checked out?
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>>54829909
K, then find me some 19 minute long suite with a religious-like choral work talking about demons while drowned in noise.

Already familiar with TG, PTV, SPK, Coil, NWW, E. Neubauten, C. Voltaire, Monte Cazazza, Foetus, Z'EV, Clock DVA, 23 Skidoo.
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>>54829979
He's not talking about demons, he's talking about a vision of the apocalypse.
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>>54829979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfW5jHOEpIE
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>>54829953
Nothing, only heard C93, DI6 and Sol Invictus. Pretty entry level on neofolk.

>>54829994
Cool, but I always thought Maldoror was a demon or an evil entity of some sort. I guess you're refering to the verses where (i think) he says "the sun went black, the moon is ??"
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>>54830035
In one interview he gave he said Nature Unveiled was basically a concept album about the Christian apocalypse.

Those lyrics are straight from Revelation:

http://biblehub.com/revelation/6-12.htm

In Les Chants de Maldoror the titular character is.. a thing. It's definitely evil. He was apparently gonna name his kid Maldoror but whoever he was with apparently aborted him/her.

Hence the "MALDOROR IS DEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD" chants.
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>>54830072
That's actually pretty sad. I wonder if having a child would have made an impact on his music.

I was commenting here the other day about how stupid I feel when I enjoy an artist's music but cannot grasp the references of his lyrics.

>>54830029
This is cool, but my favorite thing about NU was its chorus elements. Especially the beginning of Ach Golgotha.
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