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/shugazi/ - Shoegaze (Dream Pop, Noise Pop, and Blackgaze) General

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hey guys are we still doing that magpie flowchart
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We'll see. For the moment I think that one works fine.
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>>54698560
I think it would be a good idea to settle on a chart we could keep editing every time a great release comes out.
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Boces isn't noise pop.
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>>54698680
what is it then
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>>54699475
Psychedelic Pop
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>>54699475
blackgaze
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GUISE! I figured out how to turn all your non shoegaze music into shoegazing.

Just take a pair of bad headphones (or in this case goo) like the pic and blow them out so you get even more distortion. All your non shoegaze will be genuine shoegaze in seconds!

Keeping looking at the ground guys and always remember to mumble
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>>54699475
shit
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>>54700943
B L O W N O U T

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>>54700995
>blown out ass
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>>54702020
Cornstarch has got 20/20 vision
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>>54702067
>cornstarch
Don't worry, this happens a lot
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A Place to Bury Strangers - Transfixiation [2015]
>Noise Rock, Shoegaze, Post-Punk,

https://mega.co.nz/#!nYgEWKgA!HGkRzKmWF1yMkgX6jXDxy2AUY91ZyJRKKLHjChjOZiY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7iG_s4PJM8
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Asobi Seksu x Boris - Asobi Seksu x Boris
>Shoegaze, Dream Pop,

https://mega.co.nz/#!adRSCDxB!Ll2Nmpjftps6qkWUA0DM3CTxnb9_HkzpZGaOKpNwhBQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxP-b5R38NU
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>>54698528
I've never listened to music classified as shoegaze, but I listen to wild nothing and other similar artists and yet have heard none of these other artists. Are you sure you have this band listed correctly?
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>>54704761
They're more dream pop than shoegaze, but the two styles are pretty closely related. Cocteau Twins isn't shoegaze either, but they're important to the development of it.
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Why so underrated?
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>>54705229
Pretty much every shoegaze release that isn't by MBV, Slowdive, or Ride gets underrated. The Invisible Man is such a bizarre track I love it. Need to get around to listening to Spooky when I can.
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>>54705229
Not enough noise
Not enough whispering
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>>54698528
Looking for something along the lines of Bowery Electric (trip + shoegaze) Anything decent?
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I'm a noob and I really really like the (prepare for the worst explanation ever) slow and bass heavy sound of Souvlaki, as opposed to the dense sound of Loveless I guess? Especially Space Station and When The Sun Hits. Anyone got any recommendations?
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More like this? Or any shoegaze that's not typical rock song shoegaze but something more complex and artistic?
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>>54707719
Sweet Trip, I guess.
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bumop
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>>54707719
I'd say the Goslings are like that.
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>>54698528
Hm, I actually like this better
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les thugs
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>>54699475
neo-psychedelia/psych pop I'd say
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>>54698528
Christ, when did this chart get so big? It was literally half that size just last week.
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>>54712906
It didn't exist last week, this one's entirely new. Someone made it like last Wednesday. I think it was kind of based off of the old one though.
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>>54707719
This right here is literally art gallery-core. This as abstract and artistic it gets.

It's not even really shoegaze, it's just really shoegaze influenced electro-acoustic.
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>>54698528
How can you accept this flowchart? Most of the linked albums don't have much in common.
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>>54713098
idk we can ask whoever made it to change it around
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Do you guys consider sludgegaze a legit thing? What's the best example of it?
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>>54698528
psychedelic is spelled wrong on this chart
also i think the little descriptions of the first 3 albums should be brought back for new listeners to decide what they want first (iirc it was like noisey, wall of sound, dense and layered for loveless, dreamy and spacey for souvlaki, and alt rocky/genre mixing for nowhere).
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>>54698528
stop posting this shit you fag enabler
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>>54713565
Would Bardo Pond count as sludgegaze?
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>>54713937
Nah I'm thinking more like shoegaze-y atmosludge. Last.fm has a tag for it but there isn't much http://www.last.fm/tag/sludgegaze. They call the Goslings sludgegaze and I'm not sure how accurate that is
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>>54705229
One of my favs. Really addictive sound.
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>>54713565
Would The Angelic Process count?
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>>54715381
Yeah I think so, I'm basically just describing drone metal anyway
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>>54698528
Where the fuck is swervedriver?
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>>54713565
Is Jesu sludgegaze?
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>>54716480
Yeah Jesu for sure
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Why the fuck is it called shoegaze?
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>>54716563
the performers stared at their pedalboards a lot then niggas in the press started calling them shoegazers.
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>>54704254
Holy shit, I never knew there was a version of this with bonus tracks. Thanks a ton, anon.
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>>54716563
It's the genre for people with a foot fetish
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>>54716563
I like shoe
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>>54707177
Check Beat by Bowery Electric.
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>>54713043
holy fucking shit. fantastic rec, thanks anon.
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SOTY:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp1ks7PTzng
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>>54713043
This was the best shit I've ever heard. Someone please give me some more albums like this ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>54715871
F U C K

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>>54720122
You doing it
W R O N G
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>>54713043
How have I never seen this talked about before? Hidden gem.
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>>54720602
" n o "
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Was poking around Graveface looking for something from Whirr and came across this:
https://graveface.bandcamp.com/album/the-stargazer-lilies-we-are-the-dreamers
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>>54698528
is there an expanded part of the autumn/lantlos/deafheaven area?
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I'll try again because last thread died when i asked this so
I enjoyed this album a lot but the noisier opener was absolutely my favourite song on the album. Is there anything more like it, instrumental or not?
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>>54698528
>>54698560

Why did you take Glifted off? It was on the last version
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>>54721704
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>>54721780
Maybe Primary Colours by The Horrors
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>>54718987
>>54720696

Because they only discuss this album in /noise/ generals. Ambient noise is GOAT, and tragically overlooked even in /noise/. Or anywhere.
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>>54722428
Thanks, any more?
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>>54723347
as someone who lurks both generals I can say that white noise/ambient isnt looked down upon as it once was, in fact if you go in there right now and ask for a chart there may be someone in there who can post it for ya, I unfortunately do not have it saved
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>>54724023
Ghostbath - Moonlover is some really good 2015 american blackgaze
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>>54722428
There should be more worthwhile blackgaze.
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is rollerskate skinny shoegaze?
Is atlas sound?
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>>54725732
Rollerkate Skinny is shoegaze/noise pop
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>>54725692
There probably are
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>>54698528
Where the fuck is The Jesus and Mary Chain?
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>>54726972
Psychocandy is in there, but nothing else
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>>54727022
oh, right. didn't notice it.
thank you for pointing it out!
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>>54726972
hmm, probably in a noise pop thread
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>>54727345
>/shugazi/ - Shoegaze (Dream Pop, Noise Pop, and Blackgaze) General
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>>54722428

I guess ██████ is more like post black metal than BLACKGAZE.

I think actually they don't have any shoegaze influence presence in their music
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>>54724249
Last time I saw that chart there was only like 8 on there. Probably expanded it more recently, I guess.
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>>54727924
how the fuck do you search [spoiler]██████[/spoiler]?
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>>54727022
Are any of their other stuff shoegaze-related?
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>>54729671
The only other album of theirs I've listened to is Darklands. It wasn't full on shoegaze, but there was definitely a lot of shoegaze influence.
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>>54722428
that Lantlôs is post rock man
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yooooooo more like Grandeur of Hair please
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>>54730085
So like extremely noisy?
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Thank you guys for the flowchart, It's really well done. I'm loving this a lot right now.
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>>54698528
What do you guys think of Swervedriver and their new album?
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>>54713043
>>54713043
link plz?
also for other recs
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>>54698528
Hey thanks

>>54698680
What would you write instead? Psychadelic pop isn't a great link there, but boces sounds shoegazy

>>54720696
It's on my chart

>>54730141
Glad! That album rocks.

>>54730136
Man I should put this on the chart maybe, haven't listened to this in a while though
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Mikgazer Vol. 2 is coming!
https://twitter.com/siestaonsunday/status/560491033356550144
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>>54731433
cool, but people need to use vocaloid to make sounds that we can't already make.
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>>54708334
Sweet Trip is damn great
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>>54698528

JAPAN
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>>54705229
desire lines is my favorite lush song!! love this album!
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>>54716480
yes jesu 100%
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>>54713565
true widow i think counts as sludgegaze.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQN5ZDtSeR4
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>>54722428
will check out
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>>54732098
Yeah, definitely the best song on there.
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how come nobody ever talks about jessica bailiff in these threads?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-foddoQEzE

even in silence is my second favorite shoegaze album
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Post songs that give you chills everytime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwI3QLvrhjU
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>>54731968
tru
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Please remove
SUN
BAT
HER
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>>54713889
fuckin hell
I'll fix it

>>54715871
swervedriver a shit
Can't believe I forgot to add them in though

>>54734161
no
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>>54734527
Your flowchart is bad and you should feel bad
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>>54734544
If you make one better we can start posting that one instead
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>>54730720
I thought this was p good anon, 8/10
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Yo /mu/ biggest pleb what's ur fave shoegaze album lately
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>>54734966
Don't act like I'm an expert finding hidden gems or anything I find most of my stuff on here anyway

Someone mentioned another of Pastel Blue's albums here, and I just started listening to them, but holy shit this is great already, can't wait to listen to all of it.
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>>54734966
Been listening to Hartfield and cosmicdust a lot.
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>>54736565
you aren't me but those are good albums either way. Have you listened to L.I.B.R.A. EP by Hartfield? Didn't really like it but I'm curious as to what other people think of it.
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>>54718987
>>54730809
>>54713043
It's really just electronic lovesliescrushing
https://mega.co.nz/#!E10EkbCB!gBmOP88Vf3BbRjVnbCW7enQxrcMPg-zYCTGzmOkeF5A
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>>54698528
>no swervedriver
>no seefeel
>no a.r.kane

fix it now OP
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>>54730720
Haven't listened to the new one but I really like some songs on Raise. Underrated band.
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>>54735375
is this a Galaxie 500 cover band or what?
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>>54736606
I haven't heard it yet. How does it compare to TC,TL?
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>>54705229
It's good but their previous releases were heavier on the shoegaze stuff, so it isn't posted in these threads as much.

I still think Gala has all their best moments though.
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>>54736901
far worse imo... check it out though I've heard people talk abot true color true lie a lot but never the EP, maybe because it's not as good.

>>54736854
Swervedriver is coming, just fucking hate their sound idk why and probably just blocked it out. Mezcal head should be somewhere though, where should I slot it in? Not much space...

I have never heard a seefeel album I will get on that too.

A.R. Kane? Excuse me this is a shoegaze chart.

also I'm not OP

>>54736879
Similar artwork, but no. It's very shoegaze. I'm not a huge fan of Galaxie 500 can someone let me in about what there is to like about them? Maybe specific songs?
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>>54737157
I like those very much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO29Pz2Hw5w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VejZKCpNnrs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c_vxO9VbvY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPqAG0oYYzc
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>>54737192
Alright I'm at the level after listening to these I can understand the appeal. It might not necessarily appeal to me, but I think with enough listening I could like it more. These were good song choices.
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>>54722428
Just put pic related on and I don't like the vocals (I used to listen to screamo a lot). Is there anything on the list with actually good vocals?
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>>54737920
At least try listening to Alcest.
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>>54698528
>No malory
Not here not now is a fantastic album, why is it not on here?
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>>54698680
Yes, it is
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>>54733708
This. Electric or acoustic, it gives me chills and feels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShKpQhepcO0
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>>54737157
I'm surprised you don't like Swervedriver. Their new album is really good.
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>>54737998
because I cannot possibly listen to and know every single shoegaze album

where would you put it?

>>54738174
I haven't listened to it yet, maybe I will.
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>>54738201
It's on the dreamier side of things with wild nothing
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>>54738243
solid... I might put it in there if I can
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>>54738287
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>>54738201
>I haven't listened to it yet, maybe I will.
I definitely recommend it.
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>>54736672
it's not even electronic...
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>>54713043
If you like this you'll probably also enjoy:
Belong - October Language
Secret Abuse – The Immeasurable Gift
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Hey guys, what have you been listening to lately?
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>>54698528
ooh that's a nice new chart
but Yukari Telepath is one of my all-time favourite albums and it's definitely not dark/sad, it's heavy and metallic but actually quite happy/resolute
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>>54730136
I've been thinking that this should be on the chart between the Goslings and Merzbow.
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>>54738880
seemed dark to me, the vocals especially. It almost seems exasperated. It's got some harder guitar riffs too which I would place it in the darker region with shoegaze which is generally more happy anyway. I guess it comes down to opinion. I'm trying to force connections often where they don't really exist as well as in other places so people have kind of an idea what to listen to next if they liked it. I'd imagine someone who likes this would enjoy something sad too, is all.

>>54738883
I'm just running out of space is all. I might try and shoehorn it in. Thanks for your suggestion.
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xiugaze
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What do you guys think of The Bilinda Butchers?
They definitely sound interesting.
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>>54698528
the nasa album is not space sounds

its recordings of waveforms/frequencies (that arent soundwaves) made on space. That then were converted to sound just by assuming those waves/frequencies were sound ones (a thing they arent).
Then the artist got those sounds and applied effects on it to make it a sound.

if you remove the effects part the closest artist from this type of "space sound" is
Hobetbte Ha Borpocbl
http://hobetbtehaborpocbl.bandcamp.com/
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>>54728014
Here you go
> http://wedonthaveaname.bandcamp.com/music
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I think this album should definitely be on that flowchart
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Having mixed feelings about this one, more good than bad.
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>>54725692
i'm open for suggestions!
>>54727924
they sure are on the post-bm side of the spectrum. the chart is quite broad so it touches on a few different aspects of blackgaze. like >>54729840 said the newest lantlos is on the postrock side and the mantle is probably mostly folk metal. i tried to give a few different perspectives on the genre with this chart though.

again, definitely open for suggestions or additions
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>>54737920
maybe lantos on there, it has clean vocals
>>54740872
i wish more tracks on there were like butterfly kisses. love that track.
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Ride just posted a short video of them playing Seagull on their fb. Sounds like they never broke up.
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Any fans of Whirr and/or Nothing?
I saw Nothing earlier this month and they were great. Seeing Whirr for a second time next month.
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>>54742689
Gonna see Whirr April 19th and I'm really excited for that. I saw A Place to Bury Strangers at the same venue and that was a great show
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>>54742689
Currently hooked on Whirr and looking to acquire a couple of their physical releases. I read the other day that they would be touring in April, but I won't be able to go. The worst part is, in a year I will probably be a stone's throw away from one of their destinations, but they're all to far from me right now.

I discovered Nothing long before I discovered these threads. I liked them then, and I like them even more now. Probably won't get to see them for a while either.

Sometimes living in Bumfuckistan sucks.
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>>54715871
>>/pol/
fuckhead
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>>54739055
I'm not complaining about the flow chart, and I may have missed them, but I think people should check out My Dead Girlfriend if they like Shoegaze. It's just a suggestion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhwkltXU0RI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tSlpYQfgw
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>>54743180
I bought Distressor on vinyl when I saw them and it's great even though the lacks Nichole Kidman. When I saw Nothing, I bought their split release with Whirr and that's great as well.
Don't worry, anon. One day you will experience the greatness of Whirr.
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>>54743180
Big tour got announced today anon, still no nothing in ur area??
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>>54743296
If only this was in English it would be amazing.
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>>54742689
I think Whirr is the best nugaze band going on right now.

Nothing is pretty boring IMO. If anyone here likes hardcore, their vocalist was in a band called Horror Show before he went to jail for stabbing someone. Really good stuff, definitely prefer them to Nothing.
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Reposting cuz I'm an attention whore - which albums should I be excited for?
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>>54743489
If someone were to ask me to define shoegaze, Whirr would be one of the first artists I would recommend. Right now I'm undecided on which to get first - Distressor, Sway, or Guilty of Everything.

>>54743809
Not even close. Their nearest stop is somewhere in Texas, and that's several hours' drive from here. Flying is out of the question.
>tfw tour is announced on my birthday and I can't make it
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>>54744019
imo whirr > nothing but I still really like nothing. Whirr is best nugaze for sure though.
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How did y'all feel about this??
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>>54744084
Adding to this. No Joy is a close second for best new(ish) band doing shoegaze rn
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>>54744084
love both. i hate bands doing split ep's though. how do i even catalog them digitally? various artists, first bandname, or a duplicate for both? makes my 'autism' kick in
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>>54738859
this pedal is not that great and over priced. you'll get a better and less expensive shoegaze sound with a marshall reflector into a marshall guvnor
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>>54744219
Musicbee makes any split/comp show up as a whole in each artists page. idk if this helps you or not but I think its nice
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>>54744025
A lot of those I haven't played myself just yet. From my notes:
>Whirlpool: even better the second time
>Heaven's End: so-so
>In the Presence of Nothing: neat but kinda droney
>The Comforts of Madness: pretty good
>Drop You Vivid Colours: interesting
>bloweyelashwish: makes good background music

>>54744219
>how do i even catalog them digitally?
Haha, never thought about it that way, but you're right. That's caused me problems too.
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>>54744278
actually, that's exactly what i'm looking for. thanks!
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Anyone here have any limited pressing of whirr - sway? I'll spend up to $35 for a cool pressing
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>>54744327
Nice, looks like I have some good stuff ahead of me
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Pppppppbump
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>>54730136
>tfw iamalakeofburningorchids bandcamp page is gone
anybody got a download somewhere?
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>>54744387
I'll give you a cool pressing on my anus.
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>>54744387
>http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?sort=price%2Casc&limit=25&master_id=730691&ev=mb&format=Vinyl
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>>54748747
ye i saw the guys purple one b4 i asked here, just figured id ask if anyone had anything cooler
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>>54728013
its pretty large now
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>>54749977
What is E2-E4 doing on that chart?
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>>54750134
I have no idea
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>>54740067
Who cares mate it's a joke

>>54743296
I know they're not there, I like this band, I'm just keeping it more essential stuff, you know? I could probably put it in the japanese section, but eh.
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>Psychocandy similar to Boces
Other than that, solid chart.
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>>54751802
If you think about it in a sense of them both being noisey pop albums then yeah I guess it works.
But I think bands like Astrobite and Goslings owe more to JAMC and sound more like their type of noise than Mercury Rev.
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>>54744038
I just bought Guilty of Everything today actually. I will probably buy Sway when I see them.
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>>54744019
I'm surprised you don't like Nothing if you like Whirr. Did you heard Nothing's side of the split with Whirr?
Those 2 tracks are phenomenal.
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>>54752644
Looks like that's the one I'll be going with - in the end I rolled a die to decide. I kept rolling Guilty of Everything again and again. Did you get it from Relapse or from somewhere else?
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Skip to 17 minutes 52 seconds in, or just copy and paste this link in your URL, and watch.

http://youtu.be/8t8HxBF9FzM?t=17m52s

Just try to tell me she isn't the most qt shoegazer ever, with those teeth and that awkward smile, I dare ya.
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>>54753731
fuck you and your shitty meme
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>>54753397
Relapse
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>>54737157
>A.R. Kane? Excuse me this is a shoegaze chart.
You already have Cocteaus and Psychocandy on there.

If they're shoegaze then so is fucking A.R.Kane
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>>54753731
uguu
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>>54755518
this

The idea was to branch out into closely related styles anyway.
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>>54753731
Shoegaze is just a qt genre in general.
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>>54746252

>I am a Lake of Burning Orchids - Summer in My Veins
>"shoegaze electronics"

s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofIgDmr4sNI

d:https://mega.co.nz/#!c9VDlTaK!muzZC3kQl2opwj76R17HHr9BObTYRgNM5ErfvOqUGmg

artwork here >>54730136
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>>54698528
>Slowdive - More Than A Day
Should be Just For A Day
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>>54755518
Heaven or Las Vegas is clearly labeled dream pop as a compass to look into something else. That's why Boces and Pulse Demon are on there.
Psychocandy is shoegaze, just listen to the second track, and it's a major influence on the scene.
Look how many albums are on there and how many were suggested in this thread. I'm not adding more that aren't shoegaze, sorry.

>>54757786
fuck I suck
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>mikgazer
is this a meme
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>>54758984
It's not bad. I like it actually.
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>>54758984
it's music so yes
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Anything more like Xinlisupreme?
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>>54759618
Sometimes I wish there would be bands made specifically to rip off bands that haven't made enough music.

I guess that's kind of what a lot of shoegaze bands are, but there needs to be more stuff like Xinlisupreme is what I'm saying.
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>>54757176
tru
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>>54757553
cheers anon!
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>>54704254
I just listened to this, never really got into shoegaze outside of the basics for this is really fun

Gonna search for more, thanks a lot, anon
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what lrd album has the most shoegazes?
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>>54738859
Dude, that's a really cool fucking pedal.
Of course as I expect it to be over priced than it should be. But I would totally pay as much as it cost for a collective thing.
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>>54758769
A.R Kane are clearly shoegaze though, even if they experiment with it alot. Just listen to Up! and Lolita EP. Also, they literally coined the term dream-pop so they have huge historical value.
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