nice meme pitchfork
why do people still listen to them again?
>why do people still listen to them again?
People like you that despite hating them keep making threads about them and thus we get the frontpage filled with what Pitchfork does or stops doing.
They have decent reviews.
This is shit.
>BAS DONT HAVE BLACK PEOPLE ON THEIR ALBUMS THEY ARE BAD
I'm going to make an EP called "I'm sorry black people" and have a picture of a black person getting whipped and me (a white guy) crying in the corner paying reperations to a smiling black guy.
It's going to get a 10.0
She's right that there are a lot of white people in indie. But races tend to sort themselves out. That's a bigger issue. I don't know if throwing Belle and Sebastian, who live in Scotland, under the bus helps anything. Also by equating indie with Whiteness, she is enhancing the wall keeping people of other races out (if there is such a thing). I'm all for shaking things up, but she's setting up a fight and not actually looking for solutions. I hate taking sides. She wants me to.
Are these people insane? Really, what kind of maniac writes this stuff?
And you know they will respond to the outrage with their eternal "well if whites are getting ticked off, it means we did something write, we struck a nerve".
That's like saying the Japs were right because the Americans in Pearl Harbor didn't like getting bombed.
The problem is the hipocrisy - you'll never see P4k complaining about the blackness of hiphop, R&B or grime. People like Eminem or Iggy Azalea get demonized for appropriating black culture but at the other hand indie rock being a predominantly white genre is a problem?
That's the thing though, they're from Scotland, but American hipsters listen to them so they don't have to hear Kendrick makes points about bishes & filling pools full of liquor to drink them.
>tfw p4k is going full buzzfeed/clickbait
>tfw this article is literally, openly a troll and p4k this its like cute and endearing
remember when p4k was good
11 years ago
something about white people forcing white people things on non-white people hundreds of years ago makes it okay for non-white people to do white people things, but not the other way around
i think that's how they operate
>this article was posted by a light-skinned indian
>india separated people into different castes based on skin color for thousands of years and to this day consider darker-skinned people to be literally subhuman
Why is everyone so buttblasted about this? The vast majority of indie rock is pussified garbage that represents the pussified state of young whites.
Sure, it's obnoxious to racebait, but, objectively speaking, Indie rock is "First World Problems" the genre.
>That fucking article
>Those even more autistic comments
Fucking hideous all around. Between that write up and the fanbase I'm fucking done with that site for music news.
>the facebook comments are all "nice meme" by 100 different white guys
I love you guys
Whenever people suggest that black culture has anything negative within it, they have to tread lightly. I know the reason is that there is a reasonable desire to not blame the victim. But if you want to really change something, you have to go after the source. The internet can so rarely handle nuance.
waiting for the horde of negro crossposters from KTT to swarm in and say this is acceptable
why are black people the worst posters on this site
The problem I have with it is that p4k is run by people like pic related, so the fact that they think they can publish this shit is pretty hardcore hypocritical
Yea, but it's naturally organized itself that way. There is no fucking cabal of white indie musicians out there leaving death threats for any black band who "dares" call themselves indie. Other races just prefer to make other genres of music, because those other genres of music are popular in their communities and families, so they grow up loving it and want to make it. Indie rock isn't commonly blasted in black households.
They're trying to stronghand something that has no need to change. That's like introducing a toucan into the Sahara desert because "how unfair is that, why can't they enjoy the desert?".
>black people don't want to make indie because their own culture tries to limit them to genres like hip-hop or else risk seeming "too white"
Black people don't limit themselves, see Tobin Abasi, Dean Blunt, Julius Eastman, TV on the Radio, any black producer; what kind of loser would want to make "indie" today?
I find it amusing how the entire faculty of music journalism treats Bono's philanthropy as a negative thing.
It's like, go fuck yourselves, right?
I can't even be bothered completing my criticism now, I'm stopping.
And people will still say that Pitchfork doesn't have white guilt and gave Chief Keef or any other degenerate rapper a good review because of white guilt.
>inb4 go back to /pol/, /b/ or /v/
>tfw live in conservative area and won't have to deal with this shit
bergen bros where we at
there's no way anyone can actually rationalise this bullshit. It's obvious that the reasons of indie-rocks apparent "whiteness" for the most part elsewhere. Not because black people wont be accepted by the audiences but more likely because of acceptance issues within the black community itself. Anyone with half a brain can understand that.
>Black people don't limit themselves
>what kind of loser would want to make "indie" today?
Wow proving my fucking point.
>hurr durr why would black ppl want 2 be part of a loser whitey genre
>why are there no blacks in indie???? fuckin' racist white people
I mean, they're pretty good though. As a publication they are annoying because of how much influence they have and they often have their heads up their own asses, but their reviews are well written, even if they're stupid.
In hip-hop, black is the norm. While hip-hop and the DIY underground, historically, have been proud to disassociate themselves from popular culture, there is no divorcing a predominantly black scene from systemic ideals ingrained in black Western culture. That status quo creates a barrier in terms of both the sanctioned participation of artists of no color and the amount of respect afforded them, all of which sets people of no color up to forever be seen as interlopers and outsiders. Blackness is the very ideal for which art is made in Western culture, be it the cinema of Spike Lee or, say, the artists on GOOD Music.
>I can count on one hand the prominent performers in the independent scene that look like me.
First, I'm not surprised a Pitchfork writer in 2015 doesn't understand even the basic definition of independent, but everyone she listed is signed to at least an off-shoot of a major label, if not the major label themselves.
Second, she is obtusely ignoring the fucking meteoric rise and spread of independent hip hop thanks to the internet, and I'm not talking necessarily "conscious" shit. Migos has a mixtape entitled "No Label", and that was popular enough to spawn a sequel. This is especially confusing considering the fact that she listed rappers Heems and M.I.A. as examples of "independent" music.
Third: FKA Twigs (XL), Shabazz Palaces (Sub Pop), Toro Y Moi (Carpack), Madlib (Stones Throw), Tunde Adebimpe (4AD).
Off the top of my head, after making sure that their labels checked out as independent. As a lie of omission, she ignored many "prominent" independent artists, and that's with the bullshit moniker "prominent", which can be incredibly subjective, depending on a person's culture and worldview.
Actually, not knowing a wide range of artists might not be a lie of omission, considering she writes for Pitchfork.
Will she write a piece on the unbearable beanerness of mariachis?
the leejun doesn't forgive, I see
>mfw no one on /mu/ realizes the clever play on words in the title
shit article tho
>Blackness is the very ideal for which art is made in Western culture
We got it you moron, this is only like the fifty millionth time the same pun has been used by someone who thinks they're being oh so clever and original.
Um, butthurt is a homophobic term. Please take your problematic language elsewhere.
Pitchfork writer Larry Fitzmaurice enlightened me on this. Thanks Larry.
Literally the stupidest article I've ever read
great comments tho
historically white men have done some awful shit from a position of power and (being in a position of power) never really had to face the consequences, which is not fair, true, but holding every single person who is white acocuntable is just as dumb as saying "every black person sucks cause that one black guy sucks"
>This doesnt seem like something that be on r/adviceanimals
i wouldimagine she doesn't care much about a rape culture that actually is a culture that thrives on real life rape, she's got a lot on her plate with these darn indie bands
so the fuck what, Mongolian fucked up half the world too i dont see anyone fuckuing crying about it.
White men conquered the world and shitskins are mad as fuck.
Shit man, white man even conquered the moon, what the fuck do leftist do all day but reblog on tumblr
No, see >>54608319
It's hypocrisy but it isn't self-hating. She's trying to be all holier-than-thou thinking she's better than whitey when the only reason she's in such a position of privilege to do so is because her relatives and ancestors instituted and maintained a system far more fucked up than anything white people ever did, one that is still largely in place to this day.
that's my whole point dude
no one hates mongolians cause if you ask anybody about reparations for the damages of the mongols they'd just say "dude, that was like a thousand frikking years ago, playa"
p4k writer sarah sahim BTFO
p4k writer ned raggett BTFO
Whenever a SJW posts on /mu/ (there's a vocal minority), simply respond "nice meme" to them
If they tell you to go to /pol/, drop a "problematic" on you, etc. just simply respond nice meme
Make it clear their entire existence is a meme not even worthy of a real discussion.
U can practice with my post, here I'll start
"The lack of people of color winning Grammys this year was frightening"
>mfw getting associated with these parasites
>mfw I'm a left-liberian and keep gettin associated with you idiots
>calling other people keyboard warriors
>while keyboard warrior-ing
>White people never take accountability for the atrocities they profit off of
She's criticizing white people for there not being enough black people making music in a certain genre while her own race still considers darker-skinned people (not necessarily even African in origin) literally subhuman and does things like this:
>yfw you're a strong independent white twenty-something middleclass man who don't need no woman
>no one takes accountability for the atrocities they profit off of
you thinks jews brag about the palestinians they've killed or vice versa? what about in ingeria while a black terrorist group kills black citizens while the black president allocates funds into his own bank account and does nothing.
think before you type
it's obvoius isn't it? we're a "melting pot" i guess, with a shit load of different people of varying countries living and interacting with each other. of course we're hypersensitive to race. honestly race only matters to me up until I meet you, then you're just another person
to play the devil's advocate here, the effects of european colonialism are still evident around the world while the only ones who still suffer from mongolian conquest are the mongolians themselves and pretty much no one else
so? if all people are worth something than the descendants of those harmed by the mongols should deserve compensation, no matter how few, right?!?!
wrong, obviously. there are too many myriads of factors to place the blame for a large even on one thing even when it doesn't span generations. its not fair, but the world isn't fair, simple as that
P4K HEADLINE :" WHY ARENT WHITE PEOPLE FORCING BLACK PEOPLE TO MAKE INDIE MUSIC"
" PS IF YOU ARE WHITE YOU SHOULD HATE YOURSELF CAUSE REASONS COMPLETELY OUT OF YOUR CONTROL THAT HAPPPEND 100000000 YEARS AGO"
Can you give me a list of some Hispanic rappers dude? Thanks
funny considering p4k slaughtered M.I.A. for her political views for MAYA, views which were later validated by Snowden. But they have no problem sculpting a victim narrative around her when it suits them.
mods suck each other off then eat their own shit
Yes, /mu/ has been pretty shit since 2013-ish or so. Today it's even worse and is filled entirely with people who migrated here from /b/, almost everyone who has been here longer than that has left already.
you're a faggot too
fucking ban me already you worthless sacks of shit who do this for free
You skw s should read some actual history instead of being brain washed at your femnist lineral art studies class
The Mongolians use to launch plague infested bodies with catapults into europe, it was one of the first instances of biological warfare.
Millions of Europeans died because of that.
The Mongolians completely burned down the middle east ending the islamic golden age..
B-B-B-B-BUT ONLY WHITE PEOPLE CAN BE EVIL
How can people be so fcking biased towards something as trivial as music? They mention the stereotypical cliché of indie rock about being middle class first world problems white music, then when it comes to hip-hop is all meaningful raw message when in reality theres a lot of retarded bragging bout hoes and money, but yeah just because kendrick album came out recently and is recent, then that's the norm of the genre, ofc.
i would have replied all in this thread but im too lazy
anyway why are you discussing it here and not memeing the article on fb
>funny considering p4k slaughtered M.I.A. for
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Why are there so many Indians doing bollywood?
Why are there so many blacks in rap and hip hop?
Why are there so many blacks in jazz and blues?
Why are there so many mexicans doing mariachi?
It's almost like it's a cultural thing or sumthin...
yes, but it's not as if the mongolians are in any position of power today compared to european countries and many of their former colonies
i'm not an sjw, but this is basically how they argue. it's all about pecking orders
Here you go (I'm actually a Latino)
fuck everyone in this thread this is now a pepe thread
Fuck there really aren't any worhtelss faggot nigger retard autistic basement-dwelling man children neckbeard permavirgin mods on /mu/
PUT TRIGGER WARNINGS BEFORE YOUR POSTS YOU PIECE OF SHIT SHITLORD
As an eastern european i am still suffering from the after effects of the mongolian invasions EVERY SINGLE DAY!!! The power vacuum left in siberia and central asia after the collapse of the mongol empire provided the russian empire with easy lands to expand to which in turn made it very powerful and provided it with means to opress unrelated people's to the west of them!!!!!!!!
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i can meme too
"Iraq in 1258 was very different from present day Iraq. Its agriculture was supported by canal networks thousands of years old. Baghdad was one of the most brilliant intellectual centers in the world. The Mongol destruction of Baghdad was a psychological blow from which Islam never recovered. With the sack of Baghdad, the intellectual flowering of Islam was snuffed out. Imagining the Athens of Pericles and Aristotle obliterated by a nuclear weapon begins to suggest the enormity of the blow. The Mongols filled in the irrigation canals and left Iraq too depopulated to restore them." 
"They swept through the city like hungry falcons attacking a flight of doves, or like raging wolves attacking sheep, with loose reins and shameless faces, murdering and spreading terror...beds and cushions made of gold and encrusted with jewels were cut to pieces with knives and torn to shreds. Those hiding behind the veils of the great Harem were dragged...through the streets and alleys, each of them becoming a plaything...as the population died at the hands of the invaders." (Abdullah Wassaf as cited by David Morgan)
Its obviously white peoples fault somehow :^)
pepe started gaining a maintstream fanbase and this offended many a b-tard/s4s/etc and so they launched a campaign to enfiltherize pepe so that nobody would want to use him anymore. it's rather said :[
tbh the article is spot on. the way this indian shithead leads her way through whiteness is truly admirable but for some reason i find myself extermely aroused by her article. does anyone haButter and flour a 12 x 18 x 1-inch baking sheet.
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First question...how do we know what we truly mean by "dank meme"? The audience will refer to the specified post.
The same audience that enjoys Neutral Milk Hotel and Belle and Sebastian is apart of the audience that appreciates Kendrick Lamar and Run The Jewels. I don't see the point the writer is trying to make. I'm black and live in an ethnic neighborhood. The majority of the music I listen to is indie rock however I'm not offended by the lack of color in the genre.
Black people don't listen to indie rock = Black people won't make indie rock
I am in fact a race traitor. I identify more with the indie rock culture than with the hip-hop culture. It's not like I don't listen to and enjoy hip-hop but I could never be a hip-hop elitist like a significant majority of blacks. Pitchfork even giving attention to race at this point is just making colored people seem even more like victims than they already are.
>mfw all these non white girls feeling alienated by the unbearable whiteness of indie so they can't listen to Imagine Dragons and Mumford & Sons
I got this impression from that article, that she treats music purely as only a form of entertainment and not an art. maybe she's more "in" the music "scene" (after all her writing got published on p4k) but she doesn't want to relate to music, or feel anything from listening. Why is indie "so white", maybe because our love for melancholy and escapism? hip hop and other "non white" styles doesn't have this so much (save for jazz). But the quota have to be met fo fuck this world fuck this body
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Feel my nerves wet my brow
Mood in my tomb red moon heavy
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