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Name a better pop song than Hey Ya Protip: you can't

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Name a better pop song than Hey Ya

Protip: you can't
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It's objectively the best pop song of all time.
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my asshole going brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrptttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttrrrrrttttttttppppppppptttttttttttt
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>>54055892
ROSES YOU IJEWMINATI
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>>54055955
DUBS CONFIRMS MY CORRECTNESS
I AM THE DUBINATOR
SUCK MY MEME
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>>54055892
blink-182 has better instrumentation and song structure.
Fact.
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>>54056135
>Bar a couple power chords
>Sing about fucking dogs
>Bar some more power chords
yeah okay
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>>54055904
You mean apart from Baby Love right?
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>>54055892
"Yesterday"
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>>54055955
Probably the worst chorus of all time
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I like Dookie :3c
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>>54055892

You win this time
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That whole polaroid pitcher thing kinda loses a couple points for me.

I can give it a 9+ rating but not a 10. Sorry try again O'Pea.
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Easy. Just off the top of my head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu2zkrbR_Vg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGlR6oFjC3A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T5xWkO56GI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wREBD2og5iY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z47xJhnEOVI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7y19ED6Vrk
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>>54056248
Worse than "Hey ya, hey ya, hey ya, hey ya"???
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>>54055892
I assume we're ruling out any song made in the 60s, yeah?

Oh wait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyOYQ8qfFng
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Love Shack
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>>54056358
>I Get Around
>not Good Vibrations

come on man, this is easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6cngTn2_NY
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What makes a song a "pop" song?
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>>54056415
oh what the fuck, that's not Good Vibrations.

Still a great pop song tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eab_beh07HU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFE2SnliiV0

listen to more pop music, op

>>54056454
pop song structure - verse, chorus & bridge
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>>54055892
Til Tuesday - Voices Carry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP9DbEIm7ns
Strawberry Switchblade - Since Yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7QPBzAJ_io
Sparks - When I'm With You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcrYXWanUi8
ABBA - S.O.S.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvChjHcABPA
Dan Deacon - Feel The Lightning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2zwgUhTIPI
Len - Steal My Sunshine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sfu5QtTQzU
The Limousines - Very Busy People
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4-KHsoNgrA
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>>54055892
yo
A. G. Cook - Keri Baby
The Tammys - Egyptian Shumba
Kate Bush - Cloudbusting
My Bloody Valentine - When You Sleep
The Beach Boys - Wouldn't It Be Nice
Dolly Mixture - Remember This
Mercury Rev - Car Wash Hair
Darondo - Didn't I
Games - Strawberry Skies
The Olivia Tremor Control - Jumping Fences
Julia Holter - This is a True Heart
The Ronettes - Be My Baby
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>>54056500
>pop song structure - verse, chorus & bridge

So 90% of all music is pop?
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>>54056358
Since when did Prince allow his music on Youtube?
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>>54056248
Your opinion really smells like poo poo.
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>>54056573
In general? No.
That /mu/ talks/knows about? Yes.
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>>54056573
only if it's 90% of what you listen, there's a lot of music that don' follow this structure. almost all non-radio friendly electronic music, for example (idm, techno, etc)
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>>54056548
hi RYM
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>>54056358
Raspberry Beret is one of his worst songs and was one of the CIA's most commonly used songs to torture people
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>>54056578
It does seem like more old bands are giving up on taking their music off youtube recently
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>>54056642
Yeah, I noticed people posting Bob Dylan youtube links in the past month and I was shocked
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>>54056548
go back to tumblr
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Objectively greatest pop song of all time coming through
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>>54055892
super bass, obviously
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>>54056523
>Strawberry Switchblade

Ma niggah.
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One of the songs they play in Starbucks. I don't know the name of it. It really lifts the room and gets everyone singing/whistling the song. It's pre-2000.
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>>54056395
Yes. It's melodically weaker for a start.
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>>54056682
why would i leave /mu/ for tumblr? i love shitposting
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>>54056682
>>54056635
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>>54056769
>It's melodically weaker
Than a chorus with only four different notes arranged in only two two-measure phrases?

"Hey Ya" plebs don't realize that they only like the song because of its memes.
>shake it shake shake it like le polaroid picture xD
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>>54056872
I might have bothered trying to argue until that last bit. Ebin bro.
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>>54055892
Duran Duran - Rio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XovoAKVOPOM
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>>54055892
>Duran Duran - Planet Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLdPDCVT4EM
>The Knack - Lucinda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lfPDBKayuE
>Animotion - Obsession
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPV95CiIJFY
>Josie Cotton - Johnny Are You Queer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=457N1m4oUZw
>MGMT - Flash Delirium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBqDCNPlhTM
>Let 'Em In - Wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y0v7zpHJkU
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>>54057102
and forgot
>The Psychedelic Furs - Love My Way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGD9i718kBU
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>>54056356
The lyric is "polaroid picture"
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>>54056358
These are all worse than Hey Ya. If you had posted "Good Vibrations" then you might have had an argument
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>>54055892
literally anything by michael jackson in the late 70s-early 80s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE-dqW4uBEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbYGRflMgKQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAyADMSppaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfbn3ieVUYU
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Hey Ya will still be considered a classic in 50 years time in the same way Good Vibrations is now
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>>54057393
see >>54056872
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>>54057177
polaroid pitcher I says
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>>54057403
Hey Ya isn't a great song because of some meme only you care about, it's generally considered a modern classic by the vast majority of critics who don't even know the meaning of the word 'meme'
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>>54055892
The ladies have really low voices when he says: 'Ok now ladies!' and they answer 'Yeah?'
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Purple Rain is better
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>>54057482
Uneducated popular music reviewers are not "critics".
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>>54056500
>pop song structure - verse, chorus & bridge

Wrong.

>>54056454

All recorded music is pop music. All music that is released in Album/EP/Single format is pop music.
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>>54055892
ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT
ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT
ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT
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>>54057569
pop != popular

>>54057584
Further proof that Hey Ya is meme rap.
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LEND ME SOME SUGAR!
I AM YOUR NEIGHBOR!
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>>54057513
wouldnt when doves cry be the quintessential pop song from that album, not the title track?
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>>54057613
>meme rap

dadaistic repetition isnt a meme, its experimentation fucktard
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>>54057613
>pop != popular

"Pop" is a genre in the same way "folk" is.
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ONE TWO THREE UH
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>>54057692
Dada was meme art.

>>54057693
There is no such thing as a folk song structure, so no.
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>>54057692
burty gr8 b8 m8
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>>54057823
No, I'm saying they're not really genres.

Popular music = Pop music

Pop as a genre is just sort of a meta thing.
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>>54057869
>Popular music = Pop music
Wrong. Merzbow is popular music but is not pop. Read a Musicology 101 textbook.
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>muh memes
Isn't the memespouting testament to it being a great pop song?
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>>54056523

:(
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>>54057908
LOL, no. Merzbow is definitely pop.
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>>54058030
Musicologists often identify the following characteristics as typical of the pop music genre:

an aim of appealing to a general audience, rather than to a particular sub-culture or ideology[7]
an emphasis on craftsmanship rather than formal "artistic" qualities[7]
an emphasis on recording, production, and technology, over live performance[13]
a tendency to reflect existing trends rather than progressive developments[13]
much pop music is intended to encourage dancing, or it uses dance-oriented beats or rhythms[13]
The main medium of pop music is the song, often between two and a half and three and a half minutes in length, generally marked by a consistent and noticeable rhythmic element, a mainstream style and a simple traditional structure.[22] Common variants include the verse-chorus form and the thirty-two-bar form, with a focus on melodies and catchy hooks, and a chorus that contrasts melodically, rhythmically and harmonically with the verse.[23] The beat and the melodies tend to be simple, with limited harmonic accompaniment.[24] The lyrics of modern pop songs typically focus on simple themes – often love and romantic relationships – although there are notable exceptions.[7]

Harmony in pop music is often "that of classical European tonality, only more simple-minded."[25] Clichés include the barbershop harmony (i.e. moving from a secondary dominant harmony to a dominant harmony, and then to the tonic) and blues scale-influenced harmony.[26] There was a lessening of the influence of traditional views of the circle of fifths between the mid-1950s and the late 1970s, including less predominance for the dominant function.[27]

Are you ready to stop being ignorant?
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>>54057823
You're a fucking meme.
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>>54056358
Kiss from a Rose is the only contender here
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>>54058090
It's a meaningless vague term and not a real genre.
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>>54058226
Literally every genre ever.
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>>54056135
IT'S CHRISTMAS EVE AND I'VE ONLY WRAPPED TWO FUCKING PRESENTS
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>>54058226
>meaningless
Musicologists often identify the following characteristics as typical of the pop music genre:

an aim of appealing to a general audience, rather than to a particular sub-culture or ideology[7]
an emphasis on craftsmanship rather than formal "artistic" qualities[7]
an emphasis on recording, production, and technology, over live performance[13]
a tendency to reflect existing trends rather than progressive developments[13]
much pop music is intended to encourage dancing, or it uses dance-oriented beats or rhythms[13]
The main medium of pop music is the song, often between two and a half and three and a half minutes in length, generally marked by a consistent and noticeable rhythmic element, a mainstream style and a simple traditional structure.[22] Common variants include the verse-chorus form and the thirty-two-bar form, with a focus on melodies and catchy hooks, and a chorus that contrasts melodically, rhythmically and harmonically with the verse.[23] The beat and the melodies tend to be simple, with limited harmonic accompaniment.[24] The lyrics of modern pop songs typically focus on simple themes – often love and romantic relationships – although there are notable exceptions.[7]

Harmony in pop music is often "that of classical European tonality, only more simple-minded."[25] Clichés include the barbershop harmony (i.e. moving from a secondary dominant harmony to a dominant harmony, and then to the tonic) and blues scale-influenced harmony.[26] There was a lessening of the influence of traditional views of the circle of fifths between the mid-1950s and the late 1970s, including less predominance for the dominant function.[27]
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>>54058350
Yeah, you can keep reposting that. Doesn't change the fact that pop music as a genre is just meta-popular music and essentially the same thing.
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>>54056358
>Cat Stevens

He was inspired by Simon and Garfunkle and the Beatles from what I remember. A folk musician with a 60's pop sound.
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>>54055892
YA HEY
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what's cooler than being cool?
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>>54058396
>pop music as a genre is just meta-popular music
False. There is popular music which is not pop music. If you don't believe this, post a musicologist who agrees with you.

>>54058457
ICE MEMES
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>>54055892
Literally one of the worst pop songs of all time.
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>>54058934
>False. There is popular music which is not pop music.

Not really.
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>>54058457
ICE COLD
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>>54056358
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>>54058989
Name the musical characteristics listed by musicologists in >>54058350 which are present in Merzbow's music, and cite examples.
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>>54058979
Le b8 memes
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>>54056135
>blink-182 has better instrumentation and song structure.
>Fact.
blink-182 has better instrumentation and song structure.
Fact.
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>>54059141
How is it b8? The song actually sucks. The best part of the song is the what's cooler than being cool part. Everything else is garbage.
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>ctrl+f
>huey lewist
>no results
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB5YkmjalDg
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This isn't related to OP but i love when elitist music snobs use the phrase "it's a solid pop song!" to show how ironically eclectic and open minded they are

But yes hey ya is the GOAT
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>>54059370
Somebody's projecting.
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>>54055892
The Butthole Surfers - Pepper
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>>54056523
Yeah, S.O.S. And Dancing Queen are GOAT.
Like people are saying, Good Vibrations is insane. Billie Jean is insane. There're some Stevie Wonder songs that are up there. Some Prince songs. Windowlicker by Aphex Twin, if you want to stretch your definition of pop. Total Eclipse of the Heart. Hey Ya is very good. Up there with the best of pop music.
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