You could say the same about genre-jumping Jethro Tull and they're loved by most young prog dudes. Prognards remember that Thick as a Brick was ironic parody. Still their best album in spite of that prick Anderson.
Genesis biggest problem at the time was poor production values imo. Whether it was money or just inexperienced engineers they're pretty muddy records. I think Trespass is the best thing they put out. lol if you think anything after gabriel left is worth a shit. Banks is still one of the best keyboardists of all time, but he couldn't keep that train wreck together by himself.
Any album this slippery nigga was on (except for Asia lol)
I guess I should have worded it different. Most albums in a band he's in is great. But he's also released great solo stuff( Not Necessarily Acoustic, The Haunted Melody, Steve Howe Remedy, Time) a lot of his solo stuff is in fact shit though. Like the homebrew series is godawful.
Larks and Red i can understand, but why does everybody love Discipline so much? First time i heard it i was so dissapointed, it's just some trippy Tony Levin basslines with generic 80s guitar effects on top.
Anyway, nothing beats ITCOTCK
Because Discipline is a fantastic album. It's the African-influenced polyrhythms that make it so impressive. So many times in that era, the guitars are just playing in different time signatures from each other. It's really impressive and the music is also just killer. And no, plenty of prog albums beat ITCOCK. Get your /mu/drone shite outta here
its pretty ok i approve of this
just remove pink floyd and rush and save yourself some time since they are not really prog
can also add more gentle giant, more magma more soft machine and maybe some return to forever
first of all i don't even know what /mu/drone is so lick my ass-crack.
if Discipline's only about the time signatures, then that's not really that interesting. There's more to music than just trying to be unique.
Not only ITCOTCK but even Islands and Lizard are better than fucking any 80s King Crimson, or any 80s music for that matter
>he doesnt like 80s King Crimson
I wasnt saying theyre just good because of the time signatures, you just said " it's just some trippy Tony Levin basslines with generic 80s guitar effects on top." and I was pointing out that you are objectively wrong as to what the substance is. Whether you like it or not is up to you, but you asked why people liked it and I pointed out that there are some very interesting ideas put into place in that album/era. I like 70s King Crimson, but Islands and Lizard better than Discipline? lol
This is the superior chart
Gnosis2000 > ProgArchives
What do you mean?
It's a good album, and I like it a lot, but if you commpare it to every other album on the chart it makes sense why it isn't there.
Might as well put in my top 10 since I'm a faggot
1. CTTE- Yes
2.Third Soft Machine
3. Larks- King Crimson
4. TFTO- Yes
5.ITCOTCK- King Crimson
6.Future Days- Can
8. self titled- An Endless Sporadic
9. In the Land of Gray and Pink- Caravan
10. Red Queen to Gryphon Three- Gryphon
Special Mention goes to The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles and Fripp
>almost everything mentioned here is from the 70s
Come on, there's some great new stuff as well
1. Cardiacs - Sing to God
2. Tipographica - God Says I Can't Dance
3. Yowie - Cryptooology
4. World's End Girlfriend - Seven Idiots
5. You Slut! - Critical Meat
6. Sajjanu - Pechiku!!
7. Koenjihyakkei - Angherr Shisspa
8. Jordan Rudess - Feeding The Wheel
9. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico
10. Rhun - Fanfare du Chaos
11. Yes - Close to the Edge
12. Ahleuchatistas - What You Will
13. The Fiery Furnaces - Blueberry Boat
14. Gentle Giant - Free Hand
15. Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
16. Upsilon Acrux - Volucris Avis
17. Faust - Faust
18. Rich Woodson's Ellipsis - Control and Resistance
19. Dream Theater - Metropolis Part 2
20. Henry Cow - In Praise of Learning
21. 5uu's - Hunger's Teeth
22. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
23. Gong - Flying Teapot
24. Mong Hang - Debakata
25. Perhaps - Volume One
>The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles and Fripp
Is it actually good?
It's okay, we all make mistakes.
>still no Koenjihyakkei
Because it's great IMO
Or this one which has Magma who are far superior Zeuhl band
Can't speak for PF, but Rush are actually Prog.
Does it actually sound like Proto- ITCOTCK?
>two motW albums
>two PT albums
>still no Koenjihyakkei
Also, K.A. was written in the 70s, so I don't think it fits on the chart.
Gallifrey confirmed for not being objective enough.
It's a Prog Archives chart, not a Prog chart.
Because they are allowed to rate stuff that was influential on Prog.
Still, Gnosis2000 is better in any possible way.
This is slowly turning into one of my favourites, and dear god how amazing this is after a few listens
Listening to this for the first time, thoughts?
I feel it will require multiple listens for true appreciation
You can, at least relatively more objective (or unbiased). Putting two albums from your favorite band in a essential chart is definitely not being objective.
Nope. Will try to listen to it today.
Diana is one of the objectively best songs ever. The chorus is extremely powerful.
Can we all agree that Hatfield and the North are the best Canterbury Scene band by a comfortable margin?