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>get out mom I'm recording edition
Post the tracks you're working on, discuss general music production. Learn why oceangrunge is shit and why I can't listen to music while using ASIO.

Stuff:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles and stuff
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q

>/prod/ wiki - looking for contributors (wink, wink)
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com/wiki//mu/sic_Production_Wiki
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>>53007861
please please please fuck off
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I'm currently having some problems with ableton and was wondering if someone could help me out

I've been using this free pulse modulator VST and it's totally awesome except today I can't hear the effect anymore through the monitors unless it's recording. Nothing is different except I added an audio interface that my headphones are now plugged into instead of going straight into my computer lie before. It's really bugging me and I can't tell what's going on, can anyone help?
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>>53007861
You are literally a piece of shit

these threads are nice stop shoving your fist in our butts with this garbage
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>>53007922
Are you using asio drivers or asio4all?
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>>53007991
>garbage
No.
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>>53007992
I think ASIO, when I bought my focusrite scarlett it gave me a link and I downloaded it from their website
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>>53007922
You said you can't hear it through the monitors unless its recording.

Can you hear it through the headphones without recording?
Do other tracks without the effect play fine?
Does the timeline have to be playing for the effect to work?
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>>53008053
can't hear it through headphones, other tracks without the effect play fine. it's not even like i can't hear this track with the effect on it, and i can even tell a difference when the effect is on or off, but it just doesn't sound at all like it does when recording is enabled

i am almost positive this effect worked without the timeline playing before, but maybe not
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>>53007547
Shot you an email, man.
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>>53008136
but it does work when i just let the timeline run. is it common for effects not to work right unless the timeline is running?
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https://clyp.it/0bh3xzkw
threw this baby together in fl
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>>53008269
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>>53008269
pretty stale, could use more background sound and treble in your sample choices

But in all honesty this idea could go somewhere if it was given a sonic makeover
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>>53008183
Yeah some effects do this. If you other tracks are playing fine, then its probably not a driver or interface issue but an issue with the effect itself.

Sometimes you have to start the timeline on an even bar, not just anywhere, for these midi synced effects to sound right.

What you could do is make a new audio track and set the input of that track to be the other track with the effect on it. And then hit record and see if you can get it to sound the way it's supposed to sound. Then you have an audio file of the proper sound effect, though you cant really tweak it the same.
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What headphones do all you guys use? For the longest time I've been stuck with some $20 Sony earbuds and I've never had any complaints.

Just wondering if there is something out there that producers hail as being really great.
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>>53008355
>What headphones do all you guys use? For the longest time I've been stuck with some $20 Sony earbuds and I've never had any complaints.
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>Just wondering if there is something out there that producers hail as being really great.
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>>53008387
>>>53008355
>>What headphones do all you guys use? For the longest time I've been stuck with some $20 Sony earbuds and I've never had any complaints.
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>>Just wondering if there is something out there that producers hail as being really great.
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>>53008355

according to the "mixing secrets for the small studio" book you dont get much more quality when you buy the most expensive headphones, and all you need is a decent pair and you're fine.

I use AKG K-44 or K-55s, they're comfy as fuck for long periods and fairly cheap. been using them for years.

Recorded some vocal parts for a /mu/tant collaboration today. should be a nice track
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How do I get my sounds to be more stereo?
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>>53008510
use a stereo widening effect

>>53008355
got dem MDR-V6's bruh. 80$ well spent.
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>>53008355
>$20 Sony earbuds
Post your music, I wanna know what a mix sounds like on headphones that shitty.
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This is at RBMA. What kind of track do you think she is making?
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>>53008676
>mac
a LGBT anthem
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https://clyp.it/tdctai5m
get that money
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>>53008676

Ableton
Arturia Minibrute
Moog simulator VST

shit this lady has my rig.
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>>53008676
brb gonna try to recreate the melody on her screen. will return with results.
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>>53008510
>>53008605

be careful, stereo widening plugins can screw you if you already have stuff panned wide
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>>53008355
it doesn't matter since you don't want to be relying on them anyway for your mixing duties. decent monitors (decent is all you need btw) + room treatment is what you need to be worrying about.
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>>53008772
how do i go about room treatment? Just put blankets everywhere?
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>>53008676
>not watching the army of reptile lizard gender changing army the president has in his command right now
>not having the '9/11 was an inside job' ableton theme
yeah i dont think she's for me
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https://clyp.it/o5fek3sg
just started using beat slicer
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>>53008821
>>53008821
there's a science to it and i recommend using google but low frequencies will most likely be your biggest enemy so you will want to make that a priority. look up the term "bass traps" with regard to this subject.
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>>53008896
>>53008756
>>53008708
https://clyp.it/fz3na2p0
she's on to something if you ask me
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I need some music theory on disco or funk
any links?
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>>53008942
Neat
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>>53009154
You should just listen to more disco and funk. I don't think it helps to have a calculative approach to making music like that; you just do it.
>get funky
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>>53008676
>sugar free redbull

yeah no
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>>53009247
>you just do it.
thanks for the advice
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>>53009273
Apparently that's what everyone drinks at RBMA. I don't think they have a choice.
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>>53009282
Apologies. I don't know much about theory but the funkier stuff probably involves major 7th chords.
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>>53009302
what even is red bull music academy? would it be worth it to be associated with them? i feel like all of that shit is just a waste of money
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>>53009247
>stacking records

not even once
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>>53007834
Two things to post that aren't from my actual releases.

My music is usually experimental ambient shit but I love making dance music.

Acid sounding bit
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u5j5wlbgstyaa30/acidic.wav?dl=0

Bootleg of Break Da Law 95 by Three 6 Mafia
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nafun5tzfsn4657/it%20aint%20no%20thang%20bootleg.wav?dl=0

Any advice? Besides of course quit music
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>>53008605
>>53008765
any other methods? I'm not trying to use an effect, but I will. I would just like to have sounds be really wide, how do sounds get like that anyway?
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>>53009154
6th chords, major 7ths as well. mixolydian using the V chord pretty well so that it doesn't sound too much like a V chord but still gives off the V vibe. i like disco and funk as well, but i haven't gone too in depth with it.

also i think there might be a use of 4ths and 11ths on chords a good bit, but subtle. this may be more jazz fusion though, especially chord progs sounding like they go up in 4ths.
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>>53009081
she's really got a knack for catchy tunes huh?
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>>53009362
If I understand correctly, they pay for everything.

And I think it would be totally worth it. Look it up and see what they do. They actually should have applications up by now for RBMA 2015 but they don't for some reason.
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what does /prod/ think of these speakers i picked up today? is 50 watt amp my best choice or should i go high/lower
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>>53009547
fuck you
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>>53009386
Duplicate a track, delay it by 15 or more milliseconds, apply very small amount of pitch modulation, sine wave or random, maybe on both tracks if its not too noticeable. Pan first track to one side and duplicate track to the other side. That's a pretty basic way to do it.
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>>53009443
those speakers are fine man! generally you should go higher than 50-watt, but the trick is to make sure the amp is rated 50-watt continuous (NOT 50W peak!). As a general rule it's good to have an amp that runs 2x (or more) power than your speakers want. this allows you to get clean optimal audio out of it without stressing it. this also means you can blow the speakers if you crank it all the way up, but that's always true.

i would look for a 100W (continuous, per channel, into 6Ω) amp, or maybe if you find one that only publishes "peak" it should probaby be no less than 150W per channel into 6Ω.
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>>53009547
not a soundcloud thread
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>>53009376
this is not a dropbox thread

lol just kidding, props on not using SC
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>>53008664
Sorry for the delay I've been working on what I'm posting right now.

http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/OvLjowhm/file.html
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/ZwvjD8I1/file.html

Currently working with a rapper and I'm about to send him these tracks.

Didn't know which site to use to upload either since it wasn't in OP's post.
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>>53009578
yea, I do the second method alot, it seems to help
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>>53009547
Hello there friend, you seem to be mistaken. This is not a soundcloud thread. This is /prod/ meaning we pride ourselves in not having the passive feeling of "Hey maybe if I post my soundcloud and put myself out there, I will get more known and people will like my music and I will have fans and friends". Instead we use clyp.it or any other form of rather anonymous posting of WIPs and the like because this is a thread for questions and in context conversation. You are more than welcome to post here, but please do it with purpose. You will not gain anything here by posting your soundcloud other than a bunch of people telling you to fuck off. I love you

-lil b
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>>53009568
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>reading on synthesis
>spend all day trying to get a good sound
>make a beautiful lush pad that'd blow your mind on accident
>made a decent melody
>try to tweak the sound a little
>ableton freezes
>load the previous set
>the sound is now just a laggy buzz and i can't fix it
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>>53009673
I like this post
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>>53009376
Try adding some reverb on your lead and also try adding some accompaniment under your lead to give it depth and melody.

Reminds me of 90's dance music just with a little less depth but still holding some modern elements.
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>>53009707
god damn, I've lost fucking masterpieces thanks to my shitty computer freezing
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If someone was prepared to pay you well to produce and record their album, but the music is so obnoxious and fatiguing that its hard to get through a single song, would you agree anyway?
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>>53009614
Also I should note that when you listen to sound files on zippyshare it will sound compressed, so I recommend dl'ing it to get the pure mp3
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>>53009787
of course, at the end I gain experience and money no matter how shitty the music is
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>>53009614
listening to these on my shitty computer monitors (with shitty sub) but they sound pretty good. maybe a tad bass heavy but not bad considering.
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>>53009787
are you asking me to produce and record your album?
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>>53009829
Hmm. But I feel like you have to enjoy it to some degree to make something that's actually good.

>>53009884
Yes. sent ;)
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>>53009820
use clyp.it
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>>53009831
Thanks, I'm trying to make the beats more complicated but it's difficult not to over-complicate the song so that the rapper can flow nicely over it

Like if you've ever listened closely to Shabba by A$AP Ferg then you know how lacking in complexity hip hop can be
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What scale is most psychadelic music played in ?
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>>53009950
im curious, where/when did the ''sent ;)'' meme get created?
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>>53010148
in these very threads
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>>53010064
even if you're not playing guitar, /gg/ might be the best place to ask
i think david gilmour plays in mixylodian
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>>53009950
received ;)
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>>53010220
>implying david gilmour plays psychedelic music
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so is there any rappers in here that want a beat or two? I'm getting tired of running out of ideas to make a song develop over time, and with hiphop/rap, that usually isn't the case
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>>53010291
i would if i knew how to write rap lyrics. i mean, i can, i just have to p- put in the time. Also I'm white so im sure it won't sound fitting.
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>>53010332
>implying white people can't rap

Then why the fuck is all this El-P, Action Bronson, Aesop Rock shit praised so highly?

Don't doubt yourself man, unless you really, honestly, suck ass.
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>>53010411
I still don't know who el-p is, I'm chekcing this guy out
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>>53010411
speaking about white rappers i cant believe mac ''memester'' miller go through the metamorphosis that he did. went from justin beiber of rap to being kind of euphoric but admittedly good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-R47DwZWkU
>enlightened by his own intelligence
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>>53010468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elafeeA3QFE

he's the obviously not black sounding guy on this track
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>>53010579
He's full of shit, he thinks he's some swaggy white asap mob member and I can't take anything he says seriously.

If you heard any average white guy that sounds like him you'd immediately rule him out as a fake negro wannabe. It's bullshit.
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hey prod baby have a taste of my mcCHICken
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>>53010769
now hold up, what is that sequencer thing behind the sandwich
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>>53010769
enjoy your meal bro. or as I would say in my mother tongue 'buen provecho'
nice (im assuming) synth + sequencer combo, jelly af
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>>53010841
it says korg electribe right on it
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>>53010769
>dat ms2000r
jelly
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>>53010769
0/10 toes too long
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>>53010874
>>53010923
>electribe
You had me thinking i was tripping for a second mofo
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>>53010769
damn that setup fowl bro
looks like a tasty combo to make fowl influenzed beats on
show us a clyp dont be chicken
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>>53010841
>>53010856
it's an ms2000r, i've never used it as a sequencer cus i do everything thru midi but the mod seq is pretty fun and cool.

>>53010934
post your toes fagit! I bet you don't have cute ones or.. or.. anything!! do you!?

>>53010923
>>53010989
ty, most of this is from the ms2000r https://clyp.it/ksruknv3
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Been trying to make my music sound less boring, especially the percussion, thoughts? Suggestions?

https://clyp.it/qwlx1pnv
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>>53011152
>https://clyp.it/ksruknv3
Damn this is a jam
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>>53011152
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>>53011152
Dope stuff man
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>>53011278
where's your pinkey toe's toe nail!?

>>53011257
>>53011281
thanks
>tfw you will never find a cute girl to sing over your mid fi synth songs.
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>>53011392
Have you tried craigslist?
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>>53011152
that's it, I'm making a synthpop song
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>>53009609
SC is awful to use and it makes my tracks sound bad to me lol

>>53009752
Thank you ill try that. Currently running mostly hardware so I have some limitations I'm working around but thanks for the listen.
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Can anyone recommend some good music making programs?
I'm stuck with fuck shit mixcraft right now.
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>>53011235
>https://clyp.it/qwlx1pnv
your percussion is ok, maybe with your synths, program more patches , stuff that compliments your track.
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>tfw your music sounds better to you as low bitrate MP3s than FLAC
should i just go full hipster and only release my music on lo-bit labels?
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>>53011581
Ableton is the best horizontal track based DAW right now. Renoise is the best vertical track based (or simply called a 'tracker') DAW right now.

Others include but are not limited to Pro Tools, FL Studio, Sunvox, Sonar, Cubase, Logic, Reason, MuLab. That's in descending order from most shit to least shit, but they're all shit.
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>>53011438
yeah, i did but no luck. i still have hope though. before i moved one of the best bands i was ever in i met through craigslist. we still keep in touch and jam when i visit. I doubt this kinda thing happens often to other people though, I just got lucky and am friendly and like to jam
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>>53011659
idk who told you this, but its wrong
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anybody have a scarlett 2i2 and a sm57 that wants to do a quick recording of an acoustic instrument or their voice with?
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>>53011235
I think the percussion is good, with the snare stabs and hihat delay and stuff. That's all cool. The synth line makes it boring I think though. If you wanted to keep it the way it is, you could emphasize the hell out of the "and" that you have before all the new synth notes. Like how it goes, "one, two, three, four AND, one, two,..." Or you could just make the synth more interesting instead of just having it hold and not change, maybe put an envelope on it so it can change when each note is held.
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>>53011659
Nice one nerd
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>>53011709
>>53011757
Can I get some answers here fellas?
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If anyone is looking for the cheapest way to start recording acoustic music, the M-audio producer mic is fucking incredible for the price, only 99 bucks. Everything on my soundcloud except for the most recent song (I upgraded to a full setup this week) was recorded with this little beast.

https://soundbutt.com/cameronpocock/cameron-pocock-welcome-home

https://soundbutt.com/cameronpocock/a-pain-in-the-chest-a-light-in

https://soundbutt.com/cameronpocock/cameron-pocock-drama-queen-the-new-amsterdams-cover
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>>53011803
>inb4 this is not a soundcloud thread
This anon is just trying to be helpful by reposting this >>53011005 here. No need to bomb him.
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>>53011803
>soundbutt.com
Did you really fuck up this badly?
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>>53011803
Here's a picture of the mic (I thought I had it attached in the original post).
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>>53011875
Fuck... PDA: change butt to cloud kindly.
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>>53011794
Well Ableton is a fucking great program. If you're fine with a learning curve, I'd say get on Ableton because in the end it's worth it. Reason is really fun to learn on though. Cubase is very powerful, but its the kinda program you use if your gonna hook a big mixer up to it and you have a separate control room and all that shit, besides Pro Tools of course. These are the only ones I've used.
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>>53011875
>2015
>not using soundbutt.com
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>>53011979
>ableton
>learning curve
A curve that is destroyed by the pastebin and reading Ableton's manual. A rule of thumb; always RTFM! It will chop your DAW mastery time to bits.
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>>53011722
I will by saturday
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>>53011794
The anon up there pretty much gave it to you straight; except for all other DAWs being shit. About all of those DAWs have free demos that you can try. I recommend you atleast try Fruity Loops and Ableton and pick the one you feel most comfortable it. Pro Tools and Cubase are very similar so try whichever (or don't).

Maybe you should give Renoise a try, so you could see what using a tracker feels like. You might like the workflow more. If you feel you're still not comfy in none of those you could also try Reason which is very good because it teaches you how synths and effects and racks connect visually, not just a setting on a drop down box.
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>>53012163
I forgot to say, it depends on what YOU want to do. Make bleeps? Record live instruments/vocals? Bit of both? From there on in you pick the DAW with the workflow you like most.
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is it easier making synth with keyboard synthesizer? i'm tired of all this mouse clicking and want to do some hands on shit cause th mouse clicking is hella boring. also do the the keyboard synthesizers or just synthesizers get as buck wild and make cool as sounds like software synths?
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>>53012163
Another option I would recommend (which I am using currently, as well as Pro Tools on my other computer) is reaper. It's really feature-rich and you can try it free for 60 days. Even if you don't want to use it in the long run, it's a good start because its pretty close in features to the major DAWS and downloads almost instantly because it's so small. It's also only sixty bucks to buy, which is great if you like it. I record mostly acoustic music and it works great for that.
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>>53011794
Finding a comfortable workflow is pretty important so just try everything. Also, personally, I find that with workflow faster does not always mean better, sometimes the more hoops you have to jump through to get something done makes you stop and think why you're doing it or how it could be done differently.
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>>53012232
software is just easier and more powerful per dollar than hardware. you're gonna have to actually learn how to play a keyboard if you want to abandon the piano roll altogether.
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>>53012232
you can buy a prophet 12 and make some cool as fuck sounds with it. it will also be intuitive as fuck with all those knobs and mod options. but a prophet 12 is like fucking 2000 bucks and you can pirate most soft synths that are worth anything.

If you really wanna turn knobs (which i prefer myself) get some kind of controller with knobs and sliders and then assign that controller to parameters in your soft synths. hardware synths are awesome and fun, but it all depends on what you wanna get out of it and how much money you can spend. you can do most normal stuff with soft synths that you can do with analog, it's mainly the aesthetic and that a lot of analog synths have some character that makes them kinda unique from each other, like if you were to compare a DSI vs an oberheim, the oberheim will have this more natural brassy, round sound, where the dsi will probably sound a tad thinner in comparrison. sorry if this is a lot, kinda drunk.
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>>53012416
well i was already gonna get a keyboard and rehash on my piano skills so thats not a problem. i hate the constant clicking and it takes forevr to experiment with sounds and it seems easier and faster to do with a synthesizer. it's just with all the youtube videos i see of people making sounds with synthesizers it's literally like bleeops and bloops and sawy sounds noting really good or cool sounding like you'd get out of a software synth
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>>53012444
seriously? i could a controller up to massive or absynth? sounds incrediblycomplicated
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>>53012494
if you plan to use software synths and dont really care for the lame restrictive bleeps and bloops some of the reasonably priced, affordable synths have, then simply get a good midi controller, bro. They're way cheaper. One with plenty of knobs and faders and maybe pads too.
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Any ESQ-1 owners on here? Do you make dungeon synth with it?
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>>53012571
I mean, it's as complicated as you want to make it, You could just assign knobs to those quick edit parameters in massive or anything else. the routing you'd be mouse clicking in obviously, but mouse clicking for routing is not any more mundane than hardware. it's really all about the knobs and the parameters you like to fuck around with.
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>>53012571
Not him, but YES!

I'll have you know that Waldorf Largo lets you map literally every single parameter within the program. Every fucking parameter. Other programs its kind of annoying because there can be important things that aren't midi assignable, like toggle buttons and switches. I actually spent a lot of time organizing all of the Largo parameters on my Novation sl mkII so that I could pull the keyboard away from the screen and control the synth fully without having to look at the screen at all. I even labeled my midi controller with pieces of paper because I thought I was gonna use Largo all the time from then on. I don't.
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>>53012594
well it's just the videos i see is just bleeps and bloops but i see some people studios and feel like there's waaaay more to hardware. looks ten times more interesting than sitting on my left clicking for hours on end just don't know if it's worth the money
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>>53012723
damn that's fucking tight. i'm bouta check that shit out thanks for the info bro
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>>53012723
and btw, if anyone uses a Novation sl mkII variant and has Largo or wants to get it, I can give you a copy of the pretty well organized control map I made (it took a lot of time to do)
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Man I wish Ableton Sampler could do warping.
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>>53012723
Hey man I'm about to get a novation launchkey 49, used for about $170. Its gonna be my first midi controller with knobs, faders and pads, I already have a 88 key Yamaha that has midi but only in keys, no controls. Plus the 49 fits on my desk.

Do you think the SL mkii is enough of an upgrade to be worth the extra $$?
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>>53012723
so is the largo shit? amazon says they're out of stock and that the package weighs 488oz
>on a downloable item
WTF do they send you the install on a pen drive or someshit
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>>53011803
>soundbutt
my sides have been sucked into a black hole 240.05 Mly away
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>>53013392
Eh depends on how you produce. Honestly I hardly use the buttons and knobs on my SL mkII. It's only really useful if you plan to move the keyboard away from the screen because then it offers you plenty of control. Otherwise it can be just easier to use your mouse. If you wanted to do a live performance and do some fancy production stuff on the fly, then yeah it could really be helpful. Even so, the launchkey could probably handle that to a degree.

>>53013440
Huh, thats weird. I pirated it though.
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