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SYNTH GENERAL

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Hardware, Software, Mono, Poly, Modular, Modern, Retro, Analog, Digital, all are welcome!
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>tfw no serge
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>tfw no mpc2000

its not even a synth
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>>50133646
thoughts on the upcoming korg electribe sampler?
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>>50133231
>tfw no synth
It's the same as plugging in a keyboard into a DAW, r-right guys? R-Right?
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>>50133671
um it came be-ish. many VSTs are super powerful though. i know hardware is fun but dont over look them
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not a synth but still
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>>50133666
have not seen it
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>>50133231
does anyone have a microwave xt
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>>50133720
theres only a shitty promo video atm but its a sampler/ sample sequencer with effects and it looks like its going to be around the 500 dollar mark. im just excited if it works well
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>>50133769
I just want an mpd2000
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Any experience w/ pic related?
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on 4*2 channel there's a board for producers/makers-whatever
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>>50133769
speaking of samplers I really want an Electron Octatrack. anyone have one? suggestions for alternatives?? thx
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>>50133740
only used one once but it seemed cool

>>50133782
fair enough. mpcs just get costly after all the upgrades

>>50133786
very rudimentary but nice sounding. too bad youll probably never find one for a good price these days
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>>50133813
shit, i want an octatrack so bad. thats why i mentioned the above korg thing as a cheaper alt. (but so much less features)
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>>50133786
yeah ace synth if you like the 101 sound, you can detune the second osc to make larry heard bass and also it has an audio in so you can route stuff thru the filters easily
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>>50133860
are you an american that heard a streets album once and thought it was cool?
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>>50133793
There's almost no traffic on there, which isn't surprising really, but it would be interesting if it actually takes off. Also why is √64 banned, it's not like reddit is banned from using their name.

>tfw no bros to discuss dissonance on the musician board with
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>>50133892
no i'm a brit, altho i've not used an sh-2 since 91 or something cos i only borrowed it off my mate darrell for a bit and then i dunno what happened to it

but those are the things i rem anyway
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>>50133851
i know that feel :( it's like everything I want in a sampler. might get a used sp555 instead
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>>50134109
sp's are pretty cool. i had a sp202 and still have a sp404sx. the octatrack is just so user friendly for live and has so many features which i why i really want one. elektron is good with mapping out the features and with their screen layouts as well.
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>>50134210
1 day anon :(
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I picked up a Minibrute as my first hard synth, easily my favorite "dont focus and fuck around" piece of kit. Recording and processing it in Ableton is more joyful than fatherhood.
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>>50133231
should i buy the volcas
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anyone have access virus? if so how is it compared to the most popular software synths?
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>>50135784
Do you have a midi keyboard with 5-pin DIN? Then yes.

Do you get buttmadd about people calling things toys, and are too serious about music to have fun with it? Then no.
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>>50136077
No. Idk.
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>>50135784

I'm planing on getting a Volcabeat myself, I was impressed most by the sound but the features are decent. I really want a TR-606 but can't justify dropping $600 on something that's basically a toy.

Also I want to get an Arturia Beatstep because a 16 step sequencer with as many features as it has with CV, MIDI, and USB, for $100 is just too good to pass up.

I'm hoping to make some interesting lo-fi synth music by using the beatstep to clock a Volcabeats while sequencing a little VCO I made.

With a few effects I could have a real nifty little rig for under $400
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>>50135752

I have one too, the setup is a little bit different than most synths but after you get used to it it's really easy to dial up a good sound.
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>>50135752
this thing is amazing! I remember getting one of the first units. Great synth only problem I have with it is that the filter would sometimes turn itself off

(at 0:20)
https://soundcloud.com/ben-g-9/minibrute1-filter-failure
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>>50136187
>little VCO I made
What is it? A kit or a circuit you found? How well does it respon to v/oct?
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>>50136373

It's a Voice of Saturn, it's a kit and there's like a dozen versions out.
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>>50136453
Yeah, I'm pretty familiar
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>>50136187
>>50136453
that sounds awesome. is there a link I could have for any music you've made, or someway i could be notified when you put the lo-fi stuff out
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>>50136550

Ill probably post it in another thread, most of the stuff I do is geetar music but I'm really into old synth music like Cauldron and Silver Apples and I'm hoping to get more into stuff like that.

Right now I have in the way of synth equipment is a Minibrute.
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>tfw ordered vermona mono lancet

First analog. can't wait to try it out.
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>>50136618

What are you using with that? CV keyboard? Sequencer?
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>>50136705
For now my midi keyboard. I'm gonna find a way to sequence it with my vst's in my DAW tho.
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>>50136736
See >>50136187

Beatstep nigga.
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>>50136745
Looks pretty cool, might buy it when i get my next paycheck
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>>50136618
>Ordered a Microkorg a few months ago so I could finally start making music.
>Months pass
>mfw I still can't be assed to set up Ableton and start working.
Reading your post made me feel guilty.
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>>50136857
Just jam on it, or play with records
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>>50136857
Getting to know a DAW is pretty exhausting but also rewarding even though you won't get tracks done the first day.

Just jump into it anon, after a while you'll start to see results. It feels great.
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>>50136453
anyone know of anything like this that is a sine oscillator?
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>>50137093
Why sine? That's the most boring thing you could possibly use.
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>>50137093
Well-tracking sine oscillators are non-trivial to create. They also have no harmonics so they're not especially useful for subtractive synthesis. Quadrature oscillators like the doepfer A-143-9 or the Intellijel Dr. Octature are the best sines you'll get these days in the analog realm.
If you want to play with sines, get an additive or FM synth like the K5000, DX7 etc. Digital does it better.
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>>50135784
they're OK but if I were you I would save up for something more substantial
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>>50136857
it can be annoying it took me a few days how to figure out my recording setup but you gotta do it at some point
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I love my volca keys. simple synth, but sounds good and is fun to use.

3 of the keys on my Alesis Ion don't work. I'm pretty sure I just need to clean the contacts, Anyone have any experience with fixing an Ion?
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>>50137453
I jsut want a sine source with frequency control as a small piece of hardware, without going into the modular realm. i know it's a dumb specific request but it would be great for what i have in mind and in tandem with my other equipment. i have been using apps on my iphone as sine sources lol
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>>50137093
get an fm synth
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>>50137277

It sounds sprooky
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>>50137587
Not the ion, but I've done keybeds before. You need to take the whole keybed apart, including the keys off. There's usually little bubble contacts that you need to take off, and clean with isopropyl alcohol. 90% is fine, but 99% isn't much more expensive, so I always use that. Reassemble the keybed and let it dry for an hour. Then place it back inside and try it out.

Works like 90% of the time.
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>>50135752
this or the microbrute?
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guys please check this SICK ASS music making thing
it'll make you drop beats like crazy in 5 minutes!!
http://www.drdrum.com/
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>>50137277
seriously?
>>50138231
lmao
>>50138033
minibrute.
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Want to get a synth but something forgotten from the 90s something that has potential. and is a decent price could anyone help out or point me in the right direction
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>>50138519
ensoniq esq-1
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>>50137671
Poke around electronics surplus and ham swapmeets for an old bench function generator/audio generator. Those are usually sine/square and can be had fairly cheaply.
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>>50138519
yamaha dx7
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>>50138538
>ensoniq esq-1
can you program your own patches?
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>>50138538
ESQ isn't from the 90s but is an awesome board. Very easy to use, sounds great.
>>50138519
Best deal out there at the moment, imo, is the K-Station. They're like 100-200 tops, knobby but with some deep editing available with some menu diving. Most of the old gems have gone up in price with the resurgence of interest in synths that cheap analog toys have brought.
Kurzweil K2*00 series is a desert island synth and they're stupid cheap now.
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>>50138652
yes

>>50138683
>ESQ isn't from the 90s but is an awesome board. Very easy to use, sounds great.

I realize that but this guy probably doesnt care. Also it was 87 or so right?
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>>50138652
of course! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw_sd0RHlZY
>>50138713
I suppose. I was slinging these things back then, so "90s" in my head started with the 01/w. The workstation era.
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Seconding the esq-1

godly machine
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Did anyone check out the MS20 kit?
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MicroBrute or MicroKorg? Never owned a synth before so only really looking for something to mess around with.

The monotribe also looks interesting but that ribbon keyboard looks super shitty.
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>>50133786
Yeah, our bassist used to have one. It's the SH-09 (itself a precursor to the SH-101) with a second oscillator. If you're a fan of that Roland monosynth sound - and why wouldn't you be - you can't go wrong.
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>>50136187
I'd love one of these but the only problem I have is no MIDI in. I want to sync it to an eternal MIDI clock. Missed opportunity I think.
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>>50136618
Good choice mate, it's a fantastic sounding mono.
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The London Modular Meetup was awesome the other day!
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>>50138832
sick er-1 bro

i love mine to death
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Check out this sweet case/paint job! This dude really looks after his synths.
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>>50139316
Yeah I love mine. You can get some absolutely amazing kicks out of it too.
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>>50138832
Nice Filco!
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>>50139313
Intellijel is swinging out of the fucking park lately. I've made room for a planar, dual adsr and I'm really trying to convince myself I don't need a metropolis. Awesome stuff coming out in euro from a lot of builders these days.
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>>50139313
my dick
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>>50139393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKvzM1Pupcs
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>>50139074
Microbrute. Microkorg is already dated. At least the microbrute has a new sound and good resale value.
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>>50139384
This dude had a pretty awesome setup too.
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>>50139313
Is that your system? It's well thought out.

Also, it makes me a tad proud to see a low-gain module in there.
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>>50139418
im the tylenol3s
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>>50139410
Alright, cheers dude. Feels good spending money I don't have.
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>>50139579
Yeah, just remember, it's not a hobby, it's a lifestyle. You'll be munching ramen in no time.
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>>50138538
seconded.
try to get it in person though since it's kinda old and the software is kinda complicated
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>>50138832
what gear is on the desk
thx
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>>50140125
Roland tr-505
Korg Electribe ER-1
Alesis Midiverbs (x2)
Alesis Midiverb 2
Teac X-3r reel to reel
Digitech pds1002 delay pedal
Focusrite scarlett 2i4
Midisport 2x2
Ibanez sc10 chorus
Behringer Eurorack mixer
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>>50138832
I hope those headphones aren't for mixing. Otherwise cool setup m8.
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>>50140229
You can mix on whatever you want but yes I do agree with you.

I'm not mixing/mastering hit records here, just making some jams for fun. I pl;an on getting some hs50 as soon as I can get some cash.
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>>50140271
Oh yeah, I'm not hating on them or anything but after having those same headphones (ATH 700 if I saw correctly) for over a year I can easily say they are way too bright and have very little bass. I still put them on sometimes since they are fun to listen to but I would always be afraid to mix with them. Obviously you could just remix later, but it's not like I even have monitor headphones for my mixing either.

Also how about that hearing fatigue? Maybe I'm just a little bitch but after a few hours I can't barely listen anymore.
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>>50140359
I rarely ever get hearing fatigue but hot damn do my cables get tangled a lot. My headphone cable is getting so stiff and these headphones are really busted up from the cable getting tangled on stuff.
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>>50140439
Same. They actually broke on me a couple weeks ago from the cable snapping from the jack. The top pads were getting uncomfortable anyways and I already had a replacement. They lasted me a while but I really which I got the senn 558 or something instead.

Also on the topic of discussion what does everyone think about the reissue of the Korg Odyssey? Do you think it will actually be worth it or just a collectors item.
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>>50140198
wow cool thanks. you have a sick setup
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>>50140568
It's alright. I've just gradually picked stuff up over time to jam with. The past 6-8 months I've been trying to really get some stuff recorded and refined.
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>>50140648
do you have a link to your stuff? i'd be interested in checking it out
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>>50140648
What kinda stuff do you make?
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Im super interested in synths and wanna get into this stuff, but most of this thread is jibberish to me, is there a good place to start?
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>>50140705
>>50140707
In due time. I really havent posted anything because I dont want to be one of those soundcloud bandcamp thread people.

I like to make house, deep house, dub techno type jams. I also like to make real spacey soundscapey stuff but that is more for fun.

Lately I've been just trying to make some electro to jam out with on bass since I havent been able to play with a band for a while.

I'll post a soundcloud full of random snippets I cannot manage to make into tracks whenever I get my interface working again. Asio4all can suck my dick.
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I love this bb but I'm looking for a nice synth to purchase. Any ideas?
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>>50140786
My biggest issue with making music is finding a central theme or aesthetic to anchor the kind of music I make.

Those threads are cool, but while I like the general idea of people sharing their WIPs, usually I don't find anything good there and I don't wanna be associated with that kinda stuff.

Someone once told me "make music to express, not to impress" and that changed the way I think about this kinda stuff.
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>>50140864
Yeah I really agree with that. Mainly the reason why I can never get anything done is because I have not streamlined my workflow to the point where I can actually get things to come together cohesively. I usually end up making a bunch of patches and drum sequences and jamming out finding interesting sounds.

I cannot tell you how many times I've finished jamming and turned off my stuff completely forgetting to save it all. I'm also very harsh on myself and really hate a lot of my old recordings. I've really come a long way in only a few months though I've read a lot into how to arrange and layer things better and how to track into a DAW correctly. Its been a lot of fun and all I need to do now is keep working at it.
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>>50140954
I know that feeling. I create at least one new Ableton sketch every day. I've heard the trick is to change focus to working on whole tracks, and forcing yourself to call something "complete".
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>>50140810
what is your budget
also why is it black
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>>50140997
>focus to working on whole tracks, and forcing yourself to call something "complete".

I can see how that would work and I can also see how painful it's going to be. I'll just have to work through it I guess.
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>>50141023
I think having immediate access to the entire global landscape of music makes it intimidating. So, just make music you wanna listen to and then once you have enough songs, you can create an EP or Album which you can use to market the project.
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>>50138519
I'm totally late to this, but old digital synths are worth nothing these days. You can get amazingly deep, sophisticated gear for very cheap (though that's less true of effect processors).

The downside is that they're often difficult to use, and sometimes can be unreliable.
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what is the synth they use in all those neo-80s albums

i want to sound like the the 80s
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>>50142037
Juno 60

dx7
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>>50142037
>i want to sound like the the 80s
like everyone else

DX7 and JX3p?
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>>50141815
I like grabbing old forgotten stuff and using them again
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>>50142037
DX7, M1, JX8P, OBXa
If you want to stick to software you could write a hundred synthwave albums with just the Korg Legacy Collection (M1/Wavestation) alone. Add FM8, SQ8L, PG8X and you've got most every base covered.
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My budget is under 500 and I took off the frame cause it feels better.
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>>50142224
It wasn't a bad idea circa 2000 (and that's exactly what I did), but I don't see much point now. It makes a difference in workflow but there's nothing inherently magical about digital hardware.

But still, the Yamaha TG77, Roland JV2080, Emu or Ensoniq samplers, Kurzweil K2xxx series, Kawai K5, etc. are very cheap and powerful.
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>>50142261
D50 too
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>>50141815
This is completely false. There are several great digital synths that are still completely usable.

Dx7, Korg Dw8000, esq-1, blofeld, etc
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>>50142739
But none of those are "something forgotten from the 90s something that has potential". Most of the stuff in that category involves a lot of menu diving and manual reading. I'm not even saying that's bad; it doesn't bother me at all. But what's popular now is "muh knobs".
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SP404, LaunchPad Mini and a Korg Microkorg .
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>>50133646
>>50133782
iktfb
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>>50142822
>"something forgotten from the 90s something that has potential"
>Most of the stuff in that category involves a lot of menu diving and manual reading

You never said it had to be easy.
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I was thinking about getting a dx7, anything else I should be looking at instead?
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>>50143155
no, it's the best synth of all time
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>>50142914
I never found it to be a problem, but people complain about that shit all the time.
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Would it be worth investing for a hardware setup for use without a computer?

I was thinking maybe having it consist of a Moog Voyager and a DSI Tempest, but not really sure what else I would need.

Any advice?
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>>50140864
>not fully developing your musical aesthetics before you begin making music
do people really do this?
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>>50143205
I think the later models are actually a lot better...
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After adderall studying manuals and tutorials for several days I started to really like the monomachine and it's been great ever since
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>>50143365
Wait until DSI finishes programming the Tempest. It's still buggy.

I also would recommend not getting a voyager unless you have to get rid of a bunch of money as a tax write-off or some crazy shit. It's an excellent synth, but it shouldn't be your first mono.
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>>50143525
>not taking inspiration directly from your tools and workflow
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>>50143365
Starting from scratch, I can't recommend it. What does it really offer you that you can't get any other way? It's fine to dick around with cheap gear, decide that you like working that way, and gradually expand. But I don't see much point in diving straight into high end stuff unless you've already got something really, really specific in mind.
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>>50143638
Only the DX7 mk1, DX1, DX5, and TX-816 had the DACs that sounded like shit.
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>>50143730
>letting your workflow define you
>not defining your workflow
m8 what are you doing
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>>50143819
I know that (and actually you've missed the pre-DX7 ones), but why is the resulting hissy, fuzzy sound an advantage? And the TG77 adds so much more...
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how is every mau5 song structured? because most of them are similar sounding.
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>>50133671
Those fucking candies were the best shit altoids ever made, and then they stopped selling them. Why must they torture us so?
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>>50143861
I could go in depth into the nature of inspiration and the creative process, but fuck it, I don't really care.
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>mfw I was saving up for a p08 but, I caved and bought an ms 20 even though I already had a mono bass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5aWfkm-h6A
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>>50143917
>tfw thought that was going to be the first reply
Go to one of the /ck/ discontinued foods threads sometime. It's terrible. The only one I can think other than the altoids right now is the green colored ketchup, but there has been really good candy and shit that have been discontinued this past decade.
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mine. euro ftw
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>>50143940
>inb4 it's all about the limitations man
learn some self discipline and decide on some limitations for yourself like a grownup
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>>50143890
The GS1/2 didn't have the same ones. I'd imagine they must have been worse. And for how rare they are, they're not worth mentioning.

>TG77
Your right, but software is capable of even more.

I'm not the guy claiming the DX7 was the best synth ever though, I was just pointing out the only noteworthy part about the DX7 compared to it's successors.
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>>50144008
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>>50144008
how much did that cost
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fuck with this.
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>>50144136
Am I in 1995?
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>>50144009
>asinine assumptions and smug bullshit
guess I was right in assuming you were autistic and not worth bothering with
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>>50144156
admit it m8, I got you
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>>50144152
its pretty great, and i know i can get way more than what im doing with it know.
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>>50144083
about 3500 case included, but I didn't get it all at once.
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Thoughts on the new Volca Sample? Could it become an alternative to SP series?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSTxg43_wBM
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>>50144804
You have to own a Mac to record samples onto it. That's a huge downside for me.

I just need a sampler with the ability to create patterns on the go from samples on a SD card. Should I wait for the new Electribe, or is there something cheaper I should look into?
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>>50144899
I don't know about creating patterns but the mpx8 might be the portable sampler you're looking for, but just know it's more of a sampler player with the ability to loop or add reverb.

Otherwise, just lug around an sp series or something.
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>>50144988
>mpx8
Have you used it? I stumbled upon the info that it's painfully slow when it comes to loading samples.
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What's the difference between analog synths with patchbays and ones with knobs? I've only ever used patchbays for circuit bending old casio shit.
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Some guy dicking around with a bunch of synths:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szWhzdqrS2g
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>>50145127
>some guy
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>>50145060
I haven't used it, but loading samples isn't a huge pain for me as long as there isn't any delay when I hit the pad.

I've heard equal horror stories about the SP303, does the lag only happen when loading from a card or does it apply to recording too? if so then fuck
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I want to get an ethereal post punk sound with a vst. anyone know how to do it? some examples of the sound I want
youtube.com/watch?v=Ts1Frbt3Fts
"Plainsong" by the cure
youtube.com/watch?v=LotqgOfnaRI
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>>50145178
Dunno, I guess I'll have to get into it. A device to play loops would be great for me to, since I want to get rid of the computer during live sets. Thanks!
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>>50145171
>>50145127
>dicking around
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I've never bought any hardware synths but I built this last week

1 of 2 (front view)
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>>50145324
2 of 2 (back view)
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Anyone else get weirded out when they play an acoustic instrument due to all the dynamics? I played a piano and the polyphony along with having different volume envelopes for each note was a trip.
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>>50146452
Forgot to add that the fact my notes weren't getting stolen when I used to long release pedal and it was creating all these dissonances was really cool along with the natural reverb of the hall.
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i just got the korg monotribe in the mail a couple weeks ago, i enjoy fucking around on it alone but can feel its kindof lack of power on its own, im looking for somehting i can buy to use with my monotribe, was thinking maybe the korg monotron? any recomendations
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>>50145324
>>50145365
sick
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>>50146452
>>50146484
yeah, I can't really deal with how impure the sound is
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You guys might like this I don't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBS6MM05KdY
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>2 poor for synths
>2 poor for music making

help me with this feel
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>>50146991
puredata is free
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>>50146452
>>50146484
Are you serious? Or are you just taking the piss?
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>>50146991
Pirate Ableton Live.
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>>50147311
100%serious, this was the first time I played an acoustic piano in about 15 years though and the last time I did I was 3 or 4
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>>50146750
Definitely not the monotrons. They're great for weird sounds, but not for any melodic, bass, or pad work.

The volca series uses the same sync system as the monotribe. The keys also make a great lead synth.

You might also want to check out any of the recent crop of monosynths
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>>50147415
Yikes. I've been trained in piano (as well as voice, drumset, and percussion). I didn't get into synthesizers until the end of high school. It seems weird to me because I'm so used to full polyphony and articulation. I'm also pretty snobby when it comes to midi controllers.
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>>50147490
well gee I'm sorry I happen to be a minimalist

didn't mean my post to piss all over your traditionalist upbringing
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>>50147534
I wasn't pissed or anything. I just thought you were genuinely taking the piss, and remarking that the nature of the instrument seems ordinary to myself. No need to get all defensive.
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>>50147490
I'm actually the opposite I only really got into electronic instruments and never acoustic ones so the ability to not be burdened by the limits of the technology is really weird to me. I actually feel really detached to all the pieces in the way that a composer would to units in an orchestra
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>>50147534
>>50147566
That's a different dude
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>>50147566
>the nature of the instrument seems ordinary to myself
ordinary really only because the piano was one of the first instruments, not because the sound it emits is anything close to the purest
>>50147610
>the ability to not be burdened by the limits of the technology is really weird to me
remember there are plenty of human limitations that machines blaze right through. like human beings are the absolute worst at keeping time
>>50147627
and? my philosophies are still valid
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>>50147610
There is an intimacy to be had with acoustic instruments. I can't feel a synth the same way I can feel hammers hitting strings, or physically bending a note. Still just a tool though. Always nice to have a full toolbox.
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>>50147646
The piano was very far from one of the first instruments. Do some research dude.

As per your philosophy, that's neat. But minimalism is more associated with classical composers like Steve Reich, Philip Glass, and John Cage
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>>50147646
Oh great. This guy again.
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>>50147697
that's true, however there's a precision to machine instruments that acoustic instruments are unable to replicate. and there's really no argument to be made over which is the more subjectively superior musical characteristic, intimacy or accuracy. you may not be able to 'feel' a synth but that is but one selection of preferable qualities.
>>50147745
>The piano was very far from one of the first instruments.
but it still came before the synthesize. there's a very simple litmus test for instruments capable of achieving purity of sound: can it make a sine wave without overtones? if it can do that, any number, any combination of said instrument can replicate more complex sounds
>minimalism is more associated with classical composers like Steve Reich, Philip Glass, and John Cage
and the piano was more associated with Beethoven not your half & half digital meets organic glitch hop bangers, what's your point?
>>50147798
m8 you wot?
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>>50147896
Okay, we get it, acoustic instruments are not cool for you. Can you stop doing this shit?
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>>50147896
>and the piano was more associated with Beethoven not your half & half digital meets organic glitch hop bangers, what's your point?
What the literal fuck are you on about?
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>>50147964
>not respecting others opinions
>trying to silence people
am I going to have to meme on you?
>>50147998
>But minimalism is more associated with classical composers like Steve Reich, Philip Glass, and John Cage
>What the literal fuck are you on about?
i am literally asking you the same question
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>>50147896
What's up with your obsession with sines too? I mean you always talk about them, but you never post any music about them. Music isn't about mathematical purity.
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>>50148056
>not respecting other's opinions
That's exactly what I'm asking you to stop. Just stop giving a shit that other people aren't going to make music the exact way you want them to.
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>>50148056
I was talking about the minimalist movement of experimental music, not your personal use of the word minimalist.
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>>50148058
>Music isn't about mathematical purity.
With any artistic medium you'll invariably find some people searching for the smallest logical construction within it that still yields a captivating product, that's what minimalism is. And seeing as music literally is nothing but mathematical phenomena occurring within the medium of sound, a search for mathematical purity is very much a search for the very atomic principles of all musical construction

triangle waves are alright in my book too tho

>>50148098
discourse is healthy within any artistic field. i don't know when or why exactly people have gotten so congratulatory, so pat-on-the-back as of lately, but arguments about the validity of one's own artistic philosophy being above the validity of another's used to be commonplace ways of sharpening your own understanding of the matter at hand.

>"The trouble with most of us is that we would rather be ruined by praise than saved by criticism."
Norman Vincent Peale said that. so if you ain't have anything but 'hey man nice track follow me i follow back' to add, i suggest you sit down and listen up

>>50148140
Q: what seems to you more likely when i said "I'm a minimalist"
>A) I'm exercising my own personal use of the word or
>B) I'm either Steve Reich, Philip Glass, or John Cage posting on 4chan
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>>50147798
he seems to get this reaction a lot
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>>50148058
>>50148056
Le purist tone is actually silence. I wouldn't expect plebs like you to understand
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>>50148349
I could care less about your philosophy music. Perhaps you should go make a thread and talk to those that do. I'm here to talk about synths.
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>>50133714
how many of those are there? 5?
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>>50148349
C) misappropriation of the term minimalist
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>>50148349
I get that your trying to start an intellectual discussion among shitposting t but you don't have to take music so seriously
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>>50148419
I just wish the idiot wouldn't shit up all of these synth threads. He should go make his own threads about shit only he wants to talk about. At the very least, he could post this music he's always on about, but he's never done that, all he ever does is talk about what he thinks is "right"
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>>50148456
M8, he is the shitposting. This thread was perfectly fine before.
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>>50136187
I was going to start with a Beatstep and a Microbrute, as well as a mixer and some pedals. Is this a good idea, I'm a beginner but I've been messing around in Reaper for a bit and I'm ready to drop money now.
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>>50148515
The microbrute does already have a sequencer, FYI. Not the same kind, but just throwing that out there .
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>>50148403
i can't help all this uniqueness, i can barely handle being this much avant garde
>>50148419
lol uh huh right m8, would you like to back that theory up with at least anything?
>>50148446
see figure 1
>>50148456
well someone's got to
>>50148425
>>50148472
>>50148497
>one guy with a setup
>one guy who went to a modular convention
>one guy with an SP404
definitely a captivating thread. god bless the autoarchives
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>>50148535
So leave if you don't like it. You don't have to make it shittier here.

Seriously, what is so bad about making your own thread where people will actually come to discuss the subject you desire?
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>>50148573
it's a very niche subject
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>>50148535
It's like you actively enjoy looking like an asshole. Mind posting any of this avant garde minimalist music you keep talking about?
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>>50148601
sorry, isn't finished yet
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>>50148589
Well go give it a try. It will be much more welcomed by the people who do care enough.

You might also want to check out /classical/, since they might be more of a challenge for you.
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>>50148531
what would be a good beginner mixer?
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>>50148613
Lmao, every time
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>>50148531
also you can't use the Microbrute in the DAW though...
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>>50148617
well it does seem to be a containment thread for all the proper theorytards
>>50148630
you'll know it when you'll hear it m808
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>>50148619
Peavy makes good small mixers. Even behringer makes good mixers now that they bought out Midas.
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>>50148643
>being retarded
>calling others retarded
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>>50148637
You can if you have an audio interface. It receives midi over USB, and you can just record the result.
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>>50148656
hey that's a good meme

looks like there's no /classical/ so I'm stuck in the same shithole i helped bring back to life even tho there's still barely any talk of synths.. posting this cause the next revolution in EMD production happens in sequencing, not synthesis
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>>50148689
>no ping-pong
Literal shit.
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>>50148689
>I helped bring back to life
Pfffhahahahahahhahahahahahaha
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>>50148713
>fx built into sequencer
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>>50148744
>doesn't even know what ping-pong mode is
Have you even used a step sequencer before?
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>>50148756
sounds like some novelty bullshit but feel free to try and enlighten me
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>>50148689
There's no synth discussion because you killed it
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>>50148756
>sequence goes forward direction
>sequence goes backward direction
>sequence goes forward direction
>sequence goes backward direction
>sequence goes forward direction
>sequence goes backward direction
oh lordy it's even worse that i could've imagined
this sort of shit makes for the corniest melodic content ever
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>>50148781
>I haven't heard of it before
>it must be bad
The sequence reverses when it reaches the end, like ping-pong. Great for Euclidean rhythms and other cool stuff. Not so great for dance music.
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>>50148830
It's not as corny as the dark time sequencer. Like how do you think anybody is going to make great strides with a sequencer copied from the 60s?
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>>50148830
It is time to go to bed Jorman.
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>>50148834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSu2HiMD9hI
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>>50148919
What's some boring tonal music going to prove?
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>>50148850
fuck im tired,
this >>50148919 was 4 u bb
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>>50148919
You should check out /bleep/. Should be a bit better for for you.
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>>50148948
thanksm8, I'm well aware of them those more avant-garde corners of /mu/
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>>50148979
That's bloop you're thinking of, bleep hates that IDM stuff.
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>>50149002
mmhm I'm well aware of what I'm thinking of
abstract formalism >>> "abstract" synthwank
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>>50149022
M8, I enjoy bleep, but there's nothing abstract about it, you're just being pretentious
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lol
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>>50149037
expressionistic and interpretive =/= abstract

meanwhile, bleep is all about the abstraction of musical constructions into purer, more functional, and ultimately much more elegant forms
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>>50149058
I had one of those with the rhythm section that would go bonkers when you cranked up the tempo. For some reason the tuning would always shift though.
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Fuck yeah, I've been waiting for an excuse to bust out this picture of Jordan Rudess. Every time I think he can't get worse, he just outdoes himself.
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I mostly use a DX27, Mutable Instruments Shruthi and a Blofeld, wavetable and FM are definitely my favs right now, I wanna get into modular so bad but money's a little tiny issue right now.

as far as sequencing, for what I do the alesis mmt-8 is perfect, i usually run the internal sequencers of my shruthi/microbrute/Vocla bass with the dx27 and blofeld performing whatever duties i want them to.

i still haven't modded my volca beats yet, i honestly can't stand the snare on it, but the kicks are godly, i'm okay with the boss dr-770

other than that it's an old mackie 1604 mixer, tascam 424, some old cassette deck i found at goodwill that works wonders, 2 alesis 3630 compressors, and a quadraverb and whatever effects i can find for dirt cheap. no computer involved in most of my stuff

but seriously wavetables are the fucking best, anyone here have experience with the waldorf microwaves, the microwave XT is my dream synth honestly
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>>50136857
it costs money to sign up, but lynda.com is great for learning software, they have a few tutorial series' on sound & music as well, you might be able to find rips of their videos on youtube though.
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>>50149246
I would avoid posting here if I were you. Idiots replying to shit tier trolls is all you will find.
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>>50149332
ive been on here for 6 years, i've seen it all bruv
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>>50149481
If nothing else, I respect your devotion to this shithole
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>>50149547
thx
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Is there a synth out there that is about 24 keys , really lightweight and portable, and has the ability to record/loop stuff without being hooked up to a computer?

pls respond
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>>50149716
It gonna have to make do with 25 keys and no sequencer, or look into workstations with 61 or more keys.
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>wishes
MS-20
Moog sub phatty
dave smith synth, any
doepher dark time sequencer
the original lemur touch pad

>why am i a poor college student?
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>>50149772
I wanna carry that shit around though :(
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>>50149819
>lemur
Just get an iPad, does the same thing, but you can also shitpost on 4chan with it. I know a guy with a lemur, it just sits in a box somewhere.
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>>50149824
Well there's just not any polyphonic synths with 25 keys and a sequencer.

You could try getting a looper pedal, but jamming with headphones won't work wothout a mixer.
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>>50149873
nah bruh, id go with *puts on raybans*

the samsung tablets if i could

for real though how much do they sell for, id rather have the original than a crapple with lagging lemur software
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>>50149885
iOS actually has pretty low latency for audio and midi, plus it has tons of development for the platform. You don't need to like apple, but don't pretend like it isn't a good option.
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>>50149884
Damnit.... are there any keyboards that might work?
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>>50149922
You should do your homework on what kind of synth you want first. Then worry about which model and what kind of looper or sequencer you need
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>>50149885
Lemur is far too expensive for what you get. Costs more than most tablets and it's just a screen, still needs a computer to do anything.
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>>50149954
>>50149909
i just dont like supporting companies that have dissapointed me in the past

the problem i have (although i havent researched it) is that i run all things windows,
wouldnt there be discrepancies if im running lemur iOS software in an ableton live session with a windows computer?
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>>50149941
Yeh im a newbie. I just want something portable and something that loops. And a headphone port. That's basically it
>>
Why are people still using VAs?

As far as i know there's no difference between them and vsts unless you go virus or nord?

Also if you want to record midi in a daw it's extra work for VAs since midi and audio is combined for vsts.

Isn't it theoretically smarter to get a midi keyboard and drop money on analog gear instead if you want a cleaner workflow for digital synths?
>>
i want a teaspoon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aott7lviTE4
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>>50150115
why wouldn't you want to go VA over vst, granted i fucking hate VA synths just cause all the ones ive used either sucked or had malfunctions in transmitting midi to ableton or the sounds/software never could load up in ableton

i cant fucking stand vst synths with midi keyboard controllers though...i need something physical to fuck around with

granted, getting a midi keyboard with a moog rack module, etc instead of the the whole analog synth is obviously best imo, its cheaper, more desk space, and then when people enter your studio they will think you work for nasa

i don't understand the midi for VA statement tho, im also sleep deprived haha
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>>50150203
You know when recording midi with a VA you also have to render it to actual audio. In vsts its just combined. The midi has the audio from the vst. Its extremely flexible imo
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>>50150257
i know that, i just never got that far because the midi on both VAs i bought got so fucked up that turning an LFO knob created thousands of notes per second
>it sounded cool as fuck with this chimey, piano filtered sound i created, deadmau5 actually has used similar sound, idk bout the production method
i never got to the part of rendering it to audio since the synths were so fucked up...generally is it via the soundcard/amp, or another audio interface?
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I don't know jack shit about synth's, can you guys give me some tips on where to start if I want to start producing?
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>>50150355
Just an external audio interface yeah. Which synths did you use?
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>>50150355
kk i figured, i was just too pissed about the hardware fucking up that badly to even go further into it

both of them were rolands...at least one of them was like the juno-d i think...
they were lent to me by a friend, but the guy he lent to previously fucked them up somehow, the audio probably worked but after spending ~12 hrs trying to somehow fix the midi (even with meh midi-usb cables it wasnt the problem)

that was a frustrating ass day, especially when returning the synths and telling my friend that his $1000+ equiptment is utter shit
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>>50150378
>kk i figured, i was just too pissed about the hardware fucking up that badly to even go further into it
>both of them were rolands...at least one of them was like the juno-d i think...
>they were lent to me by a friend, but the guy he lent to previously fucked them up somehow, the audio probably worked but after spending ~12 hrs trying to somehow fix the midi (even with meh midi-usb cables it wasnt the problem)
>that was a frustrating ass day, especially when returning the synths and telling my friend that his $1000+ equiptment is utter shit

>im not even replying to the right posts >_<
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>>50150369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atvtBE6t48M

get to it
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>>50150503
that sounds pretty sucky, at least it wasn't your, lol
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got a pro 2 cause i want to get into modular. but now i don't know where to begin with modulars. what are some fat analog oscs? im trying to use these sweet filters
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http://youtu.be/Wpg_7t7rpWE?t=12m
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Got this a while back its a casio synth with three modwheels still don't know if I like it yet sounds awesome just a bitch to program unlike my alpha juno 2 which i luv
heres a sample of casio vz 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24QYv1j-vEs
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>>50150369
>http://www.vintagesynth.com/
infos not always accurate there but its still a good place to look
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>>50136618
Motherfucker arrived this morning

Sounds fantastic
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>>50143644
Monomachine is easily one of the best digital synths made.
>>50143819
I've never touched a 1 or 5 but the 816 was dead silent compared to the 7. I got mine from a composer and it was a studio queen, regret selling it but it was getting ready to have a host of problems. Power supply was pretty near needing a rebuild and there were already burst caps on multiple TF1s. If I were in the market for an FM synth today it would be the TX802 or TG77.
>>50150069
OP1. It doesn't loop like a loop recorder but you can sound-on-sound record loops in its "tape" recorder. It's great for making jams on the go, battery life is ridiculous.
>>50151126
Hot, I keep thinking of dumping my other rack monosynths and getting one. How's the paraphonic mode? Anyway, Noisebug and Pittsburgh Modular direct both have the Cell48 and 90 cases on sale. They're a cheap way to get into a reasonable case. I'd get a pair of oscillators, a few filters, a dual VCA and some kind of modulation. To be honest, I would begin with the filters first so you can run the Pro2 through something more wild.
>>50151968
Awesome synth, dem envelopes.
>>50152239
Noisebug has the modular dock for this for like 100bux. That's half off new, if you ever were thinking about euro, go grab it. There doesn't seem to be a lot of Vermona stuff out there and if/when it's discontinued the price jumps like a bastard.
>>
...didn't know how much space I had left
>>50152549
>so you can run the Pro2 through something more wild.
Look at the doepfer wasp filter, phase shifter, intellijel korgasmatron. More milquetoast but still good are the doepfer A-108 and mutable ripples. Latter is nice because it's got a VCA too. You might also want to consider just going with voice modules, a pair of Atlantis would be a hell of a way to start a modular system. In a 90HP case there'd be room for the flip flop you'd want for the Pro2's gate out and you could play it duophonically. Ghetto oberheim two-voice. "Ghetto" is still ~$1200 but hey, it's modular.
>>
>>50152549
I'll definitely keep it in mind. I'm keeping it midi for now though, until i can justify more gear
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>>50147896
>piano
>associated with specific people
>is an instrument that has been used by almost everyone forever

Scale-smashing autism
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>>50133769
>its a sampler/ sample sequencer
Hey, it's actually a music production station with synth engine.

http://www.korg.com/us/products/dj/electribe/

Can't wait to see in-depth demos of the thing.
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