/bleeproduction/ #10

bumpin

>>48051226
is that jens moelle?

>>48051599
It's Pariah - one half of Karenn (this is Karenn's live setup).

Anybody here ever consider the Studio Electronics CODE? They seem super sexy, but u feel like I would save money by buying an overpriced vintage poly like a JP-8 or an Onerheim 4 voice. Like the only thing more expensive than a maxed out CODE would be a CS-80

I'm too poor for bleepgear /mu/, how do I program/solder my own devices?

Aphex twin did it when he was 12

>>48052044
Anyone who ever did, did not start out by just asking how to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7CTo2-bAA8

that blip ping pong sound at circa 0:50 riddles me, how's that produced? doesnt sound like your usual square wave short decay blip

is it worth getting the esx for drum programming?
I've been using a DAW forever and wanted to get some fun hardware

>>48052044
>Aphex twin did it when he was 12
doesn't he bullshit about stuff like that though?

>>48052174

he does; I doubt he really did that kinda thing on a grand scale that young

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Too poor for bleep gear, make everything in software cause I'm a bitch. What do you think I should fix overall? I think my ideas are pretty solid for the most part
>Pic: All the gear I have

https://soundcloud.com/mb_seven/mere-mice

What happened to >>48048863? :(


>>48052099

Sounds like a pitch-shifted Casio VL1 "hi-hat"

>>48052161
>esx
Where the fuck are any of those? They are pretty much gone or in someone else's studio

>>48052044

Get a stand-alone VST host and download Synth1 or whatever

>>48052247

doesn't really sound like that, its not that noisy

>>48051226
Why are there two tempest rigs?

>>48052044
I started pulling shit apart around that age, but it would be insane to just give a 12 year old a soldering iron. I started assembling DIY kits around 18.

>>48052335
To find twice as many bugs

>>48052208

you shouldn't need any gear to make EDM

>>48052267

they're on ebay all the time and a friend is selling his

>tfw first physical CD release
we're all going to make it brah

>>48052369
Why do you say that?

>>48052369

cause its really not that necessary

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>>48052431
I am jelly

>>48052099

help me please

>>48052099
That totally doesn't sound like a square wave. It sounds like a temple block. Perhaps experiment with low pitched noise being filtered really quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just temple block samples though.

>>48052369
Of course not. You shouldn't need anything but a few voices, maybe a drum or two. But it's nice to have variety, and work with better equipment.

>>48052484
I never came up with the idea that its a sample cause it sounds so overly synthetic, but that makes sense. Thank you!

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>>48052624
Yeah, to me it basically sounds like one of these bad boys, but pitch shifted.

We used one in band for the horse clip clops.

>>48052682
For the horse clip clops in Sleigh Ride*

Im a lonely cloud with my windows down

>>48052624

it's just a tuned drum hit with some effects.

>>48052703
>horse sounds
>>>/mlp/

>>48052881

dont act like its that simple

>>48052881
That was already established.

Though the only effect was reverb

>>48052905

it is that simple. will you get the exact same sound? no because you don't know the same process.

look at the hits through a spectrum and you should get fairly close.

>>48052434
because it is true?

>>48052935
>through a spectrum
What does this even mean? Through a frequency analyzer? Or do you literally just mean blasting a spectrum of noise while listening to it?

>>48052935
It's percussion, but it's not a drum.

>>48052971

yeah frequency analyzer. sorry. it's called spectrum in ableton so i've gotten used to just using that term for it.

>>48053005
I should really get around to using live, have you compare it to bitwig?

>>48053022

nah. i was super hyped for bitwig, but it took a lot longer to come out than I expected and I pretty much settled on live 9, which is a big improvement over 8.

bitwig seems pretty apt for making dance music so i might check it out soon.

..obviously things like individual midi note automation is a big advantage over live. they definately have some great features, but they also lack a few things at the moment. some VSTs aren't supported very well.. mostly samplers like kontakt. also some midi controller issues.

here's a good bitwig review

http://www.attackmagazine.com/reviews/gear-software/bitwig-studio/

>>48053074
>midi controller issues
Hammer, meet nail. I'm always having trouble with that, I just thought it was my controllers.

>>48052081
well he started somewhere right?

>>48052339
>DIY kits
where can I buy them

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I recently released a scrubstep and dumblectro house EP because I like EDM. I used FL Studio paired with a Novation Launchpad. I made my own drums by layering samples and I did some harsh compression on most of it. My main synths are Massive, Sylenth 1, Toxic Biohazard, and Harmor. I mastered the whole album song to song and made an overall master. Sounds pretty good, a little noisey high end, but what can you do, it's scrubstep.

https://soundcloud.com/star-lux/sets/modern-talking-is-stupid-ep

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Whats a good cheap set of monitors that are not too big?

Also holy fuck I need some shelves.

>>48053855
They started by doing their homework on circuitry and tearing apart home appliances. Not asking to be spoonfed.

Bridechamber.com
Muffwiggler.com/forum music tech DIY section
http://www.cgs.synth.net
Paia.com

In reality, there's quite a but you need to do before you can jump right into SDIY

>>48054265
8" or 5"?

>>48054309
t-thanks

>>48054265
Sup, ESQ bro, I'm selling mine - but before I sell it I can transfer my patches onto the Net and give them to you if you want/need some new patches.

IDK about the monitors tho (actually, I'm wondering that, too).

>>48054265
Yamaha HS50

>>48054332
5"

>>48054338
I think you can do a midi dump when you enable sysex

>>48054366
Are they really decent? They are pretty cheap.

>>48054377
They're supposedly the best you can get at the bottom of the market, I don't have them, I have old Rokits but I've heard them and I think they're very clear and truthful. I also like my Rokit 5s, they're a little muddy but they're fine for me.

>>48054377
I'd say JBL LSR 305, but the HS50s mentioned are pretty much the same tier anyways.

>>48054421
Well hot damn that sounds like a sweet deal. I probably wont be getting them any time soon but at least I have a pretty good idea about what to save for next.

>>48054485
>nobody remembers that time some anon complained that his brother got him a pair of of JBL LSR 308s and not KRK Rokshits

>>48054377
OK, dumped all my INT banks

http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/83999369/file.html

Some are custom-made, some are from the net, maybe you'll like one

>>48052339
>not soldering things together when your 12 and seeing if they work.
>having parents who don't promote mechanical creativity.

>>48054617
Neat. When I get a chance I'll fire it up and give them a shot. Any neat pads in there?

I've been using my esq for spacey wonky pads lately.

Also I've never imported patches so this will be a learning experience.

>>48054630
You don't start with soldering. You start with electronics kits where connections are made by pushing wire into springs or special sockets, then move to breadboard kits.

You're not really knowledgeable about circuits, are you?

>>48054675
Yeah, check out ARP, >JX<, 2NDOUT, RISSE, HEAVEN and 2FACES.

Importing patches is easy btw. Just set your MIDI settings so the ESQ1 recieves all messages, go to the patch views and import the sysex. Just make sure you made a backup first.

>tfw no Prophet 5 rev 2.2 with SSM filters and no Curtis chips

m.youtube.com/watch?v=46DiMfrz0bg

http://youtu.be/W8Y3piodWes?t=1m29s
can someone tell me how to make this sound? i've heard it many times in other songs as well

>>48055610
Sounds like a sine wave heavily modulated by a square LFO

>>48052335
one for pariah and one for blawan

>>48055649
Somewhat close. No squares though.

>>48055610
FM synthesis. But it's not being modulated by an envelope very much. The other sound is some organ plugin, which is a bunch of sines added together.

>>48055794
Nvm, youtube didn't let me go straight to the part he linked.

The square wave is correct, it's modulating pitch. There's no way that started with a sine though, it sounds much more full than that

>>48055509
That was they gayest thing I've ever listened to. I mean it wasn't bad, but it was incredibly gay.

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>start buying gear
>99% of what i make with it is shit

>>48051226
>dat Perfourmer

>>48056002
Just post it and let others judge it

Maybe it's actually pretty ok

>>48056002
Did you think you would just get the ability after you got the gear? I only bought gear because I was fed up with the limitations and the sound (that of cheap imitation).

Then again, I was already playing keys in bands before I got into production.

>>48056013
Huh, they're not actually that bad for the money. I should look into getting one.

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>>48056092
Vermonas are great synths.

I've got a Vermona Mono Lancet, and it's possibly the nicest sounding modern budget mono I've heard, albeit a bit limited on modulation options. As soon as I can afford it, I'm looking to get the modular expander and start building a eurorack system.

There are some great Mono Lancet demos at the end of this review:

http://greatsynthesizers.com/en/test/vermona-mono-kick-lancet-lead-and-groove-synthesizers/

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>tfw make hip hop instrumentals
>hear a sweet track on the radio
>know it would make a great beat
>shazam wont work
>didnt catch enough of the lyrics to google it
>dj didnt say what track it was

i feel like crying.

>>48056365
Oh I've heard quite a few lancets. I don't need another mono unless it's an SEM (or 4). They are quite nice though.

I'm in the market for a knobby analog poly these days, which is why the perfourmer piques my interest. I looked into the Studio Electronics CODE, but at that price, I might as well get a vintage Prophet 5 or Memorymoog.

>>48056432
go to the radio station's website and look at the schedule m8

>>48056469
i tried that. it wasnt there. all they had was a list of top 40 songs.

the songs they played after were really out there for a pop radio station. i think they were playing local music.

>>48056497
Hit up the DJ and ask him politely

>>48056523
yeah might do that now. i hope i find it.

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I always thought this album would be terrible based off of the cover, but hell, it's actually good.

>tfw you'll never be in the 80's making synth heavy dance music that's enjoyable

>>48056554
But that's a kickass sleeve

>>48056585
I'm not sure if he's being serious or ironic though. Because if he's being serious, it is kind of cheesy.

>>48056629
It was released in 1977 so both could work

>>48054265
can you explain how you use the analogue tape machine? Its something I'd like to explore but don't have a lot of access to things like it.

do you just plug your instruments into a mixer and plug your mixer into the tape machine and you have an analogue recording? what is it printed on? just tape?

>>48056554
>mfw he still makes music

probably the oldest producer going
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT0k99hCY5I

>>48057442
>what is it printed on? just tape?
pfhahahahahahaha

>>48057555
Wow, that sounds brickwalled as fuck

Giorgio, what are you doing

>>48057559
please.. i don't know anything about this.. :(

>>48057555
Tbh, I wasn't really impressed with his new stuff. Just sounds like a rehash of the old stuff but with a taste of generic modern EDM.

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>>48057442
I'm guessing the person uses the tape machine for dat analogue tape saturation... maybe some real-time time/pitch manipulation?

When it's recorded, it's on tape, simple as that. Most tape machines have line outs though, so you can transfer the audio signal to your computer

>>48057604
Well what else would it do? It's kind of labelled as a tape machine.

It's a magnetic strip of tape (not unlike a hard disk) where the waveform is directly recorded into the magnetic signal. It has an extremely high information density which means a high quality signal is recorded. It is, however, band limited by what the read and write heads can produce, so it "adds warmth" by rolling off the high end.

The high information density is exploited with DAT tape (digital analog tape), which is a medium with a capacity for an extreme amount of information storage. The only reason it's not more widely used is the read/write time is much longer than a hard disk. Similar digital tape storage systems are used by corporations and governments for large scale archival purposes.

>>48057731
Digital audio tape*

>>48057615
>rehash

give him a break mate he's like 80 and he basically invented electronic dance music. . i think it's pretty cool really that he still wants to be involved and is moving on with the times.

it's not like he was going to be coming back onto the scene with some bangin dark loopy warehouse techno is it.

>>48057731
>>48057770
okay this is really helpful, thank you. but how is a mix dealt with? and how does distribution work?

>>48057924

That's probably what the mixer is for. Don't know what you mean with distribution though.

>>48057924
There's typically a tape in/out on mixers that match what the tape machine has. It sends the complete mix from the mixer to the tape machine, on playback, the mixer sends it back to the mixer outputs to be heard.

What do you mean by distribution?

>>48058001
Tape machine should replace mixer after I said on playback.

I should proofread my posts

https://soundcloud.com/808sanddarkshades

i like 808 drums and spacey ambient sounds and chill samples tbh

>>48058001
so every modification to make to the mixer is saved to the tape when you adjust it?

>>48057947
What I mean is like copying it to a tape so that others can hear it, or sell it. CD, records, etc

>>48058076
No, it only records whatever sound the mixer sends. There's no way it can possibly record edits you make to the mixer unless it affects the sound in some way.

For distribution, you'd need to play the tape machine into an audio interface to make digital copies, or play it into a cassette recorder as it is recording.

Just treat it as a sampler, it will record what you put into it, and play it back out on demand.

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>>48057442
Here I'll walk you through each use I have for it.

1. Tape delay: I use it to feedback into itself sometimes to get a nice delay going on that I have really not been able to match with any delay pedal or effect easily in real time (except for the strymon el capistan, that shit rules)

2. Saturation: whatever I put into it kinda gets a fuzzy spacey noise with a tiny bit of hiss added to it. It really does wonders on hazy pads or bass I want to sink in a bit more. Also lately I've been experimenting with using it to make the electribe ER-1 sound a lot more organic and the parts of the tr505 with a bit of verb thrown onto a tape deck sound great

3. Running loops: when I first got it I experimented with splicing up tape loops and fucking with the pitch to get a really weird loopy timestretched feel

I plug all my instruments I want to record into that mixer and the mixer going into the reel to reel.

I've lately been experimenting with recording my entire saved projects or loops and running that through the machine to get a good dose of saturation on it. I've tried every possible vst that does tape emulation but this deck and a few other I've used really do something great.

Honestly it is just a badass tool in your arsenal for experimenting with shit and I only paid 50 bucks for this one. They are pretty finnicky but I'm glad I have one to mess about with.

>>48058173
>>48058263
wow thanks so much for your explanations. So you will take a full track you've recorded/mixed and put it through the tape to get a different sound for your song?

once again thanks, this has really meant a lot.

>>48058263
Oh also I should have mentioned tape comes in various amounts of quality so if you really have something you want to sound faded that can be handy.

Also here is a video of delay in action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNUT8nuTLms

and a video where he's using it for extra saturation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azddyI4cCSM

Notice the FMR audio RNLA which is a levelling amplifier he probably used to push a bit more into the deck to get it sounding more full.

>>48058393
Yeah I've just recently been trying it out for a few reasons. Reason one is that it sounds nice but does take away too much from things I dont want it to. The answer to that is pretty much just running only the instruments I want to sound like that through it.

Another reason is I am a complete nerd and I want to record a bunch of tracks on a tape and let it sit for 40 years so I can see how much it decayed because I think that sounds neato.

It is really not that far off to run an entire track through something as a lot of popular techno or house artists used to run entire finished tracks through an analog filter of some sort to round them out a bit if they were harsh as a lot of acid house artists used commodore/yamaha/amiga computers.

It is hard to polish shit recordings and samples with effects but a nice dose of putting your signal path through the right things at the right settings will really add some spice to your sounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRDKLMw87Uk

how's that glitchy sound at the beginning produced?
also, any tips on achieving those kind of whispery, subtle IDM-like drum sounds and textures heard in their songs?
another record example would be björk's vespertine. Very hushed drum sounds

I guess experimenting is the key, but anyway it'd be great if you got some tips :)

>>48058613
>how's that glitchy sound at the beginning produced?

Cutting out a few milliseconds of a sample/recording and C&Ping it

>>48058613
Sounds like a really processed organ. You don't need to go out and buy a Hammond. It seems like a VST with a lot if distortion. Then they probably bounced it and cut up the sample.

>>48058682
>>48058721

Thanks alot

>>48058566
this has been very insightful, i appreciate it

>>48058682
what does C&P stand for?

>>48059440
copy pasta

>>48059440
Copy & Paste

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>>48059383
Thanks I'm glad to share any time.

And I'm not saying everyone should run out and buy a reel to reel at their nearest five and dime but it it sounds like something you might like take a look at it. I've found that the most important thing in experimentation is not only trying things that are unusual but also changing how you approach making your sounds from the ground up.

>>48059440
Carl & Palmer

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https://soundcloud.com/obleak-pigeon
(Highlights: trash burrito, muratic acid, in tricat, simonia)

So far I've only made things for the sake of having a beat in my head and then executing my attempt. Now I've got a mindset for a solid ep that's inspired by footwork and hyperjuke. My biggest inspirations for music making are the electronic collective ??R? ??U??S
http://rarennudes.bandcamp.com/

I used to use Audiosauna for production, then I switched to OpenMPT and am now saving up for Renoise. Working with other electronic producers would be very engaging for me so I'd like to try it one day.

How to use the basic MIDI sounds like Acoustic Grand Piano, Bright Acoustic Piano etc. in FL studio?

>>48060275
What? Can you rephrase that in a way that makes more sense?

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>>48060716
This is the list I found in that Midi Out thing. It's the same list I could find in NoteWorthy Composer or my midi keyboard. But I can't find the sounds out of this list anywhere in FL Studio.

https://soundcloud.com/fox-wedding

dark hip hop influenced melodic shit.
playin a show in boston the 10th if anyone interested

>>48060837
There's a general midi plugin in Fl studio, I forget what it's called.

Why do you want it though? General midi sounds like crap

>>48061136
I feel like there's a huge potential in two or three of these sounds. Too bad you forgot it.

>>48061227
theres really not

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First synth I had hands-on with was an XP-80 (I was born in the 90's). It was a cheaper-end workstation but it had a pretty decent onboard sequencer. I didn't really get into making patches until 2 years in of owning it. I was probably 14. It's really the only synth I ever had. By this time, VSTi's were becoming more of a 'thing' and I had shaken the idea that everything needed to be hardware.

I'm not really a synth guy, though I love synths and sound design. Even though I played drums for many years in a band, I was appalled at how shit some of the sound guys were in my area. It eventually drove me to become a sound dude, I already knew what I was doing with desks and PA equipment from being in a band. I really just focus on refining sound now. I do a lot of mastering mixing live events now on the side and I'm currently working on some cool stuff with artists abroad. Favorite desk has to be AWS 900, just for its sound and simplicity. Please comment if you've ever used a AWS 900 etc, your experiences with other desks.

https://soundcloud.com/ckbaudio/ckb-gen20

>>48061280
No potential or no midi plugin?
>>48061136
Was it Dashboard or Fruity LSD maybe? Somehow both make no sound to me tho.

>>48061401
no potential. GM sounds are, IMO, usable except for diagnostics

>>48061401
No potential. There was a huge market for general midi sound modules back in the 90s. These days, they tend to sound like cheese, and we have VSTs to replace them. I imagine at some point VSTs will would like cheese to is and we'll move on to something newer to get our bread and butter sounds.

>>48061401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssc2iLiftOg
Figured it out just by looking at this tutorial made by some crazy Mexican.

>>48051226
hey guys, do you know how to avoid comb-filtering when it's time to use a stereo-widener in an element of the mix?

When I check my mix in mono it sounds like shit.

Are there other places to buy synths from other than craigslist and ebay? I've been trawling for a DX7 or DX7II but they're always either broken or ridiculously overpriced there.

I think I did it, guys. I managed to get a truly fat Glitch Mob-esque saw all ITB with 3xOSC.

Believe in your dreams and don't be afraid to put several distortion plugin instances in a row.

>>48061634
those are where i've bought all my synths from. I scour ebay/craigslist every day for deals

>tfw you're in an area where there's never any synths on craigslist
>tfw closest music store to play with synths is 2 hours away

I got really lucky a couple times on CL though, as well as ebay. although my synth collection is pretty small right now. another idea is whenever you're out of town, go through the CL in any town you might pass through. that's how I got my DX21 for 100 bucks

>>48061609
>When I check my mix in mono it sounds like shit.
Who cares? Does it sound good in stereo? Then who gives a fuck.
Think everyone is going to be listening on a stereo-summed phone speaker?

>>48061657
I use fl stereo enhancer

>>48061713
arent most cellphones speakers mono?

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Time to roll out the big guns

>>48061713
Not him, but that implies it's not club ready and probably has phasing issues.

>>48061634
Forums. But you usually need to be a contributing memeber to use the trading sections (which isn't a bad idea). I do to come here for in depth discussion anyways. I come here because I can correspond to people much faster and put some lernin on some noobs

>>48061713
if it sounds good in mono, it'll sound GREAT in stereo

>>48061763
>not club ready
That's not a problem at all if you're not making shitty music

>>48061785
Dont*

>>48061741
Most cell-phones speakers are summed to mono. iPhone for example.

>>48061763
what frequency is the element you are trying to widen? Maybe use another method, like chorus or small reverb. It's a simple work-around.

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https://soundcloud.com/vortigon

I'm do mostly electronic chiptuney orchestral stuff. I always put the vsti I use in the description. Or you can always ask me here.

I also want to bring out an album but I've been having trouble getting the volume of my tracks to the same level as professional artists.

here's some stuff that isn't out for public yet:

https://soundcloud.com/vortigon/royal_guard/s-vrt20

https://soundcloud.com/vortigon/electricallyengineeredorganism/s-yl7tq

>>48061819
>that isn't a problem if you live in your parents' basement
fixed

>>48061862
But anon, basement dwellers are the ones making generic club beats

>>48061872
yes, but those that actually get played in clubs do that in their own houses' basement

>>48061862
>everyone who doesn't like club music a a neckbeard
I think I might be missing something here (like flawed logic) but I'm pretty sure neckbeards love EDM

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>>48061872
>tfw live in parents basement
>tfw not making generic shit that will get me popular
>tfw just want to turn knobs and hear sounds

>>48061872
But how do they afford rent, let alone a mortgage?

>>48061861
>I also want to bring out an album but I've been having trouble getting the volume of my tracks to the same level as professional artists.

I know what you mean, but seriously: don't. Your production is fine as it is. Don't participate in the loudness war.

>>48061910
Does the Asian have the ginger haircut, or does the ginger have the Asian haircut?

>>48051226

god, the cost of that live setup really pisses me off...

damn rich kids and their analog gear! jelly af

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>>48062339
Maybe I can be your analog synthesizer tonight..?

>>48062440
ugh

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>>48062474
P-please... I even bought a new dress just for you...

>>48062440

As if microKorg, as if.

>that feel when you got a used MicroKorg from a desperate friend-of-afriend for $100... and never use it

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https://soundcloud.com/naturally-negative/im-very-dramatic

I've been working with nanoloop lately. Its a music production gameboy game. Its so fun to work with. I would recommend this to anyone, not just "chip-tune" guys, its just such a fun quick way to write music and gives you such fun ways to mix tracks live. This song was arranged live and then eqed a bit in ableton.

I cannot say enough how fun and easy nanoloop is to use.

>>48062519

id gladly take it off your hands for 100

>>48062588

It's got a key that sticks up and a half-inch from the rest of them though, its only flaw :(

>>48062588
i'd take it off your hands for 50 and a bag of peanuts

>>48062440
>>48062506

hows this idea? clean you up, sell you to the dumb kid that's always high down the street for 350$ and buy a minibrute. play with minibrute until satisfied then sell minibrute and buy BSII and realize you should have bought the BSII first

bonus points if i have 200 bucks for the microbrute after this is all done

>>48062576
>nanoloop
Your mix is a bit too chaotic for me but I love the sound you're getting out of that. A shame it's out of production right now.

I was chillin the other day and did this, it's very amateur and sound like old school techno/industrial rec me something and help me out! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WUi79G2faI

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>>48062699
But, but.. my pretty dresses...

>>48062685

I work in the produce department of a grocery store so I get, like, as many free peanuts as I want. Salted or unsalted. Whatever I'm feelin'.

>>48062722
11 dislkes in 2 days? How did you manage to do that?

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>>48062699

Buy 2 microbrutes. :)

Personally I'm saving up for one of these babies. 3 oscillators, 4-8 voice paraphony, and built like a tank? Yes please!

>>48062702

Thank you. People seriously need to give it a try. I cant even go back to ableton, its boring and uninspiring. My favorite part about nanoloop is that it gives you such a great balance of freedom and limitation.

Also, I should clarify that this is nanoloop 2.7. The gameboy original version is much more chiptune sounding. That being said, nanoloop 1 can sound way fatter, because you can use a modded original model gameboy. Another cool thing about nanoloop is that you can use a link cable and sync 2 of them together.

>>48062699
>angry BSII guy returns
Microbrute is still better

Honestly, Microkorg is fine. No reason to hate it.

>>48062861
ah yes, i want to play with a pulse so bad, very nice
>>48062876
I am just getting bored of my minibrute even though it's so much fun. I think i'd just rather have a BSII at this point, although If things pan out alright I won't have to sell my mini for it and can just have both

>>48062922
Ahh, there's some guy here who bought a BSII, so he feels the need to slam every other monosynth. Both are great synths, but I already have a Moog filter, so I have no need for the bass station

>>48062960
fuck that guy, but i'm sure if i had a pro 2 right now I'd be doing the same thing with a smug as shit grin on my face

also which moog filter? the moogerfooger? are they fun to play with?

>>48062853
i get a lot of hate on the interwebs cause i troll other youtube users lol

I know this isnt a soundcloud thread but oh well

>>48060883
Reminds me of Yung Gud, very spooky very good!

>>48061861
Royal Guard is a lot of fun to listen to, really juicy synth sounds you got there

If anyones interested here's mine
>sorry for the lack of bleeps/
https://soundcloud.com/jugador3/midnight-call

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Why does /mu/ hate Micro so much? I mean, it's meh, but I've gotten some decent sounds out of it. I just hate editing patches.

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>>48063048
Uhh, this one

Maybe someone could help me out here, I've been trying to recreate a synth(?) sound and I don't really know shit about this stuff. I feel like I've heard it elsewhere but these are the only two examples I can think of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjuUhTVMquY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=z2elJtgY6h8#t=35

It's that main delayed sounding synth?/guitar?/piano? I've tried a bunch of obvious ways to recreate it and none have really produced the right tone, do you guys have any ideas?

>>48063091
It's just not a lot if bang for the buck. It's go only 4 voices, which is fine for analog, but even 30 year old digital synths have 4 times as many voices. Minikeys. Plus the filter and oscillator selection is pretty bland.

If you know here to look, you can find the more capable blofeld for a similar price

>>48063048
Though I don't have Moogerfoogers, I can testify they're hella fun to play with

>>48063154
If by similar you mean ~$150 maybe. Then you have to add the cost of a keyboard. Not saying the micro is perfect, but it doesn't deserve to get shat on.

>>48063227
~$150 more, I mean.

>>48063253
>if you know where to look
The last time I bought a retail synthesizer was 4 years ago. I now regret that because I could have found it for $200 less.

It still deserves to get shat on because of the amount of under served praise it gets evens it out.

Hi guys. Are korg padKontrols good to play sampels from? Someone's selling one for cheap and I need something that can do that

>>48063370
Where are you looking that sells nice condition second hand blofelds for $399.99? Or if we're going used, $250? A once in a lifetime Craigslist deal doesn't count.

soundcloud.com/tarrabyte

random shit I come up with. I work with anything I can.
A lot of times I make what i can. If I like something I will continue to the best of my ability. The only thing I am having trouble with is automotive clips. I can't get them to work. I figured I'm doing something wrong and I do what the tutorials say. if someone has an answer please tell me

>>48062845

That's quite possibly the saddest bragging I've ever heard in my entire life.

>>48063423
Well I did miss a Blofeld for $250 once on Craigslist.

Ended up getting mine for about $350 though, through a forum.

>>48062960
BSIIs sound like dogshit. If it's the guy I'm thinking of I told him exactly why those DCOs made it sound sterile and lacking in character and I think he got a little upset.

He got very upset. He gets buttmad every time somebody hints at the BSII not being the best ever. He even refused to compare it to the minibrute, which is the same price. He also went on to ramble about midi parameter control as if it matters in a monosynth.

>>48062845
i bet they're like shitty bog-standard nuts tho aren't they. nothing special like.

i'm talking like a bag of salted kp jumbo mate

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https://soundcloud.com/spliffandbass/
>dubstep
>drum & bass
>bass music

>>48064074
>spliff and bass

u smke weed?

>bass music
How doesn't he?

>>48064171
haha ya, weed and bleeps go great together.

>>48063093
wow

>>48064200
wow have u ever smked a bong b4?

>>48064216
I actually did 2 marijuanas today

>>48063971
what would you prefer as a mono synth in that price range then?

>>48064206
Yeah, I try to downplay it.

This doesn't really belong on the Dead Cats SC, but I don't know where else to put it. I made this a while back, when I didn't have any idea about production or anything. I'm interested in cleaning it up, but what improvements do you think need made? It's like a weird industrial/aggrotech thing.

https://soundcloud.com/dead-cats/enemy/s-4KA7S

>>48064257
yeah that's pretty legit. I can only dream of having something like that at my disposal right now. it reminds me of sweetwater or someone giving away a voyager XL for free in a drawing a couple months ago.

>>48064321
Yeah, hello music did something like that too. Would make one hell of a controller for a modular synth

>>48064256
A Minibrute. Okay it's only got one VCO but it has a vintage sound that I think is extremely desirable in a monosynth. That and each knob controls one specific function, the workflow is pretty flawless. The BSII has features coming out of its ass but I just can't dig the sound and that's the most important thing that counts against it for me.

>>48064452
you make a good point, but can't you argue that if you're after a more modern clubby sound, the BSII wouldn't be bad? I think that and the number of parameters/features allow it to content against the minibrute

>>48064452
>vintage sound
This phrase is so meaningless

I'd say the brutes are fully capable of clubby sounds. The big beef with the bass station is that it's pretty sterile sounding.

>>48064717
Perhaps I used the wrong term. The Minibrute has the sound of synths produced around late 70s that I really like whilst the Bass Station has a very 80s sound that I can't really dig. It's down to those DCOs, everything just sounds a little pristine and perfect.

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https://soundcloud.com/huntr33
new song will be up soon, not completely happy with it, been learning a lot about mastering and improving my sounds the past few days and getting good results

one problem is using the compressor in ableton live to sidechain, i keep getting a click on my synths and bass, i read that this is just because its a shit compressor, any suggestions?

OK, maybe a stupid question, but how do I into 808? I mean, I never really liked its sounds except for the kick, but I've been told that you can get some pretty neat sounds after putting the outputs through effects. Any ideas, or at least some examples I could check out?
(yes, I'm pretty much a newbie. But since I'm curious what you could get out of it, I might as well ask)

>>48065718
there is endless effects and variations, by the time you are done with it, it might night even sound 808 anymore

just play around and find the right sound yourself depending on what you are going for

>>48065718
what kind of dumb question is this? you either like a sound or you dont. of course the 808 kick is shit. if you're into trap/drill then the snare and hats are great too. and the cowbell is great for any synth heavy genre. of course with the vast array of available effects you can put on a sample, even a raw sample that you initially hate can be made into something cool.

>>48065718
Ive always like the sound of drum machines through phasers. Especially the hats.

Good sounds can also be had by running them into an envelope follower controlling a filter.

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>>48065814
>808 kick
>shit

LOL

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https://soundcloud.com/cpaws/wildfire-cpaws-festival-trap-remix-preview

>Festival Trap
>Party
>Chillout

Been working on mastering with izotope ozone 5, any tips using it / video links?

how many posts do these threads typically last for?

>>48066789
They usually make it to the bump limit and autosage. Even last for a good number of posts after that. Then somebody usually makes another one soon after.

So I have the opportunity to purchase a DX7 or a DX21. the DX21 is a little cheaper and they look about the same. should I go for the DX21 or pay the extra buck fifty for the DX7?

>>48067275
How much is the DX7? And is it just a plain DX7 MK 1?

I'd advise against the 21, unless it's under $100

>>48051226
>nike janoskis

lol

>>48067531
a DX7 is 300. i dunno if it's an mk1 or anything,

the 21 was 150 but i just talked the guy down to 100 with a sob story. why would you advise against the 21? what's the big dif btwn the two?

>>48067714
4 OP instead of 6 OP
8 voices instead of 16
No velocity or aftertouch

The DX7 just sounds more full and has more programmability and playability. Both of those prices seem pretty fair. Your call really.

>>48067871
OP meaning operator, or how many oscillators per voice. Yamaha calls them operators because they're combined with an envelope, and used to modulate the other OPs. That's basically the big concept behind FM synthesis. So more OPs = more programmability.

>>48067871
>>48067909
damn, that sounds like a lot to sacrifice, but i think i am gonna go with the 21, i control all non velocity sensitive synths with a controller anyway,thanks

>>48068002
Yeah, and the keybed on the DX7 is said to be nice. But you'll never be unable to find another DX7, they made thousands of imperial fuck tons of them.

The 21 does have the advantage of doing layers and splits at the cost of polyphony, so a layer will leave you with only 4 voices. It also has a monophonic unison mode too.

>>48068053
is it polyphonic in the same way that the poly800 is polyphonic? where they sound like they all share the same voice?

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>>48060185
Renoise is da bomb nigga. it's dat true shit

I noticed people don't really use trackers or talk about them here. this needs to change!

Everyone who uses standard DAW's go download a tracker like Renoise right now! the demo is great btw
or if ur interested in chip sounds check out sunvox. it's free and pretty crazy

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>>48068283
No, FM synthesis doesn't work that way. There are no filters.

Each voice in the DX7 has 6 OPs, that are configured by which algorithm you use, per voice. Each voice of the DX21 has 4 OPs per voice. Doing some math, the 7 has 96 digital oscillators and envelopes total, the 21 has a grand total of 32.

Pic related shows the different was the 6 operators can be arranged. So for every voice, that same algorithm is generating the tone.

This page might help you out:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr00/articles/synthsecrets.htm

>>48068387
with Renoise are you dependent on soundfonts or samples you provide yourself? I've used LSDJ before, but as far as using trackers for non chip stuff, i've not gone very far. although the idea of preexisting soundfonts is kinda cool

>>48068387
Jordan Rudess convince me to get sunvox. Perhaps it's because I didn't red to see that stupid beard when he demo'd it.

>>48068565
Need to see*
Goddamn it autocorrect

>>48068491
renoise is pretty much barebones kinda dealio when it comes to sounds, the native plug ins are A+. and sampling in Renoise is really great.

the sunvox i mentioned has some preexsitnasnntnsnantt synths you can fool around with to get some really unique sounds, almost modular. i had it on my phone and made a few tracks with it once upon a time

So I just picked up two Rack synths this week. Got a Kurzweil k2000rs and a Roland JV-1080.

The JV-1080 is pretty fucking great and I've only had it for a few hours. Came with a few expansion cards (SFX, World, Voice, Asia). The SFX is by-far the best of the bunch while the stock sounds are pretty great too. Probably going to pick up the Techno expansion in a few weeks and I want to get the Vintage Synth card eventually. All in all a pretty nice steal at $90.

The k2000 is pretty good. The guy threw in a fuckton of floppies with the synth. Some of the presets are good while others sound very synthetic. Made a couple of "analog" preset that sound pretty great for a 90s digital synth. So it might not be all bad.

I'm pretty much done getting shit for a while. Spent like $500+ this week on equipment.

>>48068642
Also got an Akai S2000. Not sure how it really works, so I might resell it.

>>48068486
i didnt know how much i didnt kno about fm synthesis this is good stuff, thanks

>>48068711
No problem. There's tons of misconceptions about FM synthesis, including that it's hard to program. You just need to know the concepts behind it, the. It becomes a cakewalk.

>>48068689
>>48068642
You might want to hang on to the S2000, it's pretty well regarded and desired and you might regret selling it later on. Best to hang on until you do know what you can do with it, and decide to sell it then.

As for the K2000r, I'm mad jelly, those things are just plain magic in the right hands.

I wouldn't be so impressed by the JV-1080 but that price is a steal, great job.

>>48068869
I'm not being serious about selling the s2000, I'm just frustrated by the 2-line mini-screen and the menus. It works just fine and just put 32mb of RAM in it. Got the manual for the K2000r and S2000. But they're both long as fuck, especially the k2000r. I'll probably fuck around the s2000 more when I get a power supply for my mpd26.