We regard Sufjan Stevens as one of the poster children for metamodernism, and no discussion of metamodernism in popular music is complete without taking a look at his work. Notable for weaving together Christian symbology with storytelling that is equally compelling in a secular context, Sufjan’s style and its evolution offer a view into one slice of the epistemic transition from postmodernism to metamodernism.
In 1975, Sufjan Stevens was born in Michigan to hippie parents who exposed him and his five siblings to a wide variety of religious traditions, with Sufjan himself eventually settling on Christianity. He explored his musicality in high school at the Interlochen Academy of the Arts, then at Hope College, and later his talent for creative writing in a graduate program at the New School in NYC. Somewhere in there, he crossed paths with Daniel Smith and his band The Danielson Famile, which was an arguably rare example of a truly postmodern Christian indie rock band.
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>>70671439
Digression about the Danielsons: As documented in the film, Danielson: A Family Movie, in 1993, while a senior at Rutgers University, Daniel Smith had a spiritual awakening and determined that his purpose was to spread the gospel of Christ through music. He formed The Danielson Famile with his brothers and sisters and some friends. With lyrics that were a mixture of quirky and unabashedly Christian, plus bizarre, musically unconventional arrangements, shrill, squeaky vocals, and goofy stage props, dance moves and costumes (as an example, for many years the band performed in matching nurse uniforms), the Danielson Famile shocked Christian rock and Indie rock audiences alike, but charmed a select few from both groups, earning themselves a cult following. We consider the Danielson Famile to be a rare example of a truly postmodern Christian band because they never let up on the project of disrupting musical and/or thematic expectations. Most of the time when a Christian impulse is run through a pomo filter, it comes out metamodern on the other end, because Christianity, by its very nature, insists on a core of certainty, which would be incongrous with postmodernism. There is certainty in Daniel Smith’s lyrics, for sure, but sonically and emotionally, the songs maintain their postmodern stance by never letting the listener relax into a state of earnest appreciation.
OK, back to our main subject. One of the friends of the Danielsons who participated in their band from time to time was Sufjan, who learned to play drums on the fly in order to support them. From the Danielson Famile, we can conjecture, Sufjan inherited an aesthetic of wacky, over-the-top showmanship, which he brought into his visual presentation, both in live performance and album-cover art, once he evolved into a musical force in his own right.
Best song is Djohariah.
ITT: Artists that you have tried to like/get into several times but just can't.
To me that's Björk. Can't get into her music not even if my life depended on it. The remix of All Is Full Of Love is great though. I also have issues enjoying most of Pink Floyd's stuff.
Same desu. Love the production but her voice comes off as way too forced to me
Can, and Swans
Decent production, shitty voice. As "talented" as female vocalists are supposed to be, they never tend to have the soul of their male counterparts. Too fake. Only operatic females are any good.
Not sure if correct board; please direct me to the correct board if not.
How the fuck do I whistle in tune? Learned to whistle 2 weeks ago and been whistling nonstop since then, most likely at the demise of those around me. I'm jsut trying to whistle songs I'm listening to and while sometimes it goes well, other times its just way off. How does one begin to learn musical notes and identifying notes by ear? and how the fuck does one WHISTLE that shit?
>>70671321
>Learned to whistle 2 weeks ago
Are you retarded?
>>70671837
well obviously not because i managed to learn
ITT: you give me legitimate reasons why this isn't the greatest album in recent memory
>>70671252
>recent
>15 years old
Kill me...this thing came out 15 years ago...
I can't
>>70671290
>we are closer to 2030 than we are to 2000
Is Pantera the only post 90's band of white people that aren't self loathing self hating pussies?
the great southern trendkill is full of self-loathing. Its also their best
you don't know very much about phil do you
you sound like somone who thinks a lot about politics
ok
Overproduced.
>>70671076
stupid buzzword
sage
Let's finally end the debate: Which is better?
Progressive Dreamfunk is unironically better
Name 3 albums from each genre
go ahead I'll wait
>>70671000
>albums
yeah if you listen to "albums" these aren't the genres for you. That's like saying name 3 mozart albums
It's Saturday Night why isn't this happening?
>>70670882
rollerinos
Rollerini
they see me rollin
>decide to listen to some radiohead
>hey this is pretty good
>lyrics and vocals happens
such good instrumentals ruined by such shitty singing
better vocals than this
"Thom, you don't need to eat the fucking mic, just take a step back and sing into it"
>>70671006
hey fuck off you fucking herbiefag
Fox News host Greg Gutfeld calls RHCP the worst band on the planet. Flea says haters gonna hate.
http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/08/fox-news-calls-red-hot-chili-peppers-the-worst-band-on-the-planet/
http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/08/flea-responds-to-fox-news-red-hot-chili-peppers-hate-its-clearly-a-funny-program/
Well, Gutfeld's not exactly wrong about them being the worst band on the planet and all that.
flamings lips are worse
is Greg /ourguy/
>>70670833
>70670833
lmao this
Flaming Lips make some seriously boring shit
If you take it apart it's a relatively simple album. Don't get why it's so popular around here
cause ppl love slapping labels on things and making cool kids' clubs
In terms of conventional composition/songwriting yeah it's pretty simple. But in terms of production work and certain kinds of sampling it's anything but simple. The songwriting/composition aspect of the record has been purposefully left to be simple and easy to follow so the listener is paying attention to the movement happening within the timbres themselves rather than just from pitch.
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>>70670588
Is this post-hop?
it's post-music t b h
No, but this is.
no, it's just the most experimental album
>takes lsd once
im pickin up good vibrations
>takes lsd one thousand times and is very old*
Let's get a 5x5 weekly thread started same as usual you know what to do (h8,rec,etc,)
yeh ok alri
>>70670270
how 2 scrobble on linux?
>>70671538
paint.net
Can we talk about Tame Impala and this album?
>>70670051
Shitty hipster psych
>>70670051
Shitty hipster psych
>>70670066
Boi this album is straight fire. Alter Ego is the fucking best.