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posers honestly
hipsterfags actually listen to the music theyre shilling but posers dont

i'm not a pessimist im an optometrist

>>74285614
>For me, they both suck
wow good thread OP

>>74285227
Yoko Ono

Siamese Dream.

this album sucks anon
sage

>>74284735
what the fuck

>>74284735
crazy frog, cotton eyed joe, mamba No. 5

>>74284735
https://youtu.be/YA25vs4c2vs

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>>74284667
coffee

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>>74284667
Drone my chart.

>>74285065
The Orchids ?

>>74284667
>>74285323
Why do you guys tripfag?

>>74284419
Form your own opinion.

Listen to the Unforgettable Fire and then come back

>>74284419
Bono is a wanker

Bass players get bullied on /my/mu/

>Take Les Paul
>Replace strings with bass strings
>Use effects pedals
Become revolutionary

Rickenbacker 4003 and there's no discussion. Preferably dark blue.

>>74284288
*tackleglomps u* x3 *notices bulge in ur pants* owo what's this???

>>74284288
Fuck it, it's a five

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>>74284288
Delete this

Antennas to Heaven

>>74284248
Storm is really good but Sleep is too reminiscent of The Dead Flag Blues to leave an impact and the political undertones of the music are just laughable. Try again.

You're correct about SAW2

Ready to Die is far superior to Life After Death and no album that contains Playa Hater can be considered great

Again, it's not like Smith's music is bad (although the clunky beat of "Pictures of Me" that sounds like it's a half-beat too fast for Smith's 'singing' comes close), and I daresay Either/Or, up against its deadly dull competition, offers up more momentary pleasures (key word: momentary) than any of Smith's other albums. I like the awkward pause followed by a sad, gentle nudge forward in "Alameda" when he sings 'for one or two...minutes she liked you'; I like the drum fills in "Speed Trials" (even though they're pasted into the song poorly; fragmented), and the way he sings the word 'sockets' is pretty disturbing. The electric guitar lines in "Cupid's Trick" portend something serious if not important. "Rose Parade" and "Say Yes" are tuneful, and the line about tripping over a dog's choke-chain in the former, though ironic, is at least ghoulishly ironic.

Mostly, though, this music is unremarkable, imbued with significance by lazy Gen-Xers and their impressionable followers, simply because they care more about the story than about the music. Y'see, Elliott Smith was a tormented guy whose life would make a dramatic biopic, so by extension his music must be poignant too — that's the logic. (This is the same lazy and backhandedly cynical thinking that turned Daniel Johnston into a cult figure.) Certainly I've never seen any write-up about the guy that's ever come close to ringing true about why Smith's music stands out from all the other bullshit agoraphobic modern indie, and every time I see someone lazily throw out Smith's name as an example of a 'great melodist,' I just feel embarrassed for everyone involved.

Thing is, Smith isn't 'fucking up the simplest lines,' as he sings whispers in one song, because he doesn't have the balls to be truly ragged and off-the-cuff. No, no — these songs are supposed to signify, but not with any immediacy; they're practiced and rehearsed and carefully written. Problem is, they still weren't worth writing in the first place; you end up straining to make out lyrics that end up not being worth the trouble. I remember first hearing him sing about the cathedral with its 'glass stained black' in "Speed Trials" and thinking to myself, 'Of course. Of course it's black. What else was it gonna be in this guy's hands?'

But oh, how morbidly ironic he is! How affectedly brazen he says the word 'fuckin'' when he sings 'down on my fuckin' knees'! How liberating it is when he says 'You can do what you want whenever you want to,' which, ironic or not, inadvertently parodies the very people who try to slip into Smith's tiny, insignificant shoes — people who claim independence through indifference but actually just reveal themselves as utter tools by merely being complacent. I've always thought that people who claim indifference as spiritual superiority are some of the most insufferable people in the world, and ultimately "Ballad of Big Nothing" is the most fitting and unintentionally hilarious title for this type of music. Christ, can you imagine how much of a sociopath you'd have to be to actually listen to this stuff for pleasure? 'So sick and tired of all these pictures of me' — yeah, sure you are, dude.

Do I doubt that Elliott Smith's personal depression was real and awful? Of course not — I mean, look at the way he decided to leave. But his struggles were his and only his, and to paraphrase someone else writing about someone else, the harsh truth probably lies somewhere between the man and his dealer. Moreover, the fact remains that the depression that comes across in the music isn't particularly bracing or poignant or (certainly not) profound — it's just frail, which I guess we're supposed to equate with purity. It's Nick Drake for people who don't wanna think particularly hard, except that Nick Drake, for all his sadness, always expressed a sort of fragile wonder at the world and the totality of it all quietly bearing down on him; there was a feeling of struggling against it in a humble and beautiful way. Not so with Smith — and that's even leaving aside the fact that Drake actually played guitar in an interesting way, a way that you couldn't just hear by taking a lunch-hour trip to the least-frequented stairwell of any suburban high school.

I'm gonna repeat and add to something I've said about such other non-entities as Justin Vernon (who at least has a more interesting voice), Iron & Wine, and Will Oldham: that Elliott Smith's music is mostly for people who don't actually know what real depression feels like, but would like to think they do because it makes a cool fashion statement; people who barely listen to any music made before 1991 and rarely listen to music made by black people unless Pitchfork tells them it's okay; people who think the '90s were an Important Decade For Art; people who pretend that there's no objective, qualitative differences between anything (because it's easier that way, y'know?); people who think leaving their room is a struggle worthy of the civil rights movement.

>>74283840
Check out releases from Posh Isolation and Janushoved.

Alva Noto - Xerrox vol. 2
Belong - October Language
Zeitkratzer & Keiji Haino
Rainforest Spiritual Enslavement

These are all pretty soft compared to what you posted though.

Jefre Cantu-Ledesma - In summer

It's literally a noise love album

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>>74283813
There's not much difference between a power trio and the traditional rock format of vocalist, guitarist, bassist, drummer. Most guitarists in power trios build a part lead, part rhythm sort of style, and the bass is usually more prominent.

Sleep is good
Boris too, although they're not really a traditional power trio
Cream
Rush

>>74283813
Give The Who a listen, since that's basically it.

big mumble rap fan

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His sister's songs.

>>74283705
He said on a recent episode of his podcast that he's been enjoying alt rock lately

>>74283642
Pretty much all late 90's Industrial Metal and Nu Metal.

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DES

>>74283642
>dead grips

>1 or 2 bar drum break with a phaser on it

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>>74283454
>phasered high speed bullet effect kickdrums

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>song has a synth bass in it that sounds like a fart