Reminder that Glimmer is pink, not purple.

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Reminder that Twilight's mane is blue, not purple, so Ember is colorblind or full of shit.

>>30961089
That's kind of a purplish pink

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Reminder that 8% of men are colorblind—a startlingly high percentage—and many of them don't know it. If you see 21, 71, or 98, you are colorblind.

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>>30961105
Heliotrope pink.

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Google

>Heliotrope is a pink-purple tint
>pink-purple
>purple

Pink is made from mixing red and white. So it's, in fact, red. Violet, or purple, is made from red and blue. To achieve this pink-purple color, you need to mix some blue in. Ergo, it is a mixture of red and blue—purple. Primary colors win out. So purple.

Gg.

>>30961107
74

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>>30961180
Pink is desaturated red. Is pink red?

Desaturate heliotrope enough and it becomes pink.

Calling Glimmer purple is like calling Celestia pink.

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>>30961089
left is purplish pink, right is pink

>>30961233
Purplish pink is a shade of pink.

>>30961089
Pretty sure that's the color of cancer m8

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>>30961196

>>30961196
>Pink is desaturated red.
>Is pink red?

Yes. You just told me, because there's no way to avoid this. This is how primary colors work. So you have a desaturated purple, but it's still purple. And no, maybe some people see her as plain pink; but to the rest of us, she looks more purple than she does pink. Maybe we can spot the blue influences better, I don't know. The whole point of calling things purple is to point out said distinction. Once you throw blue into your red (influenced) color, you have purple. No two ways about it. Pink comes second.

>>30961286
>Thinks Glimmer is purple
>Thinks pink is red
Behold the corrosion of language.

>>30961311
>understanding the basics of colors is a corrosion of language

Yeah, sure it is. If you want to argue the corrosion of language, you can complain about not being able to define pink without bringing up red I.E. reality.

>>30961233
maybe I'm stupid but the one on the left looks pink and the one on the right looks orange

>>30961330
>"Is pink red?"
>"Yes."
You have your head so far up your ass that you're like one of those academics who thinks race is a social construct.

>>30961333
Same, the one on the right is salmon pink, which is a sort of orange.

>>30961338

>>30961338
>>pink is desaturated red

An adjective doesn't change this. It's still red at the end of the day. Having the primary colors take priority in labeling colors overall is about as objective as you can get. Shitty comparison.

>>30961356
>"Is pink red?"
>"Yes."
Nothing more needs to be said.

>>30961365
>says pink is red
>asks if pink is red
>get assblasted when someone says it's red

Nothing more needs to be said.

>>30961107
>21
>98
that's rather schizophrenia

>>30961374
I asked if pink is red rhetorically to make a point. I am shocked you actually said yes.

Pink is not red. Pink is pink and red is red. Pinkie Pie is not red, and Big Mac is not pink.

But you think Pinkie Pie is red, because that's how insanely delusional you are. "Pink is red."

>>30961196
>>30961311

Did you not take an art class? Every color is a version or combination of red, yellow, and blue.

>>30961107
You mean 74?

>>30961406
When you're colorblind and you know there's supposed to be numbers and you can maybe barely see something, the brain fills in details that aren't there.

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>>30961089
Wrong

>>30961425
Not pink.

>>30961426
The lighter green isn't as easy to see in the thumbnail, but it is 74. 71 is if you don't see the lighter green.

>>30961433
Desaturate heliotrope enough and it becomes pink. Desaturate it even more and it becomes white. Saturation changes what we call a color.

>>30961416
But we are arguing the name or labeling of a color. That's the truth of it, plain and simple. That means dissecting and breaking it down by primaries. That's how it works, because our names for other colors are shorthand for RBY mixes, shades, or tints. That's the objective reality, and we just add additional names for convenience. Scientifically and pedantically speaking yes, pink is red(-white) just as green is blue-yellow. The argument is what the end product should be called in the first place or which name is more correct based on what primary colors are used here. That means breaking down every color to red, blue, or yellow and seeing which fits best. For primary colors you have red and blue here. What would you call that? Our convenient label for this is purple. I think there being two primary colors overrules pink which is just one desaturated primary color. I'd say that's also the opposite of language corrosion as it's more accurate and uniform to label it this way. It clearly has blue mixed in which is why it does look more purple than it does pink to some people.

I'm arguing this is a type of purple first and foremost under the classification every color goes through. It doesn't mean I'm throwing the concept of pink under the bus; that's your bias leaking through and not understanding that some people don't see it as pink in the first place. Only stating that pink a sub par shorthand for heliotrope, which acknowledges purple, because it doesn't mention that there's blue in there whereas purple does.

TL;DR semantics

labeling all primaries used > saturation

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>>30961614
saturation > labeling all primaries used

If we did it your way, we would call Celestia red.

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>>30961089

>>30961717
>thinking those two colors are the same

>>30961094
>>30961124
This is fucking with my mind.

>>30961630
This is all well and good until you use two primaries. Then you have misleading labels like calling something composed of red and blue "pink" and just "pink". Why would you just call this pink? This is why purple is a word in the first place. That implies only red is there. People are saying purple, because they can clearly tell it's not only desaturated red. Saturation as priority only makes sense if there's merely one primary or if it's nigh-white/black so as to barely be visible at a glance. Otherwise, you have an easily visible mixture of primary colors and using a secondary that ignores this will just be plain inaccurate.

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>>30961717

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WOW! Glimmer is so amazing

>>30961723
>>30961734

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>>30961739
She's not mauve.

>>30961425
Only in paints you dummy. It's not like it's some fundamental property of colors. In fact, the monitor you're using probably uses red, green, and blue as its primary colors.

>>30961723
Hue is showing what color it derives from. Pink is derived from red, while muave from violet.
It's purple my dude.

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>>30961751

>>30961766
>thinking Glimmer is any of those

>>30961771
It's a palatte, it doesn't cover the entire set. I think you know you've lost, but you're arguing because you want to.

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>>30961778
Glimmer is pink. Light heliotrope of is pink. Here is Glimmer next to a bunch of purple. Glimmer is pink. End of story.

>>30961791
Dude I came in here not knowing whether she was pink or not. After entering in the RGB value from OP'S picture you can see that it's derived from violet, and is a shade of muave. She is muave, and muave is a pale purple. Just google image muave and you'll see she falls I'm that range. To me it seems you don't really care wether or not she's pink, you just want her to be pink. I don't really care at this point, you don't seem interested in listening to reason.

>>30961791
Any amount of blue in red, even just 1%, makes it purple. Pink is just red with white mixed in.

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>>30961859
If you enter the RGB value for Celestia's color, you'll see that it's a shade of red. Wow, real convincing.

>>30961791
did they fucked?

>>30961754
Kind of? I'd say light wavelength adheres closer to paints. The thing about RGB yellow is that it's an illusion on your cones that sends a bit of red and green on your monitor. Both R and G cones are active when you see yellow since the wavelength falls between them. But it's not "real" yellow, no smooshed R or G, that you'd see in the flesh like light with a wavelength of about 570 nn. I'd also say the standard we set based on the "natural world" takes precedence when arguing these things on top of being easier to observe what's behind the curtain.

>>30961791
Nope
>>30961726

Thread should've ended here.

>>30961919
>>30961890
Thread should end here.

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>>30961089
>implying that isnt purple

>>30961937
Already addressed. Saturation as priority only makes sense in certain contexts. It's not nigh-white or black and it's not standalone. There's no reason to not acknowledge the prescene of blue.

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>>30961963
>It's not nigh-white
But it is nigh-pink.

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>>30961196
It's light red

>>30961982
It's not pink though, because it's not only red. Pink is only to be used when there is only red. Once you mix red and blue like that, it's going to look purple until you reach a saturation where it's nearly white or nearly black. Everything else is going to be visibly purple in some way, because red and blue are there. You can't hide it until you get way more (de)saturated than that. Hence why it's disputed in the first place; that's already a sign that it's not adequately desaturated enough to ignore blue and call it an offshoot of pure red.

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>>30962051
>Pink is only to be used when there is only red
Obviously not, because Glimmer is pink, as tons of people agree. "Pink Mary Sue," etc, most people call her pink.

Pic related: pink vs purple

>>30962010
good reference

this thread reminds me of Twilight dying her mane

>>30961948
Um, technically she's Pale, light grayish heliotrope. R 237, G 187, B 243

I'll take my answer off the air!

>>30962062
*Purple and light purple.

Most people can't pronounce loch; it doesn't make them right. And tons of people call her purple too. It's the sensible choice when you can see blue. Hence heliotropic which is said to be both in the first place.

>>30962073
Glimmer dyes her mane. No way that green stripe is natural.

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>>30962088
This, and pale light heliotrope is a shade of pink.

>>30961791
She still looks purple just a lighter shade.

>>30962149
Heliotrope is defined as a pink-purple. The grammar structure says it all. Much like a seaman is a man of the sea and not a manlike sea. It is pinklike or pinkish purple which means it's more purple than it is pink. Ultimately purple.

>>30962149
How does she not look purple to you here?

>>30962169
What number do you see? >>30961107

>>30962168
If heliotrope is pink-purple, then highly desaturated/pale heliotrope is purple-pink, ultimately pink.

>>30962236
No. The base color is and always will be purple, so it's desaturated purple.

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>>30962262
The base color of Pinkie Pie is red, so Pinkie Pie is desaturated red.

Oh wait, that's called pink.

Highly desaturated pale heliotrope is called pink.

>>30962279
See >>30962168. Heliotrope is purple. Desaturated purple is not pink.

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>>30962295
Yes it is. Highly desaturated purple is like mixing 20% with 80% pink—take 80% of the red out, desaturate it to pink, desaturate the blue in the other 20%, then mix the 20% light bluish-purple with the 80% pink, and it's heliotrope-pink.

>>30962325
>then mix the light bluish-purple

So it's not desaturated red aka pink, it's still desaturated purple. It's purple by definition.

>>30962279
I believe Pvt. Donut will disagree with you.

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>>30962357
Lots of shades of pink have some blue in them. They're still pink.

Pic related is from the wikipedia page on "pink."

>>30962419
That's not uniform. Some of that -is- purple. Starlight's coat is a straight blend and not nearly as desaturated as it's made out to be. Seriously, even if we're going by %, 20% is a lot and not something you can just call pink. It's an inadequate description. Even her designer called her purple iirc.

>>30961333
the one on the right has no other color than pure red, the left has a tint of blue, hence why its more purple

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>>30961094
It would be the only way that makes sense.

>>30962594
Exactly. If she's RG-colorblind, Glimmer's green stripe looks like Twilight's red stripe.

Also
>Glimmer's stripe is green in the thumbnail but pink in the full image
What is this sorcery?

>>30961258
>try me arrow pointing to her ass

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>>30962612

>>30961107
I saw 71 and started to panic then I opened the image. Looks like im just distance colourblind otherwise known as; Old.

>>30962223
74, Glimglam is purple.

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>>30962773
74, Glimmer is pink.

>>30962795
>up the brightness, saturation and red
Well she fucking is now.

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>>30962839
Dailymotion sometimes does that.

Here's from my .mkv. Glimmer is pink.

>>30962875
That's terribly desaturated. Glimmer outline and mane are purple and coat is pink, though

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>>30962883
It's not desaturated. I checked it against the official color guide and it's spot-on.

>>30961089
Reminder that OP is colorblind.

>>30962901
You can see how desaturated it is just by looking at TS mane highlights. It's either your rip or your player that is fucked up

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>>30962937
Nope, checked her highlights against the official color guide (https://mlpvc-rr.ml/cg/v/1-Twilight-Sparkle), and it's spot-on.

You're just used to oversaturated dailymotion rips.

>>30962875
More pink but still purple
>>30962901
Purple
Clearly something is going on with your sources.

>tfw color blind so none of this matters

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>>30963008
Glimmer is the exact same color in >>30962875 and >>30962901 and pic related.

Something is wrong with your eyes or brain where what a color is surrounded by makes it appear different to you.

>>30963059
You, friend, need to look up what constitutes the color pink. Pink is RED, not blue.

>>30963011
Does >>30962594 look normal to you?

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>>30962963
Well, something is fucked. Left is how it looks when I open your image on paint (and has the same RGB as the official guide), right is how it looks when you posted

>>30963081
Holy shit, it desaturaded even more, what the fuck

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>>30963068
If you think pic related is purple, I don't even know what to say anymore. Glimmer is not blue, and she is not purple. She is technically very light heliotrope, which is a shade of pink.

>>30963081
Left is how what I posted looks to me. Something is wrong with your computer.

>>30963069
it looks lighter

>>30963097
But it is purple. It's a very red purple, but still slightly blue, so still purple. Please get this through your thick skull.

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>>30963143
The entire background changed from green to red, but to you, green = red.

I wonder what color you see. Do you green? Or do you see red? Or some other color I can't imagine?

>>30961089
Reminder that nobody cares about your shit waifu.

>>30963172
i can only see greys and whites and darks

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>>30963186
Oh wow, you're full monochrome. That's really rare.

>>30963197
waiting for a cure ahaha
just want to see what my waifu looks like in normal eyes :D

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>>30963208
You were born without cone cells; color is beyond your comprehension. Even if medicine reaches the capability of doing eye transplants, I don't know if your brain would handle it.

>>30963254
:c

>>30963097
>Durrrr Glimmer is pink because I think she is! Durrr hurrrr.

This is the most embarrassing argument I've ever seen on /mlp/. Color is objective, and the human species has been scientifically classifying them for centuries. We know how to do this. Yet here you are, saying your opinion is right while the facts are wrong. Just LMFAO little boy.

>>30962740
Me too.

>>30963572
What we call a color is not objective; it's all fuzzy lines. Is Celestia white or pink or red? Among other things, context is important.

>>30963677
objective?

>>30963677
color is a measurable, tangible thing like everything else that exists

>>30964025
Show me the UN guideline that tells me the exact list of hex values that are "chartreuse."

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>>30961089
Is this going to be our equivalent of the dress debate?

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This is Twilight and Starlight now. Ember wasn't just referring to their colors. She was also referring to their opinions, their points of view and the roles that they play in a situation.

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>>30964263
Moron. There are so many things idiotic about what you just said, not the least of which is that she had never even met Starlight before.

>>30964285
Lol.

>>30961089
reminder that glimmerfags should be gassed

>>30964285
This someone we can play with?

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>>30964263
Maybe Ember meant Twilight is "purple" in that she is so extravagant, ornate, and flowery that she draws excessive attention to herself.