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Lauren drops Medusa due to creative differences.

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-film/lauren-faust-no-longer-directing-medusa-sony-pictures-animation-exclusive-122954.html
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>>25538332

Inb4 medusa turn into a princess
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>>25538332

Wow Lauren just walk out of another project halfway though after thowing a temper tantrum when it gets "too hard"
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>>25538332
Why? Why would she do this?
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>>25538332
i wonder what thing she would do if she were in charge for once?
we don't count
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>>25538366
>>25538368
>>25538332
>what is creative integrity
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>>25538395
>>what is creative integrity
Something that's not compatible with today's entertainment industry.
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>>25538395

I'll cite Lucas as an example of how something can turn out much better when you have someone "holding you back" as opposed to "unfettered creative integrity"
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>>25538411
Then good artists should quit in protest just like she does. Until they do, nothing will change.

>>25538442
That's called having someone "propping you up".
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>>25538462
>>25538411
>Tartakovsky and all his shit
>Kojima/Guillermo del Toro on Silent Hills
>now this

fucking industry
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>People doesn't sell them to tjhe shitty industry
>OH NO HOW THEY DARE DO THIS
Are we so full of shills? go back to the paperwork, faggots.
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>>25538462
>just quit

Then nothing will happen. Better to have a filter on things at times instead of a stream of shit coming out.
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>>25538489
Kojima was a retard with his budget, though. Mocap and a new engine for a game, seriously?
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>>25538332
This is going to look mighty bad on her resume.

Who is going to employ her now? Or does she hope to make bank with TFH?

Dream on.
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>>25538503
He was a brilliant motherfucker though.
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>>25538395
Sure is creative when you never finish a project.
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>>25538491
>>25538462
I understand the point of creative integrity and I understand how shitty the animation industry can be, but sometimes you have to make these sacrifices if you want to survive in it. If Faust keeps on quitting jobs because of her respectable and admirable principles, I doubt animation studios will continue hiring her or letting her pitch projects.

I want to see more of her work and her creativity. It seems the only way for it to really shine through is if she starts her own studio and works independently from major companies. Considering her business expertise, I don't know if she could handle it or if it will happen.
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>>25538503
Why wouldn't you go all out when you know fit a fact the game is going to be a guaranteed hit? It's a metal gear game. They can afford to splurge.
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>>25538332

She need to work in the lore of TFH, she don't need that movie. TFH will be the next big franchise in the future
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>>25538545
kek
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>>25538395
Artistic integrity is a respectable thing, but no one ever made anything exactly the way they wanted on the first try. You have to be willing to adjust your original plan, and with Lauren backing out of two projects in a row, she's starting to appear inflexible.
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>>25538535
Honestly, if half the fucking world did the shit she did, we wouldn't be all owned to hell and back by the fucking mega corps now.
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>>25538332
Fuck.

Sweet Lauren. >:(
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>>25538545
That's the funniest fucking thing I've read all day. Thank you, anon.
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>>25538462
>Then good artists should quit in protest just like she does.
Then someone else who IS willing to take orders will just come to take your place and nothing will change and you will be an industry pariah.

You can't create change by throwing up your arms and leaving all the time when things don't go your way. You need to create change from within, like how Meghan is doing. She's going higher up, and will actually have a method to influence future directions of the business.
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>>25538566
what was the other one?
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>>25538535
This.

>>25538574
That's true but we unfortunately don't live in that kind of world. You have to play with the cards you're dealt.
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>>25538494
What will happen is they'll be forced to hire some hack who will do whatever they say. Then the project will flop because they hired a hack and they might be forced to reconsider whatever limitations they put on Faust.

>>25538530
>>25538521

It's a thousand times better to walk away from a bad fit than have a shit project staining your resume.

>>25538535
What we should really all do is find someone who might be interested in investing in here, and spam them with mass e-mails to show them that she already has a dedicated, rabid audience that will at least cover the overhead of their first project, giving them time to build up a name.

>>25538566
You're imagining her storming out of a room of polite, reasonable creative types just because she can't deal with other ideas. Her work history doesn't support that. It was much more likely a room full of suits pointing to the scenes where they want the merchandise.

>>25538596
Go to bed Meghan.
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>>25538530
>Sure is creative when you never finish a project

dont talk shit about me, fagget

>>25538503
just look at Far Cry 3
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>>25538596
>You need to create change from within, like how Meghan is doing.
>like how Meghan "every little girl wants to be a princess" is doing

Fuck the fuck right off. She isn't going to take a single risk that threatens her meal ticket. She's going to baa along with the rest of the herd, and you're going to sit right there and keep on gobbling up her shit.
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She'll never make her dream project if she doesn't just bite the bullet once in a while and do what the studio wants or at least come to a compromise.
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Figured it would happen. Tartakovsky left his Popeye movie.
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>>25538619
>le ebin don't believe her lies maymay :DDDDDDDDD
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>>25538332
lol what a foggot
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>>25538640
>if I call it a meme, that means it isn't true!
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>>25538619
>>like how Meghan "every little girl wants to be a princess" is doing

Not true. Even Faust said that quote was taken out of context by retards like you.
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>>25538640
>supporting Trump
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>>25538612
>What will happen is they'll be forced to hire some hack who will do whatever they say. Then the project will flop because they hired a hack and they might be forced to reconsider whatever limitations they put on Faust.
>implying it will flop because Faust left

I'm sure you know that nobody wants to hire someone who's prone to leave at the drop of a hat. She had it and lost it.
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>>25538535

>If Faust keeps on quitting jobs because of her respectable and admirable principles, I doubt animation studios will continue hiring her or letting her pitch projects.

She can still be a leech working in the cartoon of his husband, after all a lot of faggot think that she is the real creator of The Powerpuff Girls and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends
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Working creatively is about compromise...
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Maybe now she will have time to do some actual fuckin lore on the game I backed.
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>>25538663
Faust is a nice lady. Hell of a lot nicer than I am. She was standing on her friend's side even after her friend basically said "No, your way of thinking is wrong and dumb".

No one took ANYTHING out of context. Meghan said what she said, and Lauren chose to defend her friend rather than her own philosophy.

That's why I love Lauren so much, and it's why I'll never forgive that horse-faced cunt.
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>>25538689
Yeah, like that is making her any money...
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>>25538411
>>25538442
>>25538535
>>25538566
>>25538601
>>25538596
>>25538634
>>25538675
>>25538687
>all these industry experts on /mlp/

Maybe you can tell us about some of your recent projects
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>>25538566
tell that to this guy >>25538613

>>25538636
Some day he will be able to finish something, some day...
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>>25538332
When it happens once, you can presume that there were some differences and difficulties regarding various parties.

When it happens twice with the same person involved, you start to connect the dots and realize who the culprit is.
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Someone need to make a medusa pony turning into an alicorn
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>>25538687
This. Sure artist integrity is important, but if you want your work/project to get even better, you also need to be able to listen to feedback.
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>>25538612
>What will happen is they'll be forced to hire some hack who will do whatever they say. Then the project will flop because they hired a hack and they might be forced to reconsider whatever limitations they put on Faust.
Even hacks can make profitable movies. They wouldn't chalk it up to "We can't make any money unless we have those specific people".

And you know who would probably not quit? Younger, upcoming creators who don't have an established history like Lauren and the others have. The kind who are willing to work with the studios because that's what you do when you don't have enough pull. And the kind who can still be talented enough to actually create something good or even great despite what the studio is asking.
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>>25538737
Why would I break NDA on something not finished? You're silly, anon.
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>>25538746

Fuck off meghan
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>>25538750
>you also need to be able to listen to feedback
No shit. It's when the feedback is "let's make character X look more like our badly-designed toy and let's make generic princess #328 have a dark and swarthy love interest" that people start getting miffed.
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>>25538737
Some of us have jobs that we may not like, but do anyway because that's life
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What was the "other" project she also left?
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>>25538703
wow that's delusion level badass
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>>25538757
Yes I'm sure it's coming along nicely :^)
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>>25538771
Boku no Pico.
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>>25538757
Not finished = doesn't count. Will count when finished.
Show us your finished works.
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>>25538767
Jobs which are not creative and have no place in the discussion
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>>25538776
I don't think you're telling the truth
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>>25538771
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>>25538766
>"let's make character X look more like our badly-designed toy"

She forgot she was making a 20 minute commercial for a toy line. That's where her view got skewed. You don't change a company's entire product for your own benefit just to tell a story. You work around it and with them. Compromise is key.
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>>25538766
Someone who doesn't have their head in the clouds knows how to fight and balance.
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>>25538750
To be fair, I think said feedback most likely consisted of "This isn't girly enough!" or something along those lines, or some other form of "feedback" of similar caliber.

I mean, I can understand where both are coming from. Companies do want to make sure they profit from the things they invest it, so it's but natural that they want to go with what is the "norm" to increase the chances of the movie becoming a success.

I do think Faust can compromise, but the clash most likely had something to do with ideology of wanting to bring more variety in female characters, which I think is a good thing even if I aint a feminist personally. More variation in characters is always nice I think.
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>>25538686

I can't blame those anons. After all those cartoon are girly as fuck. Same happened with wander over yonder, look more that a work of Lauren. Probably those cartoon where created by Faust and and her husband just use that idea to make every cartoon, after all the mens have less obstacles in the animation industry
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>>25538767
Why have you wasted your childhood not learning stuff you like to excel in it now and get nice jobs then, faggot?
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>>25538810
I'm not takling about Pony. This guy said "with Lauren backing out of two projects in a row" >>25538566

She left Pony in 2011 and this just happened. I mean, I'm assuming she's done some work in the last 4 years, right? So what is the second "project in a row" she's backed out of?
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Faust had to work with fucking Amy Pascal. The lady who wanted pony Smurfs. So I imagine that it was hard to work with Sony. She probably would really want to go back to Hasbro now...
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>>25538789
How about you first then? What recent finished project has come to fruition from you? If something in the works doesn't count, let's hear your side. Or are you just barking at the wall now?
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>>25538823
Sometimes you have to work from alower position to be where you want to be. Employers are looking for experience rather than degrees these days
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>>25538766
Sure, I didn’t say you need to apply every piece of feedback you receive. However I'm slowly getting the idea that miss Faust is sometimes turning her back to criticism and feedback to easily. There's no prove who's right and wrong in this conflict though.

>>25538817
Yeah I could see that being possible.
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>>25538817

It was more than that.

Lauren spoke about some of the worse offenders at a panel with Larson, stuff that made her mad included:

- Hasbro asking to shoe-horn Pipsqueak in because they wanted a little boy character even though the script was almost finished

- Hasbro hating everything she did with Luna saying "this isnt funny, no kid will find this loud character funny" and also complaints she was too dark

- Complaining everytime any slapstick violence happened

- Flat out shoving her in a tiny closet as writer room even though Pound Puppies staff had a much bigger and proper room that was always empty because both teams had different schedules yet Hasbro didn't let them use anyway.

And more. Hasbro treated the staff like shit.
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>>25538840
I don't claim to know the industry, so that's hardly relevant.
...but if you really need to know, I just got first steam revenue from my story driven game this month, and that's just the most recent finished project.
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She put fart jokes in the latest TFH lore.
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>>25538863
Faust had a workflow method that wasn't standard
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>>25538737
First maybe the people who are saying Lauren's completely in the right should tell us about their projects.
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>>25538857
That's why use your childhood and learn while in school, then you start working part-time the same time you go to college, so when you graduate, you have plenty of experience already.
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>>25538886
Which is...?
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>>25538896
That's retarded.
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>>25538863
Well, that fucking sucks, though sadly I doubt it's unusual in that industry but I assume shit like "Don't do slapstick violence!", Luna shouting and shit being too dark having a lot to do with MLP intended audience being girls too. But again, I can see where the company is coming from, being afraid of losses and possibly blowback from parents complaining about violence in a girl cartoon.
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>>25538921
>>25538896
Not really if TFH is mostly aimed for little boys being a fighting game, which also watch ponies.
There is plenty of porn for the broknees out there so why not throw a bone for kids?
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>>25538896
Not only that, the inbred dragons are a pretty shit idea overall.

>two species in one
>"Which one do I honor?"
>"Choose!"
>"Which one?"
>"Pick! It's for honor!"

I'm guessing they tell others to fuck off if they pick the 'wrong' one or something. I couldn't read anymore of that shit.
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>>25538913
...irrelevant. I don't know animation industry, so I don't claim I do, unlike people quoted in >>25538737 (which wasn't my post, btw)
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>>25538932
Because it is lazy writing for lazy humor. It honestly makes it seem more childish than MLP having extremely stupid characters to the point of ridiculousness and having gross out humor.
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>>25538925

Violence concerns is fine.

Throwing people in a broom closet and being flat out abrasive (she mentioned it was a particular exec that seemed to just dislike the show for no reason) is not okay.
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>>25538896
You are joking right?
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Remember the mails leaked from Sony about the 2017 MLP movie? Now imagine having to work with that kind of people, and them having a bigger say in your project than you, despite not really having anything to do with the project besides being affiliated with the studio, possibly through company name only.
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>>25538952
>...irrelevant.

As is the rest of your post now. So you really don't have anything, huh? Just trying to blow hot air.
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>>25538967
She isn't well known for her writing, but for her good designs.
Or did you all forget about that?
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>>25538989
As much as you say that, Faust tends to have some really bad ideas.
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>>25539001
Just like you then.
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She created a runaway hit and left just as it was picking up steam.

If she really had integrity, she would have stayed with Pony and helped mold it. Instead, she quit early, and the true irony is that the subsequent staff were given the freedom that Faust wanted in the first place. Shoulda stayed in the fight.
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What habbend to Galaxy Girls?
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>>25539020
^:) If you say so
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>>25538989
I bet they asked if she would work on the love action MLP Pascal wanted
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>>25539025
Exactly. Meghan remained loyal, and she was rewarded.
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>>25539001
I don't have any real way to back up my claim in this anonymous forum anyway, that's why it was spoilered and marked as irrelevant back in my first post.

You're however trying to defend some points that are made without any backing up, so it's up to *you* to somehow prove them right. Otherwise it's all bullshit!
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>>25539046

>turning into the official hasbro bitch
>reward

Hasdrone pls
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>>25539054
>you have to prove it after I made a bogus claim

Yeah, sure, anon. Keep thinking that. I already stated I can't break an agreement. So what's your game?
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I feel bad for Faust, but I mean, leaving two big projects in a row is bad news bears for any creator.
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>>25538332
... fuck, I was really looking forward to this
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>>25538395
Fine, but too many "creative differences" and she'll just be seen as hard to work with and she honestly might have just barely enough of a resume to justify it.
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>>25539071
Why don't you go fund your Mom's next failed project?
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>>25539025
>freedom

I wish you Hasbro shills would fuck off
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>>25539072
Since you have difficulties in reading, I'll repeat: I don't need my points to be proven, cause I haven't made any :^)
You did, so where's your proof? Why should we care about anything you say if there's none?
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What's McCracken been up to these days? Just WoY?
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>>25539106
Is that still running? I thought it wasn't renewed for another season.
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>all those critic to mom

Hasdrones: the thread
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>>25539126
Explain the terrible storytelling with TFH!
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>>25539137
They just wave any criticism away with a "b-but mom never had to work without a TEAM before!!"
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So, she drops another project. Alright then, how long until she can't get a job in this business now? I'm going to laugh if this takes off like MLP did and she gets left in the dust once more from something that turns out great. Probably be she stopped fondling it.
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>>25539137
she never had to work without a team before
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http://www.equestriadaily.com/2015/11/lauren-faust-no-longer-working-on-medusa.html

>RIP Sony Pictures. 1989-2015 . treated women executives like shit, tried to micromanage Medusa and thought a film about assassinating Kim Jong-Un would be funny and not inflammatory at all.

My sides
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>>25539137
Is there some TFH storytelling revealed? I think I missed it.
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>>25539150
>>25539156

Sides status: Gone
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>>25539161
You don't want to. Just be pure, anon.
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>>25539126
>loving means kissing ass 24/7
I stand by what I said, it's fine to have vision, but you are just going to have to compromise more often than not or nobody is going to want to work with you. You can't fund your dreams if you get no work.
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>>25539156
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>>25538332
What a shame!
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>>25539174
no, loving means licking ass 24/7
IWTLRDA24/7
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>>25539161

pom(not fluttershy) have sheep puns and Tianhuo(not dash) have farts jokes in their lore.

Lauren just don't care anymore after the project get the money
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>>25539150
>>25539156
This looks a little too planned.
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>>25539205
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>>25539201
>sheep puns are a bad thing
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I laughed my ass off when I heard this.

> creative differences

Why do I feel like people had enough of her feminist shit and maybe told her to tone it down. She through a tantrum about misogyny, then stormed out.
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>>25539251
naming every simple place baaaaah is bad and lazy tho
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>>25539251
>town is Baaaa

Not even creative.
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>>25539156
She could have taken feedback from the devs.
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>>25539262

She create this episode, literally a kick in the boobs for all those fake feminist. she would never try to being like those SJW
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>>25539265
>>25539266
Confirmed for having no experience with sheep. Her take on their "culture" is probably the funniest thing she could have done with them.
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>>25539251
Having a race of characters who are too retarded to really survive is a bad idea.
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>>25539291
>lol they are stupid
>lol towns are called baaaaah
such great and well thought culture
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>>25539291
It's not even funny, though. Also, what does having experience with sheep have anything to do with making a fictional world that has some that talk? She could have at least tried and had them in the Baaahamas or something. She seriously just stopped trying.
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>>25539156
She has a team on the project.
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>>25539265
>>25539266
>sheeps cant be that stupid
sheeps really stupid animals

>>25539298
most of herd animals are retarded, they only survive using "mass force"
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It's just baaaaaaad.
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>>25539338
Why would I want to care about a group of characters that are practically as intelligent as they are in our world?
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Before the money

>Arizona 9.5/10 tier lore
>smug deer 9/10 tier lore
>10/10 Oleander

After the money(project get funded)

>it's okay paprika lore
>Sheep puns Pom lore
>Fart joke Tianhuo lore

She don't care anymore
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>>25539338
>sheeps really stupid animals

So are humans, judging from your grammar, but that's no excuse to not try.
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>>25539368
>grammar
Don't do that here.
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>>25539377
grammar
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>>25539377
That's it? That's your retort?
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>>25539397
I'm not the person you were arguing with.
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>>25539322
>It's not even funny
>my lame pun would be funnier
Kill yourself. You are exactly the kind of guy she was taking orders from at Hasbro.
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>>25539338
Nice grammar and syntax.
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>>25539397
no
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>>25538863
Woe becomes her. Truly she has it worse than anyone else on the planet.
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>>25538411
What is Gravity Falls?
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>all those tfh haters

Reminder that hasdrones make this to create drama and ruin TFH
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>>25539365
Paprika's lore was great, I just don't know what the fuck happened after that.
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>>25539412
It is funnier though.
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>>25539450
It is doing a fine job of doing that itself.
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>>25539365

>paprika
>it's okay
>not great

And move paprika to "Before the money", that lore happen when we tried to get the goat and the goat lore
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>>25539450
?
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>>25539412
At least I put more thought into it than she did. Who honestly thinks the game will take off anyway? The community will be as barren as she is soon enough.
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>>25539289
That was part hyperbole, realize.

However I don't see what else could have happened. She doesn't seem to have any other big problems. So what's the deal?

It also looks bad when she keeps walking like this. People on here can "muh integrity" all they want, but if you don't stick around and finish some projects to put on your resume, that shit will follow you. Business is business. Most people stick it out and fight for their vision, usually they can get most of what they want. And for what they don't get, they can come out later comment on being held back. But at least they did something.

Faust has done nothing of note herself except for MLP. Credit where it's due, that show was a runaway success. However she didn't mold it as it kept going. She left. All other things she worked on were thanks to her husband. They were his projects. This was not a smart move.
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>>25539352
You didn't read that lore, did you?
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>>25539520
The sheep were retards, I didn't get why that was a good idea at all.
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>>25539289
didn't she regretted about that episode or something?
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>>25539502
You did put more work into it m8.
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>>25539536
*didn't she regret
fuck
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>>25539536
Yeah people complained and bitched, then she apologized.

She's weak in the knees. Can't stand by her vision when she makes it, and if she can't make it, she walks.
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>>25539489
>>25539494


look the real post in the archive, that post is edited to create shitstorm when Tiarawhy create that TFH porn animation
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>yfw she announces she will work on the 2017 MLP movie
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>>25539508

>Faust has done nothing of note herself except for MLP.

>All other things she worked on were thanks to her husband.

She did SBFF --- they were only shorts, but people seemed to like them.
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>>25539551
People are complaining about TFHs lore. Why is not she fixing that too?
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>>25539564
>mfw she won't be involved
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>>25538332
I was at CTN this weekend. She said publicly that the new leadership at Sony did not like the project
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>>25538332
God she's such a hacky cunt. I hope she dies so we stop talking about her. Everybody does everything better than her
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What is the possibility that this could even happen to the TFH project?
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>>25539585

> TFHs lore
> in any way important
> implying she even fix it when writing is her biggest weakness

>>25539578
Yes, but they weren't anything worth mentioning, and they didn't do much of them. However, I won't blame her for that one. Cartoon Network didn't handle the DC stuff well at all.
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>>25539536
She regretted it only because she got so much shit from feminists for it
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>>25539620
Holy shit that would destroy her career.
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>>25539620
High
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I can already see how her childhood was.

>group activity
>everybody tries to collaborate
>she tries to take full control
>ends up storming off and pouting because nobody wants to make it all about her
>she excludes herself from the group
>group gets most compliments and a reward at the end of it all
>she has already faked sick to avoid them
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>>25539629
She can take feedback, she can get a damn editor.
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>>25539629
They could have brought on a writer.
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>>25539201
>sheep puns
Just like horse puns in S1 of pony?

Nothing wrong with that. It's a bit cheesy, but that's all right.
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>>25539678
Thing is, the pony stuff is creative. No town is just Neigh or Whinny. They're play on actual names. With TFH it's just Baaah. That's it.
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>>25539678
They weren't even sheep puns.
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>>25539676
They could have done it themselves, probably would be better than her writing anyway. This isn't a goddamn cartoon. Just whip up some flavor lore and call it day. Jesus Christ.
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>>25539251
Sheep puns are great, I agree with ewe.
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>>25539585

Because she actually don't care about the project. I bet that she think that the project will fail and she would be free like a hero that try to help and now she is trapped with TFH team.
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>>25538395
>either be michael bay or be nothing
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>>25538596

Die in a fucking fire you goddamn piece of shit. The show sucked ass since Meghan took over.

It could be good if they unleashed Larson, but it will never fucking happen.
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>>25539717
Someone suggested the idea of the characters being cereal mascots.
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>>25538596

Hi meghan
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>>25539771

We had Larson this season and he was still shit.
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>>25539448

Note how Disney hasn't said anything about whether or not they'll let Hirsch cancel it.
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>>25538332
All this cunt does is piss and moan when it doesn't go her way she leaves
>We discussed this before
But seriously she can go fuck herself
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>>25539158

>Glad to see her great storytelling of fart jokes and a race of retards will be explored in TFH. Faust is SO great without any creative restraints.
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>>25539844
Literally no one can defend her temper tantrums
>I will be surprised if someone did though
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>>25539809

Really, faglord? Because he was in what, like, 4 episodes?

And Meghan made the show appealing to your dumb asses. I remember it still back on /co/. So, don't fucking talk to me - unless you were with the show form the beginning, you are PART OF THE PROBLEM.
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>>25539868
No your wrong because your opinion is stupid
>kill yourself
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>>25539886
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>>25539868
The show got objectively better after Season 1. Tough pill to swallow, but it's the truth.

You oldfags are fucking pathetic. I'll readily admit the show has had dips in quality, and there have been undeniably shitting happenings. I'll also admit that Meghan has a lot to do with it. But this idea that S1 was it a category of it's own for being that good is garbage, and demonstrably false.
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>>25539894
Damn, I feel enlightend
>Thank
^:)
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>>25539868

He was story editor for 12 episodes and all were badly made.

Do you bother reading before talking? You'd cut out a lot of second hand embarrasment if you did simply that.
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>>25538332
>muh creative freedom
Ran away from ponies and now this. Hope she never gets work again.
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Wait, why do people still idolize her?
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>>25540012
because people are retarded faggots.
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>>25538750
>feedback from corporate management
>actually heeding the opinion of plutocrat inbreds who inherit their position through heritage
Did you fuckers forget the part where Medusa was under the purview of Sony Motion Chucklefucks?

Like, you know. The same illiterate retards that exchanged emails like this?
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>>25540142
That bitch got fired, though. One person doesn't make up the entire company.
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She's getting a reputation now....
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Meanwhile in /co/
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>>25538545

Great more fart jokes and bad puns.
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>>25540151
>Pascal's contract with Sony was scheduled to expire in March 2015.[5]
>On February 5, 2015, Pascal announced she would step down in May 2015[27][28][29][30] and start her own production company,
>with a four-year contract for funding and distribution via Sony Pictures Entertainment.[28][29][31]

>FOUR YEAR CONTRACT FOR FUNDING AND DISTRIBUTION
>VIA SONY
>JUST FOR HER TOY PROJECTS

LOL yeah she got "fired" alright.

If you actually think executives are ever held accountable for their fuckups or are actually capable of decisions that aren't fuckups, I have a bridge to sell you.
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>>25538395

i dunno, but they wont give you coffee for it at starbucks.
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Poor Craig
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Too bad. I was actually going to go to a theater to see this just to support her even though I'm not her biggest fan.

I'm starting to think she's a one hit wonder. FIM was the perfect storm, she'll never come close to replicating it.
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>>25538545
Speaking of TFH, someone earlier in the thread wanted to know what a project would be like if she had complete creative control.

Considering she's completely designed the characters herself and the lore surrounding TFH, I think we can point to that as an example.

If Medusa is still released I'm betting we can find the exact point where Lauren threw her hands up and resigned.
I'm betting they wanted Medusa to have a love interest.
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>>25540182
I don't really look too far into that shit anyway. Last I heard was she got fired or whatever. Good news is she isn't touching the movie. That's all that matters to me.
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>gets along with fans
>gets along with animators
>gets along with management
>healthy womb that has birthed two children
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>>25540227
>healthy womb that has birthed two children

I like you.
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Should she crawl back and beg for her job back? I'm sure Meghan will give her one or two episodes to write as a freelance writer.

She'll be right below G.M Berrow in the pecking order.
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>>25540142
>Who is shining armour? Is all this gonna make sense to anyone
>Is all this

Jesus fucking Christ I've read more coherent English from a fob Mexican busing tables.

Maybe it's no wonder she's had "creative differences." These faggots sound like they have zero reading comprehension.
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>>25540244
I doubt Hasbro would want her back. She'll just quit again the second that say one thing needs changing.

>muh freedom!
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"It is bizarre, but on the board that must not be named, everyone is bashing Faust. Here, on the other hand, are more people bashing Sony. Has Sony really killed more animated projects than this due to being retarded? I'm out of the loop."

- /co/

I miss that place
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>>25540248
>Who is Medusa?
>Is all this gonna make sense to anyone
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It could be worse, she could've been filmed urinating by a brony.
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>>25538332
it's never too late to give up on your dreams
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>>25540319
That might put her in a more positive light, actually
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>>25540248
To my knowledge between this unprofessionalism and the Sony leak that lead to us getting these emails, they dropped Sony as distributor and went with Lionsgate.

Considering they were mostly using Sony for advertising and distribution, I think Sony is completely out of the picture of the 2017 movie. Thank God.

That Amy Pascal lady seems like the most unprofessional twat. Most of her emails end with "Sent from my iPhone".
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JUST
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Imagine if Lauren had stayed with MLP.

>showrun for 6+ seasons
>write and direct MLP movie
>eventually get promoted as head of storytelling for Hasbro

If she had just been a bit more patient and suppressed her ego and "principals" this could've been hers.
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>>25540343
I should add, if she doesn't quit part way into that, too.
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>>25538332
I realize where I am, but serious question: I wonder if they still would have fired the director even if she fully complied with everything Sony asked for. When this was announced, this was exactly the sort of thing many people feared happening. Sony tends to replace directors frequently on their films, this is known. Was Lauren uncooperative, or does Sony even know what it wants?
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>>25540377
>fired

Good one.
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>>25538462
This is a job. You need one to live comfortably in modern society. If all artists just quit then they wouldn't get money. It's not difficult to do understand.
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>>25540244
>Lauren
>Writing scripts
She might honestly be better as a replacement for Sibsy as storyboard artist.
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>>25538384
Could she quit herself?
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>>25538545
It is so terrible though.
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>>25540194
Dat file name
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>>25540413
>Lauren storyboarding how episodes look scene to scene
>Makes sure there aren't any human poses in the pony cartoon

That actually makes perfect sense.
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>>25540431
no
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>>25540293

Then why don't you keep posting there? This isn't pony news, it can go there.
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>>25540362

It's impossible to imagine that. There is just not a world where Lauren is okay with meddling. She's too fiery.
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well well well what do we have here

yet another example of faust quitting something because things don't go exactly here way

Q fucking Q

why is she such a whiny bitch? need i remind you all that she wrote 2 ( T W O ) episodes in MLPFIM. The 2 episodes in question are regarded as some of the weakest episodes in the series (certainly in seasons 1 and 2, which she was a part of)

Why doesn't faust just start her own studio? there's nothing stoping her. All she needs is a kikestarter and she's set for life. Everyone knows about her. Everyone knows she's good at what she designs. So what's stopping her from getting a team and making cartoons? even /literally who/'s like silly filly studios is a group and makes cartoons.

Someone please answer. I'm sure she's been asked before. Why doesn't she have her own studio?
>inb4 2hard ;~;
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The thing that always worried me about this project was that in Medusa's original backstory, she got raped in the temple of Poseidon and Poseidon cursed her to become a Gorgon. What would Sony and Lauren have to do to make this family friendly? I could easily see her quitting over this issue if Sony advocated a stupid approach to this.
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>>25540194
She's big
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>>25539904
Well, although personally season 4 was my favorite, I do think that season 1 had the least "bad" episodes in it, like some in 2,4 and 5 are just absolute garbage
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>>25540547
>you see, she got bit by a snake and just like in Spiderman--
>what do you mean "it's stupid," miss Faust?
>...well, i'm an executive and i know what i'm talking about. why can't you just be a team player, Lauren?
>i *know* it'll succeed because Spiderman is a successful franchise. don't you know anything about marketing?
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>>25540534
Maybe she underestimates how much money she could milk out of her fans.
It's less money than it was a year or two ago, but she could still probably kickstart any project she wants.
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>>25540194
Not that I didn't already know this, but Tara is fucking bangin'
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>>25540590
Most of the VA's clean up really well
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>>25540547
It was actually Athena that cursed her. Maidens of Athena were supposed to be virgins, so after Poseidon rapes her Athena gets angry.
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epin fausthate circlejerk
Are you kids off for thanksgiving break already?
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>>25540547
I suppose some accident happens in the temple and Athena punishes her.
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>>25540610
TFHs lore sucks.
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She could have had the town the sheep in TFH live in be called, "Baaabylon".
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>>25540142
Anyone got leaked emails regarding Medusa?
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>>25540600
Yup, the three blondes and Tabitha

Sorry Tabitha, I love you in every other way!
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>>25540659

>Blondes

Tara, Andrea, and Cathy?
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>>25540610

This coming from a toddler that got mad people on the internet didn't agree with him.
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>>25538411
It's almost as though we've reached the end of the creator-driven era in TV (and movie, but at least we have TFH, so not necessarily video game) animation.
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>>25540600
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>>25540681
Oh, is that the third blonde?
I was thinking of Ashleigh Ball.
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>>25540690

Cathy is also blonde.
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>>25540679
She defended that guy when someone tried to get her to be snotty about it. I wonder if she gave him this exclusive.
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>>25539026
Better question: what would it cost to independently fund Galaxy Girls?
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>>25540552
for tara
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>>25538332
The guy who replaced Amy Pascal at sony pictures doesn't want animated movies with female protagonists. I shit you not. It's almost common knowledge in the industry.
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>>25540690
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>>25540694
I see her too much like a mom. And not in the sexual way.

Nicole, on the other hand...
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>>25538332
Lauren pls
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>>25540696
She defended him? Sauce?
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If Lauren is so concerned with creative integrity, she needs to completely quit the industry. Cause it ain't happening.
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>>25540720
It was verbal. Her point was basically that he didn't know mlp was functioning as a creator-driven show in its development, but he was proven correct by later events.
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>>25540715
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>>25540709
He probably thinks it's a "passing fad" or "boys won't watch it".
What a colossal faggot.

Most Disney princesses can hold their own. Frozen exploded and exploded again.

All you need to do to make "boys watch it" is include a "funny" male sidekick and give them equal screen time in the trailer. If there's enough fantasy shit or animated action kids will watch it.
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That's a shame for her. I mean I'm disappointed that she left so early.
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>>25540723
Better yet, make her own independent show with her own team of interns, then post the episodes on youtube while kickstarting the later ones. Those usually work. Look at Little Witch Academia. /a/ laps it up and the end result of the episodes is damn fine
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>>25540709
We should send him pictures of ponut until he submits to reason.
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>>25540744
I dont know why, but I find relating a VA with a character quite creepy.
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>>25540709
>>25540746
And Amy Pascal is making a fucking documentary about GG. One extreme to another.
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>>25540783
>GG
Dammit. I thought we were passed that.

Eh, then again with all the changes and censorship going on from what I've seen in /v/'s catalogs, it's not going to end early.
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>>25540804
We still have to write the story of how grill power rose up to crush the vile army of outcast teenage boys.
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>>25538863

I wonder what it's like now that FIM is basically Hasbro's golden cow.

I mean shit Luna is much darker now with what they did in S5 than she ever was under Faust. So clearly they've loosened up.
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>>25540826
It's eternally amusing to me how these activists constantly think they're fighting some stereotypical frat boys when they're fighting a bunch of nerdy teenage boys who care so much because they were outcasts their entire lives and had a lot of things taken away from them and opportunities denied.
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>>25538442
What's the story here?
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>>25538442
>>25540874
Apparently the reason why the first three Starwars films were good was because Lucas actually worked with his people and his wife rather than be the ideas guy and the director all on his own. Then when it came to the prequels, he made a lot of bad decisions, one of which is Jarjar.
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>>25540783
>>25540804
Huh. I had no idea she had anything to do with that.

>After Pascal left Sony, she was interviewed about Sony Entertainment's gender pay gap that had been exposed by the leaks. Tina Brown asked Pascal to explain why actresses did not realize they were being paid less than male actors. Pascal said, "People want to work for less money. I'll pay them less money. I don't call them up and go, 'Can I give you some more?' ... what women have to do is not work for less money.... People should know what they're worth and say no."
SO, as most experts expect: when it comes to significant wage gaps in the same field it's all about negotiation. Men will negotiate for higher wages and women will take the first offer.
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>>25540915
For the first *two* movies, Lucas had Gary Kurtz to rein him in:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Kurtz

>Kurtz has claimed that he and George Lucas clashed over how to progress the Star Wars series. Kurtz recalled that after Raiders of the Lost Ark in 1981, Lucas became convinced that audiences no longer cared about the story and were simply there for thrills and entertainment, and began to deviate from the originally planned plotlines for Return of the Jedi, at which point Kurtz quit the series. Kurtz has also claimed that Lucas changed the emphasis from storytelling to prioritizing toy merchandising.
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>>25540941

If you read the original scripts for Return Lucas for the most part made the right choices there, there's LOADS of incredibly goofy shit in the first few drafts of that movie that make the goofiest stuff in the prequels look tame.

For example

Palpatines LETHAL LAVA EVIL LAIR.

Obi Wan and Yoda LITERALLY COMING BACK FROM THE DEAD.

not just one but TWO Death Stars orbiting Coruscant (which is pretty much the one thing from the early drafts I wish they had kept, but tech at the time made realizing Lucas's vision for it too difficult)
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>>25540941
Lucas almost sounds like a Hasbro CEO.
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>>25540978
Lucas seemed to always have a bunch of goofy ideas floating around.

Faust seems a bit more interested in preserving her storytelling and world, I think. Sort of like the opposite of Lucas, who seems intent on changing his story over and over again to make it bigger and more goofy.
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>>25540941

>Lucas changed the emphasis from storytelling to prioritizing toy merchandising

[Hand rubbing intensifies]
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>>25541180
The Starwars threads around the site are getting crazier, surpassing bane-posting tier shit. There's even that one webm where a sculptor for the movie shows Lucas a headsculpt of one of the characters and then lucas proceeds to put scratch marks on it without the guy's consent and you can see the despair and anger in the artist's eyes.
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>>25538332
Read these fucking comments on Equestria Daily. Even they agree Faust is being retarded.
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>>25541289
No one will ever get to know what really happened behind the scenes. Changes in leadership at sony Pictures ended the project. Lauren just isn't throwing them under them bus. Maybe she should.
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>>25538596
mehgan IS the problem
she is the one who wanted twilight to be a princess
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>>25541400
anon pls
sauce
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>>25541289
That should concern you
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>>25540171
>People believe that.
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>>77694822
Holy shit she actually seemed excited about this as well
Seemed like her first big break since MLP, she probably poured herself into this.

Dammit man, guess there goes any interest I really had in the film too. Shit like this is shitty to read
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>>25538613
LOLOLOL that's considered great animation by today's standards.

People are completely fucking desensitzed to the slow degradation of animation quality over the last several decades.

Compare that craptastic shit to fucking old Disney animation cells and be fucking amazed, STAGGERED at the difference.

This guy should not even get a passing grade in high school art class for that shit.
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>>25538395

>doesn't know that restrictions on creativity spur creativity
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>>25538613
You all know Genndy quit Sony too right?
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>>25541751
So he sucked it up and salvaged two Adam Sandler movies for them and they repaid him with nothing?

Classy move, Sony.
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>>25538395

The Pope literally threatened to KILL Michaelangelo if he didn't finish the Sistine Chapel ceiling on time. It is now regarded as one of the greatest works of art ever created by human beings.

>muh creative integrity
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>>25540604
>get raped
>get in trouble
>get punished

yfw Athena was a filthy mudslime and Medusa got Allahu Ackbared
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>>25541819
He also almost went blind from having paint fall into his eyes and it's known he was completely miserable and hated doing it.

But the church got what they wanted! That's all that matters. Fuck artists, their vision and their health.
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>>25541882

Damn right.
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>>25541882
correct
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>>25541882
Literally correct.
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>>25538395
even Shakespeare did things for the money. theres a difference between integrity and vainglory. she's turning into the Katherine Heigl of cartoons
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"I don't work on Medusa anymore, pls direct your questions to the current staff of the movie"
>>
I don't understand why Lauren doesn't just crowdsource and do whatever she wants. It worked great with Them Fightin' Herds.
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>>25540856
>So clearly they've loosened up.

Higher-ups loosen up when they see that the employee is able to deliver.

That's usually the nature of these things: do well with the things one was paid to do, and, little by little, the worker tends to get more perks, including greater autonomy.
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>>25542105
Yeah. Totally. I'd love to read more of that 'lore' she can hack up.
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>>25538863
>asbro hating everything she did with Luna saying "this isnt funny, no kid will find this loud character funny" and also complaints she was too dark
Wait, was her new design her doing? Or just the personality?
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>>25542105
This.

Bronies are so fucking free with their money and so full of S1 nostalgia they would fund her next trip to the fucking bathroom.
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>>25540547
Well, you don't have to imply rape to show some Greek mythology. Like Hercules was made into Zeus and Hera's son in the Disney movie, and I was completely ok with that while knowing the actual myth.
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>>25542105

Do you have any idea how much professional animation costs? One episode of the show probably costs more than all of TFH has earned so far.
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>>25542270

Yes of course she can't make full blown TV episodes or movies. But look at JanAnimations what's he produced with miniscule resources or Hotdiggetydemon.

She could do a series of 15 shorts or whatever, post them on Youtube, make revenue off that and get funding through fans. Obviously its not the same as doing a full tv show but the whole point is she's demonstrated she doesn't want to play ball with big studios.
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>>25542297

Professional studios don't look kindly on making "fan animations". Doing so would all but guarantee she won't work in the industry proper anymore which is suicide.
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>>25542310
"Fan animations" is an incorrect term here, as Lauren can produce original content.
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>>25542323

Not exactly accurate but sidestepping the usual producers and distribution channels and releasing on a free service like Youtube is not going to engender you to the industry proper.
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>>25538332

FYI Sony Pictures were the guys who suggested Hasbro to ditch the MLP:FiM movie concept and instead turn it into something like The Smurfs. They also completely fucked up that Jem and the Holograms movie, because they were afraid it wouldn't appeal to anyone beyond fans of the original series. The resulting product was an abomination.

https://wikileaks.org/sony/emails/emailid/43621

http://dlisted.com/2015/11/10/the-jem-and-the-holograms-movie-was-pulled-from-theaters-after-only-2-weeks/


It's hard to say what the context is behind Lauren quitting Medusa, but judging on leaked Sony e-mails, I wouldn't be surprised if heavy executive meddling was to blame.
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>>25542368
ooh, I remember those.
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>>25542368
Gee thanks.
>>25540142
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>>25541882

He was hardly the only one. Tchaikovsky hated the 1812 Overture and only composed it for the money. Art from adversity is certainly a thing that exists, but ultimately I think it has to fall to individual artists to decide how resolute they are in the face of people telling them what they can and can't do creatively. Faust is more of a hard-liner on that and I can respect that. If it causes her never to work again? Well, we all gotta lie in the beds we make.
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>>25542368
>this person was president of production at a major corporation
>types like a drunken freshman
Jesus Christ
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>Totes a rhetoric that the industry is sexist, and it's so hard for a woman to get a job in this industry

>walks out on a huge project with Sony


I love that amazon, but holy shit Lauren you bustin' my balls here.
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>>25542368
Am I the only one who wanted Sony to make a Smurfs with ponies just to watch the fandom crash and burn?
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>>25542494

If you think that's bad, you really need to read Amy Pascal's emails.

I've seen young children write more coherently than her, and this is supposed to be a professional setting. I shudder to think what her private texts look like.
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>>25542508
you are the cancer
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>>25542368
If the guy who wrote that is gonna be in charge of the movie, I don't even have to say it's gonna be shit.
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>>25542723

Sony isn't involved with the MLP movie.
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>>25542465

Unless Medusa's old news that has only been revealed recently, Faust was already working with a project where she could pursue her own ideas without meddling. And you guys should know what I'm talking about.

Not only does having that kind of opportunity help you trudge through the other projects you hate, but is something that is a MASSIVE privilege few creators can get.
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>>25542748

I tiny little indie game that will amount to nothing in the grand scheme of things. Being a top billed director on a Sony movie means something.
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Any of you seen this thread?

>>>/co/77694822

It's exactly the opposite of this one. How has /mlp/ turned so completely on Lauren Faust that they're giving fucking Sony Pictures the benefit of the doubt?
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>>25542775
Mom abandoned us and now she abandoned another project. We empathize with that pain.
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>>25542775

Because this is a repeat of what happened with Hasbro.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again.
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>>25542775
>>25542785
You can't link to /co/ from /mlp/.
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>>25542775
It's one thing to leave because things weren't going well. It's another to do it again, in the exact same manner. At that point, eyebrows begin to raise.
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>>25542803
>>25542788
>>25542787
yeah and then you remember we're talking about sony pictures animation.
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>>25542816

So? She's still done the same thing twice now. You start to think "Yeah, maybe it is her" is all.
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>>25542816
Yeah, and then you remember she did this before. It's hard to gain sympathy when you do this more than once.
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>>25542829
Actually, isn't this the third time? Didn't she do the same Wander Over Yonder?
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>>25542836

To a lesser degree.
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>>25542836
No, in exactly no way did anything like that happen.

What?
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It's surprising that fucking /co/ is defending Lauren while /mlp/ is shitting all over her. Either I'm in alternative reality or neo-/mlp/ is real.
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>>25542850

/co/ has been tumblr 2.0 for a long time. They are full feminist/sjw/liberal pandering. Of course they will defend her.
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>>25538521
Surely Hasbro is not going to hire he any time soon.

I lost some respect for her. It really look like Hasbro wasn't that much of an asshole seeing how Meghan is doing all the stories she wanted to do and even got promoted so now she have even less restrictions when it comes to storyline. Now she can write fights, orphans and romances.
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>>25542755

When it comes to a personal level, it should still mean a lot. Still, most artists fail to realize this.

Take Brony musicians, for example. Their popularity exploded early in the fandom with hundred thousands or even millions of YouTube views for their songs. But as soon as they decided to expand their horizons and stop slapping "pony" on the song titles, their views dropped hard. And some of them bitched about it. But honestly, why should that matter? The 10% of fans who still enjoy their work far outweigh the 90% who never really respected their work anyways and just quit. Plus, that's a huge jump start to their career to even have an audience, as opposed to starting from scratch.
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>>25542861
>When it comes to a personal level, it should still mean a lot. Still, most artists fail to realize this.

Then she should be happy and creative there and be a professional and earn industry cred at Sony. But she had to have it her way all the time everywhere.
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>>25542803
>It's one thing to leave because things weren't going well. It's another to do it again
No that is not another thing. That is literally the exact same thing.
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>>25542864
>can't into meanings

Leave.
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>>25542856
You are kidding yourself if you truly believe that. Else SU wouldn't be on /trash/
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>>25542850
Actually, there are some people over there bashing her. Not as many, but they're there.
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>>25540534
>need i remind you all that she wrote 2 ( T W O ) episodes in MLPFIM.
Come to think of it, every episode that has to cycle through all of the Mane 6 while they demonstrate their Elements has been pretty bad. (The fact that Rainbow Rocks didn't have to do this is what makes it better than the other two EqG movies.)
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>>25542863
>earn industry cred at Sony.
Yeah like Genndy. Wait no he's been hemorrhaging "cred" from his work at sony.
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>>25542870

SU caused to much disagreement, and mods only allow threads where people agree on everything. So it had to go.
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>>25542871
Well, and there are people defending her in here as well, but I'm saying the majority of the threads compared to each other.
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>>25542876

Genndy flew to close to the sun. Should have stuck to cartoons on TV.
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>>25538703
Problem with her is that she is too emotional

Let's say she was Hasbro
s favourite with a lot of power over the show and she could do anything with her episodes.


SHE WOULD STILL QUIT because one of the Hasbro executives shredded a letter from a little girls. This is her mentaility. She is not fit to run with the modern entertainment industry.

She should be working with Rebecca Sugar on SU or with Toby Fox on Undertale. Or any other independent shows and games. Somewhere where she would get creative freeedom. She hates corporations and people running it.
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>>25542830
You can rag on her for leaving MLP because Hasbro *did* loosen up a little bit after a while.

Sony on the other hand is literally impossible to work with. See >>25542368 and >>25540709
. We can't exactly fault Lauren for leaving a company that's know to be a shithole in all levels.

>Sony [Motion Pictures]
>Sony [Online Entertainment]
>Sony [Professional Solutions]
>Sony [anything]

All proven to be either greedier than Jews or less competent than Hasbro's worst attempts. That entire conglomerate is a giant rotting pile of shit.
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>>25542892

Literally impossible? So they've never released a single movie ever?
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>>25542902
Are you being intentionally dense? They either subjugate the creatives or have the various levels of management make the creative decisions.

Actually, how about this. Give me ONE non-shit movie title Sony has released in recent memory under Pascal or her replacement. Just one.
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>>25542850

People are so neckdeep in their own brony drama that they've painted some kind of villain character out of Faust for leaving the series when she was denied creative freedom.

The reality is that Lauren is a talented artist who just doesn't like to put up with meddling executives, and I can respect that.

>>25542891
>Problem with her is that she is too emotional

Problem is people like you who keep making shit up and pretend it's the truth.
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>>25542863

That's what I mean. Her role for TFH is practically part-time work, so it wouldn't have interfered with her main job. And even if it still isn't the project she hoped for (e.g. Galaxy Girls), she still has her DeviantArt. Again, even if the audience for a bunch of random doodles drawn during lunch is absolutely minuscule, it is still there and it would be vastly larger than those of other lesser known artists doing the same thing.
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>>25542892
>SOE
>ruiners of Everquest AND Planetside
You're triggering me, anon.
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>>25542892
Doesn't change the fact it's the exact thing she left for. Not saying the company wasn't dickish to her, but I'm not turning a blind eye on her either.
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>>25542921
No, we have problems with her because she seems to be a person who thinks she is all great and important, the best person around, and is not willing to compromise with companies. This is the third or so time she's done this. Of course we have reason to think it's her that's the problem.
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>>25542918

I like to use the actual definition of words. If you didn't mean literally then don't say it.
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>>25542921

Then she can enjoy her creative freedom to make the absolute nothing that she is making now. Be creative all you want, just don't expect these companies to subsidize your every whim.
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>>25541289
I wonder if the EQD staff ever looks at their comment section and wonders "What the fuck did we create?"
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>>25542971
>"literally impossible to work with"
>the only way to get your movie funded is to completely surrender your creative vision
>hurr durr actual definition
You're lacking severely on the reading comprehension there family
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>>25542951
Then you need to get over yourself. You don't have to work with her so it's none of your fucking business.
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>>25542983

Not completely, just compromise. It's pretty clear since she's now run into the same situation twice that it's her who is unwilling to meet halfway on anything.
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>>25542921
stay delusonal faustfag
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Man, I bet she thought Sony would be so much better than Hasbro. She openly praised Sony in the past for allowing creative freedom. Guess that was a lie.

Sony is shit, but honestly I don't think it matters if Faust's reputation is lessened by this. She simply just cannot work with corporations regardless of how good or bad they are. She would probably even hate working with this "new" Hasbro that came after she left. Faust should crowdfund something all of her own because it literally is impossible to have her extreme dedication to principles AND a prominent industry career.

Even the most "creator friendly" environment wouldn't be enough for her. The only environment she can really perform in is where she has a boss of exactly one person, or at best a few people who she deems worthy. I would be surprised if she signed on to something new anytime soon.
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>>25542996
>you just need to compromise with Sony
>Lauren is just unwilling to meet "halfway"
did you choose not to read the past ~50 posts or something?
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>>25542979
I think most EQD staff admitted in the past their comment section is cancer.
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>>25542368

Ah, that an act of war by the North Korean government inadvertently supplied us with details about the upcoming My Little Pony movie never ceases to make me smile.
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>>25542921

Just because /mlp/ hipsters find irony in dissing Faust, doesn't mean that we can't say that she still made a bad decision. I still respect her and love her ideas to a worship-the-ground-she-stands-on level of autism, but the fact she keeps repeats the same words, "creative differences" for leaving is pretty disappointing.

Sony might have been a gigantic elephant shit to work with, but she took the risk by leaving Hasbro. It doesn't work doing that a second time.
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>>25542996
Faust prematurely left MLP, we all can agree on that. That first blunder was her own doing.

But It's really hard to fault her for parting ways with $CORPORATION when we're talking about Sony Motion Pictures. She may or may not have been willing to meet half-way this time around, but all signs point to SMP being a historically unwilling party when it comes to compromising with creative types.
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>>25543030

It's not hard to fault her when the studio has that reputation. If she thought that SMP would be easier to work with then Hasbro then the best thing I can say about her is she is naive and stupid.
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>>25538332
>>25538366

I guarantee you all the fraustfags will be shilling in this thread trying to protect their precious "mama fraust"
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>>25542995
Uhhh, no shit I'm not working with her. I'm stating my opinion on this whole subject and view on Lauren Faust as a person working with companies. She clearly can't. Her tragic decisions to leave projects halfway because of "creative differences" definitely should raise eyebrows. It's called having an opinion. Your comment is not gonna stop me from commenting. Good day to you, Faustfag.
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>>25538671

>not supporting Trump

this is why america is going down the shithole
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>>25543030
She did the equivalent of shooting herself in the head to move on from her shot in the foot. She literally could not have gone to a worse place if she wanted creative freedom. Sony is where respected animators that burned bridges go to wallow. Both her and Tartakovsky dropped out because Sony is shit, yes. But Sony is also the bottom of the barrel. There's nowhere else to go.

The fact is that Faust simply will not be able to make something with a big studio unless she changes her way of thinking and picks her battles better. I really hope she crowdfunds because even the most creatively liberal studio would be too restricting for her.
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>>25543045
Some already have. There are people on /co/ defending her too. But the majority on here is bashing and raising eyebrows towards her.
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>>25543058

>Meghan stays with the show, gets promoted to head of girl brands at Hasbro
>AKR stays, gets hired by Disney
>Faust leaves, can't even keep a job at Sony Animation

Clearly staying with Hasbro is the right move.
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>>25543073
It's fucking tragic, really. Why not crowd fund a mini series? Then she can do what she wants and hire only people she wants.
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>>25543092

Because TV quality animation is expensive as shit and not even crowdfunding will be able to fund it. A 15 minute episode of MLP would cost more than everything TFH has ever earned or put in.
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>>25543092
Because she'll quit that, too.
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>>25543044
>>25543058
She was either naive as fuck or Sony was the only distributor that was willing to fund her work.

Or maybe whoever accepted her pitch did the "oh yes your creative input will be considered seriously" salesman repetoire and misled Faust into thinking Sony was the right distributor to work with.

We won't know the details unless there's another leak (likely, since Sony is incompetent in all facets including cybersecurity) or Lauren spills the beans. I *want* to give Lauren a benefit of the doubt because she's already learned a lesson of sorts from leaving Hasbro so early in the development.
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>>25543064
At this point it's a mixed bag after anons reminded people of the leaked emails.
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>>25543107

So at best she is naive and incompetent, at worse she is a demanding unreasonable diva queen.
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>>25543073
This this and more THIS
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>>25543116
Depends on context
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>>25543128

Based on the context we've been given it's fairly accurate.
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>>25543116
Overly optimistic, maybe. I doubt she was naive anymore after dealing with Hasbro for two seasons' worth of production.

Unreasonably demanding? Maybe it's true from a management viewpoint, but I don't see any of her ex-coworkers saying anything particularly bad about her workplace demeanor.
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>>25542882
I'm fine with two threads with contrasting results as it gives out different perspectives on both positive and negative sides of the speculation.
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>>25543073
Why does Faust have to be so fucking dumb? She clearly has talent but she doesn't know where or how to use it
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>>25543139
>but I don't see any of her ex-coworkers saying anything particularly bad about her workplace demeanor.

Because if you want to keep working in the industry you don't shit talk your employer or co-workers.
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>>25543139
Probably just against the higherups than employees equal or lower than her.
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>>25543102
Cost of TFH would make like, one episode of a cartoon. Yeah.

>>25543107
I think she was naive to think they'd allow free creativity.

>>25543116
It's less that she's demanding and more that she cannot comprehend compromise with a non creative. The fact that she will walk out on a movie that presumably had a budget in the tens of millions (probably 50+ million) is proof of how strongly she believes that.

Of course it's not like she actually needs the money anyway, so she can afford to be so steadfast. Still, must be frustrating as a woman in cartooning to see her do this. Most would kill for her position.
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>>25543148
It all depends on how she sees things. After all, her own husband is pretty successful in the cartoon business whether he's on his own or coworking with Faust.
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>>25543160
>It's less that she's demanding and more that she cannot comprehend compromise with a non creative.

This is getting into some grade A level hairsplitting. Though otherwise I agree.
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I'm willing to bet Lauren is monitoring both threads as we type. Maybe she'll grace /co/ with an answer if they're lucky.
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>>25543178
I was just about to ask what would Anons would think would happen here now if Lauren were to say something.
You think she remembers her old trip?
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>>25543178
Doubt it. She quit this place like she does everything else.
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>>25543183

She admitted at Babscon that she's upset that we don't care about her anymore and feels betrayed. She isn't coming back.
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>>25543170
It's not exactly hair-splitting.

I'd agree with that anon. Every industry has one or more executives that are infuriatingly uncompromising to the point of being unreasonable.

Sticking with Windows XP for "budget reasons," not replacing inefficient machinery because it "works fine," pushing for [trope xyz] because a popular Disney movie used it, et cetera.
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The tragic truth is that any company large enough to give Faust a movie or series is also large enough to have a non creative hand in their creative work on some level. Another tragic truth is that animation is so expensive that crowd funding a series is not viable.

I don't want to watch Faust's talent wither on the vine, guys. But I fear that Faust is unable to truly work while even slightly chained, but also unable to make anything without it. Either she is miserable and makes something or makes nothing. That sucks.
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>>25543193
Fair enough. I don't think she'd have as warm a reception nowadays anyway. I wonder when the disposition shifted like that.
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>>25543195
>Sticking with Windows XP for "budget reasons

IT guy here, we stuck with XP because it FUCKING WORKED and Vista and 7 were shit by comparison. We had to fight upper management to not upgrade because it would cost the company too much. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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>>25538395
THATS IT AM FUCKING DONE.
IF SHE DOESN"T EXACTLY TELL ME WHAT THE HELL SHE MEANT BY "CREATIVE DIFFERENCES" THEN I'M DONE.

I'm making an anti-Faust brigade and hiring somebody else to be our leader and save the creator-driven era.
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>>25543203

When she realized that the show was succeeding and the fandom was growing with out her. That she was replaceable.
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>>25543205
>pushed against win7 upgrade
>"IT guy here"
uh, sure.
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>>25543184
lel. She probably clings on to /co/ in Yonder threads.
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>>25543211

For your average business there was no benefit to 7 over XP.
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>>25543210
That makes sense. She's still great at putting a world together and keeping everyone on task though from what I read.
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Lauren is a fucking trainwreck of an artist. Very talented but with 0% determination.

Either she have everything she wants or she quits.
She deserve my ugly dick in her vagina.
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>>25543210
Like an arrow to the heart, we're to blame.
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>>25543217

Putting a world together sure, keeping everyone on task was really more the job of Thiessen and Miller.
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I wonder if Faust knows literally every other creative in the industry deals with corporate, and that they all manage. I always assumed that she knew but was completely uninterested in corporate politics involved with being a creative and therefore just refused to play the game everyone else did.
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>>25543227
I thought she had a hand in every part making adjustments and requirements to keep things uniform though?
Stuff like keeping the pony anatomy in check for example.
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>>25543218
I doubt it's that simple. Sony must have pushed for ideas as bad as the Smurfs, or worse. Especially since the money involved is >>25543160
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>>25543215
Sounds like whoever did your analysis was wrong as shit. Even USPS with their nonexistent budget migrated their shit from XP to 7 because the benefits far outweighed the costs.
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>>25542996
What constitutes compromise? Do you seriously think that if Faust had stayed on the show, Cadance wouldn't have been an alicorn? Twilight wouldn't have been an alicorn? Equestria Girls wouldn't have happened? The library wouldn't have been destroyed?
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>>25543235
>Sony must have pushed for ideas as bad as the Smurfs
>Must have

That's an assumption. The only true statement we can make based on what's been said is "Faust and Sony had disagreements on the direction of the movie" with no blame being laid.
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>>25543232
Maybe she wanted to change the animation world, where the creatives will have equal if not 75% control over everything. Maybe she has some ulterior movtive. Maybe it was Sony. Right now, we will never know.
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>>25543242
Yeah, it's purely speculative at this point.
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>>25543240

We don't know and can't know since Faust won't talk about it. All I can go on is she has now twice left a studio due to the same blanket answer so it makes me assume she is the one who is less willing to compromise.
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>>25543243
Creators are being paid to make something and thus companies do have a right to some input.
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>>25543243

Unless creatives put up 75% of the funding why should they get 75% of the control?
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>>25543247
This is the big problem of it all. It's bad for Faust's image unless she puts out an answer.
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ITT: Equestria Girls and Hasdrone faggots hating on an artist and thinking it's acceptable to make abortion jokes every 5 minutes.
Bloody autistic messes.

None of you even know Sony's history just like you never cared for the 1986 G1 MLP show.
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>>25543260

And almost any answer she gives will either a) make her look hard to work with or b) require bad mouthing a major studio. Either way she loses.
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>>25543261

There has been exactly zero abortion jokes in this thread.
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>>25543261
I've only seen like two abortion jokes in the thread. Also, that would imply you actually cared for G1MLP before G4.
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>>25543264
The only way to win is to stick with what she has at current (TFH, Wander, her husband) and get positive feedback from it that would make this incident a thing of the past. A 'misstep' if you will.
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>>25543261
k
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>>25543280
Well, the other way she can win is if Sony finishes Medusa and it sucks.
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>>25543296

Pyrrhic victory at best. In that scenario they both lose.
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>>25543296
Sony's got a mixed track. They've done Smurfs, and Open Season, but they've also done Surf's Up and Cloudy with a chance of meatballs.

Right now they've done Hotel Transylvania, which is pretty much stuck at 5-6/10 in scores.
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>>25539350
>Fausts Twitter army assemble, give mom a safe space away from them mean old trolls :(

Rember that one guy who complimented Meghan's writing tagging Faust by saying you're even better then @Fire_Fye triggering her, I respect that guy because it was the one time Faust had to deal with reality and I hope she learns to take Critisicm from people so in the future she can hold a stable position instead of ranting until everyone is delusioned enough to protect her to the death
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>>25543340
Equestria Girls teenager shill detected. If you think Meghan McCarthy is a great writer then you are clinically autistic.
Stop fucking hating for ALL THE WRONG REASONS. It makes you idiots look like a bunch of morons from Sony, Sony is a shitty company full of japanese who can't even spell at the level of a second grader.
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>>25543178
I think when you constantly leave you have to say something in order to save face so people don't think you're to blame.

Why in the everliving fuck she never defends herself is beyond me. There's no NDA denying her from telling everything or anonimously leaking her experience with Sony.
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>>25538332
I hate to say this, but this is probably Lauren's fault. It's become painfully obvious that she quits on shit whenever she doesn't have full control, which begs the question as to why she would ever consider working for a corporation.

And it's funny how so much of this thread is defending her. I'm sure she really does want to bring change in the animation community for girls entertainment, but quitting in a huff when things don't go your way is not the right fucking way to do it.

You have to work WITH the system, not against it. People give McCarthy a lot of flack, but look where she is compared to Lauren. Moving up in the company to a position of real power while Lauren struggles to fucking stay hired.

When working in a professional field you have to fucking compromise sometimes. Imagine what would have happened if Bonnie Zacherle had said "fuck it" when Hasbro told her to make the ponies smaller and girlier.
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>>25543397

Because just because she can talk doesn't mean she should. If she bad mouths Hasbro or Sony she gets labeled as toxic and no studio will hire her.
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Hey wait, isn't it funny that we're even having this argument considering what last week's episode was about?
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>>25543206
I volunteer as leader!

>>25543404
Actually, most of this thread is bashing her.
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>>25543453
That's cute.

So what's Lauren's version of the hit song Rara makes after that confrontation, I Am Just a Pony?

TFH?
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>>25538545
There's being a delusional fanboi and there's this. The TFH thread on this very board slowed down to a crawl the day after it got funded.
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>>25543453
>>25543503
Nicely done.

>>25543206
Do you need some cancerous name for promotion?
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>>25543453

that's funny
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>>25543453
Nah, that doesn't apply.

You see, Lauren ALREADY pulled this same shit with Hasbro. This is the equivalent of Rara firing her manager and THEN telling Applejack to fuck off and that she's quitting music.

The first time it's alright. The second time makes you seem like a petulant child.
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>>25543372
>Equestria Girls teenager shill detected.

Wow, before I start to even reply to the rest of your post do you want to use any more buzz words? are you sure you don't want to call me a new-fag or a Brony? Because that's obviously how you win these big internet arguments.

WARNING CRITISM INCOMING: please evacuate the area if 1) you are Lauren Faust or 2) are a fan of Lauren Faust calling everyone a hasdrone for not agreeing with you.

>If you think Meghan Mcarthy is a great writer then you are clinically autistic.

So apparently using legitimate evidence of something that happened about someone else critiquing one writer and complimenting another 'I' must like the writer who received appraisial and therefore autistic for not agreeing to Faust being God and that every project that she has worked with fell apart 'not' because she decided to leave due to her inability to work but because she is the 'victim' oh how could I have been so ignorant please Faust make more progress on /tfh/ where the people will fund your idea of working independently to create fart jokes... Money well spent tfh funders.

>Stop fucking hating for ALL THE WRONG REASONS.

Let me just clarify something here, typing in all caps to get your dare I call it 'point' across is the equivalent of a toddler throwing a tantrum because they lack the ability to grasp the basic concept of something, also you look like an under 18 user and a /R9K/ poster.

Please if us 'Hasdrones' (people actually arguing how Faust needs to take responsibility as a writer) are hating for the wrong reasons then please tell us all what the 'right' reason is.

>It makes you idiots look like bunch of morons from Sony, Sony is a shitty company full of japanese who can't even spell at the level of a second grader.

Oh no we've been found out, not only are we giving genuine critisicm to Faust and her personal internet army but we're also in addition to being 'Hasdrones' people who work for Sony.

Also *Japanese ftfy.
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>>25543566
Wouldn't Faust's situation be like Coloratura making even better music on her own, but her lyrics are just baby noises?

It is clear Faust sucks at writing.
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>>25543586
Yeah. Like she gets on the stage and starts banging at the piano while singing completely off-key. We're talking Spike sings the Cloudsdale anthem levels of cringe. There is no moral.
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>>25543586
>>25543596
Super Best Friends Forever and the episodes of Wander Over Yonder that she wrote were fairly well received.
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>>25538384
>if she were in charge for once
>we don't count
>Faust in charge of Anons /mlp/
>inb4 she comes back to engage in board-wide bdsm
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>>25542926
If I remember correctly Faust kind of dropped the idea of Galaxy Girls a long time ago.

She tried to get someone to take it, and after it didn't take for a while she realize that it was flawed and scrapped the idea.

So it goes.

Unless she's been talking about bringing it back again, Galaxy Girls has been dead a for at least a couple years now.
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>>25543623
Yeah, maybe for very silly cartoons, but still her lore for TFH has been on the shit side.
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>>25543670

She took a lot of her galaxy girls ideas and put them in MLP.
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>>25543676
That wasn't my point, but yes. That is correct.
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>>25543580
I'm another anon and I'm not going to go through all your post addressed to someone else but the fact that you attempt to stand on some high all-knowing ground and then go into an argument with "funders of TFH paid to read fart jokes" makes you look like a complete fool. That's like saying people watch MLP for the transsexual and crossdressing episodes and that's why is has this much attention.

It's silly. I backed TFH because I wanted a fighting game with cute animals while having a silly story and designs from Lauren. If they can't deliver on that, I'll be disappointed by so far, they didn't. I never wanted, or was promised, a Shakespearean literature or the next Mortal Kombat so your and others attempts to make me feel horrible for "wasting" money on it looks outright weird.

Faust is not a God, neither is she the only one who made FiM what is it but if you can't be even slightly thankful for her assembling the team and creating the design and the franchise you can only be called a Hasdrone.
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>>25543684

She gave up and put her ideas into MLP.

It doesn't take much to change Impossible into I'm Possible.
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I still think Faust should reconsider her whole, "No humans ever in the Foenum" shit when it actually services the story.
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>>25543718

>Foenum

Can you please post using real words?
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>>25538332
Jeez I dunno Sony. Can anyone work with you?

You're so fucking hateable that not even Hasbro wanted to work with you.

How do you autistic zombies just keep on living? You'd think bankruptcy would come easy to you, but apparently no.
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>>25543720
That is what the world is called.
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>>25543737

What fucking world? My world is called Earth.
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>>25543718
So you want her writing to go from bad to pure liquid shit?
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I commend her for not surrendering her creative vision just to get it done. All the great filmmakers in film history were the same way and it shows she's not afraid to make sacrifices and stay true to herself.
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>>25543264
No it doesn't. Everybody bad mouths studios, especially fucking Sony, Hasbro, Games Workshop, etc. They're mentally retarded and worse than an autistic furfag brony.

The reason why Faust never tells anyone anything is because she's a dumb coward with no vision and grand scheme. She can't see herself becoming a great person. She has no standards. If she had any standards she wouldn't have been stuck with Craig directing shitty Fosters Home and PPG, she would have been some big-ass executive for Disney.
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>>25543738
The world in which Them's Fightin' Herds is set.
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>>25543775

Which has nothing to do with MLP or anything else. No one cares about this shitty tiny indie game
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>>25543408
AHAHAHAHAHA....aaahhh oh wait you're serious let me laugh even harder

If anything she'll be seen as a hero for bad mouthing Hasbro and Sony and helping bring them a few steps closer to their grave.
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>>25543744
It actually would add something to the story, considering humans provide protection for ungulates in exchange for their servitude. ( like how we shear sheep and have a dairy industry)
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>>25543813

A hero to nerds like you. But the studios will see her as toxic and will avoid.
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>>25538332
>inb4 Hasbro invites her back
>inb4 she accepts

It's all she's got left at this point. Ponies will be her only memorable legacy.
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>>25543813
edgy as fuck
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>>25543813
>Mommy Faust makes the bad guys go away!

It's going to take more than a stubborn bitch to crumble a whole corporation.
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>>25543823
No hasdrone, she won't. You really don't know how the real business works, do you?
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>>25543813
Have you ever worked in a professional field where your connections are everything? The same shit goes down in the music industry. You can hate an artist's guts, but if you want to make it as an artist yourself and you're not going to be some edgy black metal band you have to fucking remain polite about shit.

Talking shit will get you nowhere. It's your actions that matter. Which is why literally nobody in the animation industry ever talks shit about each other. It's all about connections.
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>>25543834

So what other jobs has she landed? After MLP she got Medusa and she's pissed that away. She's working on nothing now. Burned all bridges.
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>>25543813
To continue my rant, about this overused autistic catchphrase "She'll ruin her reputation, she'll no longer be hired for anything anymore"

Everybody knows and hates those companies, especially other companies. Hell Hasbro is so retarded that they managed to piss Hollywood of all groups with their Battleships movie.

Of course you're just a geek so what would you know about image, reputation and getting respected. In any social group you'd be seen as a loser for hanging out with the losers(Sony,Hasbro) and people would be happy if you removed said losers or complained about them like everybody else does. Only sick demented yes-men say good thing about the loser companies.

Not to mention she's not fucking Stan Lee to have any reputation in the first place to kill off. Her credentials are very very low compared to others. She hasn't had work in the animation industry since 2003.
But of course what would a geek watching my little pony ever understand how reputation really works.
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>>25543821
Ahh okay that actually makes some sense.
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>>25543834
Yes anon, I'm sure job interviewers love hearing all about how you quite every previous major project you spearheaded halfway through.
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>>25543839
>Said the dumb 16 year old kid who never worked in the industry ever.
Why do you always love talking out of your ass for 5 long years with the exact same arguments, points, bullshit reasoning? Why?
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>>25543847
Does Masahiro Sakurai have more credentials than she does?
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>>25543847
Ah, so she'll be broke, but it's okay because people will respect her!
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>>25543839
>>25543851
Please stop talking out of your ass. There are people who actually know more than you. Have the decency and step down and admit defeat. I know it's tough for a delusional stubborn autist who believes my little pony is a good show, but at least try to improve. Your fellow autistic chinese men are improving.
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>>25543847

So it's conspiracy. "Everyone" hates those big companies and it's the big companies keeping her down. Not the fact that she is a hack and unreasonable to work with.
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>>25543821
That sounds interesting.
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>>25543253
Because maybe, just MAYBE, the team you hired to make something you have zero ability to make should be mostly in charge of producing it? I'm with >>25543248. Some input, sure. But when you have decisions made by know-nothings like the ones who pushed for EqG (which churned out some good porn, at least), you should start to question how much control investors should have.
Pretty unrelated (apples and oranges), but also see FuckKo- I mean, Konami with MGSV:TPP. Microtransactions UP THE ASS.
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>>25543862
>hates My Little Pony
>posts on the My Little Pony board
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>>25543868

Can you remake your post in english and not memes?
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>>25543847

If Hasbro pissed off Hollywood then why is Hollywood still producing 6 different movies based on their properties?

I mean I know you said rant, but I didn't expect you to be so utterly dettached from reality.

Do you even KNOW how many companies are actively producing animation right now in Los Angeles? Here's a hint: The number isn't super high, and certainly not high enough that they can afford getting "rid of loser companies!!!" even if such concept existed.
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>>25543261
To be fair, I don't think there were abortion jokes. Low blow miscarriage "jokes", on the other hand, yeah.
There are some defending her as well. Read the thread.
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>>25543868

If you paid somebody to make a house,

Would you like it if they were able to just say no to everything you've asked of them and they end up making something that isn't what you wanted in first place?

I do agree that creative meddling can hurt, but it's retarded to say a company doesn't have the right to do whatever the fuck they want with what they're paying for. If it's good or bad is their problem, but it's also their right.

Plus saying no to EQG wouldn't make it not exist it would just make Hasbro ask somebody else to make it.
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>>25543868
In an ideal world, control shouldn't be based on the amount of funding people put up, but on how much revenue they bring in. The problem is, when a movie is successful, nobody can agree on who's mainly responsible for bringing in the revenue.
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Lauren Faust: Quits working for companies as often as her ovaries quit working for her.
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>>25543859
>>25543863
>>25543870
So did you ever get bullied in school? Are you yourself a respectable person? Do you put effort into the things you do or do you wallow in depression? What is your mentality for jobs and taking care of a business? it doesn't have to be a company.

But no don't answer any of that, just feel free to keep proving me right, because that's what you're doing. Despite in your delusion you somehow believe you're telling me off with your short unrelated replies to the context and questions.

Because really I'm trying to have a conversation with the autistic which is like asking /b/ on aids for quality posts. Anybody who isn't an autist from /mlp/ will automatically agree with me because horsefucker hasdrones are always wrong about everything, they're autistic. Even if they're stuck in their delusional ponychan hugbox.
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>>25543893
You have to be a really sick low-end teenager with no respect for anything to even make such a joke, let alone find it funny.
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>>25543895
>buzzwords, the post
Lauren's a grown woman, anon. She doesn't need you to white knight her terrible life decisions.
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>>25543895

>Agree with me or you're ponychan buzzword autist

lel no
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>>25543897
Cry more. It wouldn't be a joke if, well, you get the rest.
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I think this thread shows that /mlp/ does care for Lauren. It's just that she can no longer be considered just yet another cartoon director you happen to know the name of. People here tend to care more about Lauren, in a good way actually. It's just people also tend to be more strict with ones they are care about.

I greatly respect Lauren Faust as a person, writer and director. I am very grateful of the work she did with MLP. I can easily accept she might have her own faults - no one is perfect. And that won't make me like her less.
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>bump limit
>13 hours
>in a drama thread

We are slow
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>>25543909
Just like Faust. At least we still reach the end.
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ITT: Stubborn hasdrones getting wrecked big time and not knowing how to defend themselves behind that bush.
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>>25543895
This is what happens to people in Hollywood who badmouth the people they work with:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You'll_Never_Eat_Lunch_in_This_Town_Again
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>>25543909
>this thread actually finished
>Lauren didn't
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>>25543895
Holy shit all them buzzwords
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>>25543895
>that 4k projection
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>>25543895
>nigga so mad he can't understand himself

Just give up. You clearly didn't think that post through.
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>>25543916
Yes with Hollywood, the entertainment group older and bigger than goddamn Disney. How autistic are you?
Not with a horrible toy company which can't make a serious profit beyond pennies to save their lifes.

If you couldn't see that then you are dumb as a doornail if you think you can defend your position with these effortless arguments.
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>>25543884
In terms of the house thing, if you have an architect, then you should pitch some ideas to them and they can work with you to keep the house structurally sound. Otherwise, things have a chance to go horribly wrong. Digressing and differing fruit.

I agree they have a right, but that helps no one if they turn it into shit. Why go against those you hired instead of working _with_ them instead?

I'm not saying EqG shouldn't have happened at all, but they definitely had options. They could've not gone the cliche "high school" route. But they did, and the writers had no choice. They could've fought to keep any "romantic interest" out, but they didn't. Thanks Hasjew, for making a non-evil character that even _kids_ can "boo" at. One of those options: making the "dolls" not look like shit.
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>>25543935
>Not with a horrible toy company which can't make a serious profit beyond pennies to save their lifes.
[Citation Needed]
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>>25543821
H-how do we milk them anon?
How does it m-make them feel while they do it?
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>>25543941
God ponyfags are thick headed.
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>>25543945
Quick! Ask Lauren before she leaves!
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>>25543951
>still no sources on Hasbros profit margins
>shitting on people who like ponies on the My Little Pony Board
Barneyfag? That you?
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>>25543938

But you're assuming Hasbro doesn't think they working with them.

I've read interviews, they always talk about how the studio people turn toys into stories as if they were genuinely amazed by it. Like, these are 40 year old toy and industrial designers, they don't really KNOW what is good fiction, so they also don't really realize a harm is being done.

The problem here isn't Hasbro asking toys ot be put in the show they made as a toy commercial, the problem is that MLP simply lacks somebody in the team that understands good fiction like the Transformers team does.

If they could hire a storyteller for the team it would be amazing, but then again, why would they if they're clearly satisfied with the product?

I also disagree with EQG not being high school shit being a possibility, it was made precisely to headbutt with Monster High, it was going to be high school shit regardless with dolls that looked like punched-out trannies no matter what. It's what it's meant to be. There is no alternate universe where EQG isn't a travesty and we should just move on, but recognize that it's a company's right to chase whatever endeavor they please. As it is their duty to accept blame when said endeavors fail.

Things indeed have a chance to go horribly wrong. In fact I'd argue that in MLP's case they already have and the staff is not good enough to work around Hasbro's requests, but that is still their right.
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>>25543914
This week in things that never happened.
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>>>/co/77707153
>>>/co/77707205
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>>25543686
>Triggered Faust fag can't take mum critique.

Fuck me, the hug box is strong in you Faust fags
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lmao should've guessed it was tumblr with the hot opinions and buzzwords
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>>25541289
>implying EQD or Ponychan was ever a hivemind in the first place

dumb nigger
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>>25544002
A self-righteous hasdrone is worse than hitler cancer.
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>>25543945
Not sure, but if they really enjoyed it there would be no conflict.
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>>25543895
>So did you ever get bullied in school?
I got.
And you know what? The fucker was like half head higher and about 20 kg bigger that me in total.
But I did something he hadn't thought I was able. I slapped him in the face, then he took a swing at me, but I slapped him the second time yelling at him, 'WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING YOU ARE GOING TO DO?"

And then him killed me.
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>>25543969
>But you're assuming Hasbro doesn't think they working with them.
I'm having trouble understanding this part.

>The problem here isn't Hasbro asking toys to be put in the show they made as a toy commercial, the problem is that MLP simply lacks somebody in the team that understands good fiction like the Transformers team does.
>If they could hire a storyteller for the team it would be amazing
According to pic related, there was a solid baseline for a story in the making. We might not ever know what was going to happen.

>I also disagree with EQG...when said endeavors fail.
Still sucks that it could've been better. At least we can thank Daniel Ingram for the enjoyable music.

>Things indeed have a chance to go horribly wrong. In fact I'd argue that in MLP's case they already have and the staff is not good enough to work around Hasbro's requests, but that is still their right.
Doesn't make it any less of a damn shame. They have this great thing, and won't let the good writers loose on this thing. And it still bugs me that they won't get a bigger timeslot for 45-60 minute episodes. Some of them could use the treatment.
Not to mention the money they COULD be making on merch that isn't being made that they're completely missing out on, in theory. If anyone knows, what were the sales figures for the new AJ sets and non-blindbag pone figures? I thought those apple family figures with the clothes were qt as FUCK.
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>>25544012
PFFT. saved

>>25544027
Your English is worse than usual. Go to bed.
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>>25543998
You fucking moron.
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>>25544040
no u
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>>25544030

I'm saying that Hasbro genuinely believes they're working fine with their creative staff. Which means that it's unlikely to change.

I'm saying that sadly we are stuck with stuff like this happening, while poiting out that we can atleast be glad that it's done out of genuine lack of foresight instead of out of a lack of respect for good stories. Theysimplydon't know what a good story is.

tl;dr, were fucked, the show is fucked, but theres no reason to take it personally like some folks do

Sales figures aren't usually released about individual products, but overall MLP has kept the good sales it had last year, with the only sales drop being caused by EQG3 product underperfoming thanks to the movie's release being delayed in non-USA markets, which naturally, means the movie wasn't able to advertise the toys in international market properly.
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>>25543686
Was she going to write a silly story, though? I don't know what was involved with the backers, and if that was promised or a stretch goal or something.

It's a fighting game. I only expected some flavor lore. I'm not a fighting game fan, so the idea that there needs to be a story there perplexes me.
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>>25543045
As a Faustfag I can unequivocly say that "mama Faust" is something disgusting diaperfag furries say.

The Faust fandom is way cool. The furry fandom (sorry, "bronies") is all about shitting dick nipples.
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>>25544270
I don't actually remember any of the lore being in the rewards for backers. It was just a neat thing they started doing and promised after every money milestone. People complain that it's a more serious world than Equestria and then complain when the stories are non'serious like Oleander's, Pom's or Dragonhorse's.

I'm with you, it's only a fun flavor lore. I don't see anyone in the /tfh/ thread unhappy with the stories they got.
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>>25544219
And yet it continues to hurt no less.

>Sales figures ... international market properly.
COUGHmarket-speak-for-toys-that-weren't-going-to-sell-any-way-but-came-up-with-an-excuse-for-it-to-cover-their-asses-for-an-obviously-inferior-productCOUGHCOUGH
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Is it possible that they haven't criticized her ideas out of fear she would quit?
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>>25544383
You aren't looking hard enough.
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>>25544017
You are worse then hitler cancer friend
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Bump :^)
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I still miss mom ;^(

Now mein little kampf is ruined
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>>25544518
Dunno, but I bet that EqD poster is right; she'll fall out with Mane6 sooner or later.
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>>25544925
>mom
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>>25538332
Anyone see this on Cartoon Brew?
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/pixar/pixar-president-ed-catmull-i-think-well-have-a-solo-woman-director-in-the-next-five-years-122451.html

>"At CTN I attended a "Woman in Animation" panel, a group that advocates for a 50/50 representation of men and women in animation. Lauren Faust attended as one of the speakers and related some of her experiences as a woman in the industry. She mentioned "Medusa" as being one of her favorite projects she's worked on because there were so many women in leadership roles who really understood each other and the main protagonist of the film.

When the leadership at Sony changed, however, she announced that the executives weren't as excited about the film, and as a result, the project has unfortunately been shelved."
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>>25544983
>posts it in an archived dead thread
wew lad
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>>25544997
*almost
figures, I'm a retard
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My fellow bronies I'm bored

Who wants to post pony memes
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