>>15864636
Whoever made this clearly hasn't seen the shows
>>15864636
Rau Le Creuset should be "great tier" in this ranking, doesn't he?
>>15864636
>betther
what fucking misdeeds were done to rustal because honestly the guy is typical mustache twirling no effort shit. Mcgillis makes alot more sense for that place. Char and Master asia belong in great. haman is high. FF is mid
>rustal
>badguy
What?
>Quattro
>villain
What?
>>15864636
>Light, Lelouch, Quattro, Gendo, and Rustal
>villains
>Johan anything other than very lucky and bad writng
I smell ANN sheeple manipulation
>>15864986
Light being a villain is believable at least, since a villain can be the protagonist and because the whole point of the series is to showcase how he was pretty much the crazy bad guy.
>>15864986
Suzaku was the hero.
>>15864636
You made this thread in /a/. Fuck off.
Motivation is irrelivent all that matters is the quality of writing. Ranking villains into tiers by motivation is the sign of a hack
>>15864636
>shitdara in elder god tier
Fuck off with this uchiha scum
>>15864636
Who made this? Why is most of it /m/ characters but they shoehorned in some stuff like Light Yagami and Uchiha Madara?
>>15864960
Beyond that
>Rustal
>Bad things done to him
Mother fucker was in a prime position of power in the Earth Sphere, with doting subordinates all around him, he had everything to lose by upsetting the power balance
>Aizen
>The same
He was just a power grabber
>Gato
>Doing what they do to survive
I don't think attempting to nuke the Earth counts
It gets a few right though.
Treize was right the entire time.
>Iron Mask
>not in KEK tier
>>15864636
>Treize in elder god tier
is not hard be better than all the cast of Gundam Wing
>>15864636
>Ketejina
>shit
Evil villains that are just fucking evil aren't bad, retard.
>>15866032
Rustal was defending his position and domain.
When the season started they iterated that McGillis was engrossing more and more upon things that were the Arianrod fleet's responsibilities.
Furthermore Rustal knew about the things McGillis did to get into power and had to take action in order to maintain order.
However technically there were no misdeeds done to him. Maybe one should replace him with Gaelio. Even though he's even less of a villain.
>>15866650
They're bad villains because moralfags who are just moralfags for no reason are bad heroes.
>>15864636
>Gilgamesh
>Motives are a mystery
He literally says his motives in each appearance he makes as an antagonist.
>>15864636
>Rustal
>retaliating against misdeeds
what the what?
Rustal was Mr Status Quo. He's hardly even a villain, he's just the wall that Macky was bashing his head against. He wasn't retaliating against shit, he was just standing in the way of people who were trying to change things.
>>15864636
Good villains are ones you love to hate
Admiring villains is a thing of people who believe themselves to be way above other people and feel misunderstood
>Master Asia not being in elder god tier
>>15864636
>Treize
Elder god tier, this post is 10/10
>>15864636
>Subete
>not in Elder God tier
He was a petty douchebag for the entire last half of the series and it was amazing. He even stopped giving a fuck about the girl to focus on fucking over the protag.
>>15864636
>Rustal
>misdeeds
Only misdeed involving Rustal is that he didn't have Barbatos' mace jammed through his fucking chest.
Anyone with any sense knows you can't just put characters in tiers based on qualifications and simple criteria. Execution is everything.
Just because two villains have similar methods and goals doesn't mean they are comparable in quality and impact on their narrative.
>>15864636
>Full Frontal
>Delusional
Misguided maybe, but not Delusional
>>15864636
>villains just being actual villains and not some bullshit grey morality wankfest is shit tier
nah cunt im sick of these wannabe twists just give me a sick fuck i love to hate
>>15866748 , >>15867849 see >>15866684 you fucking simpletons.
Kotomine is still god tier, I don't care what anyone says. Give him his own, priestly Gundam.
>>15867903
>Kotomine
chuuni priest from Fate/Apocrypha
crazy priest from Fate/tay night and Zero
Which one?
Treize is the most boring character in Wing.
>>15868018
The one that isn't a fucking Shirou clone.
>>15867813
Anyone who thinks militarized Zeon has a leg to stand on is delusional.
>>15867883
Still don't understand that post, even in this context. For example, Katejina is paired up with Usso, who is actually a pretty grey-area hero with things like the graveyard scene and pulling the trigger on the giant dick cannon.
>>15868059
You shut your fucking shit-taste mouth.
>>15864636
>>Ketejina
>>shit
This is bait.
>>15868065
Someone pointed this out on /v/ a while back:
Villains who are completely right in what they're doing, the only problem is that they had to do something unpleasant (Like murder a couple thousand people to divert power) to get the job done (Like open a hole in an orbital blockade). Since the hero is still a retarded childish brat that thinks nothing should be solved with such a "horrible" tradeoff they decide to go fight the villain, despite the fact they're just making things worse.
Something rare in fiction, and relatively rare in fact.
>>15864636
>Villains who motives are hard to fault and are better then the Hero's
If you believe such a thing is true, you are either an idiot or sociopath, maybe a Nazi too since you used cuck.
>>15868059
...that's not how you spell Relena.
>>15869336
that's not how you spell Quatre
>>15869302
Who do you think makes these stupid charts? /v/, /tv/, and /pol/ anons. They're definitely stupid Nazi sociopaths.
>>15864668
this
/thread
>>15864636
Who's the shit tier fat guy?
>>15866717
>He's hardly even a villain
This is actually an interesting support. On one side, Tekkadan suffered under the system Rustal supports and benefits from. Rustal never knew about this so all he sees is people attacking the society he benefits from. Can Rustal really be called a villain for that?
Well, okay he can still be called a villain for How he fought but not why he's fighting.
>>15867683
Well, there was the Dainsleif issue.
>>15872724
No, in fact Rustal it's not a villan. Rustal represents a vision, a reformist one, but still tied to the past. Macky, instead, wanted to be the founding father of a total new status quo.
>>15864636
>h
I think this list is a joke, because it is completely wrong.
Hisoka is evil because it sexually pleasures him, and Lights main motivation was [s]JUSTICE[/s] lust for POWER.
>>15864636
If this is about /m/ anime, probably remove pictured characters from non-/m/ animes like Death Note.
>>15864636
There should also be villains that do what they do because of MUH FATE, mirroring the hero, like Fuuma in X/1999 or, if I get it right, Master Therion in Demonbane.
And villains who are basically just real jerks, like Dio and Hitler.
>>15873084
I thought Master Therion was just doing what he did for amusement.
>>15864636
>What makes for a good anime villain?
A villain that has credible motivations.
Char in 0079 is an example of a good villain
Char in any post 0079 shows is an example of how not to do a villain type. He becomes a caricature, a laughing stock.
IBO's manlet is another example of a stupid villain. Strike that, all the characters in IBO are fucking stupid.
Dewey:
>went crazy from to exposure to old-earth memes and lolis and somehow these two are connected in a Freudian way
Is this a good villain?
>>15864636
SLAINE DID NOTHING WRONG.
NOTHING WRONG.
>>15873138
Slaine is an interesting example. He goes from being decently written villain in season 1 to an absolute stupid brain dead person in season 2.
Blame the fucking writers. To be honest the writers basically made everyone a fucking idiot in season 2.
>>15866671
>>15864636
McGillis was the true villain of the story. Or, to be more accurate, its anti-hero.
>>15873146
He wasn't a villain in S1. Have you watched the show?
>>15864636
>Katejina
>just evil
I dont think the person who made this has seen Victory Gundam, and is basing this on information from people who haven't seen their show either and are basing their opinions of caricatures of the show's characters made jokingly by people who have seen it.
>>15873150
>He wasn't a villain in S1. Have you watched the show?
Unfortunately I watched both seasons. Slaine was definitely a villain in season 1. While he may be an underdog because the other aristocratic martians view him as low scum, he's still the villain. He schemes to have them killed, he wants the princess to himself etc... He's basically on a revenge path against the martians (a la Char against the Zabis). His character just got neutered in season 2.
>>15864636
Villain motivations aren't the end all be all. They can be important, but execution is more important than premise.
For example, a guy who just wants to rule the world can be better than a guy who's more morally grey because of how theatrical he gets or because he fits the overall theme of his story better. It's like saying every hero is better by making him more morally grey than he is currently.
>>15864636
While I agree that an unrequired love is usually the lamest villain motivation, Subete was god tier precisely because of that
>>15872724
>Rustal never knew about this
Rustal and most of G-horn's upper crust is well-aware of the suffering Mars' people have endured under the current regime, hence why Kudelia becomes a target for highlighting the inequality in the system. Rustal's fleet was also involved in the Dort massacre, so that at least he is fully aware of.
Does anyone care to explain what the fuck Glemy's deal is? During that whole Moon Moon shit, it looks likes he's piloting a conpletely seperate vessel while Chara is getting spit roasted by the natives. He only grabs Leina and then he fucks off. Why was he piloting another vessel, why did no one bench him like the rookie he is? Even Gottn deals with his shit.
>>15873867
He's retconned into having been a higher up for a while due to family ties around that point, and this is actually plot important since it's tied into Puru, which is why they couldn't just promote him and had to suddenly act like he was already supposed to be like that from the start.
A good voice actor and memorable lines, the rest doesn't count.
Dio Brando comes to mind.
>>15873872
Piece of shit retcon, I thought I missed something. I'm fairly sure he isn't even in the first Moon Moon episode, and just grabs Leina at the end of the second one, already in that other vessel. Thank you for such a quick answer, I never consider meta shit like that as I'm watching.
>>15866684
Hi /v/
>>15864636
Katejena was just dont stick your dick carzy tier.