So, part 2 of Digimon Adventure Tri is out, what are your thoughts?

>>13984163
>jobbermon.jpg

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GENUINELY PISSED OFF
>filler for 2 1/2 episodes
>left with more questions than answers
>fan pandering bullshit
>an entire episode without a battle

What the fuck am I watching?

Honestly all we needed was the last episode and nothing more,
why are they putting so much filler bullshit into the series?

>>13984256
to drag it out and get as much nostalgia bucks as possible

>>13984256
>What the fuck am I watching?
Digimongelion.

>>13984264
wasn't that Tamers

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>>13984256
In all honesty Xros wars was much better than this shit
>plot was constantly progressing
>better music
>hardly any fanservice till minervamon showed up
>character development instead of incessant bitching
>cool locations instead highschool dogshit
>clear goal and enemy to defeat


This has none of that, it's fan pandering and filler.

GET TO FUCKING POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>13984272
Tamers was really good, Tri is just a bunch of teenagers whining about shit and less than 5 minutes of fighting other mons.

>>13984289
oh, you meant the bad parts of Eva

thank god I was too lazy to get around to watching this

>>13984249
That's Imperialdramon, not DeadLeomon.

Taichi = Biscuit
Yamato = Orga

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The only good thing about this part

>>13984163
>digimon
>/m/
I don't see the connection

>>13984281
>hardly any fanservice
>what is lillithmon

>>13984364
There's a bunch of cyborgs and mechanical digimons.

Even Alphamon is an Alfa Romeo it can transform into a Digimon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HHQHYitW3M

>>13984281
>>character development instead of incessant bitching

For the Digimon maybe. The humans in Xros Wars are the worst in the franchise.

>>13984377
>mechs that transform into muscle cars
8/10 Good shit Bandai

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>>13984381
Only saw maybe ten episodes of Xros Wars, and that really only applies to like...half of the humans.

Pic related:THESE are the worst humans in the franchise.

Leomon died....by the power of moe

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>>13984420

>Pic related:THESE are the worst humans in the franchise.

Nope.

>>13984420
Those humans had character development. The Xros Wars characters had near zero development. Some even regressed from nothing to become absolute shit.

>>13984377
It's not a mecha series just because it has a couple elements, unless you're discussing the robotic digimon themselves then this is off topic garbage

>>13984281

Xros was also /m/.

Unlike this.

Mimi is a slut

>>13984437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCuBj8ozC4U
here is your reply

>>13984437
Bitching is not /m/, so shut the fuck up or go cry to the mods.

>>13984420
The first few episodes of this are really good, tons of characer development. Fat kid also gets the girl right away.

The problem with this was the show going full mary sue with takuya and kouji

>>13984475
Don't forget about the kids getting their asses beaten on and on, and on, and on by the Royal Knights.

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>none of the kids even look surprised that Leomon died this time

>>13984420
That's not Zero Two.

>>13984256
HEY GUYS, REMEMBER HOW CUTE MEICOOMON AND MEI ARE? HERE ARE THE CHARACTERS SAYING "HOW CUTE" SO YOU DON'T FORGET?

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What does this face convey?

>>13984495

In fairness, the Royal Knights' whole deal is being practically unbeatable.

>>13984842
Anon-kun, you're such a
FUCKING FAGGOT HOLY SHIT

>>13984842
Hey kid, wanna yiff? Too bad. It's happening.

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>>13984433
>>13984381
That's how I like it,
It's digi MON not fanservice hour for teeny tots.
From the beginning I wanted a monster centric show, and xros was delivered.
>digimon has a goal
>digimon has a theme song
>digimon villians
>digimon is essentailly the protagonist, the human is just there so that people won't bitch that this is a humanless show.


Notice how none of the digimon really have much of a personality in tri, disgusting


>>13984373
Present, but didn't do anything that fanservicy till the second half.

>>13984849

Which is precisely why using them is a bad idea, because the two leads getting their asses beat by them while the other kids (one of whom is the cool new guy who just joined) stare at them for 10 fucking episodes in a row is FUCKING AWFUL.

>Derp faces everywhere
>Government bitch's sudden smile
>Leomon is fucking dead again because lol memes
>AAAAAANNNNNNGGGGGGGSSSSSSSTTTTTTT!
I wish someone would take digimon away from the people writing digimon.

>>13984420
>Spotlight hogs 1&2 and the literally useless for a third of the show gang
please don't remind me!

>>13984793
That's more due to the shitty artstyle.

>>13985199

Considering most of the Royal Knights come from MC digimon of other seasons, I wonder if it was a snipe at Frontier.

>Leomon is kill for real because he died in the human world
Meicoomon must die.

>>13985405
Yeah, just like Vamdemon.

>>13985410

Except he didn't

man, fuck 02

>>13984793
He died 9 times in the entire franchise

It's like they're trying their level best to make me hate the characters I loved growing up.

>>13985448
But Anonymous, I still love Mimi, Jou and Koushiro, while remaining neutral towards Takeru, Hikari and Sora.

>>13985455
Jou just spent 7.5 episodes being an insufferable twit.

>>13985448

Really? Feels like they're trying their hardest to not have the digimon fight to me.

>>13985467
Jou spent 7.5 episodes questioning why the fuck he got slapped with a destiny of "Hey kid who wants to be a doctor, tough shit but you gotta fight evil"

He was being torn up about it because he still loved Gomamon but he didn't want to fight, he didn't understand WHY he was chosen to fight, and couldn't come to grips with the conflicting shit in his life

>>13985499
And being an insufferable twit while doing so.

>>13985499

If anyone should be questioning that it should be Mimi. She was always the most useless member.

>>13985503
>insufferable twit

Not really unless you demand all your protagonist act like hotheaded retards who only fight and eat like Goku and Luffy

>>13985509
I don't. But lets not forget that this IS a continuation of dumb shonen shit. It's nostalgic dumb shonen shit, but it's still dumb shonen shit. Man the fuck up, stop leaving your friends to protect the world by themselves, and study when you're done.

>>13985508
That's not Mimi's personality though. Her personality has always been "follow her feelings" in whatever direction they take her.

Her little mini-arc here was just a small wake up call that being true to yourself is fine, but that doesn't mean you're always nice or always right.

Jou's mini-arc was that he had all the reason he needed to fight (Gomamon) but was ruminating too much to realize it, which is probably what fucks up his studying and school too. Since he's probably one of those fucks who reads a question and then wastes 5 minutes trying to decipher if there is any tricks in the verbage or context of the question

tl;dr version of their character arcs, Mimi needed to think a bit more, Jou needed to think a bit less.

>>13985519
You're misinterpreting the issue. The reason he wasn't fighting wasn't because "I have to study." His entire internal conflict is based more on "Why do I have to fight? Why was I chosen?," which stems more from Jou's own sense of self doubt and lack of self worth because fuck, he's a guy who dedicates so much god damn time to studying and still is having a lot of difficulty. Is someone like that really supposed to save the world?

>Togemon goes for the needle spray move
>"Wait, isn't that needle spray move an AoE attack? But the heli is nearb-"
>As expected, the heli goes down
Goddammit.

>>13985537
It's their fault for fucking flying too close
They're lucky it was just the giant cactus spraying needles, and not literally any of the others besides Tailmons they got to close to.

Though the headlines
"ANGEL SHOOTS DOWN HELICOPTER WITH LASER FIST. IS GOD ANGRY WITH THE NEWS MEDIA?" would have been fune

Do Digimon have gender's?

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>>13984163
>what are your thoughts?
FUCKING
AMAZING

>>13985448
The whole point of the series is that the Destined have by and large either lost sight of their most important virtues (Tai, Jou) or have to recognize faults now that they ignored when they were younger (Mimi). Getting up to Ultimate requires more personal growth.

>>13985564
>"ANGEL SHOOTS DOWN HELICOPTER WITH LASER FIST. IS GOD ANGRY WITH THE NEWS MEDIA?"
Imagine if the others shot down the heli.

>DINOSAUR SHOOTS DOWN HELICOPTER WITH A FIREBALL. ARE THE DINOSAURS BACK TO RECLAIM THE EARTH?

>Leomon was deleted, so he's 100% dead

It's like rubbing salt in the wound.

>>13985666
He shows up in 02's epilouge, right?
He'll be fine.

>>13985930
epilogue is not canon.

>>13985930
I don't think he was in 02's epilouge. Orgemon was though.

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>>13985940
Everything from 02 is canon.
Hell, the whole point of Tri is to better bridge Adventure to the epilogue.
Which is why you have Tai being pushed into thinking about a career path and having to find a way to properly manage digital world and real world affairs.
It's even why you see Sora being a good seamstress, they're setting that shit up.

>>13985971
But Yamato isn't a serial killer in the 02 epilogue

>>13985971
It isn't to bridge Adventure to the epilogue. The point of Tri is to cash in on the anniversary of the franchise by using the most popular series. I highly doubt they are going to even go that far into the future. Everything happening in this goes against the epilogue.

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>>13985983
>Everything happening in this goes against the epilogue.
Alright, fine.
How so?

>>13985989
Not him, but for one, Joe isn't going to become a doctor with those results.

>>13985989
Miyako is dead. So she isn't marrying Ken. The existence of Meiko who isn't in the epilogue, the couples the movies are pushing that aren't in the epilogue, you want to argue that people are being pushed towards their 02 career paths but most of them have no hint at 02 careers. Yo can only argue Taichi and Sora. Yamato isn't showing any signs of being an astronaut and is deep into music, Takeru isn't showing any signs of being a writer, Hikari isn't showing any signs of being a teacher, Jou is failing his medical exams, Mimi isn't heading towards cooking. The show isn't even hinting at the 02 epilogue and is completely ignoring it.

>>13985989
Mimi going back to Japan, while she's still living in America in the epilogue.

Taichi's goggles.

The 01 and 02 cast not really being close.

Lack of Chosen appearing everywhere.

All that stuff could still happen after another timeskip, but Tri clearly isn't really "setting up" anything for that epilogue so far.

>>13985395
Nah, they only used two Royals in Frontier, both of them that hadn't been used in previous seasons.

>>13984256
>episodes
I'm confused, isn't Digimon Tri a series of movies, rather than a serialized TV anime?

>>13986055
The OVA's been broken up into four episodes for Crunchyroll's stream.

>>13986038
>>13986033
>>13986016

http://digi-egg.tumblr.com/post/107921958812/interview-with-the-producer-for-digimon-adventure

>A clue to this season resides in the final monologue from the 02 epilogue. What will the kids do as they confront the different conflicts so that a union between Digimon and Humans is plausible?

>>13986058
It's still two movies and not 8 episodes, though.

>>13986062
See, you're misreading and misunderstanding that. They never said it tied to the epilogue. They are talking about how the show is going to deal with a world where humans and Digimon coexist like the epilogue. Not that the epilogue is the end game.

I'm glad Joe stopped being a little bitch. I don't know how I can handle another movie of that.

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Mimi best girl forever and always

>>13986088
I know right? The reason I was okay with it in the movie was that I knew that this was probably going to lead to him getting over it which thankfully he did

>>13986058
They are actually movies though

>>13986062
How does posting that refute any of what they said?

Better than the last one, still room for improvement

>>13984256
>left with more questions than answers
Literally nothing wrong with this unless they don't answer them in the later movies

>>13984163
I haven't seen it, but I was never excited because I knew it was going to be some le quirky animu with very little fights, ditching memorable villains for "dark versions," trying too hard to expand the world, and a lot of nostalgia wank.

01 gave us Devimon, Etemon, Myotismon, Dark Masters, Apocalymon, Warp Digivolve, Omnimon, Crests, and so on. I've been satisfied since 2000.

>>13986069
Yes they did.

>>13986095
>Miyako is dead so she isn't going to marry Ken
>Ken died at the same time
>He's still alive

If what they said made sense maybe they would have tried to refute them.

>>13986111
Out of all those villains the only legit good one is Myotismon

I can't believe you actually put Apocalymon there. Nobody actually likes that guy and how he came of nowhere

>>13985564
>>13985659
CACTUS SHOOTS DOWN HELICOPTER WITH CACTUS PINS. HAS GLOBAL WARMING GONE TOO FAR?

>>13986160
>Not loving Etemon
Did a monkey piss on your blue suede shoes, baby?

>>13985564
>>13985659
>>13986177
I swear, this almost makes that scene worth it. Almost.

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I love me some shows about unidentified lifeforms and them fighting each other, as well as some different language decoding.

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>>13986208
So I wasn't the only one who thought that

>>13986207
Etemon's okay but I enjoyed him as entertainment. As a villain he was pretty lame.

>>13986064
>>13986093
I'm just saying, it's easy for someone who's only watching the OVAs through Crunchyroll to forget that.

>>13986114
Where?

>>13986062
Add this to the pile as well.

http://kazarinn.tumblr.com/post/137401816962/otomedia-february-2016-digimon-adventure-tri

>Because the question of what kind of adults they’ll become has already been answered, we’re working on the problem of getting to that answer, in a sort of reverse problem-solving

>Indeed, we’re in a position where we’re filling in the gaps towards an answer that already exists

>Yamato’s absorbed in his band right now, but somehow he’s going to become an astronaut in the future

>>13985930
He didn't, Ogremon did. Probably the reason they didn't kill him.

I'm glad Ken showed up, but I wonder why he's the Kaiser again? Did time get messed up THAT bad?

>>13986661
Blame Ryo, is his fault everything it happened in Adventure 2.

>>13986215
I'm just noticing this: Koushiro, what the hell is up with your shirt? Did you sneak over to Hawaii to bang Mimi or something?

>>13985971
>smugleaf.jpg

>>13984348
w-what is this?

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>>13986669
He buys his clothes online because he can't deal with girls.

>>13986675
Garfieldmon, even Leomon is gay for him.

>>13986677
>is

Was

Sucks to be a jobber. Poor guy can't catch a break. Also, Jou, Yamato and Taichi was pissing me off throughout this movie.

>>13986692
Leomon is not a jobber, he's the black guy.

>>13986692
Why Yamato? He's basically pissed at Taichi for not having his shit together, which is a legitimate grievance.

>>13986723
True, but they're interaction towards each other seemed too childish imo.

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>>13986677
>him

World on the Knife

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>>13984348
>>13984842
Great, now I want to fuck this thing. Thanks Toei.

>>13986851
Digimon: convincing people they want to fuck cats, plants, foxes, birds, rabbits, and really just about anything since 2000.

OK, we know now that Ken is alive and in full EDGE mode and that he could control Imperialdramon all by himself. And for a some reason nobody asked about any of the other 02 chosen children, not even Daisuke, so, what the fuck is happening? Are they retarded or ignoring things on purpose?

>>13986876
Pretty much. >>13985017

>>13986935
Nobody liked the Adventure 02 kids, not even the Adventure 01 characters.

>>13985971
I want to fuck that plant.

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>>13986967
What if there's no hole?

>>13987015
There's a mouth.

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>>13987015
>What if there's no hole?

I've always avoided watching 02 because /m/ told me it was shit, but I want to watch Tri. So someone please clear this up for me: wasn't that "Ken" guy supposed to have turned good?

>>13986935
How the way everyone all reacted when they saw Ken, was like he never a friend. They see him as just the Kaiser. Also, how did he get Imperialdramon without Daisuke?

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>>13987112
Yes, in fact the very first scene of the Tri series is him getting BTFO along with the rest of the 02 cast.

>>13987125
I see... Didn't put the link with that scene, the first Tri movie was too long ago.

Two things I (think I) noticed:
- The female detective smiled very briefly when the cat became evil. Given that it's also her fault Ken go to it, maybe she's in on it?
- There seemed to be a momentary focus on Ken having some kind of bracelets? Has he always had these, or is he perhaps a puppet/slave om someone/something else? Which could explain him returning from the dead?

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>>13987193
This is the old Kaiser uniform.

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>>13987215
And this is the new one. It's actually slightly less ostentatious than the original, but the bracelets have always been part of the design.

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>>13987193

>>13986815
Yamato is so edgy.

>>13987112

Yes, I don't know what's happening with 02.

The 02 kids were shown to be rekt in the first movie and it seemed like everyone forgot about them so I thought they were under some sort of illusion or maybe in a parallel world that changed their memories.

However now Ken is shown as evil again (ignoring what happened in 02) and they all recognized him so they didn't have a memory wipe or anything.

I guess we'll have to wait for more of the plot to understand what is going on with 02, I just hope it doesn't end up being some fanfiction-tier bullshit.

I don't think you should watch Tri without watching 02 at this point.

So is it out or not?

Cause I can't find it anywhere.

>>13987828
Horriblesubs has it

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I think that they're PLAYING WITH MY GODDAMNED HEART.

>>13988181
They seem pissed at each other, maybe Takeru cheated on Hikari?

>>13988204
I don't know where you're getting that from.
She's playing coy. If they were angry, why would they be together in almost every scene?

Calling it now: The 02 peeps were defeated and captured by a new super evil Digimon and Ken needs the other Chosen Children to help save them but he knows they're full of doubts and too weak now so he became the Digimon Kaiser again to toughen them up and prepare them for what they'll have to face. Ken simply being evil again for some reason is too obvious to be true.

>>13988233
I don't mean in this scene in particular, in the previous ovas and even in the beginning of this one, they were gruffly throwing innuendos at each other.

>>13988270
What, like Hikari telling Meiko that she'd better watch out for Takeru?
She's playing off her own emotions.
>No, I don't care, he can flirt with whoever he wants.

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>>13986851

>>13984381
>hating on Taiki, Nene and Kiriha

also Shoutmon is still the main protagonist regardless

and the way they handled it is much better than Tri

>>13988244
I like this, but why would he be a dick about forcing Mei-chan to evolve to kill Leomon?

>Hotspring episode
Check

>School festival
Check

Now all Tri needs is the obligatory beach and Kyoto field trip episode. Then everything will be complete.

>>13988244
Ken was fighting with the others as well, besides the fact that he can't evo Imperialdramon without Daisuke, unlike this time. I doubt he is the real Ken.

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>Hack/SAO crossover is a thing

Let's be honest. How much time before Banco forces Digimon onto this too?

>>13988764
Kiriha was complete shit.

>>13989654
>He didn't see the brief Agumon appearance in SAO

It's terrible.

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Hikari best girl

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>>13989676
But that's wrong.

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>>13989685
Mimi is fine too

>>13989676
Said nobody. Well Tri Hikari is okay I guess

Honestly, all the Adventure girls are pretty awful except Mimi. Felt like she's the only one the writers consistently cared about in the series'

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>>13989692
>Said nobody. Well Tri Hikari is okay I guess
Of course I'm talking about Tri Hikari, I probably should have used a more relevant picture.

Adventure and 02 Hikari is a dependent wreck.

>>13989685
"Say that to my face."
Why is eternal best girl so based?

>>13984457
>related
>Xros war apperance of all the MC digimons
>Omnimon's fucking quality art
Holy shit I can't stop laughing

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>>13989699
Because she is living Purity

>>13989707
And she was able to evolve Lilymon into Rosemon because she lost her purity.

>>13989709
Purity as in innocence.

Not virginity.

>>13989721
Yeah and she lost her innocence in America.

>>13989724
oh you

>>13989664
Pretty much, but his character is handled much better than anything that has happened in tri-faggotry

I've adored digimon my entire life but this fucking new tamer and her garbage dicks partner is ruining my love for the franchise.

>>13989703
I think he meant Digimon that actually appeared in the movies, anon

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>>13989735
I know, but the art quality between the movie and xros is hilarious

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>>13989692
>Honestly, all the Adventure girls are pretty awful except Mimi.
and what makes it worse for them is Mimi is incredible anyway despite their comparative insignificance

>Felt like she's the only one the writers consistently cared about in the series'
and if anything, the one they care about the most out of all the chosen in tri.

she's had a near-universal appreciation since it started

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>>13989741
>Comparing a high-budget Hosada movie with a TV sequel literally nobody asked for that had even worse animation than it's predecessor

>>13989728
I completely disagree. The writers has 0 idea what to do with Kiriha and when. He was constantly flip-flopping on where he stood and his Digimon were even worse as they had practically no character, especially compared to the manga where they actually did. Compare that with Jou who has a beginning-middle-end to his issues from the first movie, has one-on-one time with his Digimon to actually talk about said issues, his Digimon even gets screentime away from him, something that never happened in Adventure and eventually comes together by the end. It's not the most perfect story thread but they at least had some kind of story idea here.

That's not even getting to comparing how their respective series handled Mimi and Nene

>>13989749
>Comparing
>Not just laughing at the sudden art shift

>>13989755
>The writers has 0 idea what to do with Kiriha and when. He was constantly flip-flopping on where he stood and his Digimon were even worse as they had practically no character, especially compared to the manga where they actually did.
Kiriha's Digimon having no character in the anime made no sense given how most of the other Digimon did.

Don't forget his horrendous development arc. Heavy-handed as fuck.

>That's not even getting to comparing how their respective series handled Mimi and Nene
Nene was handled poorly because she was also changing all the time.

At least they were better in Hunters.

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>>13989664
But he's Yamato 0.2

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>>13989778
No, Kouji is Yamato 2.0. Kiriha is 4.0. Also Yamato's problem was that he kept trying to be mature when he could not while Kiriha was all about muh strength or some bullshit

>>13989766
>At least they were better in Hunters.
That's sort of true but I think Nene downgraded

>>13989785
>Kouji is Yamato 2.0.
Not really, He doesn't go full retarded like Yamato did

>>13989778
>Kiriha's face
Ahahaha that's absolutely terrible.

>>13989785
>I think Nene downgraded
How she was portrayed in Death Generals set that up so I'm not surprised you said that.

>>13989796
But he is the dark cool brooding bad boy with brother issues that is also the most popular in his series

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>>13989800
>But he is the dark cool brooding bad boy with brother issues
Did Kouji every gave a shit about his brother?

V-Tamers and Xros Wars didn't kill Leomon.

>>13989766
>>13989755
What, Nene had a start-to-finish development. Dunno what you're complaining.

Kiriha is heavyhanded and just there to serve as rival. With that said I disagree in that his mons having "character" when they don't.

I still put XW over Tri at any given moment though.

>>13989806
*ever

>>13989807
>Nene had a start-to-finish development.
She really didn't.

All she went on about was Yuu.

>>13989807
>>13989814
Actually, disregard that: I know what you're saying now.

The trouble with Nene was her development ended way too early. Once she joins Xros Heart, she doesn't really go any further.

>>13989807
>Xros Wars didn't kill Leomon.
MadLeomon.

He came back to life though.

>>13989814
>>13989820
Well yeah, having a focused development does that.

And I disagree on the grounds that after joining XH, she slowly warms up to the gang then realizes what mistakes she has been doing, and supports Taiki.

So pretty basic and stuff. Not sure why you wanted it to last long.

>>13989853
That's my point anon.

>>13984381
There is literally nothing wrong with the characters in Xros. A character does not have to change to be a good character, they can be an interesting character from the start. Not everyone is a pile of shit that needs to be remade from the ground up

>>13989866
Leomon get killed in every season, not die for real, anon

>>13989879
That might be true but there's a problem when they try to actually do something with them and it falls flat like Kiriha. I don't really have much of a problem with the humans in Xros, but Kiriha was a complete fuck up. They did not know what to do with this guy or where his ideals really lie. Is he good or is he bad or does he follow his own path? He doesn't want to be Taiki's friend or have anything to do with him until he does, he acts like he's gotten friendlier around him during Death Generals and then out of nowhere he starts acting like his old self during the Gravimon arc making evil faces and intentionally fucking over the rest of the team. He gets brainwashed twice, fucking twice in the series. Even Yamato only got brainwashed once. Kaito from Kamen Rider Gaim was Kiriha done better.

And similarly, it's like Frontier when you try and yet do too little like everybody that wasn't Takuya and Kouji, that's what was with Taiki. It's not like he was bad, he just was there. He had a role to play and played it but then sometimes they would try to give him depth but not actually do anything with it. It's basically like why did you even try?

>A character does not have to change to be a good character
But that's what people liked about Adventure (and Tamers to some extent). The characters grew up and changed from their experiences

>>13989914
*got

>>13989916
>The characters grew up and changed from their experiences

For one episode until they reverted back to being morons until the next power up was needed. I'll take a good but boring character over forced drama used to fuel a power boost.

>>13989922
>For one episode until they reverted back to being morons until the next power up was needed.
This literally never happened except with Yamato. Every time the characters figured something out about themselves, it stayed with them.

>>13989950
Yamato
Taichi
Jou

And now it's all happening again in Tri so the other 6 get Ultimates and so Omegamon goes super duper ultimate in the last movie.

>>13984256
>>13984281
>>13984289
>>13986111
It's a 6 part movie, do you want everything spoon feed to you? If the movies were more battle oriented you would complain there for no character development or interaction and plot development. There is no pleasing you people.

>>13989957
The issues the kids face in Tri are completely different than the ones in Adventure. If anything they are expansions. Jou made the decision of what to do with his life and now in Tri he's suffering, or at least suffered, the reality of going on that path but not neglecting his friends and Gomamon

>>13989914
No, he perm dies in all save VT and XW. Adventures is cheating though.

And in XW you might not die permanently, but only if someone wishes you back.

>>13990075
I think you are missing the point.
That anon pressed "killed" as in he did get killed at some point, the "came back to life or died permanently" part doesn't matter.

>>13990124
Oh I see then.

>>13989701
CHRIST! That's some IBO tier animation quality.

>>13989979
>>13990008
Would've prefer they not force awful development drama by having characters pretending to be retards like Taichi and Joe.

>>13990575
Joe wasn't acting like a retard, or a coward. The Ogremon situation wasn't so serious that it needed everyone to be there. It seemed like be and Mimi were being attacked for being individuals.

>>13990879
I don't see why he'll have a dilemma, these incidents only occurs once every few years, it doesn't really derail his life that much as he made it out to be and really, it's their digimons whose actually doing the fightings.

>>13989407
Leomon was in on it he'll come back as Bancho Leomon.

>>13991069
Joe had to study to improve his grades so that they were good enough to get into university. Him skipping out would cause the grades to plummet and ruin his chances of getting a good future.

Joe doesn't seem like the problem, it's just that the writers handled his drama very poorly.

>>13990567
Let's not say things we can't take back, anon. It would be IBO quality if Lilymon slid up out of the flower in the static pose at the end and just held there.

>>13990567
No it actually has frames of animation.

So, if you hypothetically wanted to watch enough 02 to hit the relevant plot points, but not enough to want to commit suicide at the end, what episodes would you watch?

>>13991773
Up to episode 24.

>>13991773
Just the Kaiser and Demon Invasion arc. Then skip right to the last few episodes.

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>>13991773
It looks like the entire thing is relevant, so just power through it. Honestly 02 is never suicide-inducingly bad, it's not Time Hunters. It's just almost never actually good either.

There's some things it's easier to catch now, though, like that time they wrote a Zubat episode and changed the names of the characters.

>>13991821
Zubat?

>>13991984
Yep

>>13991987
But that picture is an Igamon.

>>13984289
>Tamers was really good

Ahahahahaha. I thought we invaded /m/ to avoid /a/ tier stuff like this?

>>13987193
>- The female detective smiled very briefly when the cat became evil. Given that it's also her fault Ken go to it, maybe she's in on it?

Take her actions with Koushiro in the context that luring him to the school festival left the Digimon alone(where she wanted to go, also alone) and lead directly to everything that happened.

Very well played on her part.

>>13989612
>I doubt he is the real Ken.

Huckmon being there makes me suspicious, but for now i'll say it is.

The real problem was that Imperialdramon. It's colors were off and it dies far too easily. The Kaiser is clearly not going for the kill there.

>>13992001
>But that picture is an Igamon

I love you anon-kun

>>13989749
That movie was made over 10 years ago.

>>13992177
When would the year it takes place matter? It's still a very high budget film directed by Hosada being compared to a Toei TV budget of again, a sequel with worse animation

i liked it better than chapter 1 because Joe and Mimi's character development actually makes sense.

Also I'm glad that they are no longer mary sueing the shit out of Agumon and Gabumon. Gomamon and Palmon literally fucked up Imperialdramon on their own and it was great.

I'm so fucking mad at what they did to Taichi and Yamato is only good when its about his relationship to his brother and bad the rest of the time.

>>13991069
Have you ever had a life outside of high school? Was/Is your college life that easygoing?

When you actually get a 40 hour job, you suddenly have no actual free time for yourself. You spend 8 hours of your day at your job and around 4 hours getting to it and back. You're lucky it you have any time left to yourself for the rest of the day when you consider chores, eating and sleeping. Joes life is basically like that right now.

Joe is implied to be taking tests all the fucking time since the first movie. Its very clear that he's under the pressure of some sort of hard scholl when compared to the other kids. He's also the oldest meaning he's the one that has to deal with becoming a grownup and an acceptable member of society.

It doesn't help that his personality is pretty much built around him being antisocial. This was pretty much character development he needed from the get go.

>>13989979
>It's a 6 part movie, do you want everything spoon feed to you?

Yes they do. You're on /m/. People here only really have the mental maturity to deal with shows like tokusatsu which are aimed at literal 5 year olds. So everything needs to be answered at the end of the episode and all the themes about growing up is lost on them.

It's fucking Toei, I know it's not perfect but damn people get really shitty and whiny about it.

>>13992067
Not gonna lie, I thought Female detective was being bro tier and helping Koushiro win the Mimi bowl by sending those pics.

>>13994613
Did Mimi get character development? She was so based in this movie that I didn't notice any change at all.

>>13994631
Another thing to add that we especially can't identify as well with is that the test-taking in Japan, especially for becoming a doctor, is MONSTROUS. The pressure is absolutely insane for trying to get into a good school and many students in Japan struggle in the process. I mean that's the reason cram schools exist at all over there for more studying. It's not like it's not as bad in the West either but in Japan, it's like your entire reputation is on the line to do well among everybody, especially, again, for medical students.

It's completely understandable for Jou, the eldest one who was always obsessing about being the one who was the most orderly to be legitimately worried about this

>>13995882
>Did Mimi get character development? She was so based in this movie that I didn't notice any change at all.
Mimi's character development was to stay as perfect as she is and maybe just understand that not everybody thinks the way she does but keep being herself. So basically, she's a best.

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>>13995882
>She was so based in this movie that I didn't notice any change at all.
Well it is Mimi. She's always been perfect. tri. is amazingly managing to make her even more perfect.

Seriously, I don't think there's been a single complaint about her in either part of tri. so far. She's practically had universal appreciation.

>>13995919
>maybe just understand that not everybody thinks the way she does but keep being herself.
That's a good way of putting it.

>>13994631
>>13995919
I thought that Joe was being reasonable in choosing to improve his grades and thinking about the future, but the movie was being heavy handed about the becoming adult part.

>>13995999
That's always been part of Jou's character. During Adventure, he was always saying how he was the one who had to take care of everyone since he was the oldest and wanted to grow up the fastest, and how he felt the others were his responsibility because of it (I think this might have been downplayed in the dub though. I'm not 100% sure). This was just an extension of that but toward his future instead of the other kids

>>13991069
Asian parents.

Hey it's 2 minutes till end of ep and Leomon's alive. This is looking up for him.

STAB

SON OF A BITCH

>>13996645
That was great.

It's as if the writers forgot to include the obligatory Leomon death scene and just stuck it in there.

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>>13991821
I wonder how bad it is that I love Hawkmon, all his evolutions, and even Miyako/Yolei.

>>13996012
>I think this might have been downplayed in the dub though. I'm not 100% sure

No, it's pretty intact in the dub.

>>13996662
If by great you mean "a dumbass slasher movie stunt" than yes, yes it was.

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>>13996793
It's not bad at all. I love Silphymon and Valkyriemon. They just put Valkyriemon in Cyber Sleuth

>>13997370
>Valkyriemon

His special is pretty cool looking.

>>13995882
>Not gonna lie, I thought Female detective was being bro tier and helping Koushiro win the Mimi bowl by sending those pics.

She only did that to lure him to the school to have all the Digidestined in one place.

>>13996793
>yfw Hawkman doesn't have a pure evolution line

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>>13997444
Always imagined this, if not heading into Silphymon and into >>13997370

>>13997456
Griffomon was my favourite Digimon when I was a kid, but I imagined him evolving from Penguinmon>Kiwimon>Delumon

Also didn't say a single word in this movie. Just stood there silent.

Like they couldn't decide if they wanted to bring Romi Park back or stick with the recasting at the chance of making people mad.

>>13997588
You mean Ken? If I've watched enough anime, and I've certainly watched enough anime, whenever they do something like that with a returning character, it's to make the audience wonder if it's actually the genuine article, something I doubt

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>>13997588

They changed almost all of the original cast's voice actors why would they care now? AIM even doesn't play Mimi anymore.

>>13997601
He was obviously a copy. He never left that weird digital distortion area.

I really don't see how this needed to be an 8 part movie. Animation isn't even that great, just subpar at best.

>>13997832
Because it's actually a 24 episode series and was supposed to release as that, but turned to movies because shekels

>>13997832
It's actually six movies.

>>13984163
This entire series kills me. It's clearly written for the adults now who watched it as kids. Why the fuck then does it have the development and writing of a show for 7 year-olds? Everything that is an issue is downplayed and treated like it's not really a problem. Like in the first movie it's Taichi's unwillingness to fight because of possible real world damage. But then everyone says it will be much worse if they don't fight while taichi doesn't properly have a counter argument to flesh out his problem so he looks wrong in the process, and then his problem is "resolved" by him fighting and managing to fuck up the city anyway.

Same thing happens with Jou. Jou is clearly thinking about growing up and doesn't like the idea of being a "chosen child (erabashi kodomo)" which is fitting since he's becoming an adult. His problem is actually fairly nuanced, but we see that it negatively affects his relationship with his friends even though he's pretty much justified in all he does (Mimi is given the okay for fighting by everyone but koushiro but pretty much only Taichi is okay with Jou not coming). He gets in a fight with Gomamon and the tension is getting high, but then the fight happens and he helps out like it was an easy choice. Suddenly all the tension is lost because they simply needed things to work out. A very children's show type solution again.

The contrast of older humans with still childlike digimon is not touched on. They goof off and do nothing until needed.. They attract kids by looking super cool or cute, but they aren't really fleshed out characters.

Then we have the children's show trappings, like the toei-typical use of limited animation and stock footage. But this is aimed at adults. Did we really need the poorly animated stock footage evolutions? The fight scenes were uninvolved random attacks at the screen which while emulating the style of the original very well, is not something you should really want to emulate to begin with.

>>13998407
All your questions can be answered with "this is still Digimon overall". It's never going to be an explicitly mature franchise. I mean they are still using Tri to sell new versions of children's toys.

You're thinking this is supposed to be something like Kamen Rider the First when it's more like Sailor Moon Crystal. It's aimed at older fans in the nostalgic sense, not the writing sense.

Remember, Toei's previous attempt at aiming Digimon to an older audience was Savers

>>13997446
I hate ghis fedora tipping faggot so much now.

>>13995999
>>13996012

Joe is like...the best written character, so I'm happy that they decided to give him character development on this one. I also feel like his relationship with his digimon is the most genuine out of all the characters.

Better than Taichi/Yamato mary sue shit in part 1 if anything.

>>13998407
Regarding Joe and the way you say he "resolved" things, I don't fully agree.

Joe wanted to avoid fighting and focus on becoming an adult but he didn't want to lose Gomamon either. This culminates when Gomamon runs away and decides that he wants to fight, Kairi then reminds him that he forgot his real reason for fighting, which was Gomamon. THEN everything gets resolved. Its actually pretty okay writing IMO, since its like a whole realizing you forgot whats important kind of thing.

I agree on the Taichi thing though, that was fucking retarded.

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>>13999000
>Joe is like...the best written character, so I'm happy that they decided to give him character development on this one. I also feel like his relationship with his digimon is the most genuine out of all the characters.

>>13999021
>Its actually pretty okay writing IMO
Then you don't know shit about writing.

>>13984163
Waste of time. Ep 5 was filler. Eps 6 & 7 was boring drama. Only Ep 8 was any good, and that was only with the last 15 minutes. The rest of the episode was everything everybody expected since seeing the kid + partner.

>>13986218
I didn't know that. Shit.

>>13999045
They are "the odd couple" of digimon

Gomomon is like the kramer of digimon

>the digimon have no personalities
>there's a ton of filler
>why are the kids whining when they should focus on the problem at hand?
>we don't even know why all this is happening

So... It's exactly like Digimon Adventure

>>13999383
This is true. At least Gomamon has a personality beyond IM HUNGERY

>>13999387
They focused on survival and getting back home.

>>13999052
I guess I should listen to some random anon in 4chan. I'm sure he's certified in what qualifies as good writing.

>>13999307
Huh, but there have only been 2 movies? Hell the series is a three part movie trilogy, how can you be watching episode 5? Unless you are going by the format they are using to bring it out of Japan. In that case I can see why your complaining, after all, the pacing is not made for episodic formats. Hell the breaks between episodes don't always a line.

The movie would've being better had it focused on Jou and Mimi's problems and not in how kawaii the OC donut steel characters are.

>>13999472
>three part movie trilogy
Six, rather. The movie series' length is more akin to Towa no Quon and The Garden of Sinners.

>>13999000
>Joe is like...the best written character
But that's Mimi.

>>13999574
>MUH WAIFU
Kill yourself

>>13999584
I'm not sure how that comment makes her my waifu.

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>>13999574
>You're really selfish and annoying
>Damn straight
>well written

>>13989654
It really took me off guard. I opened the game and kirito was staring me in the face

Well there's still 4 movies to go. Hopefully things will really pick up better. Othewise, Tri might end up being worse than 02.

Why does Joe have the Crest of Reliability if he fucking chickens out and pisses off to do other shit every chance he gets?

What if the cause of the corruption was myotismon all along

>>14000388
Because his crest is sincerity.

>>14000421
I thought Mimi's crest was sincerity :v

>>14000460
Purity. Because she is best girl.

>>14000471
Are you saying that the Dub and the Wiki Lied to me?!?!

>>13999387
>the digimon have no personalities
Gomamon seems to have a lot of personality

>>14000481
Yes

>>14000512
This. Even Tailmon had a personality. Until she became Hikari's partner.

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>>14000481
You really should've switched to Wikimon by now.

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You people seem the more knowledgeable about Toku kind of guys.
Is Raremon's evolution into EXTyrannomon homaging something, or is it just the same slimy body in a puppet logic as Monzaemon and Etemon?

As far as Leomon being forever destroyed because he died in the real world.

While that's true, that's a minor plot point from a one off 02 episode that I'm not really sure the mostly new staff would even remember.

>>13999045
HOROBI NO

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>>14000989
>Is Raremon's evolution into EXTyrannomon homaging something
Barney?

>>13998989
But is the best REMOVE DARKNESS character we have in Adventure, anon.

>>14001833
Well Barney is a suit monster.

>>14001833
It might be something similar to Numemon becoming Monzaemon via entering a plush suit thing.

You know, the whole "something cute and cuddly is actually a nasty sludge-thing in a fur suit.

>>13997814
HHHNNNNGGGGG !!!!

>>13998407
>Same thing happens with Jou. Jou is clearly thinking about growing up and doesn't like the idea of being a "chosen child (erabashi kodomo)" which is fitting since he's becoming an adult.

See, this is exactly why I hate plots like this in fiction: There is no true comparison for it in real life, no matter how much someone may relate to it. You see the allegory, but you can't see the situation at face value because lives don't depend on whether you study for a test instead of fighting giant monsters.

Much like Taichi's arc in the first movie, it's less about what the "right" answer is and more about riding out a tough situation as best as you can, which is probably the most adult solution you can portray with this kind of series.

>>14002976
Excet Jou makes it quite clear that he doesn't want to fight because he has no real reason to, until he realizes that Gomamon wants to fight and will continously be put him, someone he cares about, in danger.

It was within reason.

>>14003220
Jou also seemed upset about their lack of choice.

>>14003240
I definitely thought he was mostly angry at the lack of choice. Who has the right to pick these kids and throw them into a world full of monsters?
Well, that's done, oh wait, here's a new threat, and again. Only you can deal with it because "destiny" said so.
I won't argue about necessity, but he has the right to be angry.

>>14003527
Yeah thing is Jou's got a good point, but I think that the set ending forces the story to not not go in depth with their points lest the ending be unhappy.

>>13999597
Did the writers seriously think that generic high school girls were enough to shut down best girl?

>>14003654
She didn't even know that they wouldn't like it, so it was a critical effect. She was thinking that they would love it until directly told otherwise.

>>14003672
You know how significant it was when she loses the confidence to even wear the cheerleader outfit.

Mimi without her confidence is like Koushiro without his laptop: unthinkable.

>>14003654
>Mimi's face when girls shut her down
My fucking heart

>>14004354
The moment she realised her own good intentions weren't good for everyone.

>>14003672
>>14004354
Those girls just got lucky that this was a kids show. Calling best girl who's been to America a jikochu is practically asking to get punched in the face in real life.

>>14004628
But everyone else didn't really come up with a better solution.

>>14005064
>Calling best girl who's been to America a jikochu is practically asking to get punched in the face in real life.
And it's not like Mimi would resist doing that either.

>But everyone else didn't really come up with a better solution.
True,

Once she accepted her jikochuu status and could not give a single fuck what others say about her, she regained her confidence and composure and brought the house down with the Dater's cafe.

>>14005079

What was up with jikochuu? Even the sub didn't even try to translate that. Is it like a magic Japanese world that can't be translated or something?

Is it the next Ne Plus Ultra?

>>14005087
http://cotoacademy.com/blog/japanese-study/japanese-slang-jikochuu-%E8%87%AA%E5%B7%B1%E4%B8%AD/

It's a slang term.

I've seen suggestions it could have been changed to something like "egocentric" so it looked better.

got to episode 2 cant get forward, I got bored it has almost everything that its wrong with modern anime, I thougth they were going to flesh out the premise from the previous part.

but there will be beach episode rigth?

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>>14005087
Did you miss the part where Mimi asked what the word meant and it being explained?

If the word was translated to something else, like "egocentric," it would've made Mimi look like her dumb dub self.

>>14006887
There's no beach episode as of this typing. There was a hot springs episodes, but none of the girls got naked or her obscured.

Would Part II be improved if it was just Mimi and Joe?

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>>14007189
>Would Part II be improved if it was just Mimi and Joe?
Certainly.

>>14006945
That girl on the left looks a dark haired Sora.

>>14007952
Her dub name would be Skyler then.

>>14007961
I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

>>13989666

Must've been brief as fuck (or in season 2, which I have yet to see), 'cause I more or less marathoned that, and didn't see him anywhere.

>>13989701
>>13990567

Don't care, would still lovingly cuddle.

>>13986935
They very obviously show that the things in that dark portal were being projected by Hackmon at the end of the fight.