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>I really really hope she lives edition

DEAD OR ALIVE
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27523029
AND GO

http://pastebin.com/Mym5hVwH
Poll with best of's. You can edit your responses.
Assuming streamfag never comes back to us, anyone else wanna do it?
My connection is really bad.

Old because it matters so much to some of you >>13449462
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We don't need a 24/7 thread. We didn't need the previous two threads or the two that will follow the thread after this one.
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>>13461657
Let's just enjoy this happy time because it's going to be so brief. When the new season ends Fafner will just fade back into the mist in terms of discussion so for now we can just talk about it as much as we like
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So, any speculation as for why is the Zero Fafner, Mk. Nicth and one of the NUN's Fafner are the only ones shown at night during the new op?
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>>13461738
>When the new season ends Fafner will just fade back into the mist in terms of discussion so for now we can just talk about it as much as we like
Not to mention presumably getting depressed over future plot developments, right?
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>>13461657
Seeing as those threads do end up reaching the limit I don't see why we shouldn't make new ones.

Just let us discuss fafner now that it's still relevant.
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>>13461625
at this point I'm not even sure if Seri dying would be the most suffering for her.
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>>13461822
No, probably the biggest amount of suffering for Seri would be Orihime dying

Which is why Seri will sacrifice herself so that Orihime can have a normal lifespan somehow
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>>13461940
It fits well with the "mother-daughter" theme going on with them. After all, the most scary thing for a parent is their child dying.

Seri is so dead that it hurts.
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>>13461625
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27523029
Hell fucking yeah
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>>13461625
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27523029
I just noticed, this song also has call backs to Shangri-la, thats really cool
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>>13461822
She still doesn't know about Hiroto.
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>>13461625
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27523029
>Exist and Shangri-La elements
How can one song be so fucking based?
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inb4 space
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>>13461625
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27523029
is there any more based band for anime music?
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>>13462214
She will never learn about it. Get ready for a even more guilty over it Orihime.
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Seri seems to be having dreams just like Kazuki.
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>Post yfw the big insert song for the 23rd or so episode is DOA but then it morphs into Shangri-La

It happens or we RIOT
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>>13462519
>23rd
>not 26th
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>>13462534
Yeah, you don't introduce the big ass insert song in the finale.

I don't care if it's 26th though, as long as it happens.
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Looks like Pixiv is liking the coats.
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Ok anon, come up with a scenario of maximum suffering that results in Seri's death.
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>>13462582
Executed
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>>13462582
NUNs attacking with mass-produced Funfs. Black box technology from replicating the original Funf implants portions of Hiroto's personality into them.

Also, throw in some Orihime suffering in there for good measure.
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>>13462579
I don't blame them, I would buy them in a heartbeat if they ever release them, and I live in a city were "cold" is 28° C
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>Tatsumiya nowhere to be seen
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>Sui is Ono Kensho

Wow, how did I not hear that all this time?
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>>13462617
It's above them.
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Damn that full DEAD OR ALIVE is amazing. ED leak when?
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>>13462624
My dumb ex girlfriend, who hates mecha, asked me when Fafner was about to start airing "Do I need anything to watch the new season of Fafner? I want to see it because Ono Kensho will voice a character." Stupid girl.
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>>13462648
This is the same as what the general guy was saying.
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>>13462639
Your dub-ex oughtta be hooked on mecha now
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>>13462582
Seri learns of Hiroto's death, an that not only did Orihime know what happened, she decided to keep it from most of the islanders so they wouldn't end up in despair (in reality, she didn't want to see Seri suffer, and had no idea of how to go about it). As a bonus, she let's it slip that she knew Canon's power would end up killing her.

Seri, in tears, tells Orihime that she's definitely not Tsubaki. Tsubaki had a heart.

Orihime ends up depressed over this, the island reflecting her anguish.

Somehow, Seri ends up in a situation where her power could come in handy, but there's a high chance she'll die in the process. Orihime tries to talk her out of it, and apologizes for the way she's acted. Seri forgives her but still goes through with it.

Before dying, Seri looks at the island, saying it's beautiful.
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>>13462688
Somehow I doubt it, not that I care. I don't even remember what I answered her.
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>>13462648
>>13462661
Now now, I assume the difference is that Canon's Model assuages the assimilation phenomenon and lets you live your natural life span while Ashoka makes you it's bitch forever. I'm worried that whatever scheme Ashoka has cooked up might force anyone's who accepted to turn on our boys
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>>13462749
I have a feeling Ashoka infected Orihime with the idea when Emery spoke to Orihime, but they might come to different conclusions depending on how she took it.
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>>13462624
Huh I never realize it too. No wonder Sui kept on going full suffering. All this healing in the latest episodes is just a precursor to more suffering for him I wager
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Orihime > you're favorite core
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The episode had some really beautiful imagery.
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>>13462774
Bets on Orihime's survival?
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>>13462772
So when does Rina get kidnapped by an alternate version of himself on a Fafner riding a motorcycle that lives in a dimension where Festum own 99% of the dimensions wealth and Humans only get 1%.
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>>13462786
>>13462783
I found this part so fucking beautiful
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>>13462805
That part with the small Festum running through the forest was cute.
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>>13462815
>You will never ride a Festum like a horse in a wild west style chase
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>>13462781
A Festum falls in love with a girl.

Unable to confess, he is gifted by a Mir ex machina with the girl's synergetic code number. Never minding the strange pattern, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she is there.

But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the Festum's own divergent self, who too is blissfully unaware of her SDP.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to survive the assimilations of their other selves. While the two chase their respective counterparts, SUFFERING ensues as they begin to fall in despair with each other instead and question the NATURE of HOPE.


;_;
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>>13462768
>>13462749
Wait remind me again, who is Ashoka?
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>>13462838
>what
The Srinigar Mir
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>>13462821
Fuck you
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>>13462821
Go back to being a mindless drone Kurusu.
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>>13462821
Return to nothingness, Festum.
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>>13462841
Ohhhh, no wonder I couldn't place a face on the name.
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>>13462846
>A Festum falls in love with the sky
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why are they helping muslims?
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>>13462885
What Muslims?
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>>13462756
Here you go
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>>13462898
I think the festum is trying to make a joke at how the Exodus is muslimic in origin, but I don't think he quite grasp human humor yet, please forgive him. He should be perfectly human after a few more assimilation.
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>>13462964
"He"? Didn't you mean "We", you aren't fooling anyone you beautiful golden abomination!
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>>13462964
Srinigar is in fucking India 'm aware they have Muslims too, and the big biblical Exodus predates the foundation of Islam.

Festum a shit. This is why we need someone like Hester to help make Earth Great Again.
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>>13462990
I mean, Hester DID build a wall.
And those Festum behind the wall DO look pretty happy behind that wall...so maybe that's the right idea.
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>>13462990
You know what Fafner needs? a Muruta Azrael. Just picture how much shit that bastard would wreck in this universe.
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>>13463000
Trips confirm coordinators BTFO
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The other thread reminded me, but I've been meaning to ask /faf/ this for a while, but how do you guys like m3? I heard it's pretty similar in many ways, especially when we trove on suffering here.
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>>13463011
I liked it a lot, but beyond suffering and that both are character driven, they don't really share many similarities.
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>>13463000
>>13463008
OH SUCK IT ASSIMILATION FAGS
Natural or bust.

Also they did sorta have one, but he got smashed by Nicht.
>>13463011
It's kinda weird, maybe a little too slow at times, but it's a fairly enjoyable watch.

The "suffering" never really came through for me, but the atmosphere is really drab. Also Shitlite 3DCG
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>>13463011
I really didn't like it, but I never really paid attention. Maybe deserves a rewatch.
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>>13463026
Nicth really needs to stop that habit of crushing blonde assholes.
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>>13462990
Hester a shit, vote Kurusu for NUNS chairman next election.
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>>13463069
>get a load a this Sphinx, Cam
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>>13463069
What will Kurusu do for me, what plans or goals does he have in mind besides watching the Sky?

Meanwhile not only does Hester have a plan, she has a triple plan. Vote Hester!
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>The New United Nations has declared that the Region of /faf/ to be declared ROE Alpha.

>I repeat: The New United Nations has declared that the Region of /faf/ to be declared ROE Alpha.

Get ready to be nuked, bitches.
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>>13463100
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Please stop RPing everyone.
It leads to degeneracy. Let's wait quietly for the new episode
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>>13463096
Hester has Nothung to offer us.
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So, I think we can infer from the chest piece opening on the Einherjar Models when they use their SDP and Mimika's SDP barrier being powered up in the OP that the Einherjars improve the SDPs. That leads to the question of how each SDP powers up. What do people think powered up versions of say Sakura or Sui's abilities would do?
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>>13463181
>Sakura
More clones.
>Sui
Able to pull more stuff to him or pull bigger things.
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Only fanart of Ai I could find is her being what appears to be her getting raped by a Festum
Not okay, Japan.
>>13463181
>>13463202
It'd be pretty sweet if Sui could pull Festum inside other Festum.
>>Sakura
>More clones.
Bigger clones, I hope.
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>>13463202
I want Sui to pull my bigger things
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If Sui's SDP is to pull stuff toward him, how did he teleport his swords into the Festum?
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>>13463346
I think Sui's SDP is like the opposite of Rio's. He teleports faraway things closer into a set radius with himself as the nucleus. So basically if he is near enough to a festum he can teleport anything into the festum
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>>13463346
He flew really quickly in a circle around it, and then pulled when he was opposite.
As for how the Luger Lances activated, I dunno. Don't think we've seen remote activation before.

>tl;dr
It just werks!
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>Final battle takes place near the Island
>Canon is dead, but FutureCanon is there
>Some Festum does the line

>"I was once there", looking at the island
>but "Now I'm here"
>Eat this!

How hype would that be?
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Guys, guys

Post your face when

Gekijouban Soukyuu no Fafner: Be Invoked
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>>13463896
Fafner Rebellion
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>>13463896
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>>13463908
Please Mir no
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>>13463896
Part of me is terrified/hopeful that they might announce a movie at the end of Exodus like people have been saying.

>End the series on some kind of fucking giant horrifying cliffhanger like the first cour
>Announce a movie for like 2018
>MERRY FUCKING CHRISTMAS

Please be merciful Xebec.
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>>13463933
>2018
You mean 2020
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>>13463933
I think the island gets tang'd, so Kazuki and some bros have to take over the ship for the movie. Captain Kenji, bridge bunny Sakura, some main pilots and Seri as the understanding character.
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Wow, I just realized that the "Trust me, trust you" part of Dead or Alive was from Soukyuu.
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>>13463951
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

Seriously the only anime track I've not liked of hers was the K s1 OP
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>>13463952
What is wrong with it?
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>>13463960
Sounds lazy. The cadence is off putting as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bikika_1UVA
I dunno why it just bothers me
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>>13463969
It is just a different type of song for a very different anime.
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>>13463181
Wasn't Mimika's SDP that twisting ability? Just like the Festum that killed Mamoru.

In which case that huge barrier from the OP might just be a sign of how crazy-powerful the Einherjar units are.
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>>13463011
It's a Okada series so the answer is obvious the melodrama is too fucking forced. Okada can't write an antagonist for shit that isn't stark raving batshit insane to a comical level.

They'd probably be a much better writer if they studied people once in a while.
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>>13463971
Yeah, I like K, but even it's current OP isn't groovin with me either.
>>13463987
The twisting is one part of it, I think more specifically it's that she has the ability to influence energy fields. Seems like the strongest SDP in terms of versatility and power, to me at least.
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>>13464000
>stark raving batshit insane
Mikage wasn't raving though.
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>>13463987
Watching S1, that twisting ability looks like some kind of counter ability. You have to get attacked by your target first before you can use it on your target
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>>13462696
This will happen
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>>13462821
>that she is there
nice one
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>>13462820
Imagine the joy of the assimilation as you ride it
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>>13463933
What's even worse is that everyone outside of nipland will have to wait an extra year for it to become available.
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>>13464081
Actually it'd probably be closer to half a year plus the time for fansubs. Blu-ray releases on average generally take about 6 month Still too long a wait though
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>>13462696
>Before dying, Seri looks at the island, saying it's beautiful.
Anyone notice the series started with people calling the festum beautiful, and ends with people saying it about the island?
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>>13464096
Perfect, I can marathon all 6 digimon movies and it at the same time!!
Kill me now anons.
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Can someone please tell me what time does the livestream of Exodus start in JP time? I don't have work tomorrow, so that means I can stay up late to watch my favourite chinese cartoons
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>>13464258
http://anichart.net/airing

It should be airing in about five hours, at least. 2:25 JST.
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>>13464262
>http://anichart.net/airing
Thanks anon
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>>13464152
At least you'll be able to watch the entire J9 franchise including Jinraiger by then (assuming whether or not Starseeker is waiting for Crinn to come back).
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What's the best release for the first season of Exodus? Are the Blu-rays out yet?
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>>13464304
Best release is Philosophy Raws, but they put a decent amount of strain on your system, get the FLSnow ones if you're unsure. BDs are up all the way though Exodus 13, after that HS, or that other one that just cropped up.

BDs have retimed subs through 13, someone maybe has the mega link, for anon here?
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>>13464319

https://mega.nz/#F!QMdWgZCR!kONzKxaESiY6PuCOZD9scQ
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OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE, NO.
GOD
FUCKING
DAMMIT
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>>13464408
Maybe if they twist it back the other way Mamoru will get better?
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>>13464412
Literally me right now.
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>>13464412
Well he certainly can't get any worse at this point,
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>>13464408
Reminder the last thing Mamoru thought of was his two best friends happy together
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>>13464440
Thinking of others in Fafner is a bigger death flag than usual. That's why most of the couples die.
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So, if they can asspull the revival of people that were assimilated, who would you want to to return from nothingness?
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>>13464456
Nobody. As much as I love Fafner I'd shut it off in an instant if something like this happened.
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>>13464456

Best rack girl
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Say, has anyone ever bothered listing out the meanings of all the names of people in Fafner?
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>>13464319
>>13464326
Thanks. Other than extending episode 1, is ther anything else the BD release changed from the TV version?
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>>13464440
>his full name literally means "A small shield that protects"
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>>13464475
Not to my knowledge
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>>13464470
Yeah, revive the girl that would break the second she learns that the love of her life killed himself after she was assimilated.
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>>13464488
>Yeah, revive the girl that would break the second she learns that the love of her life killed himself after she was assimilated.
Do you even suffering?
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>>13464492
Fafner, the series that can make a happy thing bad in some twisted way. The more time I expend here, the more I'm convinced that we're a bunch of masochists.
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>>13464456
There really isn't that many people they could bring back.
Except for the people in RoL, Rina and Akira's parents, Yukie and some randoms everyone died non-assimilation deaths.
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>>13464472
Only for Kurusu Misao, because his festum given name gives some insight into the festum hivemind. The others doesn't really mean anything.
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>>13464508
>The others doesn't really mean anything.
newfaggot detected
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>>13464508
Shouko and Momoru's name foreshadow the way they would die: "Soaring the Skies" and "Protecting your friends". Besides that and Misao's name, I'm not aware of other meaningful name.
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>>13464513
I meant meaningful plotwise. Most of them are random stuff like 蔵前 果林 which is Hiding/ Front Hidden fruit forest
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Well, Canon's first name ended up fitting her SDP for it's meaning
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>>13464515
Wall (because he protects everyone) + Ikki as in ikkitousen (phrase meaning a single warrior strong enough to take on a thousand enemies)

Everyone's Fortress + Ruler of Warriors

>>13464522
蔵の前に果てる
"Die before the hangar"
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>>13464535
Kanji for Kazuki can also mean "one rider"
Guess who is he riding
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>>13464535
>蔵の前に果てる
>"Die before the hangar"

Poor, poor Kuramae.
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Small Shield + Protect
Look Far + True Arrow

Kouyou's is wordplay which I can't be bothered to explain, anyway most of this shit is on the wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/fafner/?%BD%D5%C6%FC%B0%E6%B9%C3%CD%CE
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日野 道生
So is Michio's name suppose to be ironic? I'm not sure to translate it to "The road to living" or "Birth of the path"
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>Masaoka Ryou
>Grave of warriors + Neighbour

>Ikoma Yumi
>生駒 = 他人を生かす駒 = a chesspiece used to let others live + save future
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>>13464568
How subtle.
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>>13464463
They did revive Soushi in H&E, sorta.
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>>13464492
Was that ever confirmed or it's just your fanfiction
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>>13464651
Huh?
Did you quote the wrong person?
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>>13464661
Yes I did, meant for the person you replied to
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>>13464488
>love of her life
No
Source: Fafner memorial book
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>>13464727
Let's just take it that she loved him ok, no need to escalate the suffering of dead people.
What did the Fafner memorial book say anyway, are there scans of it?
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>>13464567
Living on the path under the sun (= under the real sky = outside the island)
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Kenji: Close range + sword
Sakura: Foundation stone (for Kenji and Mamoru) + Sakura (as if that wasn't obvious from the imagery in the show itself)
Shouko: FRY DA SKY

Tsubaki: Tsubaki is an alternate reading of 乙姫 = Otohime of the dragon palace (Ryuuguu-jou where Ryuuguu is written the same as Tatsumiya)
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>>13464738
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>Hino Miwa
>Beautiful wings of the sun

>Wings
>Sun

I have a bad feeling about this
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>>13464777
"Wants to help"?
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>Yumiko
>Bow because Maya is an arrow

>Chizuru
>Thousand cranes
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thousand_origami_cranes
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>>13464799
Nah see Miwa's going to be fine.
Because the Fafner sequel that takes place 6-8 years after Exodus needs her and Emery alive to become pilots.

Because once the homo batteries of Soushi and Kazuki run out they're going to replace them with Lesbians
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>>13464759
Sakura's name is interesting. Instead of using the cherry blossom kanji (桜) her name is written with the kanji 咲良, "bloom, good".
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FAFNER EP 19 STARTING IN 5 MINUTES, IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS FUCK OFF UNTIL THE SUBS ARE OUT
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>>13465103
Also apparently next week will be 30minutes later than usual
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>>13465103
>>13465123
Thanks anons, I'll be outof here for a while. See ya after the shit storm
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>>13465187
THIS IS WHAT CROSS FIT DOES TO YOUR LEGS
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>>13465195
DOUBLE THE L PLANS, DOUBLE THE DEATHS. WHEN WILL YOU GUYS LEARN!!

Apparently they are abandoning the main island.
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>>13465195
>Abandoning the mainland

FUCK

WHY WAS I RIGHT

Oh god we're going to get a scene of the mainland being destroyed.
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>>13465209
What happened? Why did the battle suddenly stop
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>>13465218
Because Walker has them in the palm of it's hand.
It doesn't need to keep attacking. It's just going to slowly whittle them down now that they can't escape.

>>13465224
Fuck! And so the island's ability to mitigate the radiation poisoning most of the adults have is gone is failing again.
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>>13465246
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>>13465230
Are they getting married?
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>>13465255
KITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>13465255
KOUYO IS BACK BITCHES.
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>>13465255
MFW
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>>13465255
GIVE BACK SHOKO!!!!!!
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>>13465263
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KOUYO IS IN THE ED WEARING THE COATS TOO. Fuck this episode is too hype
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>>13465254
If they are then their life expectancy is officially fucked

>>13465255
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>13465277
Oh wow
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>>13465274
>>13465277
Which probably means Canon will be getting a snazzy coat too.

Right?
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>>13465277

Canon is going to be added in next!

HYPE!!!
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Next episode title is "Return of the Warrior" Kouyo is back to kickass and take names.
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>>13465291
Thank you based god.
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Fafner really never fails to make us hype as all fuck, goddamn
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>>13465272
Kenji and Sakura married. Deathflags off the roof.

BUT KOYO. WELCOME HOME.
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>>13465320
Kouyo will protect his friends on the island while Kazuki and Soushi are out
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>>13465246
I honestly thought Sui was a goner then and there, right after the debut of his new model too. Thank god for based festumbro Kouyo saving the day. Btw I noticed Kouyo seem to have reverse assimilation abilities like Kazuki.
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>Two boats diverging from the main land to escape

Koyo will save one.
Canon will save the other.

Also did anyone pick up the hat yet this episode?
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>>13465287
>>13465288
Nah it'll be Kurusu
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>>13465330
Every festum has, they just don't have a need to use it on anyone, Kurusu also used it on KAzuki and Soushi in the movie
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>>13465336
.....pretty plausible I'll give you that, considering Fafner's homo track record.
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>>13465287
I saw one Nip pointing out that someone can be placed on Soushi's right. Expect an addition.
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>>13465336
>Kurusu is going to use the Dreizehn for himself
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>>13465336

It's raining men!

I think it'll be Canon though going on her Fafner returning in that battle shot in the ending. Although I could see Kurusu being in the end shot as well to bring it to 5.
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He is back!
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>considering Fafner's homo track record.
Another thing to add to that homo record, Akira was talking to Hiroto this episode. Akira says he was talking to him via crossing (like how Kazuki talk to Soushi in the movie), but Jonathan says his crossing with Hiroto already ended, so I'm not sure if Akira is going crazy due to his homolust or if they really are in some special crossing.
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>>13465379
Alternatively the Gordian crystal could somehow be allowing the crossing to occur
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>>13465379
Why would Jonathan even know or understand the crossing of island fafners? Its more probably that Akira is in a similar state Kazuki was in the movie
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>>13465379
Well, it might just be TWIN MAGIC that's letting Akira pick up on whatever ability to communicate that Rina has.

Like Hiroto used Rina as a pay phone to get the call through
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>>13465394
Most likely. Kenji heard Canon's voice too right be fore Kouyo showed up, so maybe people could talk to the dead via crossing now.
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I am real happy!
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>>13465434
What's it say?
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>>13465434
Wow, they bothered to change Sakura's name to Kondo Sakura in the credits. I'm kinda impressed at this slight attention to detail.
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>>13465434
TRANSLATE IT WEEB
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>>13465443
They are married!
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>>13465449
>Kondou Kenji
>Kondou Sakura
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So does having the name Kondou change the meaning of Sakura's name at all now?
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>>13465466
Not really, I guess.
'Kondou' has a tricky etymology closely connected to Heian period, akin to Endou/Andou etc.
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>>13465466
Other than meaning it'll soon be on a tombstone? No probably not.
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>>13465473
yfw Koyo's Mark Vier is actually upgraded
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>>13465481
Didn't mean to quote fuck
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I knew Kenji was going to die, but I didn't think they'd make it so obvious.

Hell probably die at about the same episode number Mamoru did.
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What do you call death flags that surpass death flags.
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>>13465497
Mizoguchi
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Ver 2 of the ED is uploaded for those who wants to see it

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27534846
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>>13465503
I can't wait for him, before the last episode:

-Promises to marry the love of his life
-Decides to retire after the whole mess is over
-Give away his good luck charm to Maya
-His favorite handgun breaks
-Starts coughing
-Promises to build a new playground for the younger kids
-Proclaims he's invincible, and will never die
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>>13465551
And in the end doesn't die and becomes the new supreme commander of Alvis
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>>13465503
Does Mizoguchi really have that many? I just rematch s1 and apart from being Maya's mentor character he doesn't really have any.
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>>13465581
He has a loving adoptive daughter, his soldiers are also like family to him and whenever there is a danger he makes sure he is the first one to go in and see if its safe
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>>13465581
From what I remember:

-Introduced in an episode where every other soldier is killed, and since this was his first appearance, it's a miracle he didn't die saving Maya.
-Knew about Yukie's bullshit
-Becomes a substitute father to Maya
-Takes the Fafner pilots to the final battle

And that's just the stuff I remember.
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Man... Rina really liked Kenji
You can see her heart break
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>>13465611
She abandoned her love for Maya, so I don't feel bad about this.
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I really like how Koyo's return is literally like Heaven and Earth

Almost assimilated pilot calling for his parents and her sister, and Koyo saving the day
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>>13465624
Good, it's not ok to be gay
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>>13465611
>Rina
>heartbreak
Nothing of value was lost
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>>13465654
Rina is a good girl, she's just tsun
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>tfw SRW UX2 - NEVER
Just think about how many awesome Fafner events could be included there
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>>13465658
Maybe if she starts toning it down, I'll give a shit, but she's been an angry bitch for all of Exodus for no reason.

Well, technically she's been an angry bitch all the way back in the first show, she was just capable of restraint back then.
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>>13465831
>implying Billy didn't deserve to be choked
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So we can assume that Yumiko is still herself right? At least that's the impression I got at the start of the episode.
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>>13465277
>>13465287
>>13465350

And seeing as it's nicht, sein, vier and reizhen in the ED it'll probably be Canon. Does this mean the three of them will become festumbro's like Kouyo?
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>>13466011
Yep, but she's a goner anyway.
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>>13465434
Smiling like a mad man here
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>>13466114
Koyo still has his body... in a way, so I guess it's not so bad.
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>>13465632
But anon this song says otherwise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j4t185wl-0
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It's not that I'm not loving the show, but I'm starting to feel that it needs to either ratchet up or conclude the journey plotline.
Perhaps that will be how Misao helps.
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I was so sure that this week Seri would bite the dust, instead we get a mariage and the return of festumbro Koyo.

Still the fact that zwölf isn't shown in the OP has me worried.... very worried
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>>13466011
Maybe, but I guess they tried to imply here that she is going to die after everything is over? idk
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>>13466176
Yeah that seemed to be the implication
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Okay what. the. fuck. just happened?

That felt like a colossal asspull to me unless they explain the shit out of that next week.
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Emery breaking up was really cute though. I mean the poor girl has been so brave through everything. She deserves a moment where she gets to cry and hug a mother figure.
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>>13466202
>fafner
>explaining
:^)

Just get used to Koyo popping up whenever things get tight.
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>>13466202
Not the first time Koyo has apeared out of nowhere to save the day.

Knowing fafner you'll probably get your explenation anyway.
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>>13464817
Soushi and Kazuki will never die.
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>>13466114
I'd say the chances of some (presumably rather limited) form of Canon return got boosted this episode.

Aside from the obvious indicator that Kenji heard her voice the return of the Vier now gives the opportunity for it to be upgraded to an Einherjar model, as seen in the ED.
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I'm still not done with the episode but what the fuck? They rebuilt L boat without a dry dock or large scale manufacturing capabilities. How? How when they've been in the water ever since Alvis was first launched.
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>constant state of crossing with Hiroto
wat

Was this the guy going crazy or is Hiroto really alive?
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>>13466231
Akira's just losing it. And fuck, I wanted to smack him so hard in this episode.
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>>13466237
>>13466237

I agree, Akira is kinda going crazy. To make it even worse for him, he torpedoed down whatever slight change he thought he had with Maya.
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>>13466226
Given the sheer size of Alvis and how little we've seen of it, I don't know how we can judge their manufacturing capabilities.
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>>13466213
There is a difference in they also made it clear in H&E Koyou allowed his Festum core to be made into a Fafner core as he wanted to become the islands guardian, then he got trashed by Misao in his temper tantrum.
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>>13466231
He's lost it completely.

I am pretty sure the Hiroto lines were taken straight out of a earlier episode.
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>>13466231
He may be crazy, but in his defence Kenji had a similar experience, so it's not out of the question.

For the little it's worth, it did kind of feel like Hiroto.
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>>13466266
We don't really know. They refitted all the Fafners in less than a month. Refitting that many machines in so little time is no small feat.
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Dat Mark Sein OST though.
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>>13466277
He teleported away.
Now he's teleported back.
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>>13465596

There's at least the one where he had apparently promised Akane Makabe to take care of Fumihiko and Kazuki.
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>Saves Maya in the ocean in S1
>Saves Akira in the ocean in HAE
>Saves Sui in the ocean in S2

Koyo confirmed for water battles.
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>>13466353
Also

>Saving Sui who pilots Mark Sechs SS

In a way, he just saved Shouko
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>>13466357
fuck, I forgot about this. I wonder if this will be discussed next episode
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>>13465379
>Johnathan
It was Walter
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>>13466328
He was just a core then. Which is weird since he ended his time in season 1 with a human body that could transform into a giant Festum form. and now he has his human body form and core form back and rebuilt his fafner from nothing. I wish they had stuck with the festum body though, that was interesting and we never got to see what he could do.
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>>13465363
I can't believe I went from disliking Koyo in S1 to cheering his appearance this episode.
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>>13466266
>>13466300
There's a big difference in building fafners on land in a facility designed for that and rebuilding a part of the ship that is 25% the size of your entire island while still in the water and without a larger facility to dock to.
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>>13466353
Don't forget he saved Soushi and Kazuki from the Mark Nicht at the end of Season 1.

People who say him saving Sui was an asspull are silly. Him saving people getting FESTUM'd has been MO since he became one.
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Anyone else notice that Canon is still in the voice credits?

>>13466202

Koyo's been floating around since the end of DA.
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>>13466392
Did they really detach the entire L boat for ROL? I just rewatched it last night and it looked incredibly small compared to what's shown in this episode, and considering the ROL crew had only 40 people, it seemed unlikely that they detached that huge of a boat. Wasn't the ROL boat just a big submarine that surfaced?

Also considering that ROL has been about 5 years earlier than the current series, I think it's safe to say thats ample time to rebuild it.
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>>13466011
That seems to be the case, but on the other hand, she also appears to have an expiration date.
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>>13466399
That's because she said one line to Kenji right before Koyo showed up.
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>>13466392
And that's why I said "it was not small feat" and not "they totally can!" And your "25%" number is way off anyways.
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>>13466353
Did UX even give him water terrain as a partner bonus?
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>0 results

YOU ARE ALL FAGGOTS FOR NOT DISCUSSING THE MOST IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENT OF THE SERIES.
NOW THERE ARE TWO OF THEM!

GET FUKT.

>>13466281
They weren't. His idoru thing was new

>>13466380
>we never got to see what he could do.
Oh, but we will.
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>>13466399
>Anyone else notice that Canon is still in the voice credits?
Well, she did have a voiced line this episode, so...
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>>13466408
>>13466415

Just rewatched, I'm a fucking retard. Please excuse me.
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>>13466414
>Oh, but we will.
I doubt we'll get to see festum form Koyo, but it would be nice.
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>>13466414
And they gave it to Seri. She's so fucking dead. Orihime even told her to run away, but of course she won't.
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>>13466432
Oh she'll "leave" the island alright
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I liked Akira this episode, I would have slapped him after the smile thing but he's still a good character, he's what happens when you go through so much despair

Feels bad that the twins lost their bowls
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>>13466449
Both were running against impossible odds. Sui needs to fix Rina's heart. In Akira's case, I don't know, Ai perhaps?
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>>13466414
Also dem troopers. There's a certain special Anon who might like this...

This was a meaty episode too.

Choked up when Sakura and Kenji finally went through with their double suicide.

I really hope they live.

>>13466460
>Ai
Raged a little.
I like Akira, but Ai is too good for the little suirt.
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>>13466472
It was the first female name that "for now isn't going to die" that came to my mind. Do you have any other suggestions?
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>>13466472
I really hope the new Drei still has the burning punch attack.

SRW is so finicky about attacks now, they'd never give her that attack back after upgrading.
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They're the same L boat
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So Einherjar bro >>13443127, looks like you owe me >>13443176 a coke, eh?
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>>13466492
I'm still calling bs on it being remade underwater. Especially where the got material to make it unless they harvested other parts of the ship for it.
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>>13466495
2/2
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I'm glad they found a way to bring Kouyo back to relevance. He was one of the most tragic characters of the first series and always got the short end of the deal.
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>>13466500
Maybe they found the old one, then repaired it? I don't remember if it was completely destroyed.
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Hello this is streamfag,

Stream will be at the end of the season.
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>>13466507
Fenrir'd, my friend.
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>>13466500
It's not that big. It was just a section of the L Block, not all of it.
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>>13466513
Oh, ignore what I said. Guess Alvis knows how to make submarines underwater.
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>>13466507
It Fenrired. I doubt they got anything from the old one.
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>>13466515
Look at the post I replied to with the L boat from Right of Left. It's the same
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BOLD STATEMENT

Fafner is the best mecha series ever produced.
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BRO, brah, BROYO, Broburagi
>>13466527
Exodus, sure. DA needs better art.
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Too bad Koyo's parents are most likely dead. I'd love to see their dumb fucking faces now.
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I am a little mad...
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>>13466569
Just wait
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>>13466543

They might just remaster DA if Exodus is a huge success.
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>>13466573
There isn't a lot of time. I wanna see some Valhalla powered headbutts before she's not there
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>>13466581
Has anyone official said as much?

That seems a little unlikely.
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>>13466560

They could be alive and still spiteful as fuck.
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>>13466584

Not official. but they can turn a profit selling overpriced Blu Rays.
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Do you think Miyu recorded some new Shouko lines before passing away
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>>13466527
I don't know, the first part of DA kinda drags the series down a notch (even if if does lead to a great pay off)
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>>13466594
Shouko's too busy being an Aura Battler. She ain't coming back.
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>>13466594
>>13466599
>Shouko's VA died last week
>Koyo appears this week saving Mark Sechs SS

THIS IS THE FUTURE YOU CHOSE, CANON.
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>>13466594

Shouko and Mamaru are totes dead. Assimilated people can most likely come back, the physical deaths aren't.

>>13466597

It did what other mecha seris don't ever do. Develop the world and characters.
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>>13466597
We have enough material the enhances the first half of the original now.

RoL, The novels, the manga. Even rewatches make it better because you have a firmer grip of the entire situation.
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>>13466608

I agree, the second and third time (back in January through March)I watched through DA and H&E it was so much better than the original viewing.
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>>13466597
I hate this meme so fucking much
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>>13466617

What meme? That developing the exposition isn't as cool as an explosive start?
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Too bad Kouyo wasn't around when people were dying underwater in RoL
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>>13466597
Exodus is only so great because it had DA to work from.

DA was a mecha show that dealt with the coming of age theme in its entirety. The idea of lost innocence in Shangrila's lyrics, the whole "outside world", the synergetic code amplifying the personality change of hormonal teenagers, "becoming another person" to pilot fafner etc. The entire show has not been very subtle about its story being children growing up into adults, decorated with sci-fi and mecha elements. It worked alright and was quite popular, but what drawn people most to it was the sci fi world building, the mechs and the character drama/suffering.

Exodus however no longer needs the coming of age themes as everyone is now grown up. Thus it drops all that and ramps up all the world building and sci-fi to an 11.
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>>13466524
Yes, but is just a small part of it. The image should clear it up. Color coded for your convenience.
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How was the ep?
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>>13466617
The first half of DA is the quintessential "I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THAT MAKES ME UPSET" that normal's can't handle. The kind of people who love the entire first episode to spoonfeed them the entire situation. That the battles aren't pretty and colorful enough so they don't just think THIS IS COOL. That why a teenager in a post apocalyptic society has a wardrobe like a gay biker in a house that was just him and his horny father.
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>>13466594
kek
>all these dead people having intermittent dialog through crossing. >Some fuccboi festum has lolRespawns
>>13466602
>last week
She died in October.

>>13466616
>tfw you've seen both DA and Exodus so many times you can pinpoint almost exactly where a random piece of dialog is.
>>13466617
It's not a meme. It's an opinion that several people independently came up with.
Personally I think it's wrong, and more of the voicing of that opinion is probably encouraged by the rise in split cour/S2 stuff as of late (influencing the lens through which series are watched).
For instance, a friend I introduced to the show came to the same conclusion and he had no idea about the writer swap or anything.
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>>13466642
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>>13466641
Good starting, very quick pacing middle, extremely hype ending.

>Suffering intensifies for Akira and Maya
>Island team has a month to make Einjerhars
>Let's get married!
>Suddenly, Einherjars are made with no time indication
>THIRD SOKYOU OPERATION
>KASUGAI KOYO
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>>13466642
You could just say "it's a bit slow and some people don't like that", you know?


I hate how fanatical some people have become about Fafner. It's a great show, but you people need to calm down.
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>>13466647
October 27th was still last week.
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>>13466661
Yeah, the whole Einherjar development thing seemed really rushed.
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>>13466641
Great
Both Nishio's finally got shot down on their one sided crushes with one going crazier and crazier and one acting really nice about it, Sakura and Kenji got married, Emery actually showed genuine emotion and that Yumiko's probably on a timer that's to World Tree, and Koyo a character if you told me on my first run of Fafner I'd be cheering like crazy one day for him I'd have thought you were a faggot.
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>>13466672
Only if your weeks start on Sundays, mate.
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>>13466641
Watch it yourself retard. Don't get spoiled.
Of course it's too late, but why would you spoil yourself on Fafner?
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>>13466678
>smile
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>>13466640
I don't think that's right, considering the shape of the blue circles don't match, and I'm pretty sure that big blue circle diagram was a side view of the entire island, showing that the L boat needed to go underwater first.
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>>13466669
>Fanatical
I don't want to be nice to people. I don't care how they feel if they can't handle pretty and bright colors being flashed at them to keep them pacified because they're retards.

I've listened to enough people give Cross Ange, A/Z and other shows passes that I'd much rather drive people away if they're gonna act like that. You either check it out because you see people enjoy it and tell you it gets better or you go start communities on facebook to shitpost shows because you've got nothing better to do
>>
So, Koyo can now shoot worm spheres from the weapons? Seems pretty cool.
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>>13466701
It's like people forgot that they're on a board of fanatics
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>>13466495
I think we just had different definitions of "new equipment". I though you were suggesting that the Einherjars were extra armor put on directly over the Nothungs. They seem to be completely remodelled units that utilize the Nothung's internal frames and cores. I was correct when I said that their armor is completely different.
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>>13466699
Black circles are the entire ship. Blue circles are the L and R block (I fucked up and encircled the R one). the Red one is the L boat. It's pretty simple.
>>
>>13466699
>>13466640
>I'm pretty sure that big blue circle diagram was a side view of the entire island
It is.
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>>13466414
There were always two, at least according to supplementary stuff. The one Seri has must be a new unit that was built to replace the one Kazuki lost when he went to the NUNs.

I really want the Zero Fafner to assimilate one with Rina's SDP to use as a flight pack.
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>>13466722
No I understand that, what I'm saying is that the two blue circles you have in the ROL screenshot is not the same boat. The blue circle on top is a side view of the entire island, showing that the yellow L boat needed to detach and travel downwards.
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>>13466722
What you called L boat is just a side view of the exact same L boat that I'm talking about. Rewatch Right of Left
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>Troopers have tiny flight packs

TROOPERS ARE CUTE
CUTE
>>
I really hope angela does a 2015 version of Shangri-La or Separation by the end of this. Crossing my fingers that we hear it at the end of the season.
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>dat H&E OST when Koyo comes home
Fuck yeah.

Also, re:Asspulls. I think Kenji's SDP is the ability to manipulate the Gordian Crystals.
Notice the scene right before Kenji says "I'm not letting anyone die"
The tendrils that form into Mk.Vier start up, in the scene afterwards when Kenji says that, his Einherjar system is spooled up--which as we've seen in the episode happens when the mechs activate the SDP.

I could be wrong, but my speculah is usually on point.

>>13466717
You (or at least the Anon I linked) specifically said "entirely new frames", which was what I took issue with.
I guess we are both right in our own ways. Anyways, not trying to start a pissing match. Have an Ai.
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>>13466776
>Anyways, not trying to start a pissing match.
Me either. I think it was just different semantics.
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>>13466741
>>13466743

Well, I stand corrected, Still, there's something off about the size.
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>Orihime telling Seri to run away if she has to

Gee, and that Zwolf not being in the OP wasn't enough of a death flag.
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>>13466785
>there's something off about the size
What? It looks the same as the Exodus one.
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Some interesting parallels/possible predictions regarding DA and Exodus episodes:

DA
>Ep 19 - Maya first sorties
>Ep 20 - Koyo returns
>Ep 21 - Sakura comatoses
>Ep 22 - Mamoru dies

Exodus
>Ep 18 - Maya first kills a human
>Ep 19 - Koyo returns

I hope this is just a coincidence.
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>>13466807
Oh, the yellow thing is the submarine they had to escape at the end. Forget about, it mate. I'm a retard.
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>>13466812
>Ep 18 - Maya first kills a human
Dude, she blows up a bomber full of them in Ep.15.
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>>13466812
>Maya first kills a human
No, she first killed a human in the 2nd episode of Exodus.
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>>13466822
>>13466824
Whoops I'm wrong. Nevermind false alarm.
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>>13466822
Killing people inside a plane is not the same as killing someone by shooting a gun.
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>>13466827
Yes, she used a giant robot gun to blow up the people in the plane and killed more of them.
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>>13465379
I wanna clear this up. Walter, not Johnathan didn't say anything about the crossing, Akira did. Walter was just asking to clarify that Hiroto's "record had been erased"
Presumably that's a result of the crossing being cut, although we've never actually seen a lost 'built-in' crossing until Hiroto

>>13466798
She didn't say run. And besides there happens to be a little Aircraft Carrier out in the Northeast Pacific Ocean where she could get some nice rehab.

SHE'S FUCKING LIVING
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>>13466827
She shot a gun to kill the plane
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>That scene where Maya's lying in her pod with only her eyes moving after Kazuki calls her
I don't know if it was funny or creepy as fuck. Probably both.
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>>13466830
>>13466838
Inside a machine 50 meters tall. It's not the same. I do agree that it isn't a pararell, though.
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>>13466851
>Inside a machine 50 meters tall
35 meters and Nothung model feels like moving your actual body so it was the same.
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>>13466841
It's because Kazuki already fucking tried this after she blew up the plane.

AND WOOPS I'M A DUMB HOMO WHO DOESN'T CARRY A GUN SORRY MAYA LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT TO SHOOT THE GUY

Maya MIGHT actually be losing her infatuation with Kazuki over this. I mean, he's a great guy, and he's nice, but he's not exactly living up to his word.
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>>13466413
Nope. It's +75 EN, +150 Ranged and +5 accuracy

Also, the episode was neat but rushed as fuck. I hope it won't happen again. Koyo coming back was pretty shocking though
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>>13466876
>Rushed
Why do you say rushed? I mean they launched an attack, it failed and they resolved not to launch another till the upgrades were ready and then we got the first half of that attack at the end of the episode, which isn't over.

I think this episode was just trying to facilitate a small time skip so that the Exodus group can actually get deeper into Festum territory.
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>>13466870
>AND WOOPS I'M A DUMB HOMO WHO DOESN'T CARRY A GUN
Yeah, here's the weird thing.
>Let's spread word that Kazuki and Shoushi are injured and have them hide.
>But let's not give them any hidden guards or at least bulletproof vests in case something goes wrong!
>Instead let's hope for a Deus Ex Machina!
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27535117

Einjerhar sortie and Koyo's appearance clip is now on Nico.
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>>13466870
If anything it cemented her crush. Hell, the very next scene they were acting like a girl (Kazuki) getting embarrassed because a close male friend (Maya) finally noticed her new haircut. And after that she was closer to her usual self that she have been in a long while.
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>>13466830
>Maya will NEVER pwn you at COD
>Sakura will NEVER beat you up
>Canon will NEVER quote scripture at you
>Seri will NEVER give you good luck charms
>Ai will NEVER be real
Just die in my sleep already.
( ._.) ( ;_;)

>>13466870
>Maya MIGHT actually be losing her infatuation with Kazuki over this.
MayAyy OTP, you know it to be true.

>>13466876
Interesting, I felt like the first island episode was a lot more rushed, to me t only felt like 15 minutes of airtime. This one did have the built in time-skip, but I thought it was paced fine, albeit irregularly.
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There's a pretty big plot hole here...

They said upgrading the Fafners would take over a month.

They said the shield wouldn't last a month.

They said they'd leave the island in the R boat, upgrade the Fafners, then come back.

But we don't see them leave the island and suddenly the Fafners are ready without any indication of time passing.
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>>13466899
I think it's implied they marathoned the completion of the new models with Youko fainting and all.
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>>13466887
Everything hapenned really fast. At the beginning they launch a failed attack, few moments later Kenji and Sakura get married, then Fafners are upgraded really quickly and the next battle begins. It wasnt that bad or something, but still everything seemed to happen a lot faster than in the other episodes. At least for me
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>>13466899
It's a timeskip, friend. Also, Hazamilf clearly overworked herself to beat the "clock"
>They said they'd leave the island in the R boat, upgrade the Fafners, then come back.
They said they might

>suddenly the Fafners are ready without any indication of time passing.
Obviously not. If the Fafners were ready, obviously time elapsed.
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>>13466915
The episode was clear enough. Some people seem to need a "X months/years later" to be aware of a time skip.
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>>13466889
Well, Maya and Jonathan were there.
Kazuki probably wasn't aware.

Also they did have Emery who could instantly tell Soushi if a threat was coming

Akira's the one who fucked shit up.

>>13466899
>plot holes

They worked fast. They managed to beat the clock on the generators. The Exodus plan WAS just an option they presented but chose instead to go with the Fafners. They weren't committing to it in the meeting, just making us aware it existed.

>>13466912
Well, shit's in high gear. The first attack failed so fast because Walker had planned this shit well. The marriage was meant to SHOW time was passing and move their characters forward while not making us stuck in the dark for an entire episode and the sortie was also meant to show time passing. It'd have been rushed if Rina had been able to take out Walker's Mir but it got away. Reminder, they've got 6 episodes left now with

>Miaso
>Nuns
>Bellcross/Walker/Spy Sat
>Altair
>Island
>Exodus group

To resolve everything. I don't think there really was time to show the islanders stuck inside going "Gee whiz, it's sure sad being trapped but we gotta work hard to get everything ready"
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>>13466870
What? Are you serious? That conversation they had confirmed that Maya won to me.
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>>13466957
>Maya
>Won
>While Soushi still exists
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>>13466957
>Maya won
I think it was already established back in S1 that Kazuki was not loving Maya in a romantic way

Don't get me wrong, I love suffering in this series like every masochist fan out there, but I don't want to see Maya being heartbroken because of Kazuki again
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>>13466967
>implying
Fafner has established that gay is a phase, anon, and Kazuki was never actually in a gay phase in the first place. He was just devastated over slicing his best friend's eye up and then having a hard time 'getting him' because his best friend is actually autistic, and then once he 'got him' he got kidnapped by aliums, and then when the aliums finally gave him back they were bros.

Name me one genuinely homo moment in Exodus.

>>13466981
That was when Kazuki was obsessed over understanding Soushi. Now Soushi's finally grown up enough to acquire social skills and wants Kazuki to confirm it one way or another, so he can either give up on Maya or give her the D.
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>>13466949
>Well, Maya and Jonathan were there.
Jonathan was with the stoning crowd. He just ran after the NUN guy.
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>>13466991
The haircut.
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>>13467034
Autism moment.
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>>13466991
>Name me one genuinely homo moment in Exodus.
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>>13466428
But we are already getting some of his powers shown, he used the gundrake to shoot a worm sphere inside Walkers hand and explode it, something neither Kazuki nor Soushi managed, he is more or less like a Sein since he can overclock his Fafner with his Festum powers and has full control over the assimilation any of his companions may suffer, like Kazuki and Soushi he has no SDP he is already in a powered up state 24/7 thanks to his festum body
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So, Fafner is a pretty Christian show. After all, it did kill the adulterers.
Sakura and Kenji tied the knot.
I think they'll live.

>>13466915
What's more is that Fumihiko specifically says that taking part in the Exodus™ Keikaku would be contingent on them NOT completing the mechs.

Just watch the episode, senpai
>>13466957
Not him, but check out the scene where she talks with Akira.
Furthermore, there's a tiny sense of resentment I see in Maya. Note in Episode 10 (iirc) He tells her to go back to the Island, that he'll take care of it. HEr response is more-or-less to piss off. Similar thing a few eps back.
Maya's grown up and I don't think she has the same infatuation with the Kaz anymore. Deep respect, and certainly love, but not the same.
Going back to H&E and again in Exodus she keeps telling him, "hey no need to fight" yet he still does. If anything I think she's steeling herself against something inevitably bad/existence altering, and that sorta cuts off romance.
In a sense, Kazuki has become much more arrogant than he used to be, but he's maintained his general naïveté, and I think that's something Maya has picked up on. She doesn't have super-powers and in her own words has difficulty coping with her lack of capability in comparison to Kazuki's h4x.
If you look at Kazuki in this ep's scene he comes off as detached.
"You're always up there, huh?"
As if he can't quite relate to her either. I think their discussion acknowledges that there is and has possibly been some sort of shared romantic feeling between the two, but I think it's more of a nod to how the stars never really aligned for them.
>>13466991
>Name me one genuinely homo moment in Exodus.
Don't really know why the homo brigade brought that up, Kazuki doesn't need to be homosexual for my comments above to hold merit.
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Did they super upgrade the Welle Shield of the island? I remember back in S1 even scrubby Festums are able to break through it like it was nothing.
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>>13467068
Didn't they often open it up selectively?

and that can be explained as the Island mir learning from fighting festum.
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>>13467058
Bros hanging out.
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>>13467078
>>13467068
Also they used the data from the Polaris Mir to upgrade their whole tech, from the drugs to the defense systems
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>>13467082
just bros stargazing together at the beach

Seriously now, the fact that Kazuki doesn't see Maya in a romantic light doesn't need him going full homo. Maya probably still has feelings for him but I don't think Kazuki will end up with anyone at this point
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>>13467064
This, I really hope Kazuki gets a wake up call on his arrogance.

Maya was the one who saved the camp.
Maya was the one who saved him.

Yet she's the one who he keeps trying to send away. Like he doesn't trust her or doesn't think of her as an equal.

I wouldn't even mind if she snapped at him saying he doesn't even know how to use a gun or fly a plane. That just because he can pilot the Sein doesn't make him somehow above everyone else because that's A BIT of the vibe I'm getting from Kazuki now. That without the Sein he was just "some guy who was going to die in three years who cooks" while in the Sein he's "the guy who can fight and take on everyone's burden"

If there's a reality check I hope it's when they learn Canon's gone. Like Kazuki starts getting all mopey and "I should have been the one to go" "if I was here I could have stopped this" and then Maya slaps him across the face and tells him to stop being a hypocrite and stop devaluing what Canon did
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>>13466870
Anon, the moment Kazuki mentioned the whole "let's return to the island together" thing, Maya's ovaries went into overdrive.
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>>13467104
He just wants to protect her, which clashed with her will to protect him. There isn't any malice in Kazuki's intent. He just need to sit and have a proper talk with Maya. They both need to open up about what they want, instead of holding everything inside them.

>>13467118
This.
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>Sakura and Kenji keep their wedding rings on ring holder necklaces
That's a nice little detail.
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>>13467068
Yes. Back in season they only had 2 Welle shields(shields 1 and 2 were the only ones referred to) but in Exodus they've referred to up to 8 so far.
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>>13467104
I don't think it's arrogance - it's more a result of how aimless he was (is). He himself probably doesn't truly believe in it, but he can't see any other path.
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>>13467133
I wasn't saying Kazuki had malice. I'm just saying that Kazuki does seem to be putting himself a little above everyone else. That he could have saved people where others can't. It was even back in Season 1 of Exodus. It's not intentional, it's just an innocent arrogance on his part.

I remember there was even an audio drama about him trying to keep Maya from piloting and her getting annoyed. He's being kind, but sometimes kindness is cruel.
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>>13467118
No, her reaction was more of a "well at least one of us gets to stay the same" and a big part of her arc throughout all of the franchise is her desire to protect Kazuki's way of life. In that, she was happy she succeeded.

Anyways, I can't wait til the end of the season to see all of you people BTFO by a non-romantic end regardless of the pairing.

>>13467146
Look at the scene in the Mir forest. In a way it was pretty selfish considering he came on the mission to protect people and he was just gonna stop because well these Festum also need MY help. Sosuhi's dismissive reaction was pretty spot on too.

If we assume the FutureSein in Canon's vision was actually piloted by Kazuki, then the arrogance he is capable of exhibiting, as he did in that scene, is really poignant. Frightening even.
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>>13467156
And that's precisely why they both need to talk. Maya just says "it's okay, I can still do it." which Kazuki accepts for the moment, only to reject it after the next crisis. They need to stop being idiots and talk properly like the two adults they are now.
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>>13466231
>People think Hiroto's SDP isn't Crossing

Because he wants people to communicate and to see the world.
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>>13467196
FUCK
IT WORKS
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>>13467196
LISTEN TO HIS SONG
>yfw duet with Angela of Shangri-la

I don't even care if it sounds good I'd cum buckets
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Is Koyo return linked to Canon?
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Coat Misao when.
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>>13467211
Yes, Orihime basically says so before Koyo shows up.

If they ever make more ships/new islands they better name one NEO DUBLIN for her.
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>>13467211
He wouldn't have returned for some reason without Canon fixing up the path for him to be able to. Maybe he was trying to come visit the island to fight Walker, but due to Walker's massive field his teleprots were being jammed perhaps? He shows up when Walker's core is condensed, and Sui was only able to do that because of Canon's upgrade package.
So yes.
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>>13467219
soon, anon. Soon
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>>13465410
>Well, it might just be TWIN MAGIC that's letting Akira pick up on whatever ability to communicate that Rina has.
This is what I think. They'll be talking in crossing soon.
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>>13467171
He said that in the forest more as something he wishes to do after he is gone, he is still rationalizing his own certain death, it is something hard for anyone to swallow
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She was so based this episode.
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>>13467262
There was part of him that was ready to jump in the green crystal right there and then.
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>>13467268
It was in the eyes.
>>13467262
Also, Soushi who probably knows him better than anyone else tells him to cut it out because he knows Kaz would do it.
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God damn.
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>>13467301
Whoever designed that coat really hit all the right spots.
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>>13467322
I know man. It's sharp.
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I don't think Canon is coming back, yet, I think Orihime is sending out copies of Koyo to trace the same path she took in the future.
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>>13467348
>copies of Koyo
wut?
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>>13467348
That makes no sense when Dreizehn and Koyo are in the ED fight.
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Regarding the L Boat I think they have some cloacked dock somewhere, it would be incredibly dumb if they had made the whole island but did not make a facility so they could fix if something went wrong
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>>13467348
I also think that Canon isn't coming back, but I don't quite grasp what you're trying to say about Kouyo.
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>>13467368
>isn't coming back
Well, she's dead, but a piece of her will be caught up to.

Can't wait for the smug + "What took you so long?"

>>13467372
>cloaked dock
I mean maybe back in Japan where the boat was built, but I rather doubt it. ALVIS was designed as a one way trip. They did leave something behind the first time the island moved in DA, but that wasn't a dock.
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>>13467392
I mean the dock like they had in Gundam 00, something for quick repairs but not a home base
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>>13467400
Unlikely, ALVIS is supposed to be self-sufficient and there's really nothing to base that idea on.
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>>13467392
Alvis was made after Japan was nuked. They had to have someway to build that thing on open sea. Maybe something akin Colony Builder in Unicorn.
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>>13467414
Incorrect, ALVIS was built in one of the few surviving regions of Japan.
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>>13467400
Why would they need one? It'd make more sense to station a repair dock to the island.
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>>13467376
I don't think anyone who thinks she'll reappear thinks that will be a permanent thing.
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>>13467419
Even so, they would need some kind of infrastructure to make repairs or to expand the land. It's ludicrous to make something that big without the ability to repair extensive damage without "docking" somewhere else.
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>>13465255
Bricks were shat.
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7 episodes and maybe a movie left.
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Episode 20
>The Soldiers Come Home

HOMEWARD BOUND MOTHERFUCKERS
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>>13467464
Oh geez, how bad can it be?
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>>13467464
Gee, it sure would be a shame if the Exodus group returned to the island only to find people alive but the island ravaged by Walker's assault, the people they sent back dead, Canon dead, Kenji and Sakura both back in their mechs, with Kenji pulling a triple fucking load in his, all the other pilots suffering various horrible forms of assimilation phenomenon, many of the adults having had their horrible symptoms from the constant nuclear warfare back in the early years of festum recur and damage their overall health and the fact that Walker has defused itself into the oceans so it can pretty much find them no matter what.

That's exactly the kind of pick me up Kazuki, Akira, and Maya need right now.
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>>13466608
>>13466638
The only thing I thought of the first 10 eps after rewatching is not noticing the 2nd Alvis before. It's still just as bad/boring as before, it doesn't do much except kill off Shoko and Koyo, set up death flags for the other characters, and the cool Tsubaki ghost scene. But it's the worst part of the series.
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>>13466011
I think she's still "herself" but has a deep understanding of emery's world now, ever since she "died"
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>>13466414
>space battle.png
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>>13467486
>Bad/boring
If you're a retard maybe.

If all you got out of your rewatch as "deathflags and a cool ghost scene" as things you got that's pretty sad.
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>>13467496
Please don't act like the Grecofags. We can discuss things without calling each others retards for no reason.
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>>13467496
No but it's the most poorly paced, and a lot of forced "suffering" without setup
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>these elaborate battles using the SDPs

fuck yeah
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>>13467503
Not him, but please don't use "forced suffering" as in "forced drama." All drama is forced in any medium, because the author decided to include it. So, calling one forced and another natural is stupid.


This "forced drama" meme needs to die.
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>>13467500
NO U xDDDDDDD!!!1!
>>13467503
I agree the pacing was bad, but I don't really remember much suffering and I recently rewatched it. It showed some reactions of grief. It was detached, sorta like looking at it through a window, but it didn't feel forced. Also, by definition everything that happens because it was written is forced. It's a weak criticism.

Just like
>muh plot

I think a lot of anime watchers fail to pick up on a lot of the visual cues in series because they focus too much on reading the dialog
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>>13467524
Er, not bad...I think erratic is a better term.

I'm also not trying to say plot isn't important, just that it's given way too much significance at the detriment of appreciating other things.
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>>13467503
>poorly paced
Where? As stated the novels help with Shoko's pacing if you care to read them.

You get the Introduction arc which is the first six episodes that set up the basics of the world and ends with a bang.

Then you have Koyo's arc which lasts 3 episodes and provides set up and development for several characters.

And at that point you're at the start of the "Kazuki leaves" arc and that's got no issues in my book.

The weakest arc IS Shoko's but as I've stated that's been elaborated and fleshed out in the novels with her getting more set up as the Sechs pilot what with her simulation training with Kazuki and it being noted that she adapted exceedingly well to the altered state of mind required to get the Sechs able to fly.
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>>13467532
>As stated the novels
I'm not even that guy, but this is simply the worst defense possible.
>b-but read the manga/LN/VN it's so much better, I swear!

It's nice, but it really has nothing to do with the merits of the first 10 or so episodes---which I LIKE
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>>13466991
>Name me one genuinely homo moment in Exodus.
Doesn't really get gayer than this. I'm disappointed in all of you
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>>13467524
Well, the main thing I was confused about was the mir and festum which was explained in the 2nd half of the series. So I had to rewatch it mainly for that.

The beginning episodes, just had a few issues. It jumps from place to place to make stuff like the cores looker "weirder", "more mysterious" than it is, which doesn't really work and the cores seem more mysterious after you've seen Tsubaki wake up. The deaths of Shoko and Koyo, I think are wasted since you don't get to know them. Shoko basically has no scenes between episode 1 and 6 when she dies. Neither of them had any purpose except to die.
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>>13467543
>Exodus
That's H&E, you dolt.
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>>13467543
Not that guy but, how a scene in H&E is a scene from Exodus?
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>>13467548
jealous bitch arc incoming
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>>13467543
That's H&E. The challenge was to find the homo in Exodus.
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>>13467143
It's like they are competing in a death flag tournament.
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>>13467548
I doubt she was in love, it was probably just a crush, she will be fine. She can go back to Maya.
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>>13467538
>the worst defense possible
No, the worst defense possible is just saying it's good.

There is ACTUAL media with CONTENT that could not be incorporated into the story that fleshes out characters and the setting and it's your fault if you don't consume it because you're too lazy/don't want to.

I guess the audio dramas are garbage too and have no place being consumed as well.

I guess RoL, HaE, and Exodus shouldn't be referenced at all either because they aren't reflective of DA's quality.

If you don't like DA just drop it and jump right in to Exodus and see if you'll like it.
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>>13467548
Kaburagi will win the rinabowl (assuming both survive, of course).
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Place your bets, who is the next islander that will die?

All my money is still, sadly, with Seri.
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>>13467563
They're setting her up with Sui. Hell, this episode was pushing it real hard.
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>>13467545
>I think are wasted since you don't get to know them
>Neither of them had any purpose except to die.
Wrong, they were used to develop the other other characters. It might seem a little hamfisted, but to think that you need to relate to the characters and that their deaths have to mean something to YOU, is foolish.

>Koyo
>dead
baka senpai

>>13467564
Look, I've watched DA at least a half dozen times. I've read just about everything I could get my hands on to boot, but that really has nothing to do with what is on the screen. It's nice that all of that exists, but it's really not a good way to argue and it doesn't "fix" the issues with the show's actual script in the actual show, especially for someone going into the series as a first timer.
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>>13466393
>Him saving people getting FESTUM'd has been MO since he became one.
What if Canon had to trigger a future that led to Sui getting assimilated to Koyo would materialized?