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Why build mobile suits when you can upgrade balls for space combat?
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The balls are inert.
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>>13459121
Because Balls can be used for friendly fire.

Also, the minute you start weaponizing Balls, Zeon gets their sport teams together and starts putting them in Zakus, causing mass chaos that neither side wants.
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>>13459121
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>>13459210
Best answer.

>>13459270
Glorious.
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>>13459270

>Invinci-Ball
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Because the plot says nothing performs better than a humanoid-shaped machine. Therefore mobile pods will always be inferior regardless of how many guns or thrusters you put on them.
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>>13459332
Due to AMBAC this is entirely true.
In addition as you scale up a Mobile Pod and add on more guns and thrusters it effectively loses its status as a Mobile Pod and instead becomes a Mobile Armor. Mobile Suits will, inevitably, carry better equipment in many regards simply due to their size. How will you carry an MS reactor on a Mobile Pod without it simply being a Mobile Armor anyway?

You see Ball-style mobile pod vehicles in Victory getting trashed because of this sort of thing. Suits have gotten smaller but to try to turn a mobile pod into something to really compete well with an MS would require it to be MS sized anyway.
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>>13459270
How in the hell is there not a Ball Gundam?

Like, couldn't Build Fighters have done that?
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>>13459689
The second Crossbone Gundam manga had one.
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Doesn't the Ball not even have a display? It's got a window?

A fucking window.
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>>13459689
>He doesn't know about B-Gundam.
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>>13459682
Why not make the ball as small as possible, and have a squad of manned funnels
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>>13459690
>look it up
>it's real
>it looks like this
Even dinkier than expected.
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>>13459697
So a Ball with no guns and some Balls, then? Sounds good.

>>13459693
Pretty much. I'd expect it to be a little like worker MS like the first Mobile Worker or Geze, where there's both windows and a small display for cameras.
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>>13459695
>>13459702
Anon, you're being silly. Stop that.
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>>13459682
Anon, the Ball is actually pretty big. It really wouldn't be impossible to make a better mobile pod of comparable size. MS-grade reactor, thrusters and weapons can all fit onto it no problem.

Hell, the automated defense pod in Stardust Memory was pretty effective too.

Balls are weak in-universe by explaining it off with AMBAC and such. But mostly it's because of narrative reasons favoring humanoid robots.
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>>13459270
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>>13459814

> But mostly it's because of narrative reasons favoring humanoid robots.

Well, Balls do have an absolutely atrocious thruster layout as well. They just have one main thruster, which points up relative to the pilot's point of view and some nozzles for changing direction.
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>>13459814
I think it's actually been discussed before that generally the ball is depicted as a little big, especially in models.

I wouldn't mind a model of that turret.
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>>13459857
Easy fix.
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>>13459121
wars are won by stepping on things
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>>13459698
Consider this.

You're Zeon. Sitting high and mighty at Solomon, you know nothing can kill you. Suddenly, you get reports of the Gundam prowling about. Now, that shit's pretty insane, but you've got your posse, the Nightmare of Solomon is here, and hey, boss man has that insane MA in the back, you can take the Gundam. So you go out to scout it out, see what it looks like.

You catch the thing hiding behind an asteroid, but you can see its face. And HOLY SHIT WHAT THE HELL IS THAT THING, because if that head is 15 or so meters tall, how big is the actual MS? You don't want to deal with that shit. That's fucking crazy. It might even be bigger than the Zam.
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>>13459121
i'd make mobile suits obsolete then.
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Captured and reverse engineered by Zeon.
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Reminder that the Ball is superior in terms of sensor range, firing range and acceleration to every Zeon suit pre-Gelgoog.
The Ball is not a front-line unit, it's for second-line support fire and long-range bombardment.
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>>13459682
>You see Ball-style mobile pod vehicles in Victory getting trashed because of this sort of thing.
Or because they're shit-tier vehicles used by Macedonia who can only afford to run decrepit tech.
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>>13460362
>Heavy Object is Ball:Revenge of the Ball
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>>13460471
I was thinking a bunch also showed up in Zanscare hangars as defense too. I may be wrong though.
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>>13459453
>RB-79 Monster
Ha, did they literally just take a Macross mech and make it into a ball? That's fucking great.
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>>13459857
You have no clue do you? The thrusters on the Ball are actually pretty decent all things considered they have better left-right shift thrusters than a certain amount of mobile suits as well as the bottom mounted repositioning thrusters and vertical engines. Here's the best part, because it is literally, well, a ball, additional thruster placement and orienting around a central mass and momentum point is leagues easier and cheaper than anything human shaped. The Gm in comparison is the atrocious one, with no major left/right thrusters, downward thrusters, forward thrusters, and the only major engines being back mounted with a weak 90 degree angle of movement, this is all added to the strange layout of the suit where the centre of mass is any ones guess
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>>13459453
>Dice
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>>13460512
The Ball's thrusters are all solid-fuel, though, so it can't hold as much gas as a GM can, especially with needing to dodge much more than a GM does thanks to tin foil armor.
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>>13459121

Gundam never made any sense. There is literally no reason to make your giant war machines humanoid.
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>>13461197
Oh come, look where you are.
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>>13460108

Wasn't that the reason for them to build Nue Zeil or something?
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>>13463384
No, Zeong.

>>13461171
That doesn't make any sense, a solid fuel rocket engine cannot be reused after igniting it once as the fuel cannot be controlled. It'd be a single use thruster burn and then it's got no more thrust available.

Isn't everything in UC supposed to be using thermonuclear rocket engines anyway?
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>>13463412
The Ball is said to use solid fuel pellets for controlled, individual burst of thrust. So you can reuse the thruster as long as you have pellets left for it.

That said, there is no reason why you can't put a thermonuclear thruster into a mobile pod. It is the exact same argument as "why can't we use lunar titanium on a mobile tank?" or "why not install some form of AMBAC onto a normal spacecraft?"

The answer is still "It's Gendem, so we need humanoid robots."
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>>13459858
The HGUC Twin Ball set actually comes with four turrets. Two of the normal type you saw there and two of a double barreled variaty. So basically you have two extra turrets you can use one whatever you want. The double barreled ones in particular will just fit on anything since the peg type is so common.
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>>13459838
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>>13459453
>Shuttle Kock
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>>13459121
Oggo >>> Ball
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The zeon oggo was superior
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>>13459210
>Gundam (Foot)Ball
This needs to be a thing. If not an anime, then a game. I'd play/watch it!
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round enough?
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>>13464366
SD Gundam kinda delivers on that front.

>>13464024
Igloo was Zeon wank and you know it.
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I'd imagine that they second they put all the high end reactor and propellant stuff so close together in a ball it would lead to bad explosive things.

Larger structures were kinda a necessary engineering requirement.
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>>13459121
muh AMBAC
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