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>WE $720K NOW

>Aspiration patch finished
https://alternativeprojects.wordpress.com/2015/10/24/aspiration-release-chronicles-02-patch-up/

Thanks AltPro, you guys fucking rock
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Bit early there chief
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Wow I didn't even realize it was possible to suck so much at translating.
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>>13398291
>red G string
a wat?
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>>13398503

Sorta like how the soul of a Japanese Warrior is a Katana DUCT TAPED to the side of your cockpit.
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>>13398532
Makes me wonder what Meiya did with Minaru Kamui.
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>>13398589
I imagine she took it with her to Operation Cherry Blossoms.
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>>13398623
Where did she keep it though?
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>>13398634
>Implying the Shogun's *custom* TSF wouldn't have a holder for a katana.
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>>13398639
Does Koubu Kisaragi exist in that universe? I imagine it does.
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>>13398291
>725k
ITS SPEEDING UP
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>>13398263
Nah. It's not terrible. It's stupid, but it's fun, cute, and lewd.

It would have been a LOT better if it were more serious, though. Even Extra had serious romance. Altered Fable plays EVERYTHING for laughs and fanservice.
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>>13398800
I thought that was the point. It's supposed to be healing after the events of Alternative.
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>>13398730
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>>13398893
...Jontron?
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>>13398802
I don't think it worked. I wanted it to be heartwarming. Instead it was silly. The events of Alternative were joked about but never addressed. It was gallows humor rather than a therapy session. There was no serious romance. There were (bad) H-scenes, but no real romantic resolution.

The rare serious scene, e.g. Kasumi at Christmas, worked very well.
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>>13398930
I enjoyed having more time with my waifu.
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>>13398930
>There were (bad) H-scenes
ALL the h scenes in this franchise were shit, let's not kid ourselves
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>>13398939
I'm a Sumikafag and her route was the worst by far. God damn cockblocking satellite!

Spending more time with my waifu was the main reason I read it. It could have done that better, though. I wanted a cute and happy romance. Instead I got slapstick. The only serious romance was a fucking dream.
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>>13398972
Before the Shimmering Time Ends (BtSTE) is pure fanservice. I was reading it for the H-scenes. The trilogy is too serious to have long, high-quality H-scenes in the middle, but BtSTE isn't.
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Man, Aspiration is some silly shit.
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>>13398291
>>WE $720K NOW
I'm really proud of all of you.
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>>13398503
RED STRING
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There's a translation out?
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>>13398972
The Marimo and Yuuko scenes were pretty hot.
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>>13399093
You mean the ones in Extra and Unlimited? I didn't read either of them. If they're good, I'll certainly go for them when I re-read the trilogy.

Are there Yuuko or Marimo routes in BtSTE?
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>>13399022

Lelouch is pretty entertaining in the MUV-LUV universe.

Hopefully he'll show up again in the Eurofront VN.
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>>13399022
I enjoyed the hell out of it. Just finished. Ilfriede is fucking adorable.
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>>13399214
>>13399206
Never said it was bad, just that it's super silly.
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>>13398291
>>13399214

>Black Shirt and White tie
>With a darker colour jacket

This kills eyesight.
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>Other thread still alive
>barely on page 9
>on a slow board like /m/

Jumping the gun much?
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>>13399238
Shills wait for no one.
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So looks like SM's getting its cast expanded. Wonder what other changes they'll be introducing.

>マライ ハイゼンンベルク
1st Lt Mirai Heisennberg

>クル卜 グリ|ベル
MSgt Kurt Gris Bell

>ヴイヴイ シュバインシュタイガ
Sgt Vivi Schwansteiga

>三ア七ムバルク
Major Joachim Balck
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>>13399319

>オツト|シュトラウス
Otto Stauss

>ホルツア ハンニバル
Holzer Hannibal
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>>13399319
>三
wat
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>>13399336

>ヨアヒムバルク

Typo, sorry. I'm kind of a noob at this whole transcription crap.
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>>13399319
>MSgt Kurt Gris Bell
I think they turned him into Sgt Oddball here.
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>>13399319
Anyways maybe there are new characters, but most if not all of these are existing secondary characters we've just never seen.

Also
>Marei Heisenberg
>Kelt Griebel
>Vivi Schweinsteiger
>Otto Strauss

Missed this until now but Moemi Otaka is voicing Vivi, I think that is a probably new character like what's their faces at the Kyoto school.

Hannibal is battalion commander, Marei is his sidekick, Griebel is a tank battalion dude who has a spinoff short story, Joachim is the west German battalion commander.
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>>13399214
Those tight pants sure did weird things to my lower body.
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>>13399511
They must've cut off your circulation or something. You'll be okay.
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My sides
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>Less than $173k left to go
We might actually make it.
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>>13399535

Aspiration is making me regret not picking up the Typhoons when they were on sale on Amazon.
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>>13399540
Rafales are better.
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>>13398639
>Implying the katana wasn't needed for activate the custom Takemi
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>>13399586
Until the day the French bring out their own support gun type, no.
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>>13399598
EF-2000 STRONG
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She is a QT
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>>13399682
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>>13399682

But Luna is the true /m/istress of Eurofront, the chick who loves the mechs as much as you do.
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Ilfriede is totaly insane, Euro Front VN when?
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>Still no mention of Haiburu or other missing side-stories
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Total Eclipse VNs added to the KS when?
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>>13399993
Never.
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>>13399540
http://www.kotobukiya.co.jp/product/product-0000001815/

well a better version it's comming out
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So why don't they just orbitally bomb the BETAs? They already have ways to counter Laser-class interception, and there's always remote controlled missiles.
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>>13400003
When was that announced? January too...dammit I'm not going to have money for that with all my other figures and TSF kits
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What a great time to be a ML fan.
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>>13400014
same reason why railguns aren't economically viable.

to get that much stuff into orbit costs way to much money
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>>13400014
If g-bombing didn't work, orbital missiles won't either.
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>>13400003
that is still the same mold right? i was just thinking of getting another typhoon myself as i already have the black one unbuilt and have seen from the old F22 EMD the darker kits dont look nearly as nice as the lighter ones
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>>13400030
Comparing my builds and ones that I've seen here, the lighter ones only look better if you paint in the detail. Which I would do if I were any good at painting. Maybe I'll buy a spare 1/144 kit and try painting that
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For a moment I actually wanted to back this, but then I noticed that it's gonna be sent by TOM. I could not stomach the embarassment of receiving their box.
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>>13400014
>So why don't they just orbitally bomb the BETAs?
It was tried on the Moon. Didn't work to well. Hitting things from orbit is inaccurate and expensive, and BETA dwell deep underground in extremely tough tunnels.

>They already have ways to counter Laser-class interception
No. Heavy metal clouds help, somewhat exposure damage, but they aren't a counter.

>and there's always remote controlled missiles.
BETA give targeting priority to more advanced computers. If you try to launch guided munitions under the cover of a saturation bombardment, the guided munitions will be picked off first.
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>>13400041
Explain.
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>>13400037
i dont paint mine but i do a little touching up such as panel lining and adding backing to the clear colored parts and that is much more visible on the lighter kits
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>>13400041
>actually have to pay for shipping under $800 tier
Wow fuck that.
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>>13400046
>>13400041
I thought it'd be covered in shitty anime art, but it's just a bunch of barely knowns words. Who gives a shit?
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>>13400041
>being embarrassed by the things you like
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>dakis are still shipping out of Japan
>still going to get assraped by textile tariffs
This is all a much shittier deal than I already thought.
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>>13400041
>>13400057
Holy shit dude you had that shipped to Australia? The postage for TOM stuff here is ridiculous. And the boxes... I bout a tiny mug and a phone strap, and they sent it in a box big enough to fit two Non-Scale TSF boxes in. I had to walk home with it through western Sydney.
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>>13400063
I just googled it.
>I had to walk home with it through western Sydney
So? Just bring a bag with you. Jesus.
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>>13400065
I picked it up after my uni classes, only had a backpack. The box was almost double the size of my bag.
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>>13400066
Why didn't you just take the contents out to your bag and discard the box?
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>>13400069
I'd look suspicious sniffing the opened box in public.
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>>13400071
s-sniffing?
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>>13400071
No, no wouldn't. Next time jut go to the nearest trash and discard the delivery box if the contents are small like that.
Nobody gives two fucks what you are doing.
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>>13400069
It was late afternoon, hot day, outside a busy train station. Didn't think to open it, because I'm a fucking retard sometimes

>>13400074
>>13400071
that is not me.
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>>13400076
Essentially, the problem wasn't in the sender, but in the receiver.
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>>13400082
>shipping in huge oversized boxes at excess cost is not a problem with the shipper
Why do you people do this
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Gonna be pretty pissed when KS ends with somewhere around 850k or something. Can't really believe it reaching 900k.
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>>13400057
There should be a "Let's enjoy otaku life!" somewhere on that box, too.
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>>13400097
Because it's more about the weight and how the items fit in boxes. You ordered items that didn't fit the minimum sized box. thus the one that they fit or had stocked was used. Weight matters more than size.
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>>13400107
Once again, how does having a ridiculously shitty box selection not fall on the seller.

I'm not him either you shilling cockbite.
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>>13400099
It depends on if we get a bump at the end like most KS projects do. If we get a bump similar in proportion to the Clannad KS's last few days, then 900k is within reach, but it'll still be very very close.
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>>13400114
There are standard sizes. You stock about three or four different sizes and go what you have to. If you ordered products that don't fit the smaller one, you just have to go with a larger one even if it has marge amounts of empty space.
Again, size doesn't matter. Weight does.
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>>13400107
>>13400122
The items in the box weighed about 100 grams all up...
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>>13400135
And? If they didn't fit a smaller box, bigger box was used.
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Why are most of the rewards so shit? Also, I wish there was an option to switch the digital games in the 150$ package to something else to make it actually worth it.
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>>13400141
the items were tiny
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>>13400146
A mug is not a tiny item.
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yummy
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>>13400150
Haggis is good.
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>>13399586
Probably but there no rafale model kits.
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>>13400148
>small mug
xbox controller for scale. The box they used for shipping could have been the size of a tissue box.
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>>13400159
No, that warrants a larger box because of the packaging materials.
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>>13400162
it really wouldn't. The box was still way too huge for what it did. Even with packing materials, they could have used a box half the size
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>>13400165
And they didn't because it required a larger one. There are standards they need to stick with. Items certain size needs certain packaging material as per standard. Stop being a faggot and be glad you even had the chance to buy those. If you dislike them because of this event, stop buying from there.
Again; weight matters, not the size. If you're an idiot who doesn't realize you can throw the post package away, that's your damn problem.
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>>13400168
true true. Common sense is hard to beat into oneself. It takes a lot of instances to learn the lesson.

Still, a 60cm long box for a mug that size...
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>>13400172
>>13400168
hey do you guys remember muv-luv?
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>>13400174
Yeah. Soon....I need to practice painting so I can detail my Non-scale kits.
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Do Tamafags actually exist?
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>>13400185
I think the guy who translates KGNE is one.
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>>13400185
I like her as a buddy character, but I don't really get the appeal outside of that and maybe daughteru. Her sex scenes made me feel uncomfortable.
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Just backed $300 (Takemikazuchi), is it worth going to the $400 pledge, for the Daki?
If it was all 3 I would jump at it, but only one for another $100 is ridiculous.
What are the chances the templates will be sold online, from other Daki sellers?
Plus I would lose the Figure.
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New Muv-Luv NA event gives a Yuzuka SSR.
But what the fuck is this art?
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>>13400198
>What are the chances the templates will be sold online, from other Daki sellers?
I think there's a fair chance that people would trace it and sell copies. It wouldn't be the real thing, and probably won't look as good though. Also, you'd be supporting plagiarism.

>Plus I would lose the Figure.
The Takemikazuchi isn't an exclusive item; it's just in a signed box. It's a kit from Kotobukiya that's been out for a little over a year, so you might be able to find one online right now.
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>>13400198
You can buy the kit elsewhere, but the daki is unique. Even if you don't want to use it you can auction it off later and at worst get your money back.
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>>13400216
>>13400224
Will they offer to sell the other daki variants as a bonus, like other kickstarters do?
Of course it will cost extra for each one, but only getting one for the cost is a bit much. They aren't even that unique, the thumbnails on the website for them look like game CGs.
Rather not back $800 for all three either.

What pledge did you guys go? I sort of went with this one, because it was sold out previously.
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>>13400236
I pledged $400 for the reason I stated.
>Will they offer to sell the other daki variants as a bonus
Look at the addons pic.
>They aren't even that unique
Those are just placeholder designs you retard, we're getting new ones.
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>>13400236
>They aren't even that unique, the thumbnails on the website for them look like game CGs.
Those are just examples of Bou's art. We haven't seen any of the daki designs yet.

also there are more than three, now. I think they said they're adding Marimo, but I can't remember the other girls.
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>>13400245
>$200 per daki
What the fuck. It might be cheaper to get the $800 pledge, that's really fucking steep.

>>13400240
>placeholder designs
Yes, I sort of already knew. I was just downplaying their value, so I wouldn't be inclined to buy them. But now I'm conflicted, especially if they will be limited edition.
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>>13400256
the kickstarter rewards aren't necessarily priced to be good value for a consumer. it's kind of like girl guide cookies.
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>>13400262
The next time a girl guide tries to sell me cookies for $50 each, I will laugh in their face.
I already know how ridiculous the high pledges are. I did $300 on another KS and the content was mediocre.
But charging $200, so basically $800 if you want all 4 dakis is fucking ludicrous. It's a pillow case for fuck sake.
They're putting way too much emphasis, on the original artist doing new designs.
I can see some waifufags putting out $400 for one daki of their waifu, which is pretty steep in itself, yet understandable.
But wanting to buy them all for collectors sake, isn't looking like a sensible option.
The most rare and exotic daki in Japan wouldn't be that much. Daki's don't even have collectible value, like an exclusive figure.
If you have the pattern vector, you can mass produce them as much as you like.
Either way I hope they release the actual artwork soon, or lower the price. Notice how the daki tier isn't very popular.
Surely they will release the designs, so people will actually be tempted to purchase them additionally.
Paying $200 for a design you haven't even seen is fucking retarded.
Only someone obsessed with having all of a character's (waifu) merchandise would bother.
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>>13400276
remember, you're buying a successful kickstarter first and foremost.
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>>13400286
It's already successful. They should lower the addon prices when it hits the first goal. Not like it would take away from the main funding.
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Just heard about the kickstarter for the first time and i dont have a credit-card.
I think it's to late to get one now.
Any other options?
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>>13400306
you can buy a visa gift card. they can be used wherever visa cards are accepted.
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Don't know if this has been asked but will all the games and bonus material be uncensored?
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>>13400395
They can't explicitly say it on the KS, but yeah, that's what the answer in the FAQ is implying. The gore won't be censored, but they're going to need to release patches for the H scenes.
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>>13400289
They have to balance production costs too. Lowering the prices would probably fuck up their budget.
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>>13400435
Theres a breakdown of the costs involved in the KS in this podcast. They had keep Ixtl happy too, don't forget.
https://alternativeprojects.wordpress.com/2015/10/16/arg-podcast-1-muv-luv-kickstarter-interview-with-degica-and-updates/
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>>13400489
Isn't Alternative Projects working on the translations? How aren't this just a bunch of shilling on their part to get paid to clean up a script? There's some major conflicts of interests there that put that whole thing under a lot of doubt.
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will even get a happy ending in the franchise, like between Seijuurou and Ilfriede ?
Even though Ilfriede is a airhead?
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>>13400545
That's one way to look at it. They still put out their fan-translation for Aspiration yesterday though, for free, so not sure how deep they'll be working on this. We'll have to see if they release something official other than "yeah we're going to help out"
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>>13400422
That's what I want, really. The H-scenes are terrible and not important. The story is better without them. The only H-scene that's well-made and important is disgusting and disturbing as hell, so I'm glad I don't have to see it again.

>>13400489
What are Ixtl and Degica? I've heard people talking about them, but I'm not sure what they are.
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>>13400611
ixtl is the company that's holds rights to âge's IPs and was made to manage them. Degica is the company responsible of Muv-Luv's localisation.
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>>13400545
If they are shills, they just shot themselves in the foot by releasing another translation then. Kouki isn't going to like that haha.

>>13400611
Them's the company that created Muv-Luv and the company operating the kickstarter. How are you on this board without knowing that?
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>>13400622
So does Ixtl own âge or are they just working together?

>>13400624
>How are you on this board without knowing that?
I'm a big Muv-Luv fan, but I just sort of read the trilogy and left. The business situation of the company that made it didn't interest me. I'm interested in the story, not the company that made it.
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>>13400624
>>13400608
What if they have their approval? They've already straight up said few times around that they're involved with cleaning up the scripts. They're not selling those scripts either. As Degica is paying for lxrecs or whatever script, who is to say they won't do the same with them? All this would just end up being Alternative Projects promoting themselves in hopes of getting paid for fan translations.
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>>13400638
âge and ixtl are owned by a parent company called ACID. ixtl is company that manages the IPs and the business side. âge handles all the production and creation of the products.
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>>13400646
Does ACID do anything except manage âge? Do they own other companies or produce their own VNs?
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>>13400640
Personally I'm fine with Amaterasu and AP getting money for their work, considering that they never accepted donations even when offered. You gotta respect guys like that. If AP ends up working on the retranslation or whatever, I just hope the quality will be improved instead of the other way around. It does need some work.
I pledged 300 myself, and I don't really care since its for the goodies I get. Fucking Destroyer Plush, at last!
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>>13400682
You can read the relationship here.
https://type94.wordpress.com/2012/03/23/ixtl/
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>>13400306
Was it ever explained why they don't wear helmet?
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>>13400682
They're a visual novel publishing company, âge is just one of their divisions.
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>>13400715
Because then you couldn't see you're waifu's face.

I'm sure there's some in-universe justification, but the real reason is that it looks better that way. Just like the fortified suits have a justification but we all know they're fanservice.
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>>13400715
pure extetical, they are all girls
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>>13400730
>>13400735
No, this is the reason.
You can't fucking have Bou's hair with helmets.
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>>13400748
Here's Tama's
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>>13400752
>>13400748
These are some awesome helmets.
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>>13400748
isn't that the rape helmet used in some doujinshi?
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>>13400752
>>13400748
Those are legitimately badass. I know they're a joke, but they're so much cooler than normal helmets.
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>>13400777
The normal helmets are not even all that protective, seeing how they need to be material you can see through.
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>>13400752
>>13400748
They should follow the contours of the hair more closely. The two helmets look almost the same even though Meiya and Tama have quite different hair.

>>13400769
Even if that is true, I don't want to hear about it.
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BETA daki when
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>>13400853
Do you mean a daki of a moe anthropomorphized BETA like in Haiburu or one of the ugly vermin like in the VN?

Or do you mean a cute but not anthropomorphized one like the plushie?
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>>13400880
Yes
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>>13400880
He just wants to fuck a normal looking Soldier-Class.
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>>13400853
I'm gunning for a bed sized Destroyer Sofa myself.
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>>13400909
I'll just stick it in my doorway and scare the folks.
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>>13400909
I want a full-sized pet destroyer I can ride around on.
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>>13400943
How much would you have to feed that fucking thing? That would get expensive. Count me out. I don't have that kind of money since I already spent it all on this Kickstarter.
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>>13400964
It wouldn't eat anything, you'd just need to purchase a generator it saps.
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>>13400964

Technically since the BETA only need to plug into a Reactor you'd only have to hook it up to an electric car socket in your garage, I'm sure it'll all work out.

Assuming you have some means to foot the x9 increase in your monthly electric bill, anyways.
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>>13400984
>x9 increase
It would be WAY more than that.

If I'm getting a Destroyer I should probably invest in a Reactor, too. I'd need one to purify my waifu's coolant anyway.
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>>13400853

I raise you a chomp hat
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>>13401007

Whoops, dropped the image.
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>>13401015
I'm afraid you'd have to be a cute cartoon woman to pull that look off.
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>>13400984
How do they heal from damage? Creating new flesh out of pure energy would be EXTREMELY expensive. They'd lose water over time, too. Wouldn't they need to drink?

I know that they need to recharge at Reactors, but I find it hard to believe they don't eat or drink.
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>>13401043
>I find it hard to believe they don't eat or drink.
Also, many of them have mouths. What are those for? I know that some are made from humans and maybe those mouths are just a holdover, but the Grappler isn't made from a human and it has a mouth.

Speaking of which, why aren't there BETA made from animals. They make some strains from people, but why are there no BETA dogs or sharks or pigeons around?
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>>13401043
>>13401053
Beta don't eat, they don't posses any digestive organ, it's stated by Marimo, during the training
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>>13401059
So can they heal? How do they recover water?
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>>13401072
Osmosis.
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>>13401072
they can move on the moon, they don't need water, they just get recharged with ATP, they don't have any cellular cycle, they are literally fucking zombie
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>>13401043
I remember Destroyers can heal their shells, it's what those purple spots are. They don't heal fast enough that it can heal it within minutes of an attack, but fast enough that you'd probably see the same Destroyer again with a fully healed shell if it survived.
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>>13401104
The purple spots are bullet holes? Why do they form that paw print looking pattern?
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>>13401123
Because it looks cute.
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>>13401141
True. Like many things in Muv-Luv, the REAL reason is that it looks good and the explanation is just rationalization.

Not that I mind.
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>>13401043
>>13401053
I don't know how much you guys know about the human body, but it doesn't heal itself directly from the stuff you eat you know. That stuff is converted into energy inside the body, which fuels cells to replicate for regeneration.
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>>13401123
>The patterns on its shell are scars caused by tissue regeneration; a new Destroyer-class typically has an unblemished green front.

then until now we only saw veteran destroyers
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>>13401123
copy-paste syndrome, caused by lazy Photoshop.

Jokes aside, some of them resemble pawprints, but the impact from 120mm rounds and such on a shell would typically result in wounds spread upwards towards the top of the shell. Since the healing is solid in form but spotty in appearance, you would reasonably get that pawprint appearance.

Though I did say it was copy-paste syndrome, the Destroyer sprites have a fairly dispersed pattern of such wounds. Only a few on the sprite resemble pawprints.

Too bad we never see new, all-green Destroyers mixed in amongst them, though.
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>>13401146
>That stuff is converted into energy inside the body
Do you seriously think that your food is converted into pure energy which is used to synthesize new matter?

No. New flesh comes from chemicals harvested from your food. Making new flesh from pure energy would be STUPIDLY expensive, not to mention impossible with biological hardware. I'm talking BILLIONS of calories to synthesize one gram of flesh.
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>>13401188

I'm no expert in alien physiology but when the power provider in question is a reactor capable of producing rare extrasolar materials, provides power to upwards 200 000 individual creatures in a Phase 4 Hive, concepts like "too much energy required" is not really a point worth pondering over.

That said, while the majority of BETA use teeth to render materials down to size for transport either inside or outside their body, it's not out of possibility for them to convert some into a material storage of sorts for repairs or even for the reactor to give them some materials for repairs during the charging phase.

Or even for BETA too damaged to regenerate back to original form (say, maybe, a Grappler missing one claw and all the legs on one side) to be bashed apart by other BETA and carried back as materials.
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>>13401188
>Do you seriously think that your food is converted into pure energy
Are you fucking retarded or something? A calorie is the energy unit needed to raise the temperature of one kilogram of water by one degree Celsius. A FUCKING ENERGY UNIT. And nevermind that, since food is processed by the body into the final form of ATP, which POWERS the interactions in your CELL when it REPLICATES, THROUGH THE USE OF ATP, which transfers ENERGY to the cell. THAT'S WHAT FUCKING MITOCHONDRIA ARE FOR YOU IDIOT.
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>>13401204
>concepts like "too much energy required" is not really a point worth pondering over
Of course it is. You do not grasp the scales we're dealing with. The BETA are powerful, but if they were so powerful they could build things out of pure energy the entire Earth would be scooped up in a few milliseconds.
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i want to be recycled too
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>>13401225
Like it matters how they work. It's fiction, don't overthink it.
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>>13401230
Somehow I read that in the fairy-style voice from Humanity Has Declined.

I'm going to have some mighty serious non-Euclidean shit for dreams tonight, that's for sure.
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>>13401258
>>13401230
Yosei-san Yosei-san, what happens when people die?
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>>13401221
>A FUCKING ENERGY UNIT.
Yes. And if you've ever read a nutrition label, you know that there's more to food than calories. Your body gets energy from food, but it also converts a large percentage of it into materials to be used. Proteins are converted to amino acids which are used to make proteins. This is why there are ESSENTIAL amino acids: your body cannot produce them from simpler materials and must get them directly from food.

2,000 kcal is enough to produce a few nanograms of matter, which is a few red blood cells. In order to recover from a papercut by turning energy into matter, you'd have to use MILLIONS of days worth of food and have a body capable of handling energies that would put a nuclear reactor to shame.
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>>13401241
I don't really care. I like thinking about these things (it's called fan wank for a reason), but it doesn't really affect my enjoyment.

Right now I'm more offended by the grotesque misunderstanding of physics and biology I see ITT.
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>>13401285
Physics and biology don't matter in life.
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>>13401258
It was kind of nice to see a black guy in a Japanese work who is not a total stereotype. That gate guard was just a soldier. His race was totally ignored.

That's remarkably rare for weebshit.
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>>13401301
Biology has nothing to do with life. No sirree!
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>>13401053
>many of them have mouths. What are those for?
Breaking down and taking in raw materials, you know, like people.
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>>13401307

Alas, we never saw him operating an exo-unit in the final moments to punch all the juice out of Warriors forever.
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>>13401258
Do they really have canonical birthdays?

>>13401329
Have there been any sidestories about infantry? I like the mecha, but pilots are a small minority. I want to know what the others are like.
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>>13401340

There's Tombstone in Steel, about Kurt (or is it Kelt) and his dead waifu.
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>>13401340
>Have there been any sidestories about infantry?
War Ensemble. Not in the Photons.
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>>13401350
Well they're going to be in SM now as well
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>>13401340
>Do they really have canonical birthdays?
Maybe it's because that's remembrance day, and they're heroes that deserve remembering.
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>>13401359

They're throwing in a lot of the side material and prequel shit.
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>>13401350
>holding hands are not under the blanket
That's retarded.
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>>13401340
Don't think they ever got birthdays. November 11 is also the Invasion of Niigata but I don't think that had that big a role to play in the base alert level for that day. I've already forgotten most of the minor details, so parhaps Takeru had some talking moments with them on that day or something. Otherwise I really can't recall.

The last released chronicles (04, I believe) has War Ensemble, which is about an exoskeleton-outfitted infantry unit doing some man-to-freak fighting in a suburban town in Japan. Main character is a girl starts out with her friends and her pulled to do basic soldier duties and her two friends get the short end of the stick at the end of some BETA teeth, the main character later gets picked up by the unit and dons a pretty fitting suit with a high-powered rifle as a subsidiary gift.

Granted, I'm just going off spoilers I picked up around and everywhere, but seeing as it's got an exoskeleton with impromptu battleaxes in it, it can't be half bad by simple virtue of being new material (and the only one of its kind as of now).
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>>13401385
>holding hands
They were building up to this.
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>>13401392
I love the pseudo-pantsu on Muv-Luv outfits. They're totally ridiculous, but they look great.
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>>13401396
Yeah, but outside the blanket and not under it is retarded. Whoever drew that is an idiot.
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>>13401417
Its called showing the action since the readers can't see it under the blankets. Stop being autistic.
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>>13401417
you are the idiot, son.
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>>13401350

Isn't there one romance in SM that doesn't end with one (or both) partners dead and the survivor a traumatic mess.

So far we have:

Beatrix and Jurgen
Iris and Theo
Kurt and Tank Girl
Inghilde and some unnamed dude
Gretel and Karel (or Karl, not sure about pronunciation)
Sylwia and Walter

It's like romance is the ultimate deathflag in ML's world.
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>>13401459
Many of them would have died anyway.

And in the trilogy it's the opposite. Sumika and Takeru died dozens of times, but their romance let Sumika be happy for the first time in years and let Takeru survive.
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>>13401431
There are better ways to showcase it, like having a x-ray part on the blanket. It's stupid to hold your hands out like that.

>>13401440
Dad get off the Internet you're drunk again. Drag your 60-years old ass back to the sick bed and die already.
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>>13401459

Tragic love is a big theme in SM. Not surprising considering the authors forte is romance.
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>>13401503
It actually worked pretty well, too. Such a shame that it's so grimderp. It had some nice qualities.
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>>13401498
Not until i tapped your ass
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>>13401517

Yeah, it has some pretty good themes and parallels running through out it. Many of the characters are foils for other characters. Take Sylwia, who obsessively hunted down and killed her best friend after said friend was forced to rat her out (sounds similiar to the whole Iris vs Beato thing, doesn't it). Or you could look at Lise and foil her against Iris, who had to betray her brother too.
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Given all the crazy wacky shit that kirikiri2 is currently capable of (just look at Mahoyo for example) why is age still using a proprietary clusterfuck like rUGP for its games?
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>>13401619
Because it's a fucking miracle of an engine that can do everything they want it to do, plus have powerful as hell editing tool for it.

Fuck third party engines, all companies should make their own.
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This is a stretch, but does anyone have the parts form from the non scale Shiranui Imperial custom on hand?
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>>13401619
>crazy wacky shit that kirikiri2 is currently capable of
Got any non-spoilery videos as examples? Haven't read Mahoyo yet because my nip isn't good enough yet and would prefer no major spoilers.
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>>13401619
what's going on which all that /a/utism today ?
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>>13401651
>it's a fucking miracle of an engine
What can it do that others can't? VN engines aren't exactly complicated.

It makes WAY more sense for them to standardize and then differentiate themselves on content. If all the companies put the work that went into their private engines into kirikiri2 (or custom forks of it), they'd have way more powerful engines for a way lower price. Suits don't like FOSS, but it's useful for both companies and consumers. Especially for VNs, where the content is vastly more important than the engine.
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>>13401673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-6HbURihgg

might be a teensy tiny bit spoilery but it's all in Korean so try to not think about things and just admire the visuals.
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>>13401700
>wanting less unique pieces
People like you disgust me to no end.
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>>13401704
and the best rUGP has to offer, in comparison
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>>13401673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLf9oWUe2fc

This is well beyond anything in any of the MuvLuv games
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>>13401731
and that's from 2011, i'm sure it went even better now
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>>13401739
If it's so much better now, then why did they have to use FMVs recycled from anime footage in Total Eclipse?
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>>13401704
>>13401735
>moving magic circle
>good enginge
>kek
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>>13401743
what was the point to remade them? return to >>/jp/
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>>13401731
It can also do 3D rendering.
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>>13401751
Skip to 2:36 on the second one.
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Best voice.
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>>13401724
On the contrary. I want MORE unique pieces. And that means focusing on the story and production, not duplicating effort working on dozens of engines that all do the same thing.
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>>13401808
Get the fuck out of here, you rUGP-disrespecting faggot
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>>13401814
rUGP is fine. However, it would be even better if it were released under the GPL and used by everyone. Same goes for kirikiri2: if âge had spent their time contributing to the project, kirikiri2 would have all the strengths of rUGP.

FOSS is fantastic for just this sort of thing. Duplicated effort is a tremendous waste. VNs are not differentiated by their engines. Companies have nothing to lose and a lot to gain by switching to FOSS platforms or making their own platforms FOSS.
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>>13401839
Engines to VN developers is like different game engines for game companies. We wouldn't want anything AGE on any platform that wasn't rUGP
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>>13399319
>>13399326
>卜
>|
>三
>七

You're doing it wrong. Here, let me show you how it's done.

>>13399319
>>マライ・ハイゼンンベルク
>Oberleutnant* Mirai** Heisenberg
*I've observed from sources of admittedly unverifiable veracity that the lesser rank of shoui covers both Unterleutnant and Leutnant. Translation engines seem to agree on this.
**I'm not aware of that being a proper German name or if there exists a proper German name that conforms to the kana.

>>クルト・グリーベル
>Oberfeldwebel Kurt Griebel*
*Griewel also exists as a German surname from what I've observed.

>>ヴィヴィ・シュバインシュタイガー
>Feldwebel Vivi Schweinsteiger

>>ヨアヒム・バルク
No corrections to Romanization necessary. Pronunciation of the rank, on the other hand... (It's pronounced mah-yor)

>>13399326
>>オットー・シュトラウス
No corrections to Romanization necessary.

>>ホルツァー・ハンニバル
No corrections to Romanization necessary.

>>13399425
I had imagined Otto as looking more like Roundel.
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>>13401886
>マライ・ハイゼンンベルク
http://www.behindthename.com/name/marai/submitted
It's just an obscure version of "Maria".
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>>13398291
So no message for hitting the 720k goal?
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>>13401704
>>13401735
Haven't played Total Eclipse so I don't know what the engine as it currently stands is capable of, are there any scenes that compare to the nonsense that the second video pulls off?
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>Alternative Projects
>being paid for anything
>let alone cleaning up the translation of someone that can sort of read Japanese
What a terrifying world we live in.

>>13401886
I like the part where you missed half the fuckups that had already been corrected anyways.

>>13401906
It could be Marei or Marai, the kana don't distinguish between the two it seems. But Marei seems to be much better known in Japan because it's the name of NHK's German presenter (マライ・メントライン).
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>>13401735
Depends how much of it is FMV. Looks a lot like what age does with its OP demos. Mahoyo also took about a thousand fucking years to develop.
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>>13402060
>Depends how much of it is FMV
I'm sure that's easy enough to ascertain, by attempting to extract the resources.
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>>13402084
There aren't any videos in the resources. The SFX is all krkr2.
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>>13401906
>>13402027
I'm an idiot, shoot me. (nb4 volunteers)
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>>13402126
>nb4 volunteers
I don't work for free. Consider me an APPLICANT, not a volunteer.
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>>13402126
I'll do it for hotpockets
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>>13402114
Anyways the short answer as to why they don't change is that age already has a pretty effective scripting engine ported to multiple platforms they know how to use that has a lot of functionality specifically for the content they make and it would be a (time/money costing) pain in the ass to switch without any particular reason.

Has kirikiri2 even been made to work on consoles?
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>>13402180
>>13402126

I'll do it for free.
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Besides Chronicles 1 + 2, are there any other translated VN sidestories?
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>>13401971 https://youtu.be/BpT95VHZgLs well here's the final te battle if you want to compare
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>>13402148
>>13402180
>>13402184
I didn't realize I was so popular.
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>>13402315
Not that technically impressive. What makes Muv-Luv fights so badass is the story and the production values, not the engine.
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>>13402383
yes
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>>13402383
we need Euro Front VN and Anime, no edgy shit like SM
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>>13402455
Agreed. Muv-Luv is obviously going to be dark, but the original trilogy was quite humanistic. SM isn't.
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>>13402468
Is it AgK bad?
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>>13402468

Of course it's going to be extremely misanthropic. Its the origin story of the guy who wants to kill all humans.

>>13402501

Look at >>13393073

It's definitely edgy, especially towards the end, but the characters are way more sympathetic than AkG (yes, even Beatrix).
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>>13402455
>>13402383

This really needs more adaptations. Why in the name of god Âge ever decided to choose an over-edgy and a troubled mess to adapt into anime is still a mystery to me.
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>>13402518

Because it was popular.
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>>13402455
We need ova's of this cutie pies.
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>>13402518

SM's got some positive things going for it.
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>>13402517
>Its the origin story of the guy who wants to kill all humans
lol wut, that's his grand plan? surely he must be fucking happy in TDA
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the best
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>>13402551
>That filter
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>>13402455
You do realize Adoration is basically a fucking fan disk and not representative of the overall content of Duty Lost Arcadia, right?

But hey who doesn't love people making sweeping statements about the quality of things they haven't actually read.
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>>13402594
>euroshits
>only great britain survives and barely
where the fuck they produce their TSFs?
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>>13402607
never told
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>>13402594
sorry if i offended your favorite mature grimdark side-story

>>13402607
well maybe the industry never get fucked up by Margaret Thatcher
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>>13402607
Great Britain used to be an industrial powerhouse, that's how they built their empire
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>>13402625
enough to allow the dirty frenchfags make their crappy Rafales?
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>>13402633
The French moved to Quebec.
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would someone be so kind as to post Back to the future Takeru please
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>739k
wat are the projections?
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>>13402587
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>>13402844
Hard to starboard
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>>13402844
ded.

Every pledge over $1000 is fake and will be retired the last day

Its over
We failed
Ded everything
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>>13402844
Depends what they pull off in the last few days to motivate more pledges. If we get a bump in the last few days that adds up to around a third or half of the first day like a lot of kickstarters do, then 900k is completely doable, but without a end-of-KS bump 900k isn't happening.
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>>13402844
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>>13402844
Complete and total failure.
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>>13402887
Those projections are REALLY unreliable, apparently. The high was $790k just yesterday.
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>>13402844
>Miko Meiya
ngggggghhhhhhhhhh
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>>13402887
wat fucking formula are you using there?
they will need to step up eiter with the pillows or something else to bump those last 160k
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>>13403274
Hype formula
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Does anyone know how we're suppose to add the add-ons to our pledge?

I might get that Sumika t-shirt.
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>>13403274
>>13403008

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wK1Elh_Pje-lSzQWnRY565tlxQq0RNgL7dMnbDklkY8/edit#gid=0

I think the estimate I made here should be correct. $75 on the last 2 days doesn't sound insane.

Basically if there's an average of $10k per day until the 48 hour mark I think we'll hit dat physical codex, and we have only had 9 days under $7k over the whole campaign.
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>>13403627
just add the extra money to your pledge now and you'll be able to spend it on add-ons when the backerkit shop goes up after the kickstarter ends
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>>13403643
yeah the average per day not including the first two is $12.6k, if the kickstarter can keep this level going into the final 48 hours its almost a lock.
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>>13403627
What shirt? You mean the Drill Milky Punch one?

>save in the name of true love
What is that supposed to mean anyway? I never did get that.
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>>13398972
Fucking Chizuru in the shower was kinda hot and I don't even like her.

Also, cockpit sex.
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>>13403720
>Also, cockpit sex.
Meiya in the simulator in UL?
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>>13403646

Thanks anon

I'll add on cash after the daki designs get revealed and make my final decision on whether to stay at the $300 or upgrade.
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>everyone that's not American gets fucked by the kickstarter selling Japanese merchandise with US prices
Thanks Degica.
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>>13403732
Yep. I hope the scenes being uncensored makes them less boring. I agree that the porn in the series is weak but I didn't play for the porn anyway.
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>>13403732
>>13403752
yeah, that one was hawt
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>>13398291
So if the $900k is reached, does the $150 Vita-tier also come with that figure?
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>>13403858
yes
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so there's supposed to be some omake/sidestories involving anthropomorphic BETA in the first two volumes of Chronicles, but I can't seem to find them. Where are they?
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>>13403993
There is a lewd one with Alt. Chronicles 02.
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>>13404010
Huh, where? I must be blind because I can't find it anywhere in the menu.
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>>13404018
It's in another application. Its not on the main menu.
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>>13403993
>>13404018
I'm pretty sure you have to clear TDA before it shows up. That's how it worked for me at least.
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>>13404042
Oh, welp I guess I'll get on that.
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>>13404042
>>13404046
Reminder of best girl guys.
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>>13404053
She's the cutest and desperately needs more art.
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>>13404147
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>>13403701
doing things to save people you love I guess
Kinda the point of Alternative
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>>13403720
>cockpit sex.
That shit triggered me so hard
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>>13404042
>like 3 CGs
>10,000 lines of dialogue
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Update 13

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/muvluv/muv-luv-a-pretty-sweet-visual-novel-series/posts/1392130
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>>13404247
I wouldn't really call that an "update"
just keep giving more shekels
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>>13404247
DOES THIS MEAN WE GET AYU MAYU TRANSLATED?
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>>13404440
No. There's a literal list there of what stories are being TLed.

1. Muv-Luv Supplement

a. Sakura no Hana ga Saku Mae ni - 桜の花が咲く前に Muv-Luv After Episode
b. Muv-Luv ~Another Episode Collection~

2. Ayu-Mayu Alternative

a. Atonement (Shokuzai - 贖罪)
b. Inheritance (Shoukei - 承継)

3. Muv-Luv Chronicles 01

a. Chicken Divers (チキン・ダイバーズ)
b. Rain Dancers (レイン・ダンサーズ)

4. Kimi ga Ita Kisetsu (君がいた季節)

a. Confessions (Kokusaku - 告白)

1. Muv-Luv Chronicles 02

a. Aspiration - (Shoukei - 憧憬)

2. Muv-Luv Chronicles 03

a, Resurrection - (Saitan - 再誕)

3. Muv-Luv Altered Fable

a. Kagayaku Toki ga Kienu Mae ni - かがやく時空(とき)が消えぬ間に
(this is the main component of Altered Fable)
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>>13404440
No. We only get the stories listed, not the whole thing.
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>>13404444
So, given this list, the only VN material that will be left untranslated (if we include AP's work) are TDA 02+03, TE, SM, and Ayu-Mayu Alternative, correct?
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>>13404562
War Ensemble, Last Divers, Haiburu, Warinaki.
Joushin Eishi Cryska 1+2+Ex
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>>13404562
And Akane Maniax, but that has an anime.
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>>13404619
Akane Mainax is technically a Kiminozo side story, isn't it?
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>>13403741
That's so cute. I want one.
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>>13404627
Not technically, it is. Akane Maniax has more to do with KGNE than Muv-Luv as it shows how Akane gets over the events in it, even thou the OVA was supposed to lead into a Muv-Luv anime. The OVA shows Hayase route is canon one
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Did Meiya's voice actor fall off the face of the earth?
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>>13404806
She died in a car accident.
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>>13404776
The KGNE anime showed it before. And the Akane Maniacs just went with it.
There was also a short teaser for a ML anime at the end of ayu-mayu gekijou (which in fact had so much more to do with ML than KGNE), in which Sumika was given the title of the new Age heroine.
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>>13404823
Haruka may have been the heroine, but she lost like a bitch she is.
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>>13404827
>Haruka
>a bitch
Your mum is a bitch.
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>>13404834
Jokes on you, she's dead.
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>>13404812
r-really? ;_;
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>>13404846
Just like your waifu,
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>>13404854
They can always make more Shiranuis.
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>>13404860
Have some Shiranui made by my waifu's dad
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>>13404827
She wasn't carproof enough for it. Real Age heroines don't fear something as trivial as a car accident.
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>>13404440
>>13404444
>STILL no Haiburu
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>>13404944
Haiburu a shit.
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>>13404776
To Extra, not to any other particular universe.

>>13404806
She was never really on it to start with.
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>>13404812
Please be joking, anon ;_;
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>>13404812
I can't find news about her death.
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>>13405045
Well, that's because she's still alive. She just stopped being a seiyuu.
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>>13405054
Do you need to be such a turboweeaboo? You can just say voice actress.
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>>13405054
Still on Mausu's site mind you
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>>13405063
seiyuu is literally faster to type
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>>13405185
VA is even faster.
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>>13403778
Is Meiya supposed to be cosplaying SEIBAH in that last scene?
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>>13405197
this isn't an english native series, dumbshit
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>>13405231
>Being this much of a weeaboo
The words mean literally the exact same thing.
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>>13405234
Your point is? We will call them however we want to call them, faggot
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>>13405054
i want to hear her voice. muv-luv anime to bring her back when?
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>>13405234
It's like the difference between typing "baker" and "patisserie"
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>>13405405
No, I mean literally.
声 = voice
優 = actor
Western VAs are also called 声優 in Japan.
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>>13405412
yes, let us refer to Disney cartoons as "anime" then. Let us also refer to "anime" as "cartoons".

Technically we could.

In practice it's just not done
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>$750k
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>>13405429
Still not enough for the physical codex.
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>>13405467
you know your math
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>>13405467
>he thinks 750k is a smaller number than 900k
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>>13405229
yes
can anyone translate it?
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>>13405591
They're just yelling move names.
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>>13405429
At this rate we will hit 900k a day and half after the Kickstarter ends.
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>>13405716
how many people in these threads have actually gave money?
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>>13405723
make a poll and find out
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>>13405716
We can only hope so.
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>>13405723
i'm still waiting the payday
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>>13404599
Oh right, I forgot the rest of Chronicles 4. I hope they sneak them into the photons ports somehow.
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>>13405716
>>13405723
I'm just hoping those 500+ $1 backers are actually waiting to put their real money down on the last day.

Seriously, what's the point of even contributing $1? All you get for it is an e-mail every week or so. You can't even really say you "supported the project" because $1 means nothing.
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>>13405725
I have made a poll.

``More information´´ means either waiting to figure out if we are going to get the 900,000 $ goal or to see how the dakis will look like or anything along that line
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>>13405810
Boy do i feel like a fucking moron now, i forgot to post it

http://strawpoll.me/5829255
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>>13405810
So, it's outdated by now.
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>>13405825
six minutes shouldn't be long enough to outdate it
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>>13405823
where is the >I ain't supporting this shit
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>>13406032
That should actually have been an option, sorry about that
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>>13405054
They'd probably be able to bring her back for future Muv-Luv content, right?

I didn't much like Meiya or her voice, but it would be weird to adjust to a new actor.
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>>13406039
>I didn't much like Meiya or her voice
fuck you
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>>13403778
>>13405591
Panel 1
Sumika: DRILL MILKY PUNCH!
Takeru: GORIAS!?
Panel 2
Tama: MIKI BOOMERANG!
Panel 3:
Meiya: EX-CALIBUR!
(ruby text on "Sword of Promised Victory" of course)
Panel 4:
Ayamine: Not good enough.
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>>13405405
Patisserie is a bakery. Patissier is the baker.
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>>13406116
I really don't get why people like her. She's just kind of boring.
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>>13406177
People have their own kinks. People who dislike others because they don't like the same thing are the cancer.
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Does anyone know why some call it a Takemikazuchi and others Takemikaduchi? It's the same with Chizuru and Chiduru, z and d seems to be interchangeable.
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>>13406209
I think you can DISLIKE someone for having different tastes. If someone's tastes are totally different from your own, you may not be able to get alone. But disliking someone is no reason to be rude.
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>>13406227
Silly transliteration rules. Still pronounced like a z.
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>>13406227
Romaji are an approximation. Japanese uses some sounds which aren't exactly like English ones.

But it's Takemikazuchi and Chizuru, since Takemikaduchi and Chiduru look and sound stupid in English.
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>>13406209

Not waifuing both
>Sumika and Meiya
or
>Cryska and Yui
or
>Beatrix and Irisdina

I never did get waifu wars; usually both girls are amazing in there own way.
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Why doesn't Muv-Luv KS collect money with Paypal too? Didn't Clannad do that, so people without credit cards could apply? Not that it concerns me, but just curious.
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>>13406227
Takemiduchi and Chiduru use old romanization system. They are technically correct.
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>>13406246
It's not like I made a decision. I just don't like Meiya very much.

A lot of this comes from the fact that waifus were originally a joke. It used to be that people would treat them like their actual wives and say fapping to other girls or having multiple waifus is cheating, gently mocking themselves for being weebs in love with cartoon characters. And then the newfags took that joke seriously.
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>>13406272
>And then the newfags took that joke seriously.
That always happens, sadly. Act like a retard, and you will end up in company of retards.
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>>13406272
Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company.
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>>13406272
Are you just the world's laziest shitposter or what?
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>>13406280
I do like that quote. I have no idea who said it, though. It's been attributed to everyone under the sun, but I can't imagine any of the people it's been attributed to saying that.
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>>13406246

>Waifuing Twizzlers Slut, Boring Expendable Slav, or Sociopathic Rapist Stasi Shitstain.

No thank you, you can keep your shit taste to yourself
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>>13406304
There is no need to be so mean. We're all friends here!

I'm sure your waifu is beautiful. Have a nice day!
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>>13406304

>Sociopathic Rapist Stasi

She never had anyone raped though. In fact, her specific line on the matter after capturing the 666 was:

「エロい拷問は禁止です」
"Erotic torture is prohibited."

That whole Pham rumor was baseless shit circulated on Animesuki and /m/ (just like giving her responsibility for having Lise broken, or killing Theo's family and torturing him).

She's not as horrible as people seem to want her to be; that's Axmann's job.
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I miss 2011 when people knew what fucking spoiler tags are.
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>>13406369
Muv-Luv is over ten years old at this point. No need for them.
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>>13406361
Anyway the Stasi's game wasn't so much rape for rape's sake as it was dehumanization, isolation, sleep deprivation, repetitive 12 hour long interrogations, and randomly switching lights on and off.
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>>13406369

>Decade old porn game
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>>13406382
Are you intentionally being retarded
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>>13406382
The only things that are generally known about Muv-Luv by those who don't follow it is "TE anime was shit" and "those fucking waifufags". If I can have no idea what happens in episode 7 of season 2 of the Game of Thrones, a show absolutely EVERYONE is watching, then there are probably people who have no idea about Twizzlers or CHOMP in a visual novel which most people are too lazy to read/install.
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>>13406386

ML's stasi operates differently than RL stasi, mostly because Beatrix's father "reformed" them, turning them from domestic spies into brutal state enforcers. So instead of sleep deprivation, or cold rooms, the stasi now fold bones or force prisoners to commit murder. Then you get guy's like Axmann who tortures children just because he gets off on it getting commendations. Even Beatix uses tactics that RL stasi would blanch at.
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>>13406394
It's not a decade old in the English world. It was only translated in late 2011. Also, not everyone has read it.

That said, this is a thread specifically about Muv-Luv. You'd have to be an idiot to not expect spoilers. No one who hasn't read it should be ITT.

We should still avoid spoilers about the spinoffs.
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>>13406407

One thing that always confused me, Beato's responsibility was hunting for dissenters and deserters. Wouldn't it make more sense for her to be Volkspolizei Diensteinheit IX or something rather than stasi guard? In RL, the Volkspolizei were the ones who actually went after NVA deserters and anti state terrorist, not the guard regiments.
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>>13406386

Sounds a lot like standard interrogation practices in modern America.
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I'm new at this Kickstarter shit, so can someone tell me how that backerkit thing works? People who pick it, do they get some message little before KS ends that they need to choose now what they get? Or do they get to choose after KS ends? If it's after, does that money count towards final stretch?
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>>13406467
You get what the tier lists what you get.
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>>13406447
Nah. It's more like our practices in military prisons overseas. Americans don't do that to American citizens inside the country. We do it to brown people abroad.

The American justice system is fucked in many ways, but the interrogations aren't blatantly coercive these days.
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>>13406487

Yeah, I meant military/CIA techniques, not law enforcement.
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> Figma gets thrown in if it hits 900k
That'd be nice, but 150k in 9 days?
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>>13406501
Can be done. It must be done.
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>>13406501

What happens if you break the ahoge off?
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>>13406501
I really don't like figmas. This is a figure that will go on a shelf, not something I'll play with. The joints look weird, particularly on the chest and ass.

Oh, well, The swappable ahoge is nice. And at least she looks happy, unlike the other Sumika models.
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>>13406518
It would be extremely painful.
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>>13406518
It's exchangeable
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>>13406518
Hot glue it back on.
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>>13406518

You get a free wish.
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>>13406529
Yup. If you break it off, you just replace it with the superior heart-shaped ahoge.
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>>13406501
Too bad we can't choose a different character for the figure to be of; Sumika's not my favorite.
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>>13406584
They're probably using this occasion to get rid of leftovers from the X360 double pack. Still it's a nice gesture to give theme like this if the final goal is reached.
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>>13406496
You realize the Geneva Conventions do not cover terrorists, right?
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>>13406584
This. I'd have upped my pledge to $800 if it included PVC Meiya/Sumika. I just don't like figmas in general.
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>>13406501

Although she is supposed to be my waifu, I still don't understand why you guys love to have figurines or figma's. Do you guys love to play with it like little kids? Do you just put them on a shelf or behind glas so you can look at it every day while thinking "Well, I still have other issues but at least I have got these kind of useless chinese figurines and without any irony, they are probably just made in China anyway like pretty much everything else to look at"??

Seriously, what's the use? Even with Daiki's or Gunpla I can kind of understand why people would get them but why a bunch of useless plastic dolls?
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>>13406584
It does make sense, though. Sumika is definitely the main heroine, followed by Meiya.
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>>13406621

So? I wasn't make a moral statement on it.
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>>13406621

But the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Which the US voted for) applies to all human beings, no matter their race, nationality, etc.

And Article 5 of that states "No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment."
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>>13403627
>>13403741
Which manufacturer made those T-shirts and when did they were sold? They're so cute I want one.
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>>13406602
It won't be reached. KS is dead we should be at 820k by now if we plan on hitting 900k.
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>>13406625
Why do people have TVs? They're useless too. Or how about any sort of physical belongings beyond what is required to live? Useless as well.

People buy things like this because it makes them happy.
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>>13406625
Same reason you're posting that picture: it's nice to look at.
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>>13406623

You can get the Meiya and Sumika figures for pretty cheap on mandrake and sometimes Amazon.
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>>13406518
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>>13406652
If there's one thing I've learn from giving way too much money to way too muck KS campaigns it's that the only moment you know with certainty the pledged amount is when it's over.
Kicktraq and other metric predictions are BS, you cannot predict total pledged amount as the mechanics beyond what push peoples to gives their money is completely chaotics.

It may be reached and it may not, but whatever the auto-proclaimed experts out there may say, we won't know before either the end of the campaign or before its reached.
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>>13406646
You're right; we should just execute them on the spot.
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>>13406715
We won't even know if it's reached. If we get to $901k, someone might retract a big pledge and put us right below.

All we can say with any certainty is that we won't lose $30k in funding overnight. We're getting the Photons and everything below that. How much higher we'll go is anyone's guess.
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>>13406735
That would probably be better than how the US has treated terror suspects until now.
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>>13406742
Annoying them to death?
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>>13406739
I doubt they'd say that the stretch wasn't reached if it somehow ends at $899k
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>>13406800
A dollar is a dollar.
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>>13406780
I was talking about the beatings, sexual humiliation, chaining to the ceiling, "pulpification" of extremities, and denial of medical care.

I suppose you COULD call necrotic limbs an annoyance, in which terror suspects were often annoyed to death.
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>>13406625
There are peoples who likes those and are quite inventive in how they stage their figures. Go see what the jolly fellows at /toy/ can do.
I'm a bit jalous of them, they really seems to have fun with it. I've got a few action figures (some Eva and TSF revoltech, the Alt and the Weiß SR Chogokin) and all I manage do is gives them a nice pose a put them on the shelf above my desk. I can't make funny or epic scenes with those, nothings comes up.

So If I get a Sumika figma with my collector box, it will probably stays in the box for good. But its a nice thought for those who likes these things.
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>>13406829
Starting to sound like something out of tabloids.
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>>13406836
It IS pretty over the top, isn't it? There are some really evil people out there.
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>>13406857

Usually the greatest evil is achieved systemically and not individually. When a system makes it acceptable and even encourages normally neutral and even good people into committing atrocities, that's when the truly nasty shit can start happening.
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>>13406896
Murken media is generally pretty anti-Murken in this day and age; if all this is going on why aren't they pimping it out like a two-dollar whore? That shit's a gold mine for ratings.
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>>13406932
>That shit's a gold mine for ratings.
There's a documentary about this subject called Taxi to the Dark Side. It won an Oscar and a Peabody award and has 100% critical approval on Rotten Tomatoes.

It made $280,000 GROSS profit.

Yeah. Pointing out rampant corruption and human rights abuses sure is lucrative.
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>>13406932
>Murken media is generally pretty anti-Murken in this day and age
Are you out of your fucking mind?
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>>13406932
https://index.rsf.org/#!/
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>>13406948
News media, bruh. That's where everyone goes to get their fix.

>>13406962
No, I'm quite serious.
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>>13406965
Those who have the media's favor are just as anti-Murken; it suits their purposes to exploit this for all it's worth.
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>>13406973
>News media, bruh. That's where everyone goes to get their fix.
Exactly. And that's the problem. The big news media is not concerned with the truth. They're concerned with ratings.

Where will you go? Fox News? MSNBC? CNN? The first two would lie through their teeth and CNN wouldn't take time away from the celebrities.

Forcing viewers to accept that horrible evil is being done in their name is NOT a good way to get ratings. People do not want to feel responsible for innocents being tortured, raped, and killed.
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>>13406973

News media manages to be very anti-American while spewing a ton of pro-American rhetoric. They're mouthpieces for the wealthy and powerful, misdirecting the American people from major problems with pro-American propaganda or nonissues and spinning stories to either prop themselves up or diminish another's power.
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>>13406982
So the fact that a film with 100% critical approval, an Oscar, and a Peabody to its name made $280,000 GROSS profit proves that covering this topic is highly lucrative.

Uh-huh.
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>>13407004
>The big news media is not concerned with the truth. They're concerned with ratings

Nothing gets ratings (or reactions) like scandal.

>implying CNN isn't just as much a liar

Laughable.

>Forcing viewers to accept that horrible evil is being done in their name is NOT a good way to get ratings

Nonsense; people LOVE that shit!

>People do not want to feel responsible for innocents being tortured, raped, and killed

Yet we can't shut up about it.

>News media manages to be very anti-American while spewing a ton of pro-American rhetoric

The sod am I reading? All I see is the media and the politicians they're in bed with denigrating (if not flat-out demonizing) the constitution and rule of law and everyone who insists on adherence thereto.
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Now back to our regularly scheduled programing
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>>13407027
>Nothing gets ratings (or reactions) like scandal.
This is not a scandal.
In Watergate or the NSA spying scandal, the American people were the victims. They were up in arms about Other People hurting them.
The American people are not the victims here. They're the guilty ones, and they don't want to hear it.

>Nonsense; people LOVE that shit!
$280,000 gross.

>Yet we can't shut up about it.
You yourself have admitted that you've never seen it on mainstream news media.
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>>13407011
Is profit the only motive you can think of? It's about more than just monetary gain; it's about opportunism and exploitation. Piss people off enough and they become easy to manipulate. It becomes easy to sucker them into throwing away their rights for the blanket cause of doing what's "right". It's what social justice is about, after all.
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If the kickstarter ends on something like 850,000 $ what happens with the excess money?
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>>13407055
>They're the guilty ones, and they don't want to hear it.

I don't recall them having given the go-ahead for this sort of thing.

>You yourself have admitted that you've never seen it on mainstream news media.

The country isn't exclusively media, genius.
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>>13407055
I'm not going to butt into the argument, but who the fuck pays money for documentaries?
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>Friend just finished reading the PTSD arc
>now back in ALTverse, he's come to terms with the fact this is a WORSE CASE SCENARIO novel and everyone is likely to die
>tfw I can no longer get enjoyment from his suffering as he's hit rock bottom
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>>13407055
We've thrown the word "torture" around on the media for years over far less. Why then wouldn't we be blowing the whistle on this?
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>>13407075
>I don't recall them having given the go-ahead for this sort of thing.
There were people raped, tortured, and killed in your name. Not only do you not care, you pretend it never happened. Yes, you're guilty.
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>>13407094
We have been. It's just that most people didn't care. The NSA collecting metadata about phone calls is a horrible human rights abuse that makes people rise up and demand change, but systematic rape, torture, and murder of innocent people gets a shrug and some mumbling about bad apples.
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>>13407091
The 00 Unit arc and the first half of the following are meant to lift your spirits back up.
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>>13407091
You the guys with the steam chat screenshots?
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>>13407121
The 00 Unit arc did pretty well at raising my spirits, except for the rape scene in the middle.
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>>13407065
hookers and blow
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>>13407138
I'm not talking that arc.
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>>13407126
yeah, show's over I guess.
then again, it's REALLY hard to wrap your head around "everyone dying".
Like, even having been previously spoiled, I was still shocked at just how much "everybody" actually means
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>>13407138
The only reason that scene made me mad was because it only showed sexual CGs when they could've made it Chomp 2.0 in terms of gore/being traumatizing. Felt like they wanted the CGs in that scene to be for people with a tentacle