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Why was Turn A so much better then every other Gundam?

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Why was Turn A so much better then every other Gundam?
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I mean, aside from pic related that is.
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Because Tomino had his shit together when he made it. Plus Bandai gave him the 50 episodes he needed to make it work.
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>>12504659
>aside from pic related
You shut your whore mouth.
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Sieg Zeon!

> I don't see know GMs in the far future, Feddie Scum.
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>>12504656
Silly anon, Turn A IS every other Gundam.
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>>12504714
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>>12504733
lost to Zakus, despite being from a much later age than the OYW.

>Sieg Zeon!
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>>12504684
>You shut your whore mouth.

He meant aside from that reason you shit head. As in why else beyond Harry is it awesome. Learn to fucking read.
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>>12504714

They were so shitty that the nanomachines from moonlight butterfly didn't think of them as technology.
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>>12504779
Very well, I have brought shame upon myself.
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Well, first you have to realize that it isn't.
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>>12504656
It came at a rare time when Tomino was not considering suicide while not high on antidepressants.
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I'm assuming that all the people that claim that 0079/Z/Turn etc are the best Gundam have not watched 0080?
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>>12505630
>0080
You mean the one with the annoying little boy that ruins everything and hopefully kills himself in his adolescence?
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>>12505630

The one with the most annoying protagonist in Gundam history, and a sum total of 3 action scenes?
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>>12505586
did you miss the parts where they were buried underground . where the nano machines (presumably) couldn't get too?
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>>12504714

>you came to the wrong neighborhood
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>>12504672

Tomino requested only 26 for G-Reco though, because of worries over his own health. It wasn't Bandai screwing with him, it was him refusing to work with other directors on more than single episodes so that even if his health failed the product could be given the screentime it really needed. The blame for that is all on Tomino by all accounts.
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>>12504762

It was also a non-Gundam piloted by someone who was on his first sortie and didn't even know enough to keep an eye on his ammo counter so that even quickly ran out.
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>>12505692

Was it so hard to divide it into 2 26ep seasons?
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>>12505630

I've seen and loved 0080, but I think Turn-A is better personally. 0080 is great at telling it's story and I actually like Al, I just prefer the atmosphere, characters and designs among other things in Turn-A.

>>12505681

Pretty sure it's explicitly stated in show that machines like the Zaku, Cannon Ilfuerto (or however you spell it) and even the Willgame were all covered in a material that protected it from the Moonlight Butterfly. It was shown to be quite brittle if I recall, so was presumably useless as conventional armor, but the nanomachines were probably programmed not to touch it. Also, they were buried underground upon discovery and possibly even pre-Moonlight Butterfly so it's possible the nanomachines simply don't go underground when searching for stuff to eat.
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>>12505695

No idea, ask Tomino. Pretty sure there's been interviews where he's said he only asked for 26 episodes due to feeling that's all he was up to. You'd think a split season or co-directing with someone else would be a reasonable choice in such a situation, but he didn't do it for some reason.
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>>12505681
Actually the novel states that the reason random MS weren't dissolved is because some of the nanos malfunctioned and switched from "disassemble" to "preserve". The DG Cells created a whole new surface for the earth, everything was permeated with them. It's not so much a case of them being too far underground when the nanos covered the earth, it's more like the nanos resurfaced the earth on top of the preserved MS.
This is why all those craters from X went away.
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>>12505695
I don't think Bandai would've committed to this unless the series had been a hit from the get-go.
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00 was better, at least the first season was. Turn A is your typical Tomino garbage, except worse because now we have a protagonist who is actually mentally retarded.
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>>12505783

> Saying Loran is a mentally retarded protagonist
> While comparing it to OO

Neither is actually mentally retarded, but Soran is closer to the mark with his massive PTSD than Loran by a long shot. Nothing Loran does is even particularly stupid to earn that gall.
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>>12505783

Loran is just boring as fuck
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>>12505793
Setsuna actually seems to like, act like a rational human being when confronted though, like when he rejects the Thrones bullshit, and how he has dialogues with Marina where he seems to actually have opinions and values for himself.

Loran is mostly just there, and he stumbles into shit and only cares about his queen, having not story and not really mattering at all besides being the guy in the Gundam.
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>>12505783
>00 was better.

Turn A didn't turn into fairydust Gundams until late into the series. 00 was just faggotry all the way through.
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>>12505812

None of which makes him mentally retarded or someone who reacts inhumanely to events. It makes him boring perhaps (though I disagree), but that's a different thing.
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>>12505630
I have and it's right up there with Turn A for me.
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>>12504656
Because you're a plebian who doesn't really like Gundam, as evidenced by the fact that your favorite is the one that is least like every other Gundam show.

Really it's the much maligned Moon Moon episodes of ZZ stretched out into a fifty episode series.
Let that soak in for a second:
Your favorite show is the spiritual successor to the most hated arc of the most hated UC Gundam series.
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It isn't. 0080 is better, 0079 is right behind it, and then comes Zeta. There's a gap in quality after these four, though.
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>>12505815
Was it 00 or Seed where they had the Aliens defeated by Understanding?
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>>12505692
Bullshit, it had 26 episodes because Sunrise had to share its animators with CHICKEN HOW ARE YOU.
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>>12506299

Not according to Tomino. Also, it makes no sense to assume that given that Sunrise has multiple studios putting out shows at any one point on a regular basis.
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>>12506226
>0080 is better
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It isnt. It's actually really mediocre. There are really mixed opinions about it, and fighting who is right is retarded. It's alright as standalone, but bad as Gundam show.
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>>12506237
That was the 00 movie: Awakening of the Trailblazer, which sucked pretty hard due to lame T-1000 knock-off aliens and sudden flower ending. It actually ran contrary to the whole message of 00 of humans needing to unite, become more accepting of those who are different, become enlightened, etc because in AOTB all that really mattered was that Setsuna's new gundam could teleport and mind-meld; societal development had nothing to do with the story at all..

Neither the 00 or SEED series had aliens. There was that one fossilized whale found on one of Jupiter's moons in SEED, but with the former AU's now being a single timeline that could easily just be from a jovian colony in a previous era (remember they even had whales on the moon in Turn A) instead of an alien spacewhale.

I've read that the concept of a post-series film where man first encounters aliens was originally going to be done with SEED but was scrapped and then later recycled in the 00 story, but I read it on 4chan so...
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>>12506330
>It's an alright show, but a bad _________
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Gundam sure is a revered franchise considering that half the TV shows under the franchise banner are boring garbage.
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>>12506448
who are you quoting
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>>12506456
Paraphrasing everyone on this still acting like Gundam is any good.
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>>12506494
hello fellow! I also love A/Z and Cross Ange! Gundam doesn't have enough battles imho and the story is too complex, but I do love VVV as well as knights of sidonia.
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>>12504656
Simple

>Music
It's kanno, whatever soundtrack she touches is gold

>Animation
I can't actually think of any QUALITY in Turn A, it really looks good throughout. Also despite being slow and pretty pacifist the show still manages to have exciting fight scenes with good animation

>Design
Some of the best designs mixed with old favourites. Turn A and X both stand out as amazing suits

>Different type of story
It uses time wisely to build concepts and build the world which are different from the average gundam. It isn't really a war story (half the time the sides aren't really at war or on cease fire) so again stands out from most Gundams. Basically the only Gundam thing about the story is the war is bad stuff. It takes the base ideas and does something completely different instead of "This is gundam with all the gundam stuff but now newtypes are called *spins wheel* coordinators"

>Sochie
I'm going to marry her
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>tfw turn A isn't even one of my top 5 gundams when I think about it
Whelp guess I'm just a dirty hipster, beautiful show though.
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>>12506535
Go on then, but if victory and zz are up there then you are just being contrary.

I get people liking those 2 but they don't deserve to be anyone's favourite
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>>12506549
no order
G, 0080, 0079, Zeta, 00 S1
if we look at 00 has a whole Turn A passes it. First build fighter series is right up there for me too.
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>>12506559
>00 S1
Most of the problems in S2 started in S1 really, it's a slow creep but rewatching it you see it happening. It also never ends up using the setting especially well
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>>12506571
I won't say it's perfect, nothing in this franchise is, but I appreciate the first season of 00 more for trying to innovate (no pun intended) the franchise going forward. It tried a new style setting and it worked for them. Unfortunately it failed to leave a legacy so far. Though, there were clearly a lot of things changed before the start of the second, and end of the first. For instance, Graham/Bushido was wearing a standard federation uniform instead of A-Laws at the end of season 1 time skip. That should imply something right there.
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>>12506535
>OK, Acguy ero-images GET
>Sasuga aniki
What the fuck.
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>>12506678
>dat feel when we'll never get a slice of life of the Turn brothers trying to pick up chicks
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>>12506624
Are we really gonna reach the 10th anniversary of 00 without there being a Gundam show even just remotely close to being as good as 00? AGE was crap, G-Reco was crap, and Build Fighters, while neat, falls more into something like SD Gundam, an odd side show.
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>>12506678
I'm dying, I had no clue that's what it said, and I've been posting it for years.
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>>12506494
C'mon man. Everyone knows Gundam was never good.
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>>12506678
Turn Bros like shortstacks i guess?
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>>12506678
>cheating on Kapools
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>>12506699
>Likes 00 and BF
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>>12506511
Not him but are you really this deluded by psuedo anime elitism? Watch more anime than just Gundam and maybe you'll realize how Gundam is repetitive bullshit made to sell toys.
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If nothing else, Turn A has the best OST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYuR6_tF8vs&index=5&list=PL8A3B479648B3ABE8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2f5rgTkA0I
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>>12506934
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>>12506934
This, that's what made Build Fighters so good. It didn't try to pretend it was anything else but a toy commercial.
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its really just an overall delightful experience.
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>>12506938
Good evening can you show me how complex and deep this outdated cartoon Gundam is?
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>>12506958
>things have to be complex and deep to be enjoyable
tipping awfully hard here
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>>12506962
Its just Pocahontas. Loran belongs to the Moon Tribe, but finds companionship on the rivaling side. Befriends both, wants neither to hurt each other. lots of light heartiness and fun and cuteness, then a notable character dies tragically to change a lot of feelings.
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>>12506962
>hello fellow! I also love A/Z and Cross Ange! Gundam doesn't have enough battles imho and the story is too complex, but I do love VVV as well as knights of sidonia.

Using other shows received worse than Gundam on /m/ to justify shitting on someone shit talking your favorite "complex" show

>Gundam doesn't have enough battles imho and the story is too complex,

haha yeah :)
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>>12506987
Problem with Gundam isn't that the story is complex, the problem is that there barely is a story and most of the shows go absolutely nowhere for long stretches of time without any progression at all because they have the timeslot for a whole year and need to show off the entire new collection of toys.
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>>12507056
>i watch anime with substance that's not toy commercials!
name one
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>Oh, a Turn A thread, I am always up to talk about this great show!
>>12505783
>>12505812
>>12506156
>>12506330
>>12506448
>>12506934
>>12506958
>>12507056
Jesus fuck, never mind. What eve happened here? Everybody, just leave this thread.
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>>12507284
You can have both. Both Votoms and Macross have actual stories with characters who have motivations beyond just being whiny.

Meanwhile Zeta Gundam starts out with Kamille joining the rebel army because he's tired of being called a girl.
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>>12507293
How about your defend your shit instead of running off.
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>>12504656
Mobile Suit Gundam, 0083, Turn A, War in the Pocket and 00 are all really good shows. The rest of the franchise not so much.
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>>12507348
>0083
>really good show
You done fucked up.
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>>12507306

His family life being totally dysfunctional had more to do with that, the having a girls name thing is just that icing on the cake that makes him flip because he is constantly at the boiling over point.

Kamille just kind of idiotically thows himself into the situation, but he develops allot as a character. It's interesting because by episode 30 he is really starting to grow a conscious about all the enemies who he killed. He started off hardly caring but the war starts wearing him down and as his netwype powers grow he gets more and more sensitive to the situation, while also becoming less erratic.

Turn A is the best Gundam mainly for the character interaction and strong overarching plot. It's only downside are some goofy characters like Corin, by Tomino makes it work. Brilliant art and music, strong fight scenes when they do happen( watching Loran go at it with the two balls on chains is great), DIANA AND KIHEL, typical but well played Tomino apocalypse scenario about how man is going to doom himself over and over again. It's just a really great show in terms of Gundam animations I would say the top 5 would be

Zeta = Turn A, CCA, 0079, Victory
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>>12507352
Its got the best romance plot in the series and the one sided rivalry between Kou and Gato is really interesting. A Gundam being a tragedy for once was also really interesting.
Also, good animation and soundtrack.
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>>12507312
>hey guys I'm gonna make a thread to talk about something
>HEY FUCK YOU GUYS YOUR TASTE IS SHIT LMAO ENJOY BABBY CARTOONS FOR CHILDRON
>dude fuck off we just want to talk about turn a
>LMAO DEFEND YOUR CHILDRON CARTOON YOU MANCHILD LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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>>12507371
>Its got the best romance plot
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>>12507371

>Its got the best romance plot in the series

Are you retarded?
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I'm lazy and want to watch Turn A even though I havent seen any Gundam series yet, I have it and 8th MS Team downloaded though.
Should I go watch at least 0079 before Turn A? Would I appreciate it more?
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>>12507371
>Its got the best romance plot in the series
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>there are people who legitimately believe 00 qualifies as top tier Gundam
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>>12507466

I think he means Kou and Kelly.

It's admittedly rather bold to switch things up when it comes to the unlikely friend/lover/soul mate piloting the gigantic killer robot.
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>>12507531
I cannot stress enough how important it is to watch 0079 before anything else

If you REALLY want to watch Turn A and appreciate it to its full potential at least go watch the MSG & Zeta compilation movies and CCA first
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>>12507697
>Zeta compilation movies
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>>12507707
>meme arrows
>reaction image
Why don't you try actually fucking communicating like a normal human being and not a /b/ tard?
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>>12507757
>using images on an image board and greentexting is /b/
trying way to hard kiddo
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>>12504656
It's barely better than crap like G Gundam.
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>>12507764
Your filenames and posts make me cringe

>trying hard
>kiddo
>tdkr

Go the fuck back to /b/ or /tv/ or whatever cesspool regurgitated you out here

And the only reason I told him to watch the Zeta compilation movies was because he clearly fucking stated he wasn't patient enough to resist skipping to Turn A, essentially the last series in the UC timeline. Fucking tard
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>>12507788
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>>12507780
In a stunning twist, the best show in the franchise is a little better than the second best show in the franchise.
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>>12507792
really making a statement about your intelligence here
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>>12507799
>my intelligence is so high, probably because I'm an atheist and have no phony religion holding me back
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>>12507757
>>12507788
>>12507799
>check out my intelligent posts on a chinese cartoon image board
Please stop
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>>12507780
G was far more entertaining than ∀.
I'd take over-the-top kung-fu absurdity over laundry duty in a quaint old-fashioned hospital ANY day.
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>>12507803
>>12507809
Ahahaha wow you guys are so fucking retarded you actually think when someone calls you stupid that they're calling themselves smart? I tip my fucking fedora at you. this thread has made me euphoric

5 posts later and you still can't say what's wrong with the A New Translation. Just resorting to the lowest level of arguing like the cornered animal you are
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>>12507834
>5 posts later and you still can't say what's wrong with the A New Translation.
Dakar speech is edited out
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>>12507834
>lel u guys didn't say anything therefore I'm right
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>>12507838
Did you miss the part about the guy being too impatient to watch anything before Turn A? Yeah sure we can tell him to watch every episode until then but I'm taking his circumstances into consideration, which seems to be some kind of alien concept around here
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>>12507846
Right about fucking what? Who the fuck is arguing here? All I did was say to watch the shorter version if someone is too goddamn busy to watch a cartoon and some retard started memeing it up while the cavalry came to join him. Are you seriously this fucking stupid and desperate for a fight?
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>>12507856
>thinking someone is actually too impatient/busy to watch 50 episodes of zeta so you actually recommended them a worse version for convenience of being shorter
nah you're the retard
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>>12507863
What could possibly go so wrong in your pathetic life to make you this assmad over a fucking cartoon. Fucking loser
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>>12507881
>I'm the mad one
>says the guy who get's mad over images and greentexts
nah
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>>12507356
Kamille is the gundam pilot who had both the most stressful life and the most development.
By the end of everything, he wound up more resolved and grown up than even Amuro, who in CCA is still not quite sure what to do with his own personal life.
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>>12507888
nah you're retarded
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>>12507892
nice retort lmao
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>>12507900
Just showing you how fucking stupid everything you've been saying up until this point is

You're so fucking stupid you can't even come up with a single reason for why ANT is worse than Zeta

Calling someone retarded for making a suggestion? I really hope for your sake you don't talk like this in person or people might mistake you for being some kind of neckbeard faggot
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>>12507908
dude you are really mad please seek professional help
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>>12507909
yeah because I'm the one attacking someone over SUGGESTING A FUCKING CARTOON

yeah I'm the one who needs help, right? because there's nothing wrong with going off on someone over a simple suggestion, right? have you read the shit that's been posted so far? Fuck you faggot I want to knock your teeth out
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>>12507919
you're the one still mad and still posting
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>>12507921
Do you even know why I'm mad? Do you have no reading comprehension? My first fucking post in this thread was 'watch the compilation movies' and some fucking retarded little bitch faggot comes in with his OH SO CLEVER reddit tier maymays while the rest of you jump on board without making a single contribution to the discussion and generally shitting all over everything

I want to talk about cartoons but you shitstains would rather pretend this is /b/
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>>12507930
>admitting to being mad
>anything I don't like is reddit
yeah go seek professional help you /v/ fag
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>>12507930
>baneposting
>reddit
yeah confirmed hothead reddit doesn't even like baneposting
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>>12507930
lol u really mad
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>>12507934
I don't even go on /v/ you fucking faggot you just made the exact same argument you were making fun of 'huuuur anything I don't like is /v/'

also lol, like I'm supposed to conform to the standard of pretending not to be mad just to perpetuate a fight. this board culture is a joke, like you're expected to discuss things solely through reaction images and quoting posts

yeah I'll seek professional help please point me to a therapist that specializes in victims of internet retards
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Just fucking fuck already. God damn.
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>>12507930
mad as fuck holy shit
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>>12507954
lol how long did it take you to realize that, fucktard? I bet you had to read that post at least 20 times before you got the context clues
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>>12507959
>pointing out the painfully obvious
What, are you proud that you have functioning eyes or something? way to go champ fucking 5 star post
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>>12507955
>>12507972
mad
as
fuck
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>>12507930
Have a macro on me friend.
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>>12507973
reddit
/b/
newfag
as
fuck

why don't you take a screenshot and share with all your facebook friends xD
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>>12507980
lol you are mad as fuck dude calm down walk away from the screen or something lmao
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>>12507978
What the fuck do newfags think that pointing out that someone is mad is going to have some kind of effect? I'm having a hard time any of you are from /m/, this feels like some kind of invasion from 2008 >u mad lol
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>>12504656
Gundam is not better than Gold Lightan
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>>12507984
le simply epic trolling, truly underrated post
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>>12507985
>>12507992
>only newfags say u mad
nah you're the newfag
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>>12507985
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>>12507985
>>12507992
Anon, getting mad at cartoon boards on the internet isn't healthy. Here's a cute picture to help you calm down
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>>12507993
you forgot your image macro. slipping up already? I bet I've been here since you were still sucking your mom's tits, judging by your post quality there's no way you're anywhere near 18
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>>12507999
>guys I'm an oldfag please believe me
this is the true sign of a newfag
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What the fuck has been up with /m/ recently
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>>12507998
fuck calming down some faggot on the internet talked shit on the zeta compilation movies and I'm not leaving until he fucking explains his shit taste
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