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What went wrong?
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>>12382985
Everything.

Just like G-Reco.
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>>12382985
Nothing.

Just like G-Reco.
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>>12382985
ANN says hi.
>http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/gundam-build-fighters-try/episode-21/.85625

That's the Crossbone episode btw.
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>>12382985

Everything and Nothing
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>>12382985
/m/'s "superior" taste.
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CHICKEN HOW ARE YOU
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>>12382985
Minato isn't the protagonist. Fuck, he actually developed from being an asshole to just being plain hotblooded so he could have a chance to best his rival. More development than Sekai has, especially considering he only had a minimal amount of appearances comparatively.

And he had made/fought using the best MS ideas in the show ( a Brave Gundam and an MS Girl )
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>>12382985
- Shit got way too serious over a plastic toys battle
- Gunpla Academy being a no fun allowed team
- Chicken Spam is not good
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>>12382985
Nothing really happens, no strong fights, no strong development, it just happened.
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They took what was kind of a parody of kid's toy shows and turned it into an actual kid's toy show.

No caemos, barely anyone from the previous series. The second half of the series barely had old mobile suits show up as background fodder considering we saw almost everyone's team by the halfway point and no one was changing suits.
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>>12382985
It was flawed but fun. Of course, liking ANY modern mecha show around these parts is a definite no-no, so I'll let myself out.
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>>12382985
3v3
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>>12383125
This

It was less a love letter to Gundam and more a "Gunpla Battle" series. Heck, in the second opening animation, there aren't any scenes of building, only fighting. And since every gunpla (with one exception) at that point is a unique scratch build, there's less of it that's Gundam over Gunpla.

Also, Jigen Haoh is actually worse than Build Knuckle...
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Team battles.
The protagonist not being a Gundam nut.
No good reasons for the rivalries between the protagonists and their rivals.
Harem bullshit.
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>>12382985
Everything that involved the mc being a SHIT

>Spam named attacks
>H A R E M
>"I don't even know what I'm doing" - before the final battle
>Don't even like gunpla until THE FINAL EPISODE
>Sekai always save the day

Oh yeah and many other flaws like 3v3 battle that turn into 3*1v1, main enemies having no personality at all, hyped characters jobbing hard.

The director or this show should be sacrificed to ensure this kind of shit never happens again.

At least the girls are hot and there will be good porn of them.
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>>12382985
Minato, Gyanko and Shimon arenĀ“t the MCs.
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>>12382985
Lady has no reason to exist. She's literally a rule 63 Meijin down to using a goddamn SD Red Warrior (which we don't even see until the last episode) and Fumina's role model could easily be anybody else and nothing would change.

Fuck's sake, we don't even learn Lady's real name nor do we get any exposition why she's so reluctant to admit that she was the Stargazer pilot when Fumina first encounters her.
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>>12383312

She doesn't want to admit that she's an old hag
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>>12383014
/m/ could have been like this.
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>>12382991
>>12383012
ebin maymay :-DDD
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>>12382985
Fumina's mom doing fuck all to get Fumina and Sekai together.

Seriously, we go from built-up love parings/soulmates to a disorganized harem mess starring Mr. center of the universe. When the love interests have more chemistry with side characters than they do with the main lead, you have a problem.
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>>12383312
I think rather than being reluctant to admit it, it was just such an unimportant tournament to her that she completely forgot about it. Understandable, since Try's battles are very forgettable.
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One thing I hate about Try is how angry everyone is about Gunpla. Sure, they go "But we love it", but it just doesn't feel genuine. In S1 everyone became friends through the power of gunpla and was just having a good time. In S2, dicks like Sugita and the White Wolves still remain dicks.
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>>12383382
>Sugita
Well I'd be a dick too if everyone fucking ignored and forgot about me.
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Honestly I think Team Battles take something away from it.

I don't know what but it felt off. I still liked it though.
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>>12383394
he just wanted a gundam. he got it... but that was so downplayed that it felt more like a waste than a victory.

I can understand sugita being mad.

pic somewhat related.
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>>12383403
Too many fucking characters and not enough development for any of them. Just a bunch of poorly choreographed fights that we're supposed to care about because that's literally all there is, unlike S1.
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Dragon Ball GT tier for final battle
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>>12383486
More like the whole show was GT tier.
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>>12383533
GT had much worse animation than BFTs though.
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>>12383533
I was talking about the final battle destroying the planet, but if you mean the show destroying the original idea, yeah, there is that too.
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They didn't show Tateo til the final episode
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>>12383214
This. Teams were rarely a cohesive unit, more a collection of individuals. At first I was really excited about the concept because I assumed that we would see how the team meshed over time. Instead it becomes a series of 1v1 battles that are extremely weak because now 3 of them have to fit into 1 episode. SD-R, SRSC, and Von Braun showed examples of TEAM strategies. Try Fighters and Celestrial Sphere were a bunch of individuals fighting. GBFT should have shown off strategy trumping strength or ass-pull powers, not the other way around.

For this reason it falls into the tired shounen fighting cliche rather than rising above it.
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The series never needed a sequel, people didn't learn from Akibaranger & they still don't.
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Just rewatched episode 9, Gyanko said she'll build a brand new kit but she still used the same shit at the final ep. This show lol.
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Funny/weird/crazy/dumb Try speculations I remember:
>Mirai and Sekai are Aila's and Reiji's kids
>Yuuma's nemesis and Adou Saga aren't same person
>Reiji is Sekai's master
>Sei made Build Burning to share the damage with its pilot(it was just assimilation)
>The final episode will have Reiji, Aila, Sei VS
>Lady will be awesome and play in an actual team
>Shia can actually feel gunpla "emotions"
>Yuuki and Alan broke up(possibly true)
>BBG has Arista inside it
>Shimon will be edgy/chuuni
>Yuuma will become Dark Yuuma
>Minato will be tsundere for Fumina(turns out he was tsundere for Yuuma, so this one was close)
>Sei will do something
>SD-R will deliver battle like Renatos and be sexy entertaining shotas instead boring and forgettable "characters"
>there will be Sekai VS Reiji
>there will be S3 with World tournament
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>>12383740
It doesn't do anything to retroactively make the first season worse so enjoy it, or don't. It shouldn't matter either way.
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>>12383783
>The final episode will have Reiji, Aila, Sei VS
*VS Try Fighters
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>>12383783
I remeber when we thought Wilfrid would go crazy for Mirai (another completely pointless character) when she did that kiss shot thing.
Instead we got nothing.
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>>12383783
>>Shimon will be edgy/chuuni
How can someone be so SO wrong?
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>>12383797
Maybe he was giving that kind of aura in his introduction
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>>12383781
It was actually at the start of episode 10 and she only said that to appear strong.
Regardless, that was one of the more emotional scenes in Try. Gyanko was really one of the few enjoyable characters.
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>>12383783
>Funny/weird/crazy/dumb Try speculations I remember
>Reiji is Sekai's master

Yeah that one was stupid, it was just Domon all along! Now that actually makes sense.
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>>12383783
>Yuuma's nemesis and Adou Saga aren't same person
They're not. The guy we saw in the flashback was a completely different person. The fact that this wasn't addressed is just more evidence of how little the staff cared.
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>>12383781
That scene was actually one of the few well done scenes in Try, she said it because she didn't want to show weakness in front of Fumina, you can see tears in her eyes when she leaves and Fumina thinks "she's not being honest". Considering how important R-GyaGya was for her it's natural she keeps using that. This was when they were actually being subtle with the characterization by SHOWING what kind of personality they have.

Now Wilfrid is an example of terrible character, the episode before final battle we have Shia and Alan straight out explaining us "oh, Wilfrid is this and this kind of person" despite him not showing that kind of personality traits through this show at all.

First half = pretty good show, characterization was handled nicely
Second half = utter shit except for Tryon and final episode, not a single one good new character introduced, the good ones from first half just get forgotten

>>12383826
Dude it was already confirmed by the BD booklet they're same person, just give it a rest.
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>>12383382
Sugita gets to be mad because he got shit on the entire season. Now try fighters on the other hand...they sure look like they love gunpla right?
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>>12383090
>- Shit got way too serious over a plastic toys battle
>tfw Mamoru doesn't get negative reaction after losing, instead gets hyped because he now has a friend with same hobby
Something's wrong when grade school kids act more mature and like this is a hobby.
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>>12383810
>Now that actually makes sense.
Except for the fact that now there's 2 Domons running around; Sekai's master and that kid from the S1 cameo sequences (assuming he didn't grow up stupidly fast and is the same guy).
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>>12384087
This show is just awful.
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>>12384064
So just like all major sports then? Started out as fun but then became super serious.
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>>12384126
Kamille was right, adults truly don't understand anything
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>>12384087
>Except for the fact that now there's 2 Domons running around;
There were several Hamans in the first season IIRC. A few others, too.
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>>12384087

Try is 7 years later, dude. Seven years.

If he was 11, he would be 18 in that scene. Don't be a sperglord.
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Daily reminder that S3 will be Wilfrid, Shia, and Lucas Nemesis vs Try Fighters.

It was on the ending episode, since Adou can't play anymore.

Although I would have wanted to see Sei kick Sekai's ass one time, do a SEED Destiny, and NTR the show from the other protag.
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>>12384064
>>12384126
>way too serious

Did you faggots even watch? It was as serious as the previous one. In fact, the last episode was definetely not serious.

>>12384131

No there wasn't, you just see Haman's everywhere for some reason.
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>>12383802

So people didn't actually watched anything?

Sounds about right

Hurr durr too serious

Like Sei didn't take that shit serious even though he was gonna be in school for years to come.

Fucking faggots nitpicking.
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>>12383781

Watch it again and pay fucking attention this time.

Homino says she was bluffing.
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>>12382985

You jumping on the bandwagon of /m/ because you can't form your own opinions
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>>12383214
>Only Sekai shouts attacks and it's not even spam
>If by harem you mean the MC not getting any girls, fine
>He liked Gunpla ever since Fumina showed it to him
>Sekai gets his ass handed to him constantly and Yuuma or Fumina always saves him

Did you even watch it?
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>>12384151
Well, that's fair enough (although how he got enough time to both become a master and train Sekai is an ugly can of worms).
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>>12383382

One example or else you're retarded.
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>>12384192
I did, you seem to love it too much to see it's flaws, I'm so sorry.
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>>12383564
>omg they destroyed a computer-simulated planet that wasn't even real

I'm out.
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>>12384215
Considering that never happened before, yeah it's bullshit.
If people aren't able to destroy the digital world in the next fights they are weak trash.
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>>12384203
>love it too much

Lol, nope. I just think people nitpick it a lot compared to the first season, that wasn't even THAT GOOD for fuck's sakes.

And I just countered your arguments. All that I said is true.

I don't even like Sekai but goddamn, people call him a mary sue... but not Reiji? Yeah right, like that isn't nitpicking of the highest level.
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>>12384228

They have destroyed colonies and asteroids before. Get real.

Also, when Sekai hoes his phoenix attack for the first time he destroyed a moon.

All that shit is computer scenario.
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Sekai might be the ace of their team, but he's the weakest fighter in their team if you guys haven't noticed.

Fumina and Yuuma can shoot projectiles, at pinpoint accuracy at that too.

They bail Sekai out all the time. Not to mention their mobile suits are pretty darn OP. Winning Beam? Yeah, more like CARRY THE WHOLE TEAM BEAM. She got shuriken funnels, an amplification gate that also doubles as an I-field barrier - wow, that's so underpowered man.

Lightning gundam's suicidal tactics paired with good dakka and unparalleled speed makes good use of Yuuma's skills as a ranger. Did you also happen to forget that Yuuma's lightning gundam carried them a couple of times too, even rivalling Tryon-3 in firepower.

And then we have Build burning. Gets shit on by his recklessness and his lack of good piloting ability isn't helping either. It takes ONE slip up and he's incapacitated.

What is Build Burning good for? Fighting Melee mobile suits as well as a "Finisher Move" for the whole team.

All in all, they got good synergy.
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>>12384162
>>12384179
Great argument skills you have there. Did you completely forget about the scene in S1 where Fellini acts like typical Try character for a moment and then gets told by Kirara that he's not being cool at all? When Ral tells Reiji that the reason they can take it seriously is because they're not involved in actual war and no one gets hurt, and then Try completely breaks this by introducing the assimilation theme just to add unnecessary drama?
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>>12384236

I just don't get how this game works

the only constant rule seems to be "Sekai's team wins"
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>>12384244

I was actually impressed that Sekai DIDN'T carry the team. Sure, he won some fist fights for them, but I was delighted to see Yuuma kicking some major ass with the Lightning Gundam and Fumina having a lot of gadgets and even a transformation.

It was actually quite fresh air because in the first season, Reiji, who also never had any previous experience with Gunpla OR FIGHTING, did everything with Sei's RG system.
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>>12384264

Like in the first season where it's Reiji and Sei always win?
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>>12384244
Everyone has noticed he's the weakest, that makes him worse because everyone keeps sucking his dick for some reason and he won through MC privilege and asspulls.
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>>12384264
It's simple, the gunpla with most bulit in hax wins
Oh yeah, don't forget your phoenix energy beams that can wipe out huge chunks of the earth and whole moons
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>>12382985
That Crossbone jobbing.
Shamefur display.
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>>12384262

And why does that NOT count in the second season? Because Ral didn't repeat himself?

It seems pretty clear that Fumina just loves Gunpla. Yuuma had to relearn how to love Gunpla. Sekai was never fucking serious.
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>>12384285
Is crossbone a low particle slut in it's original work too?
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>>12384279
>Like in the first season where it's Reiji and Sei always win?

Rei and Seiji lost HARD in the first three episodes

Rei and Seiji could still only pull out a tie against Felini and their gunpla got wrecked doing it.
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>>12384292

No it's because he uses too much beam attacks and spam so he depletes his particles fast.

This whole plavsky thing is retarded. Always been, since the first season but whatever.
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>>12384244

I was often Impressed by the Lightning, and Yuuma's suicide runs were always really fun, it always seemed to me like Yuuma was the underdog and gave it his all and completed his goal. The id had some great maneuvering as well. Fumina did'nt quite get the "cool" scenes she could have, but even in the end she was still the one holding the team together and had enough cool gadgets to keep things interesting,

Sekai is just incredibly boring to watch unfortunately.
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>>12384303
How about needing to recharge every 3 shots?
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>>12384301
Still the best fight in both seasons.
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>>12384279
Did you just not watch the 1st season?
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>>12384301

Your nitpicking is showing.

They literally only lost to Tatsuya in their exhibition fight. All other fights they won with RG System and Build Knuckle.

Build Burning just has an RG plavsky hax installed in it and at least Sekai tries to do different stuff instead of punching, which is Reiji's only attack but since he's a newtype from the moon he can right?
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>>12384316

Tell me when they lost. Tell me, I'm here.

Because as far as I remember, they won the tournament.
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>>12384292
Nope. It's one of the most badass Late UC MSes, piloted by great pilots, has a great arsenal and overall a great suit.

Unfortunately, the bunch of braindead chimps that make up Trys writing team, decided to job it hard.
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>>12384292
No, pretty much the opposite. With Tryon 3 I actually understand particles running out but not Crossbone, especially when it didn't even do much during the fight compared to the beam spam fest in Try Fighters VS Academy.
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>>12384325
>job hard
> one MS with two useless guys against a team of three aces

I want to see Crossbone Ghost gundam.

Since, well, we'll never get OVAs for Crossbone...
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>>12384319
>Your nitpicking is showing.

it's not nitpicking it's understanding story telling and pacing.

>Reiji and Sei get a win early, feel like their hot shit
>Yuki: Hah hah no. loser. get on my level
>Dammit we need to get on his level

and then they worked their asses off to get on said level.

The Try fighters are a collection of morons who can't work together and get rewarded for it. Whatever happened to teaching Sekai how to shoot? Oh we don't need that when we can Chiken How are you, fuck training!
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Why the FUCK was Ral using a blue Dom in the last episode and not yet, another updated version of the Gouf?

Wait, the Dom is basically an upgrade for the Gouf but still...

Ral not using a Gouf is just so wrong.
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>>12384338

Isn't that EXACTLY what Try is about? Except, since the beginning, they KNOW they are not hot shit.

>it's understanding story telling and pacing.

I see. Nitpicking hard then and trying to pretend you know some shit about storytelling OR pacing...
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>>12384340
It's basically a joke to the original, Ral finally got his Dom.
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>>12384340
Because Ral wanted a Dom in MSG but he never got one because M'quve didn't give it to him and then Ral was a kill
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>>12384349
>>12384353

I want to see Ral killing himself.

Next MC must be a Char clone with a sister too.
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>>12384347

>i can't come up with a decent argument
>ill say he's nitpicking
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>>12384359
No, next MC is Mamoru/Sazaki mk3
Aren't they just the cutest thing ever?
YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME
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>>12384365

Good job ignoring ALL my previous posts. I'm not repeating myself.

And you didn't even use any fucking argument. You just said "storytelling and pacing" since that basically is "I don't have any argument".

Come on, TRY me bro.

Why is Sekai a marystu and Reiji isn't? Because you're gay for him like Sei?

What is so different about RG system plavsky hax and Assimilation hax? At least Sekai knows how to fight and has more attacks then RG Build Knuckle.

What makes the Try fighters more serious then fucking Sei?
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>>12384368

Not another Seedfag. Especially a Seed Destiny Fag that isn't even old enough to get a boner.

Not with retarded Sazami brother.
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Minato should have been the MC.
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>>12384380

This. Another thing that Try does better than BF.

Minato is so fucking better than annioying Mao it's not even funny. No wonder Mao never shows up, the master problably kicked him out of the school.
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>>12384368
The next mc is the youngest Sasaki sibling
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>>12384390

We never even saw how old Sazaki is doing or how he looks.
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>>12384379
Seed Destiny MSV has some pretty cool units to use and customize that never got animation, I don't see the problem.
Keep the hate of the show away from this.
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>>12384371
>What is so different about RG system plavsky hax and Assimilation hax?
Assimilation isn't "hax" like the RG System that's specifically created by Sei, it's some kind of super power that Sekai has for some reason(not that he's the only one, considering they knew about it before). It works when the story needs it to work, then they forget about it completely.
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>>12384400
He was 12, he's 19-20 by now
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>>12384407

Unh, no. It's an improved RG system that Sei built for Reiji originally. Build Burning was built by Sei. It has the same plavsky hacks.

I agree with you with Sekai though. I don't get why only he (and his rival) can do the assimilation.

Then again, in the first season, only Sei used plavsky hacks (and well, Niels too).
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>>12384371

you're the one ignoring the fact that people find the team boring because they don't grow or earn any of their victories.

The universe bends to give them an edge and then everyone lines up to say how awesome they are.

>Why is Sekai a marystu and Reiji isn't? Because you're gay for him like Sei?


Because Reiji's an alien and that element actually plays into the shows narrative

>What is so different about RG system plavsky hax and Assimilation hax?

well for starts SEI ACTUALLY BUILT HIS! Sekai's been riding someone else's hax machine.

>What makes the Try fighters more serious then fucking Sei?


The lack of shit like this
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>>12384407
>then they forget about it completely.
Pretty much, or else Sekai would be in coma after getting destroyed.
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>>12384419
>you're the one ignoring the fact that people find the team boring because they don't grow or earn any of their victories.
>The universe bends to give them an edge and then everyone lines up to say how awesome they are.

Like in the first season. Awesome.

>well for starts SEI ACTUALLY BUILT HIS! Sekai's been riding someone else's hax machine.

But Sei built the one Sekai uses.

Yeah, I see you don't have any arguments.

Just admit that Try is as bad as the first season and shut the fuck up.
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>>12384429
Try is worse, that's the problem.
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>>12384328
Also, why the fuck would they introduce the particle drain at the end of the second series? Shouldn't that be established by episode 2 of the BF? WTAF?
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>>12384429
Try is worse.
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>>12384418
>Then again, in the first season, only Sei used plavsky hacks (and well, Niels too).

Even the RG system was a huge departure from a machine that fucks the user. It just messed with what's on the play field.
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>>12383835
I don't care what they say, this is not fucking Adou. At least it wasn't originally intended to be.
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>>12384437
The story didn't need it before. Why would it, when lot of battles were just jobbers jobbing to someone only to make them look strong and threatening players? Then we get Crossbone battle where the fighters finally are supposed to be equal and they need some kind of way to give the battle a conclusion and doesn't include any of Academy players losing.
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>>12384473
So, its just a forced plot device to job the only fighter who could have beaten Academy by himself?
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>>12384470
How it can not be originally him when the credits in episode 2 clearly say his name is Adou Saga? It could be that they ended up changing Adou's design, or that he looked younger two years ago and suddenly got manly chin, or that the guy in your image is just Yuuma's vision of things for the dramatic effect. After everything in Try, the mystery of Adou's chin is the least serious problem.
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>>12384473

because if the only way the team they want to win can win is if they suddenly change the mechanics of the game you made a shitty tournament show.
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>>12384486
After the fight, Wilfrid actually says "if your particles didn't run out...", so maybe. Though that was quite poor way to show it because to me it didn't look like Academy was having serious problems with Crossbone at all. They even had the "win" button in Transient that gave it wings and then Crossbone was dead.

>>12384489
I know.
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I just assumed it was Junya and Yuuma was mistaken. It seemed to fit.
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>>12384470
Just fckin accept it. Clearly it wasn't Adou's final character design. smh.
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>>12384509
I don't get why people ever thought this, I mean
>designs don't really match
>voices don't match, Hosoya voiced both that guy and Adou
>Junya wasn't connected to Yuuma's character arc at all, makes no sense for him to suddenly be his nemesis
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>>12384473
>equals
>Basically a 3 on one fight

If you didn't see outcome to that before it even began you're retarded
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>>12384509

But the fight style doesn't fit at all since Junya is all about martial arts while Adou is mixed. Also

> /m/ expected a direct sequel to S1
> They instead get a spin-off that basically has no relation to S1 except for cameos, namedrops, and such
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>>12384509
Huh? The weird thing that killed off Yuuma's Airmaster was nothing like Junya's fighting style.
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>>12384518
>pointy chin
>edgy asshole
>rekts yuuma and spits in his face

>adou shows up and is just a hotblooded sportsman and doesn't remember shit
Honestly I don't see how I wouldn't.
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>>12384530
Junya's fighting style is whatever makes him stronger that day, plus almost every martial art ever. There's nothing to say he wouldn't use some edgy gendumb that rips shit limb from limb because its strong.
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>>12384567
Except that wasn't martial arts.
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>>12384561
>adou shows up and is just a hotblooded sportsman and doesn't remember shit
Adou was basically supposed to be not so brutal Dio, the guy who doesn't remember how many breads he has eaten. They even described him as "that guy who broke over 1000 toys". Then they try to show he's actually pretty cool guy and has best personality out of his awful team, then suddenly he still gets bad end with his wrist. I never asked this.
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>>12384577

I'm pretty sure he'll eventually recover as long as he doesn't over-exert himself or fap too hard while recovering
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>Adoufags
Not even once.
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Why they didn't show Shimon VS Sekai in that final brawl? Is it because if Shimon uses just a little bit improved machine he could blow the shit out of Sekai and that would make him look weak? Kind of weird that they chose Suga out of all people.
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>>12384663
>Kind of weird that they chose Suga out of all people.
Gotta sell dem HG Leopards.
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>>12384625
Dude just needs to strap on a brace and take fish oil capsules and glucosamine. I went through wrist RSI, it's no biggie if caught early on.
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>>12384567
You're missing the point, though. Junya isn't someone who wants to use martial arts to become a better gunpla battler (willing to use any gunpla and/or weapons tech), he's trying to use gunpla battle to become a better martial artist (willing to use any kind of hand-to-hand combat). The kitbash monster that Yuuma fought years ago wasn't in any way, shape, or form meant to be useful for martial arts, it was a mishmash of several different kinds of technological weapons. Standing there and launching remote weapons and claws at his target is clearly not Junya, both Adou and Suga who have fought Junya before know that Junya mainly uses Jigen Haoh.

Besides, Yuuma said he was replaying the tournament fight in his mind to figure out how to defeat Adou's GN bits, and Yuuma's tactics were working at first against the Gundam The End's bits, until Adou pulled out the alternate mode where the bits can combine into a larger, stronger mode that was harder to take down.
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I'll quit if Season 3 is 5 on 5. That sounds insane and like a cluster fuck but I wouldn't put it passed them at this point.

However if it's some fucking squad based 8th MS team shit Ill be okay.

>>12384419
>The lack of shit like this
I really liked that Baseball episode. There was nothing like that in Try, no fucking Wacky Racers/ Mario Kart tier race either this time. That was the world tournament though so I guess it had to had more variety due to all the damn participants but still the fact that there was nothing crazy like that in Try bugs me.
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>>12384750
5v1 could be fun, if it's like sentai with one bigger MoTW
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>>12384750

>5 vs 5

So using Gunpla to emulate sports? (Gunpla Volleyball, Gunpla Soccer, Gunpla Basketball, etc.)
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>>12384762
>>12384775
Actually both of these ideas kinda sound cool.

Gunpla Basketball would be better than Basquash easily.
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What went wrong was all the speglords who cried betrayal against the show because MUH S1

Both seasons are absolute shit. But they were both enjoyable pieces of shit.
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>>12384750
Nah man, season 3 should be about full squads.

10 units fielded on the front, and then a bench as deep as the ships you can field. That's right you have to build your own white base to house, repair, and launch your gunpla.

Back up suits waiting in the hangar. Substitutes that can fly out while you fly back in for repairs.

Anyone stationed on the ship has to operate defense as well as crew the bridge.

It would be incredible because then you can have a traditional sports series where the team is the focus and team play is important, and then you only have to develop the rival team alongside one or two players from other teams to make it exciting.
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>>12384750

It's funny but in the battle royal Sei Reiji and their friends felt like more of a team than Try fags did in their whole series
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>>12384884
Sounds awesome.
They can barely hold their shit with 1v1 without fucking up, so yeah, it's a nice dream
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>>12384762
If only they repeated it.
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>>12384927

And then /m/ can bitch about it being a rehash
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>>12384884
That sounds pretty damn cool but, that sounds like something they would only do during a final battle or something.
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I feel like Gundam Build Fighters Try is on the same level as ZZ.

>bland shonen protagonist
>harem
>no idea what the fuck anybody's goals are
>weak ass rivalries
>useless female characters

If you like ZZ you should have no problem with GBFT
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>>12384905
>>12384969
Nah man, you see how popular sports anime are now. Haikyuu!!, Dia no Ace, Kuroko, they just go down that route.

A core team of players, a bench, a newbie and his rival, and a cute manager that works with the support team for building.

You get all the drama of a sports anime and mesh it with gundam. You could even have literal roles.

Some guys play field scout and scout guard in light armored gunpla. Some guys play striker in the more traditional gunpla. Some guys play interceptor in the defense oriented gunpla.

You can even field a mobile armor as your center unit. Get some dendro or deep striker in there.

Goal of the game is to either occupy enemy capital territory, or sink the enemy fleet.

With that set up you get the rival team. Plus you can have other teams along the way with faceless nobodies alongside their super ace or their tristars, etc.

It creates the sports dynamic and keeps the gundam dynamic. Fujoshi get their shit, gunpla nerds get their shit, and we get hotblood and cool wind.
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>>12385038
I get what you mean, but I'm telling you gbf staff is shit to do stuff like that competently.
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>>12384244
He's a weak ass punk in a world that loves him which just makes him more annoying.

Many are better at fighting than him, more tactical and just generally smarter. Every time he has won in 1v1 situation it has been down to having a better suit

He has no arc, he has no mysteries past (his training was literally just training that is good with gunpla) and all he learns is to gunpla more

Say what you will about Kira but they tried something, it was shit but they did stuff. Sekai is the worst Gundam Protagonist
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>>12384470
that's clearly lockon
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>>12383589
is tateo a loli?
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>>12385153
Are you retarded?
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>>12384470
My impression was that this guy was actually Junya.
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>>12385153
The brothers get more and more girly. The youngest one will be a full trap.
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>>12384487

It's Saga, alright, but the wrong Saga.
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Warning: incoming blog post.

I noticed that Try literally reuses a lot of concepts in the first season.

>Red-haired fighter
>Blue haired builder
>Yellow and using an SD
>Ramba Ral and Ramba-Ral suit
>Fighting the Meijin who has a red suit
>Mejin candidate
>Final tournament battle is an Exia mod
>Tournament battle in the first place
>SD combat
>Bearguy
>Gunpla Races, suddenly interrupted in the middle of the race, losing at the last second
>Gunpla Idol who is semi-competent at fighting
>dudes who use operator tactics (remote triggered explosives, surpressing fire)
>mysterious white-haired waifu who takes down a giant mobile armor single-handedly with a "grunt" unit (the Portent is a Trailblazer worker unit IIRC) and who has some sort of relationship with the red-haired guy
>Particle Inner Frame
>Final move is punching the other guy
>Making one gunpla out of multiple gunpla
>build/fight episode
>rival who uses Gyan-type and is promptly demoted to background when that arc is done
>lethal mysterious tournament opponent who can multikill enemy gunpla easily
>said indestructible opponent is taken out by exploiting particles
>gunpla Shingyo school of building
>Said shingyo osakan is in a build-related rivalry with the blue-haired character
>said osakan faces off against the blue-haired builder in a battle of build skill (aka who built their shit better) AND USES A FUCKING SWORD FINISHER
>apparently some sort of crystal at the source of powers (Arista vs. that thing inside the BB)
>Episode 23 "twist" (Dark Matter vs. Fapping Hand)
>rapidly escalating plavasky hacks
>gunpla fesitval
>Free-for-all battle
>widespread particle emission

(a fair bit of them may just be me reading into it too much)

The problem is that it kinda didn't really do anything with these concepts. They just kinda threw them in there because they were there in S1.
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>>12385416

Don't forget

>Newcomer winning the tournament in their first try (Reiji and Try Fighters)
>The Kansai builder did something that annoyed the crush
>The rival faces someone from Europe in the semi-finals, whom are both blonde (Julian and Lucas)
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>>12385416

So with those concepts, they just made a pretty generic plot. After all the goings-on in S1, it just seems a letdown.

>hurr you keep comparing it to S1

Damn right I'm comparing to S1. This was supposed to be a sequel from the same damn studio. They should have kept some goddamn notes on "how we made S1 not a bland shitshow," but that's opinions.

Also was swapping out some concepts for others. Instead of ingenuity in building and subduing opponents with build-related fixes and solutions (Cotton, Super Glue, MAKING your own gimmicks), we had Harem Hijinx, Gunpla have become less "extensions of personality" and more "we can't punch each other physically so we'll have THIS COOL TOY do it instead"

They also didn't really make characters that had "good" interactions.

S1 had:

Sei, who roped Reiji to pilot his Build Strike, after Reiji "granted Sei's wish" to keep the Build Strike out of Sazaki's hands, and they combined their interests in Gunpla battle.

We had Sei and Reiji's rivalry with Yuuki, before Yuuki had to become the third meijin.

We had Fellini's mentorship of Reiji, ending in Build Strike and Fenice putting their skills and workman ship on the line.

We had Sei's build-type rivalry with Mao, about whose build quality and ingenuity is the superior one, which came to a head with the Build Strike vs. X-Maoh fight

We had Kirara and Sei have an ideological clash about gundam fandom, with Kirara moving beyond trying to exploit it and instead moving to embrace it

(con't)
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>>12385457
We had China and Caroline, although that was a one-sided rivalry what was played for laughs and was solved with build-ingenuity (the cotton stuffing), and this was a PLOT POINT to help Sei along with the Star Build Strike, so it was actually important.

We had Nils vs. Greco/Sei in another ideological clash of "Piloting skills vs. plavasky hax"/"gunpla battles to have fun vs. means to an end."

Even one-shot fights like Luang and Czommer were FROM their personalities (Luang respected Sei's building skills and was literally gushing about them before their "fight" and Czommer was there to get revenge on Felinni for stealing his girl) and not ONLY their personalities (well, maybe Czommer, but he was there to get blown up by Felinni, so make of that what you will).

I could go on. Yuuki vs. the Renato Bros. for "gunpla battle as a game vs. gunpla battle as a war," Aila being pretty much forced to gunpla battle against her will, Yuuki and Julian fighting to prove that Yuuki was not going to repeat the Tryhard policies of the 2nd Meijin, Yuuki apparently going against this policy when he faced off against Sei and Reiji who had to literally punch Yuuki back to his senses, etc. etc.

Try had RIVAL RIVAL STRENGTH FIGHT STRENGTH. That was pretty much about it, imo. No real interaction besides "WE GONNA BEAT YOU," "GOTTA BEAT YOU BECAUSE" and "GRRR YOU AIN'T GONNA BEAT US." Honestly. The only ones that stick out are Yuuma's revenge boner, Junya's strength boner, and Minato's rivalry boner, and I could argue that these were all the characters were. The conflicts were their personalities, not extensions or clashes, and that made them pretty damn 1D.

(con't)
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>>12385489

Quoted the wrong dude.

Anyway.

Didn't help that for a lot of the introductions, people were assholes. Yuuma was an asshole, Modeling pres was an asshole, White Dingos were assholes, SDR were smug assholes, Gunpla academy were mostly assholes, Purple Shinki team were also mostly assholes, Minato was an cocky asshole, Junya was an asshole. etc. etc. Try boiled character introductions down to "and then there's THIS asshole," with a few exceptions, like Shia, Sleggar, and the other guys of Build Busters but they weren't developed a lot further than their introductions.

Were we supposed to root for Try Fighters beating these guys? because all it did was just not make me interested in them, adding on to a lot of the characters suddenly not being relevant anymore.


And where/what was the conflict? S1 had a pretty straightforward conflict, aka "be world champs!!!" but we also had the hidden conflict of Chairman Manchild trying to get Sei and Reiji booted out, and we had the subplot of Nils finding out the secret of the Plavasky Particle, so we had something to look at besides TOURNEY BATTLES!

Try just had "U-19 QUALIFIERS!" and everyone's treating it like it's the Universe Gunpla Championship, and even then the fighters in S1 were mostly respectful of each other and were testing their gunpla as much as they were testing their piloting skills. Try is literally trying too hard to make it serious, and the fights, probably due to budget reasons, were not as fun to watch. So when they're all "THIS IS FUN," it's just empty. It's like S1 sets it at one volume (be serious but enjoy!) while Try flips between two very different settings (SRS BSNS <-> LOL FUN FUN), and the result is that Try just doesn't seem to know what they were doing.

I could go on with more points and naysaying, but not my personal blog, just throwing my brick into the window.

TLDR: Try tried to make ice cream sundae, made frozen milk instead.
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>>12384750
>However if it's some fucking squad based 8th MS team shit Ill be okay.

Ya know, back in season 1 I figured the americans and europeans must have had a sizable fan made ruleset on gunpla battle that was more centered on tactical warfare type stuff. As well as people who used it for a spin on TTRPGs, Zaku fighters and Dom wizards taking out massive custom built gunpla dragons. Especially after seeing the episode where Ral takes Reiji to the gunpla gentlemen's club where middle aged men like him all dress up as feddies and zekes.
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>>12382985
Sugita got a gundam.
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>>12382985
QUALITY wise

It reminds me every time I watch an episode how much of anime is essentially just a slide show of images.

Normally I can force myself to forget this animation style (as well as the terrible anime lip syncing where mouths make the same shape), but Try makes it really hard when even in mech battles it's just still-images moving in up or down or side to side.
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>>12385503

>SRSC and G-Master
>Assholes

The only ones that I would consider to be assholes is Forehead and maybe SRSC's coach (we should only focus on Yuuma since the other twos are unknowns he said, and then NOT AS PLANNED happened), the rest of them seems to be pretty chill dudes
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>>12384895
I dunno I feel like they helped each other a lot. Not sure about overall. I think both casts helped each other a ton.

>>12385510
I would have killed to see more of that older crowds interpretation of Gunpla.
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>>12385523

To tell you the truth i actually forgot about the Ez-8 dudes when i was raging on my hate-boner, and I can't recall a lot of details about some of the teams because I pretty much forgot what they were like.

I'd chalk that up to the characters being pretty generic/1D and me having a shitty memory.
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>>12385563

>I was raging on my hate-boner

Fair enough, and frankly with the tournament format and how it is set up it in Try is almost expected that most Regionals participants would be throwaways and be forgettable by default
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>>12384262
Your wallet gets hurt. Those replacement part molds aren't free.
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There was like nothing tying it into S1, the characters sucked/were underutilized/underdeveloped, 3v3 REALLY hurt the show, and the two tournament format was just fucking terrible.

The sad thing is fixing the show would be so easy. Just make the cast not a team. Pick any of the three for the focal character. Sekai could be a newbie to gunpla who wants to break in, using gunpla as an extension of his martial arts and trying to constantly seek ways to beat opponents and learn like Junya, while also learning how to build. Let him start with a custom Shining Gundam and BB is his upgrade.

Or have Fumina as the main character, trying to get good because she was inspired by watching Aila. This would set up a rivalry with Lucas, because he knows Aila too, and it would tie her to S1. Or Yuuma, his whole revenge-fueled mindset and him being a traumatized pussy could make for an interesting main character.

If they weren't forced to be a team and shoved around competing for screentime, any one of them could have been great.

And make the qualifiers more event-based like the tournament in S1. You have to get points to get within a certain ranking by fighting people/winning gunpla races/whatever to get into the nationals and fight it out for real. That would give you the chance to have the main characters lose, to have people show up more than once, etc.
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