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So whats new for the mecha genre in gaming?

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So whats new for the mecha genre in gaming?
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GoD factory got released recently. It's similar to strike suit zero but multiplayer. Pretty cool but not that many players online.
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>>11350190
I really need to reinstall SSZ and finish that. I got up to... The mission where you have to lead the enemy fleet into the nebula so your allied fleet can ambush them.
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>>11350190
is SSZ good? I've seen it a lot but it always looked like a typical arena fighter or something

Is it not this? I didn't know it had as story
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>>11352286
You're probably thinking of Strike Vector which is a shit game
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>>11352321
That is exactly what I'm thinking of it looks like
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>>11352286
Strike Suit Infinity is an arena fighter. Strike Suit Zero's a pretty decent game. Looks great. The transforming title mecha is sex. And the second mission reminds me a little of Homeworld 3rd mission.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPZaHm5-eVU
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>>11352216
>>11352286
Ignore Zero and go play Infinity.
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>>11352355
You're retarded. Strike Suit Infinity is not an arena fighter.
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>>11352416
That's what the biop says. "Fight against endless waves of enemies and score points to be top dog!"

Are you saying that isn't arena fighting?
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There are still many Japanese PC games with mecha worth translating.
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>>11352429
Oh man look at those squishy little humans.

Can you splat them and blow them into little bits?
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>>11352468
That and you can customize your suits (also have to worry about HP of individual parts). This came out the same year as Front Mission, and it had a prequel the year before.
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>>11352426
It's not. It's just normal Strike Suit Zero but without a story or mission objectives. The stage starts and you try to destroy all the enemies to clear it.
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>>11352286
>>11352355


You should play Astebreed instead of Strike Suit Zero.

Also pick up Gunhound EX while you can.
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>>11352429
What's this game?
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>>11350190
Technically Destiny; what with the cyborg Fallen, the player character race Exo, and the Vex, among other things. Of course, it's not mecha-centric.
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>>11352429
God damn it, Japanese games have had those shitty menu based combat systems for fucking ever.
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>>11352591
CRW 2, Wiz, PC-98, 1995: http://www.pc98.org/crw2.html
http://mercenaryforce.web.fc2.com/pc9801/pc98/01027.html
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>>11353837
Definitely since the early 80s.
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>>11354808
Yeah, back in those days it made sense to do that, but the combat menu for CRW 2 looks almost identical (graphics aside) to stuff you see in modern JRPGs and SRPGs like SRW and G Gen. It doesn't speak well for Japanese developers.
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Started Pic related.
What am I in for since I haven't got my hand on ZOE game?
What should I be wary of in order to beat it?
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>>11354826
Japan doesn't like change.
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>>11354826
What would you have opposed to a menu?
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>>11354911
Literally anything else. XCOM: Enemy Unknown/Within's system is pretty good.
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>>11354849
It was my first ZOE game. You don't need to know much else as the first game didn't do much world building. This game does all that. If you want the game to be easy use the manual mode for attacking and evading. There are two endings with one having a minor variation depending on whether or not you defeated a character. You'll more than likely get that one as the other requires you to fail a mission halfway through the game. If you want to play for the other ending, keep a separate save before the mission where the "Mars Angels" appear.
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>>11354946
Should I save money or upgrade after every stage?
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>>11355054
What's this? A Gundam game?
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>>11355074
Only a Gundam game would be silly enough to have tanks in space
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>>11355131
Which game is it?
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>>11354808
But that's a western game.
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>>11355133
Mobile Suit Gundam Online.
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>>11355054
iwishiwasborninjapan.
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>>11355262
>>11355133
>>11355131
>>11355074
>>11355054
https://sites.google.com/site/msgoenglish/

Currently a mega Kusoge due to a bad expansion to China and lack of addressing long term issues. Maybe it'll improve as Bandai will look bad if it crashes and burns in Japan before opening their expansion to China.
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>>11355131
What's so absurd about tanks in space?
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>>11355026
I always upgraded, games not that hard
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>>11352587
>Also pick up Gunhound EX while you can.
Seconding this.
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>>11355664
To be fair it's a great game, it's just not getting the proper care and attention it deserves at the present time.

You can have a fair bit of fun playing it once you get over some of the meta.
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>>11356960
this

game's still pretty much fun if you don't mind about the meta, which usually only happens on the higher echelons.
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>>11354911
I thought Valkyria Chronicles 1 had a good solution to modernising the SRPG/TRPG/whatever you call it - formula.
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Brigador looks like it might be cool but it's also a while off still
http://store.steampowered.com/app/274500/
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Project Nimbus looks promising.
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Anything on the Lost Planet series?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/6510/
They are on sale currently
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I just recently finished playing B.A.D. Battle Armor Division.

Unlike its acronym, it is actually worth a playthrough. Challenging and fun. Gameplay is very similar to Gun Hazard, Metal Warriors and Cybernator.
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>>11359607
It was made by some dubious italian/spanish developer and the graphics can be a bit jarring in the cutscenes, but the amount of detail and gameplay are rather impressive despite that.

http://www.criansoft.com/
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>>11359612
You can buy it on the above website or be a cheap piece of shit(like me) and torrent it here: http://kickass.to/b-a-d-battle-armor-division-t8628922.html
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>>11359607
By the way, it has space combat too.
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>>11359607 >>11359612 >>11359618

I just tested it, it's conceptually interesting, horribly frustrating in practice.

You can feel this is an amateur project, this is buggy, you don't have all the menu you would expect to see (although it can come from the pirate version).

But the real problem is that it was made to be played with a GAMEPAD.
Here it is : You just cannot move and aim at the same time, your shield can only face two directions. Left and Right.
In result :Targeting anything with the machine gun is an hassle and the complex launch missile combination which would be quite interesting had it been a slow spaced game become a nightmare in a game that require you to fight several enemy at once coming from every direction.

Maybe I just SUCK at this game, but for anyone who played "Intrusion 2" before, those controls are unbearable (and Mechs aren't even the main interest in this one).

As for the context and the use of mechs, this is exactly what one would imagine to brand Military Mech as useless against helicopter, tank and infantry.
- Mech cannot move and aim
- Walking is extremely slow even if jumping would imply faster legs
- Wheels only allow you to move 10m at once
- At first you fight on, very flat terrain, with no cover, face to face like a Napoleonic battalion.
- The only allies you have are fellow AI mech with the same flaws that are barely useful as mook.
- And enemies always have the element of surprise over you.

You tell me if I misjudged this game, as far I am concerned the only quality of this game is that someone TRIED.
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>>11354826
Why fix what isn't broken? At the very least, it works without being obtrusive in a turn-based game, and in more modern games, the menu disappears when the action happens.

>>11352429
Speaking of old Japanese games, does anyone ever remember this one old game that released close to Front Mission 3 and also on PS1, and featured a similar combat setup?

I recall it had a similar interface and setup, but with bit more of a dynamic fighting element in which the players and enemies set the path they want their mechs to move to, and while moving, would open fire on any opponents within range of their weapons, in a sort of mecha drive-by shooting. It was never ported to the US.
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>>11360305
>I recall it had a similar interface and setup, but with bit more of a dynamic fighting element in which the players and enemies set the path they want their mechs to move to, and while moving, would open fire on any opponents within range of their weapons, in a sort of mecha drive-by shooting. It was never ported to the US.
That sounds a lot like Zeonic Front's combat system. I didn't know there were games predating it that used similar systems.

>>11360305
>Why fix what isn't broken? At the very least, it works without being obtrusive in a turn-based game, and in more modern games, the menu disappears when the action happens.
Because even if something isn't broken, that does not mean there is not room for improvement. For example, after the original X-Com game game out, lots of turn based strategy/tactics games aped its UI and mechanics, and never improved on them. As time went on, less and less people played those games, until they became ultra-niche before XCOM: Enemy Unknown shook up the formula with a better UI and tweaked mechanics that felt accessible to a wide range of gamers.
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>>11359607
>>11359612
>>11359618

The main mech is literally a Heavy Gear.
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So from a guy who's never played either

What are the differences between SSZ and SSI?

I've heard all SSI is is SSZ with the plot turned off, you just get fed enemies forever. Are the fights varied? Is it just survival?

Also are the missions in SSZ that are not available in SSI any good?

Also question regarding the robot you pilot: Is it just one specific one? Do you get to chose one? Customize?
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What happened to that Kickstarter game with giant sprites where you pilot a Snoopdog lookalike? it looked promosing
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>>11359551
The mechs are... Barely. They're more walkers than anything in the first two, and the third one had a lot of wasted potential for griiiiind.
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>>11360270
Nope, you're pretty much spot on. Its certainly more faithful to the old SNES Cybernator/Gun Hazard or Gigantic Army games, without doing much improvement over them. It also brings their weaknesses, like limitation to aiming the shield as you pointed out.

I played it with keyboard, using the arrow keys to move, spacebar for jump and QWEASDX for shields, weapons, utility stuff.

It certainly takes some effort getting used to, especially with the needlessly complex 2-step secondary weapon system, but its possible to get comfortable with it enough to use it fairly fluently. I played the first mission a few times, changed the controls a couple times until I felt ok with them.

Despite the flaws, I did find myself enjoying it. It offers 16 missions that are challenging, but fair once you figure out the controls properly for yourself. You assault bases, do d-day style beach landings, fight a giant space boss, explore a huge complex with traps and turrets.

Very satisfying for a single playthrough if not much else.

Then again, I am desperate for games with mechs in them.
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>>11360305
mystery game is also an FM game


FRONT MISSION: ALTERNATIVE

it looks damn good (for its time) and i love how its 3D, with in scale details (pilots/cars/buildings)


dunno how that translation project is going.
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>>11360666
>>The main mech is literally a Heavygear.

It is -Almost- a Cybernator clone down to the leg shape and all. Not that this is a bad thing.
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I just remembered this. This is a game that resembles that old battletech game where you played as a mad cat fighting those robotech transforming airplanes.


Its an arena combat top down shooter that has you fighting an uncertain amount of enemies in a random generated city with a vehicle or mech. Looks interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-gec527sk8&src_vid=RHtRDVpNV1M&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_3985446147
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>>11359298
Is that a flying Hyldofir?
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>>11359350

Yeah, that's the only thing I've seen recently.

Heavily considering it but I'm a bit wary after Strike Suit. But to be fair I only splurged on Infinity and I liked its gameplay despite flaws. Or it's just the soundtrack hitting when the final wave happens.

>>11361168

I could only speak of Infinity so here's what I know.

Infinity is pretty much Arcade Mode Strike Suit Zero. You pilot one of three Strike Suits (each with their specialties, oh and they're all customizable to an extent like what loadouts you can put on it) and for each mission it's just wave after wave after wave. Sometimes there's taking down big cruiser ships, sometimes it's taking down carriers before they escape. Most of the time it's SHOOT EVERYONE DOWN.
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>>11363073
Hildolfr riding a Dodai
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>>11363068
>robotech
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Desert Dragoon's a much beloved strategy game for the PC-98. Story has you joining planet-borne mercs fighting against a corrupt Fed-like governments. No video of it online, but a few good screens.

http://fullmotionvideo.free.fr/screen/G0772.html
http://kakuge.info/k/dd/index.htm
http://www.amusement-center.com/project/egg/cgi/ecatalog-detail.cgi?contcode=7&product_id=636
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>tfw no good gundam game on pc
>tfw no votoms games on pc
Damn, japs.
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>>11359298
This reminds me of an old PS2 game
Seek and Destroy
was pretty boss, if /m/ knows about the afor mentioned game, is it very similar?
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>>11363068
That does look pretty interesting, but something g that's been bothering me is how none of these cool mech games never make it on steam. Kinda pisses me off.
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Did they unfuck Director's Cut yet?

SS is fun, but I'm kinda sour about how they fucked up DC.
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>no more tactical mech games

Thanks japan you fucking pedos

video games are dead!
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>>11365879
>That does look pretty interesting, but something g that's been bothering me is how none of these cool mech games never make it on steam. Kinda pisses me off.
Isn't Brigador the one cool mech game on PC?

Anyway, blame Japan for ignoring the global PC market because the Japanese maket doesn't care about PC.
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>>11365401
>being a PC only neckbeard

disgusting. get off your highhorse and buy consoles. you look like a child by acting like only a PC is worth owning
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>>11352355
I couldn't get past the awful control schemes.
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>>11365982
More like the american market just isn't interested in /m/ games unless it's by a major company. Even then, most of those companies have to have a fantasy element or risk a loss.

European medival-style fantasy is just that hot.
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Wiz made a Windows sequel to their NEC-platform CRW games; it's called Black Magic, with art from Masamune Shirow (I think he did the previous games' art too).
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>>11352587

I'll never understand why people tolerate SHMUPS the way they do.
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>>11367538
It's not directly connected to Shirow's Black Magic, but being a cyberpunk mecha wargame, the influence is there. I'm assuming this game plays much like its predecessor.

More at http://www.shirowledge.com/game.html#BM
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>>11352914

Yeah too bad it's just Halolands with some of the worst voice acting ever recorded and a paltry 20 hours of content.
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>>11353837

>Implying Japan actually innovates anything
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Any one has good download link for heavy gear 1?
The one on tpb screwed up daemon tool.
Had to delete both.
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>>11363313
I have no idea what you are pointing out but if youare correcting me on this.

battletech owns robotech and they did have a mechwarrior cross robotech game for the sega genesis or 32 x or whatever.
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>>11368075
No they don't and that game doesn't exist.
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>>11365702
Not quite, MSGO is pretty fast paced, and it's 50 vs 50 multiplayer online.
Basically Battlefield with Gendums.
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>>11367743
Anyone?
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>>11367743
forget about getting it unless you have a PC from that age. I don't think we've gotten a decent way to run it with current machines, unlike the second game.
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>>11368782
Well, my machine a toaster but it has enough strength to run win7.
Got Heavy Gear 2 as per pasta posted back fre weeks ago and working so far.
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>>11367527
>More like the american market just isn't interested in /m/ games unless it's by a major company. Even then, most of those companies have to have a fantasy element or risk a loss.
No, it's just that the Japanese and a lot of western companies suck at marketing mecha as cool shit.

>>11368782
>forget about getting it unless you have a PC from that age. I don't think we've gotten a decent way to run it with current machines, unlike the second game.
When did it come out? There are all sorts of weird hacks that allow people to play old games out there. Star Trek: Generations has one where you use a non-EXE executable to boot the game, which works somehow, for example.
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>>11365982
aw yeah ring of red, never seen seen anybody else mention that game.
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>>11365401
Emulation.
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>>11368956
It's pretty shit/nonexistent for a lot of consoles/handhelds though.
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Artdink's Tokio puts you in charge of an O'Neill cylinder space colony, leaving to you city management, station maintenance, and control of spaceflight to, from, and around the area. Not so much Gundam as it is a wacky idea in the Japanese bubble economy, but you get to run shuttles and wrangle with politics, so close enough.
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>the anti-fighter mecha is better against capships then against fighters
>the anti-ship mecha is better against fighters then against capships
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>>11359551
not that anon but im hesitating to buy it. its 3ps, and mech action right? i was looking for something under 10/5 $ and it caught my eye.
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>>11369866
Are there any other games like this where you manage an O'Neill cylinder/city?
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>>11369866
>>11370662
Reminds me of the first SimCity with the Lunar Colony graphics applied.
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>>11369866
that looks neat
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>>11352587
Why not both? That's what I did.
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Fucking PS4 Armored Core when
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>>11365401
Spoon

http://youtu.be/QHu970pu5UQ
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You can get titanfall now for like 17-20 bucks. It has some great animations like when the robot picks you up and shoves you into his chest. Or when you are trying to eject and some punches you and rips you out of the cockpit and just crushes you and throws you to the ground.
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>>11370881
Titanfall still blows my mind

>Make game about giant robots
>They are the shittiest thing on the game
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>>11370806
When that DaSII DLC and Bloodborne money comes through.

Unless, FromSoft decides to stick that to more Souls projects.
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>>11370915
I like how the robots are disposable compared to the pilots. It reminds me of gundam how char would jump in and out of his mobile suit all the time and kick ass regardless.
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>>11370680
>>11370721
Some more then. I own this game in the flesh, but I need to extract through a floppy reader before I can get it running in DOS/V.
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Morskov 4 lyfe
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>>11371152
brother!
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>>11371122
Can't you just copy the files? Isn't the PC98 a normal PC?
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>>11360666
Is that a fucking Warthog?
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>>11371222
I'm sure I can read and copy the floppies on an older computer and then transfer with a USB device. Still need to emulate the game once I put an HDI together (PC-98 games made with DOS/V in mind should work in DOSBox).

Tokio 2's a bit different: whereas you run an orbital ward of Tokyo in the previous game, the sequel lets you run an independent station-state however you please. If you wanna have an Egyptian-themed city, go right ahead!
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>>11371399
Isn't there a PC-98 core for Retroarch? That should be easier to use than DOSBox.
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>>11371451
No, but for regular play sessions I'll be using Neko Project II fmgen, which is the preferred PC-98 emulator. Just want to see what DOSBox compatibility is like for a JP DOS/V title.
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>>11371399
wiki said there was an older windows version, is that around? Does it work on semi-modern systems?
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>>11371490
I don't have the Artdink Best Choice versions; they use Windows-era interfaces, not the software windows seen in those screenshots (they also have MIDI music built-in). Will be fun to get them running on a /vr/-grade battleship some day.
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>>11368798
sounds like a sweet case mod
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>>11370881
>Xbone
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>>11371646
There's a PC version anon.

Anyway, I found out that some random ass non-English person singlehandly took translating G Gen Overworld from "a project that not even CrashmanX and /m/ could do" to "completely plausible for release within a year or two."
http://gbatemp.net/threads/sd-gundam-g-generation-overworld-english-translation.369219/
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>>11371728
>Gundam
Bleh.
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I want to play baldr sky zero 2 in english
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https://www.transformersuniverse.com/home
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>>11368143
nigga get your head out of your ass and learn you some mecha
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Are there any Gundam games where I can mix and match parts from different mobile suits?
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>>11372968
MS Sage
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>>11372968
MS Saga on the PS2
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>>11372981
>>11373009
Is that it?
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>>11372968
Gundam Breaker maybe? I haven't played it
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So is Project Nimbus a thing yet?
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>>11372927
That's definitely a Stinger.
or Wasp.
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>>11373023
It definitely looks like their coming along.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZptVomfkwk&list=UUljIaEsW5Yp-zFmAVydm3Cw
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>>11373041

this looks like ac+ssz sorta
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>>11352286
It's easy enough to appreciate if you like mecha. Judged simply as a game though it's not very good. The level design and checkpointing is mediocre at best and terrible at worst, and most of the game outside of the combat feels underbaked.

On the plus side, it looks really pretty, has a great sense of scale (you actually feel like you're participating in big space battles) and being the one guy on the battlefield with the fancy mech feels about as cool and empowering as it should.
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>>11359551
first is great for story/survival, second is co-op fun, third has a good story/details but is otherwise dull and poorly thought out.
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>>11373075
basically first one/condition zero is sort of similar to the older RE series, lots of snow/desolation oh fuck and resource restraints.

Second one is basically a lost planet equivalent of monster hunter/lobby based hack and slash type game. It's amazingly fun with other people, you can literally attach guns and mount on rumble bars on mechs and clunk around. There's no resource crunch like the first one but its the energy is used to power/ammo specific weapons, give healing, power/repair mechs.

3 has good detail, good voice acting, decent story. But its incredibly straightforward/grinding. Go from point A to point B, maybe grind on Monster X, or backtrack to location Y for energy. Energy is basically treated as money, rather than OH GOD MY AMMO AND HEALTH RELY ON THIS SIMULTANEOUSLY AND I"M CONSTANTLY BLEEDING IT.

Most of the giantfuckyousnowstorms are scripted/closer to quicktime events.

Like even in 2 which had no resource problems. You got stranded in the snow clime while fighting a couple of FUCK HUGE BOSSES, and you had to run around digging things out of snowdrifts to use.

In 3 you just sort of shack up in your mech, come out maybe shoot a couple of low in variation enemies while waiting for it to reboot, or shoot ice off its limbs. And thats really it.
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>>11372968
Gundam AGE on PSP
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>>11373014
MS Saga (PS2)
Gundam Breaker (PS3, Vita)
Gundam Age (PSP)
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>>11373346
>>11374117
Worth noting that Gundam AGE works perfect in PPSSPP, so you can consider playing one on PC. There's a half-translation too.
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Who Carnage Heart here? Also an Artdink game, who knew.
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>>11367516
Sounds like you need to git gud.
(Also, you can remap them, get over it)
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>>11377947
Is it PS3 controller friendly?
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>>11370417
Okay, honestly, the Raptor is good against EVERYTHING!

Totally worth the $3.
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>>11377951
You play with a Controller? I'm on the Leaderboards and I use a Keyboard and Mouse.
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>>11377994
I have one hooked up to my PC, yes.
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>>11355664
you don't need to shit on the game right out the gate like that. The game itself is good, balance is just fucked right now which really doesn't matter to someone just starting or to anyone that just wants to get in a mobile suit and shoot niggas
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>>11367507
chill out you sperg he didn't even say any master race shit
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>>11378026
Could've swore that it was controller friendly.
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>>11378057
its controller friendly.
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Hey guys... Strike Suit Infinity is $1.39 on www.humblestore.com today only (9/16). You can find that much in change around your house. Some other good deals too. Mount and Blade is 99 cents. Jet Set Radio is $1.24 (get it, see Japan in 2000, it will improve your life).

Lastly, Assassin's Creed 4, which is probably the only good Assassin's Creed game (because it's Sid Meier's Pirates basically) is $13.33 but that's not a mecha game.

They DO activate on Steam.
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Recently I got myself Crimzon Clover WORLD IGNITION, the game is ludicrous.
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$0.99 for Gunmetal http://www.dailyindiegame.com/gamedeal_GunMetal_1.html
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>>11380176
>playing on Novice

Normal isn't that much worse, anon.
You get to do a lot crazier shit on Normal, too.

Also remember to not get too attached to grabbing the 1UP drop, those are Novice only drops if you've not figured it out yet.
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>>11372927
ok because a surprisingly small amount of people know this

the people who made battletech don't own macross (or illegally stole from macross, or made it before macross), they just licensed the designs of their mechs alongside a few other shows (dougram, crusher joe)

the company who distributes macross in america as robotech decided to get on their ass when the game was first released in the 80's, because the battletech guys licensed the designs only in japan with the original studios who made them

despite the battletech guys greatly altering the designs of those mechs the robotech guys still try and sue them every few years, no matter how distantly related the current design of the mech is (usually the jaegermech or marauder)

tl;dr: fuck harmony gold
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>>11380907
I asked it to be gentle.It was my first time.
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>>11365401
>Votoms

Heavy Gear is the next best thing.
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>>11382568
>Heavy gear
>Looks at copy collecting dust
Well fuck that actually looks good.
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>>11373019

I hope Gundam Breaker 2 lets me make the clusterfuck Ball that's posted here often.

Or at least a ball with Angel wings and the TBR.
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>>11382589
To be exact, that's Heavy Gear II.
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>>11382593
You mean Full Armor Ball?
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>>11382600

Something along the lines of that.

I need Nether Gundam remote weapons.
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I need to start playing the EDF games.
http://gematsu.com/2014/09/earth-defense-force-4-1-kaiju-versus-robot-battles
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>>11383612
?
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>>11382518

Boost mode's the easier mode to get into, for either difficulty.

So try Normal Boost.

Also if you grind long enough for stars you'll eventually unlock the Type Z which, while nerfed in World Ignition, should still be the strongest ship to pick from.
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