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Sup /m/. Survey question: When do you consider an anime old?

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Sup /m/. Survey question: When do you consider an anime old?

I was browsing /a/ and there was a thread asking recommendations for "old" anime, and specified pre-2000. Which is a stark contrast to /m/ where theres tons of 70s, 80s and 90s shows. It seems to me like /a/ focuses on anime from the last 5 or 10 years

Now I grew up in the late 90s early 2000s, and in the early 2000s Cartoon network aired a lot of 90s shonen. For me that's the starting point (Rurouni Kenshin, Pokemon, Dragon Ball [Z], Gundams G and Wing, etc). So I define "old" as pre-1990.

How about you guys?
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According to the few anime-watching people I speak to off of /m/ anything earlier than Evangelion is practically unwatchable, so I suppose that means anything earlier than Eva is old.
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70s/80s

If it aired in my lifetime, then I don't really consider it old.
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>>11056916
>unwatchable
Ugh, I hate how /a/ rips on Zeta for it's animation, then worships all these bright flashy computer generated moe animes like K-ON

>mfw when I like the dulled, hand drawn color pallet
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Prior to the 90s. As a 19 year old I can't consider things I saw as a child on Toonami to be old.
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>>11057008
Same here. That's why I can't fucking stand /a/. They chew on me for watching Rurouni Kenshin and ask why I'm not watching [insert moe schoolgirl anime here] and why I go outside on weekends rather than spending 12 hours masturbating to Touhou characters
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>>11056898
>last 5 or 10 years
It's as I would expect. Every season they show a bunch of new moeblobs. Gotta love them moeblobs.
>>11057018
>leaving your house on the weekend
>leaving your house at all
>not masturbating to touhou characters
Why aren't you masturbating to Gundam characters?
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Anything older than Katsudou Shashin
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This is actually an interesting question. I wonder if people on /a/ would be willing to watch old Disney shorts from the 30s and 40s. The answer's probably no.
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>>11057028
I am.
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>>11057008
This. At 21, anything pre-Toonami anime is older than what I was introduced to the medium with. I'll watch just about anything that sounds interesting, though. I've seen people on /a/ who view everything pre-widescreen standardization as "a neanderthal aspect ratio that I refuse to watch." It's fucking ludicrous.
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> last 5 or 10 years
> specified pre-2000
> last 5 or 10 years

I have news for you anon.

Personally, I'd say anything more than about 10 or 15 years in age is old, because media isn't rated on the same scale as a human lifetime. Especially a media as young as animation. There's only two age brackets it can fit in to after all: old or new. I can't consider something made 10 years ago to be new really, therefor it's old.
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>Anything newer than the original Astro Boy
>old
Get off my lawn.
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>>11057052
A huge portion of /a/ don't care about the story, they care about cute female characters with pasty grey skin and gargantuan eyes giggling for all 20 minutes of an ADHD fueled episode.
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>>11057059
> I can't consider something made 10 years ago to be new really, therefor it's old.
You damn kids
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>>11057059

Damn, meant to link to >>11057028 for the 5 to 10 years part.
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>>11056898
if i can't find decent subs for it, odds are likely its either really new or its just hit the old factor for me, so basically everything from mazinger z and back, and even then, old isn't necessarily bad, i'll watch stuff like the original astro boy or gigantor or tetsujin 28 or the like, but it has to actually be decent like everything else if its crap i don't know why you are watching it.
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>ITT: FUCK /a/!!!

Carry on. I wish moot would make an /ar/ cause there's obviously demand for it, especially when people try to discuss old Uncle Go stuff or whatever like Devilman on /m/ with B-B-BUT IT'S /m/ CAUSE IT HAD A CROSSOVER WITH MAZINGER and stuff like that.
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/a/ hate circlejerk thread?
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>>11057059
I guess you could argue anime being relatively young, but animation itself is pretty old. I would consider videogames to be a young medium, since many adults today could have experienced them from their inceptions.
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>>11057089
Nah, I already got enough of that out of my system for today.
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>>11057089
>>11057088
I'll admit half those posts are mine. I'm still buttmangled over them trashing UC
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I'd say anything pre-90's is old but far from unwatchable.

Anything before the 80's is where I start to have trouble.
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>>11057103
>he doesn't watch crayon shin chan or doraemon or mazinger z or tetsujin 28 or astroboy or giant robo or even ideon.
lol
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>>11057103
>Anything before the 80's is where I start to have trouble.
Same here. Zeta had okay animation, and ZZ and Stardust Memory had good animation. Again, story >>>>>> animation
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>>11057106
I said "start to have trouble", not "I don''t watch at all"
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>>11057114
i know, i was just giving you crap, that's all, we are on 4chan after all.
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>>11056919
>If it aired in my lifetime, then I don't really consider it old.If it aired in my lifetime, then I don't really consider it old.

This.
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>>11057116
Just making sure you didn't think I was a pleb. I gotta keep my reputation on this anonymous image board.
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>>11057122
naw, your not on /a/ after all.
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>>11056898
id say that regular cel animation should be 'old'
while digital should be 'new'
the few that mixed them together kinda should be called 'transitional'
this should work until anime is cg generated
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>>11057132
>this should work until anime is cg generated
So like, next year?
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>>11057098
>comma splice
I have news for you anon...

LoGH is good though.
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>>11056947
I don't even go to /a/ and I'm certain that's not what they do.
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>>11057099
Are you just as derriere devastated by how many people here trash on UC?
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>>11057144
if sidonia is an indication, yeah probs
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Prior to 1984 is where I call the old point.
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>>11057008
>>11057052
You two have weird opinions. I'm 24 and I can admit Gundam Wing is an old anime now. You really cannot deny that over ten years is a long time. You're getting older, you've got to deal with it.
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>>11057183
Just because I'm going to be 20 in just a year doesn't mean I'm old. I'm not getting old. I'm still young. I'm not old, I'm not old, I'm not old...

But seriously I find the idea of not being a teenager terrifying.
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>>11057187
>Turn 20 at the end of this month
>Lost all of my highschool intelligence and acquaintances
>Only friends are online people I've met on /m/
>Only anime and games I like are at least 15+ years old
>Soon I won't even have youth

Don't become like me. Kill yourself now and be young forever. Or at least that's my plan, going out in a blaze of fire that'd make a scopedog jealous.
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>>11057175
Apart form Super Sentai autists, most people here don't
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>>11057164
You're correct if you mean they don't worship K-On!, at least not as much as they used to.

As for ripping on Zeta, I think /a/ just doesn't like/hasn't seen UC in general. Whenever there is a 3x3 thread up the only Gundams I usually see are Turn A or G, if anything else crops up I'm usually convinced it's an /m/ crossboarder.
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>>11057195
Please don't pull an Elliot on us anon.
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>>11057195
>>11057187
At least you guys know how ridiculous that is. This chick I knew when I was in high school had a full-blown emotional breakdown, tears, sobbing, the works, when she turned 20 because she was "old".
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>>11057211
>At least you guys know how ridiculous that is

You just replied to a guy who said he's going to kill himself over turning 20.
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>>11057195
lol chuuni
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>>11057211
>you will never be a child again
Feels bad man
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>>11057216
Yeah I'm just reading that and thinking if he's that stupid to think I'm not overreacting then maybe I'm not as stupid as I think.

Thanks for giving me the will to live on for at least another day anon.
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>>11057225
If you ever think about killing yourself, just know that Mountain Dew is there for you.
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>>11057235
kek
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>>11056898
/a/ focuses on like last week just scarfin down more shit non stop because all that matters is being new
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>>11057263
>implying you can't watch new stuff and old stuff at the same time
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>>11056898
I have a huge boner for old stuff, I love the 70's anime style even if it's totally obsolete compared to the 80's, which is my favourite anime period. I think the 90's is the most boring period for anime, with only Eva standing out, along with some obscure OVAs and movies.

I think most people dismiss "old anime" because they think of the 90s, which didn't have much to offer.
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>>11057263
Thank you, finally someone who agrees. I really tried to get into it, but I hate their board culture. Which is why I hang around here.

It's the same reason I prefer /vr/ to /v/. Because the underaged fagboats on /v/ and /a/ try to be the coolest kid in school on an anonymous fucking websites
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>>11057270
>90's is the most boring period for anime, with only Eva standing out
You what?
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>>11057290
THere's no accounting for shit taste. The mid to late 90's is a delicious buffet of fantastic robot anime, particularly from Sunrise.
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>>11057296
That style of animation is my favorite.
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>>11057290
>Stuff standing out
>Stuff i liked
These are not exactly the same buddy
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>>11057308
Big O's noir style stands out compared to a lot of anime.
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>>11057290
>>11057296
>>11057316
As much as you like Big O, it didn't change anything about anime, neither did the AU gundam series or the Brave series. They had cool animation and glorious moments but we could've had way better than this. Even big hits like Sailor Moon or Pokemon are just another magical girl and a time bokan clone.

The 90's were mostly divided between an anime industry dedicated to kids and an OVA market pandering to otaku and edgy teenagers.
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>>11057395
You can make any generation sound as stupid as that. In the 70's everything was a Mazinger clone and in the 80's everything was a Gundam clone and in the 00's everything was a Haruhi clone.
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>>11057106
Crayon Shin-chan started in the 90s.
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Any anime about a decade old or more I think can be considered "older", as far as anime goes. Not ancient, exactly, but a 2001 production like, say, Digimon Tamers looks a lot different from a production from 2014. (It doesn't help that it was in that awkward period of early digital animation where quality was... varied, to put it best)

The age of an anime doesn't matter a lick to me. Good animation comes from all eras, whether it's a groundbreaking work or just something that's fun and looks alright. Recently I've been watching old kids shows from the 90's (because Brave series and Fun Fun Pharmacy are awesome), but I'm cool with animation from any era, from 60's Tezuka adaptations like Dororo to modern works like Sidonia.

Sometimes I worry people around here worry too much about the age and aesthetic and period a work comes from more than the works themselves. Can't we just enjoy good anime, instead of ONLY anime from the 70's/80's/90's/00's?
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>>11056898
>When do you consider an anime old?
I could just say "never because I'm not a faggot" but I'm just gonna go with 70's.

I still don't give a shit how old something is...except for the part where I instinctively avoid anything made after 2000.
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>>11056898
I'm not really picky about old anime, but if I had to draw a line somewhere, it will be at 1985/Zeta.
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>>11057508
>Sometimes I worry people around here worry too much about the age and aesthetic and period a work comes from more than the works themselves. Can't we just enjoy good anime, instead of ONLY anime from the 70's/80's/90's/00's?
Those are eiter trolls or autists, no one actually does that, especially when anime is an industry full of otaku and anime from our era can look and feel like something older (Shin Mazinger, Space Dandy or KlK are pretty good examples).
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1970s is when I consider an anime 'old'. But that doesn't stop me from watching it either.
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>>11057267
>implying
wow people still do this?
and yeah i really can't watch new stuff from the season because it's pretty much shit. maybe i'd watch a show that's airing once in a while, but most of the time i'm not since only shit is airing. i can't fathom how people watch 3, 5, hell 10+ different shows that are airing without realizing how bad they are.
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>>11057682
a list i've compiled of all the shows i've watched since 2011.

kill la kill, pretty shit
space dandy, pretty good
log horizon, it's okay
samurai flamenco, garbage
saint young men the movie, great
gdgd fairies 2, great
straight title robot anime, great
tesagure!, his worst
kantoku fuyukitodoki, great
gakkatsu, great
poyopoyo, great
tonari no seki-kun, alright
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>>11057709
>saint young men the movie, great
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>>11057709
>samurai flamenco, garbage
Your opinion is garbage
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>>11057668
I wish it were true, but I know way too many people who do have mindsets like that. All new anime is shit, only old anime is good, every show from the 80's was good, all shows from the 00's are awful, etc. It's a damn shame, because there's great stuff across all generations of anime, but people have to find reasons beyond the shows themselves to hate them.
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>>11057729
it had something going on with the first few episodes, and once they introduced "ironic cliches", the show went downhill. you can't tell me that show was any good, honestly it felt like they were writing it as it went along.
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>>11057668
People actually do that. I've heard someone recommend Diebuster because "it looks nicer" than Gunbuster. I don't doubt that the person recommending it hadn't watched Gunbuster too.
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>>11057745
>gets mad about irony in SamFlam
>Likes gdgd fairies, aka irony the anime

:^)
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>>11057749
A friend of mine does that. He refuses to watch Gunbuster because he says it's old and the animation "is garbage" and Diebuster is one of his favorite anime.

Funnily enough he has the most stereotypically /v/ taste in anime of anyone I've ever met and actually thinks he knows shit about anime.
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>>11057018
personally, I'm not a fan of the particular "style" that has become popular this generation.

Obviously there is no one particular style in anime, since a lot of them have their own unique char designs but something like this pic here.

I doubt anything follows it to the dot,but some of the things mentioned I feel are things that do annoy me about them.
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>>11057774
I prefer my anime women drawn in classic shojo style.
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>>11057778
really?
for me at least, classic shojo is a bit too much "gleam"
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>>11056947
KyoAni has good animators.
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>>11057070
>This is what people who never leave /m/ actually think
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>>11057786
Yeah, it's almost got to be a troll. I can't imagine anyone legitimately thinking that.
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>>11057786
I never leave /m/ and even I don't think that. I know that /a/ also likes homosex like Jojo too
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>>11057786
Don't bully /m/. This board is a moe paranoid schizophrentic when it comes to anime
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>>11057786
but you don't have to leave /m/ to notice it.
the moeshit waifu fanservice f/a/ggotry is spreading that's why we have infinite shit threads.
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I watch things from just about all periods because I'm not a faggot. I find girls from the 80's and 70's especially cute and I appreciate the episodic nature of a lot of 70's anime. I have trouble finding newer anime to watch mainly because I don't like watching anime adaptions of other works.

As for old, I usually refer to it as anything before 2000.
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>>11057801
If you wanted to complain about waifu faggotry talk about that anon who makes haman threads every week
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>>11056898
>When do you consider an anime old?
Early 80's or earlier.
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I don't consider DBZ or Eva older and I'm 21. I judge age by how old the medium is. I guess that's strange. I don't consider Super Mario 64 old, but consider Super Mario Bros. 3 old for example.

That being said I can watch all eras, though I prefer 80s and early 2000s for some reason.

Also I have a question for you guys. How do you deal with people who think they know more about you in a subject they don't even spend time with? I know a guy who's tried to convince me during the time of Pacific Rim hype that nobody's watched Eva and the movie was a rip-off of Big-O. I tried to tell him about mecha history and Mazinger and Del Toro's taste but he didn't listen. Also he loves SnK.

Another guy I know tried to tell me DmC Dante is the same Dante as the ones in 1-4 even after I showed him wiki. His argument against me was they were both named Dante and I know he walked away still thinking he was right.

When it comes to stuff like anime or video games or whatever I like to watch it, try every genre, learn about it's history, etc. So it super annoys me when someone who doesn't even care about something like mecha lectures me about it. No idea how to deal with it. It's like bitch, you don't waste your life like I do.
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>>11057975

> Also I have a question for you guys. How do you deal with people who think they know more about you in a subject they don't even spend time with?

Let them wear themselves out basically. If they insist on talking about something I have no interest in, or which they show a lack of knowledge about or what have you I'll just stop replying beyond a mmm, hmmm or other rote responses until they change the subject while I zone out. I don't really care if they're wrong or misinformed if they're not going to care to be corrected. It's not like they're wrong about anything important after all.
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My cutoff line is my own birthday. If it's older than me then it's officially "old". 1988 and older.
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>>11057808
As somebody who likes the character, that asshole has made any legitimate discussion about her impossible on /m/.
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>>11058018

That's pretty doubtful. If you start a thread with some actual legitimate questions or discussions on her it'll probably do as well as any other character discussion thread. Most threads for her are just image dumps or people acting creepy, but I've seen and tried to participate in some actual discussion of her on occasion and I don't even particularly like her, I just consider her well conceived and executed.
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So can someone tell me why there are so many pictures of Bright eating a burger? There's like three active threads with an image related to that right now.
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>>11058077
Because
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>>11058077

Cause it took off as a meme, same as the Bright Slap and acquired a life of it's own where even people not that familiar with the show know about and make jokes about it. Though at least it's impossible to take the burger thing seriously and misunderstand it entirely like the slap.
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>>11056898
Old is when you search for it in the internet the words NEED and REMAKE keep popping out.
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>>11058077
Bright
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>>11058077
loves
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>>11058084
>>11058085
Does he actually eat a lot of burgers? I didn't know there was yet another one.
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>>11058077
burgers.
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anything before 2000
feels old
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If when someone mentions when it was made and you go "shit, was it really that long ago?" - that's old.
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>>11058095
Burgers are all Bright lives for.
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>>11058095
I was rewatching Zeta yesterday. Literally got up in the middle of it, and went to 5 guys because of Bright.
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>>11058246
I'm seriously considering a jog down to Steak'n'Shake over this thread but I don't know if I can justify it at 10am.
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>>11058255
Frisco melt is basically toast, but with meat and cheese. Do it.
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>tfw used to watch original Pokemon and Digimon
>tfw almost 21
I'm starting to feel old
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>>11058258

That sauce tho, my nigga.
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Holy shit now I want a burger. Mecha makes me want burgers. The world is coming full circle

Being in bumble-fuck Texas, what would yall crave? 5 Guys? Whataburger? SteaknShake? I could really go for a bacon bbq cheeseburger...

No In-n-out for about 140 miles, so fuck that shit. ;_;
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I'd say pre-1980s. What's funny is that I've been watching pre-2000s stuff for the past few weeks. New anime is insufferable IMO; moe is the worst aspect of anime IMO.
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>>11058258
I went with a Jamaican jerk and a garlic double.
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>>11058593
Whataburger > SteaknShake
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>>11058691
Someone's bitter about the loss of the lime freeze.
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>>11058593
I don't know any of those places, except 5 Guys.
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>>11058724
Nah, we just don't have Steak n Shakes in Texas
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>>11056898
Anything older then 10 years.

So currently things made before 2005, mind you this moves every year and so.

And Old does not mean bad or better, i just think that a decade is a nice marker.

There are stylistic chioces that are common in most decades (SHADING), but i just say something like "xxies animation" when talking about those to make more clear exactly what.

However do note that /m/in general have much stronger appreciation for classic series then /a/ thus will pretty much in variably recommend classic 70ies/80ies/Early 90ies shows and OVAs over the newer when given the chance.
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>>11058852
This is a burger thread, Anon. What are you on about?
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>>11057222
>you will never be a child again
no anon, the short pants spirit lives on forever.
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>>11057774
Yeah, I don't care for it either. It seems like /a/ sees digital coloring as a prerequisit for liking a show

>>11058477
>Pokemon
That franchise is going to be 20yo before too long.

It seems like just yesterday there were CNN stories about how "the Pokemon fad is sweeping the nation!"
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>>11058077
Not really much of an alternative.
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>>11058732
There's a few of them in Houston, but there's way more Whataburgers and Five Guys.

What is it with mecha and burgers anyway? They're easy to eat for the pilot on the go, I guess.
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I grew up in the 90s/early 2000s so I was raised on Pokemon, Digimon, etc. Nowadays things like Digimon Adventure are considered fairly old to me. However, anything in the 70s/80s is considered "retro" in my opinion.

And I don't think age = quality. Although I dislike the popularity of the moe genre, there's still quite a few good series out there that are recent. Space Dandy in particular is a standout series. I watch anime based on if the plot interests me.
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>>11058095
Yes, he does. The food dispensers on the Argama and the White Base seem to dispense hamburgers primarily. I guess they need salt to season the burgers.

>>11058255
I wish we had one here. Around Thanksgiving they have a caramel apple shake that's amazing. They're in the surrounding cities, but not here.
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>>11060713
This has to be the weirdest promotion I have ever seen.
It implies anyone except us knows that MJP exists.
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>>11056898
If it was made before 1979 it is old.
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