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Source: Kidou Senshi Gundam Daizenshuu (機動戦士ガンダム大全集)
Published 1991/03 by Kodansha (Terebi Magazine)
ISBN-10: 4061784129
ISBN-13: 978-4061784123

Not full translation

"Char Was Supposed To Appear in ZZ"

"The project for Gundam ZZ was started as a direct continuation of Z Gundam, and the story first thought of could be said to be the exact opposite of what was ultimately aired."

"To the left is the initial proposal, and as you can see there are large differences, such as with Emma Sheen who died at the end of Z Gundam had survived and was instead going to die here. But the biggest difference was that Char was going to appear. He was going to switch sides to Haman Karn, and attack the Argama that he was a member of just a while ago. "

"The story in this proposal is a lot darker than what was broadcast"

"Though (Char) is an enemy of the protagonists, in the end he kills Hamaan. But ultimately he cannot come as close to awakening as a newtype as Judau. He is a lonely man who cannot become a newtype."

"The Mineva Zabi appearing in this proposal is very much the real one."

"Many people who watched (Mobile Suit) Gundam and Z Gundam wondered if this little girl would one day influence the world of Gundam someday. An orphan of the Zabi family, though she was a little girl who only existed to be used by Hamaan when she reappeared, something about her gave out a premonition of the ideal newtype. Here, she comes to Earth. It is not an overstatement to say that this is representative of the spiritual fusion of space immigrants and those who stayed on Earth.

"There is not much of a difference in the personality of the Judau in this proposal and the version aired. He is just slightly a bit more mature, due to influence from Emma and Char. The reason is because he was created to be the opposite of Camille."

"(Judau) was created as someone to awaken as a healthy newtype. But that is why in the end he has to leave Earth."
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>>15718493
Sounds better than what we got, as much as I like ZZ.
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>>15718493
>Char was going to appear. He was going to switch sides to Haman Karn, and attack the Argama that he was a member of just a while ago.

>in the end he kills Hamaan


ps char never betrayed anyone in his entire life
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>>15718493
That Amuro looks like Al from 0080
>Many people who watched (Mobile Suit) Gundam and Z Gundam wondered if this little girl would one day influence the world of Gundam someday
Say what you want about Unicorn but I was glad when they atleast did something with that character

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For those unfamiliar, "plamo" is a shortened form of "plastic model". If it's made of plastic, someone can probably help you here!
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>Why won't anyone answer my question?
Try being specific, especially about your materials and process. Post pictures whenever possible; even if the kit/part looks bad, you are more likely to get help posting pictures.

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A guide to other types of plamo:
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= THICK MS GROUPBUILD ==

Build a kit of your choice that's heavily armored, and thick in the thighs/arms/torso/general area. Examples include:
>Dom + Dom Variants
>The O
>Virtue/Seravee Gundams
>Gusion/Man Rodis
>Full Armor gundams (If they're heavily armored, and not guns strapped everywhere like the FA Unicorn)

Non-Bandai kits are allowed, so feel free to whip out a Frame Arms kit or something and work with that as long as you make it thicc as fuck.

Start Date: 6/15
End Date: 8/31

SEND YOUR SHIT TO: [email protected]
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Why is this a thing? I can understand Super and Winning Fumina since they're based on the GM Cardigan and Star Winning, but what the fuck is this?
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>>15718204
Gotta use those Qubeley molds somehow.

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ITT: Characters that carry their respective series
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I don't give a hot gay fuck about oneesama.

If the Protoculture were so smart, then why are they dead?
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deculture
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Turns out intelligence doesn't save you against interdimensional space vampires, you need guts for that.
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>>15718023
Did the vajra and the protodeviln ever interact?

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ITT: post /m/ tropes you like and tropes you hate

>MC and rival have a climactic battle
>their mecha get destroyed
>they confront each other on foot

>show tries to have some realism when it comes to weaponry/tactics
>if the MC is losing a battle he ends up pulling a bullshit sparkly powerup out of his ass
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>Female pilot
>Machine is pink

>Bridge bunnies
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>>15717801
>MC successfully appealing to their rival's sense of honor
>villain trying to help MC
>forgiveness
>when they use the first opening theme as an insert song
>crazy upgrades aren't doing shit, better go back to basics
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>>15717801
>second iteration of the machine is colored black and (optionally) fuckhuge

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>best in rhythmic gymnastics
>misses out big gymnastics competition to watch Metal Heroes

Truly /m/
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>>15717067
Too bad nobody is watching this.
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>>15717067
Not sure if I want this to go the samflam or akibaranger route
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>>15717117
You get WUG or Love Live, with action instead of songs in this one

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E-100 series thread?
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SONIC
COMICS
DEAD
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Say what you want about Sonic, but it tends to have a lot of pretty good /m/ stuff, including best robot.
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http://over-ti.me/releases/space-sentai-kyuranger-22/
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The helmet reflection in this shot kind of triggers my autism
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This episode is magnificent.
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Yay, they briefly team again.

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Also who wins in a fist fight?
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>>15716526
Heero has more plot armor.
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Mika wins by being the better character overall.
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>>15716526
The one who didn't pointlessly die like a bitch.

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So, noon question. I've seen 08th MS Team, the first season of Thunderbolt, and now I'm currently watching 0079. Do they ever elaborate on what each side is fighting about? Do they ever get into the politics behind it?
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Wow. Noob*
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Jesus christ dude, if you've watched those and you still don't get it, you might actually be retarded.
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>>15716132
Uh Thunderbolt and 08th MS Team are both completely character driven.

Just finished reading UFO Robot Grendizer (version by Yuu Okazaki).

Now I have read all 3 versions (I hope there is only these 3) this is the ranking of quality between them:

Grendizer (gosaku ota) > Grendizer (go nagai) >Grendizer (yuu okazaki).

I really dislike Nagai version and find Ota way better written, but his art isnt the best tho. Now Okazaki have a nice and pleasant art, but his stories are just for showing action with Grendizer, it just drags for 20 chapters, all the characters are just for making the action go on, kinda sad that it is like this, but being on Terebi Magazine, I can understand.

And damn, Okazaki was the first guy to ever make a Gundam manga, he also did some Dougram and Votoms manga and another terebi version of Cutie Honey.
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Didn't Ishikawa not also have his version? He might just have been involved with Nagai's version if not.

Most Nagai stuff is complete crap, but I'd recommend Shin Mazinger H-hen to anyone that hasn't read it, it's not translated to any language from what I know, but it's one of the rare incidents of a good Nagai thing, even the art is a bit better.
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>>15715395
>I really dislike Nagai version
>>15715446
>Most Nagai stuff is complete crap
FUCK OFF XPEARSE
You even changed IPs to make these two shitposts. How autistic are you?
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>>15715466
But that fish manga was fucking terrible, not even his loli bagel titties could have redeemed it

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Is it bad taste to plaster half-naked women on your mecha?
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>>15714580

No more than it was to do it on the side of your B-52
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>>15714580
Pinup girls have been a thing since WW2. Probably even before.
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>>15714591

B-52's never had pin-up art, they were introduced after the ban.

B-17 would have been a better reference.

>>15714595

>since

Pin-ups were banned very quickly after Korea

Hello, fellow /m/en. Some kind guy uploaded bd-box of Tekkaman Blade, so I decided to make release with subs. This is the first episode, more will be soon.
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So why not 1080p? Because lines are thick and even deformed sometimes (look at the nose).
Also links:
https://beatrice-raws.org/release/uchuu-no-kishi-tekkaman-blade-720p
https://nyaa.si/view/941521
https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/view/960193
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Just look at those arms.
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>>15714187
I was just thinking of dragging out my old DVDs for a rewatch, now I can enjoy SUFFERING and QUALITY in HD. I'll be keeping an eye on this, thanks dude.

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Compiled the scans from the anon who had been putting them up for months now. Unless Nagano adds something extra to the final tankoubon version, this contains everything that was published for volume 14 in Newtype mag, including the Q&A with Nagano.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/dwtuywucugncvc4/FSS+Vol+14.zip

If anyone is ambitious enough to try to translate this or the previous 3 volumes, be my guest.
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I saw the movie for FSS a year ago and found it interesting but very rushed. So I thought the manga would be a more fulfilling experience. I expected it to expand on the story of the film and explain things more clearly.

How wrong I was. To put it bluntly, this is one of the ugliest, trashiest manga I have ever read. The movie was somehow able to polish up this turd of a series into something meaningful compared to what I had to go through. How should I go about explaining this?

Let's start with the one saving grace of the entire work: the mecha designs. They are indeed beautiful, if a bit ostentatious. When they're standing still, it's a feast for the eyes.

Now as for the other aspects... oh boy.

The author, Mamoru Nagano, cannot draw people, backgrounds, and other aspects that are crucial to make a manga flow. He also does not understand story structure or tone. And from the content he presents in each volume, he is a depraved sexual deviant and probably has some form of Alzheimer's.

I wish I were joking.

To begin with, let's talk about the story- for something that rates itself "Five Stars", I wouldn't even give it such a rank on a ten-star scale. It is that bad.
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>>15714017
Remember when I said the film was rushed, and I expected the manga to expand upon it? It doesn't, and it's just as rushed. Everything that takes place in the first film happens in the first volume. From then one, it jumps into this bizarre mess of short flashbacks and flash-forward sequences, some of which take place in alternate dimensions (no exaggeration), and none of which have any serious bearing or drive the story in any direction. They're all a series of meaningless vignettes filled with disjointed ideas that have nothing to do with one another. You will go from one scene involving a battalion of WWI soldiers fighting a trench battle with hovertanks, to another with some dumb cardboard cutout shounen brat and his mother fighting leotard+fishnet stocking and stiletto wearing Ninjas, to another with half-naked gods and goddesses speculating about the fate of mankind... you get the idea. Random characters pop up only to disappear and be forgotten, until they come back as completely different characters with the same name. The main character himself, Ladios Sopp has around 5 different names and bodies. There is even a pathetic attempt by the author to one-up Tolkien when it comes to making up meaningless dictionaries of terminology that do more to confuse rather than worldbuild. Maybe some people like this kind of "storytelling", but from what I see there's little originality to be had when all these short vignettes are just bland copies of vastly superior works that already exist out there. The funniest aspect of this is that there is even a timeline in the back of each volume that spans THOUSANDS of years, filled with important historic events in the story, none of which we actually get to fully see in the manga. So why was it even included? It doesn't help that most of the setting is just Star Wars with super fetishistic elements added in (which we will get to later, because it is the truly worst aspect of this dung pile).
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>>15714018
The art? Like I said before, the standing robots are nice. Everything else? Not so nice.

Mamoru Nagano CANNOT draw people. Every single character is a stick figure a-la CLAMP, drawn in the same bizarre ostentatious style of the mecha design (works for robot but NOT people), made worse by the fact that they suffer from serious sameface and often go off-model, making them utterly indistinguishable from one another in certain scenes. Think of it like the worst parts of the early chapters of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, only amplified by ten. They also all seem to change outfits every five panels, because Nagano is a fashion designer and he wants the audience to know it, so you can never tell if one character is the same character as the one on the previous page. And since none of the characters have any real depth or personality as mentioned before, you'll soon find yourself seeing nothing more than a handful of fetish fuel talking heads from panel to panel. Speaking of panels- the panelling is awful. Scrunched. No clear transitions. Backgrounds range from blank to ugly dusty wind for no reason, with little variation in between, and with nothing to really look at. And the mecha? Beautiful standing, but the moment they start "moving" it looks so utterly unconvincing. Mind you, there's only so many ways you can move a robot with stupidly high stilettos and an antenna longer than its own head height, but even in that regard Nagano still somehow disappoints. I guess that's why none of the model kits are poseable?

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Does this deserve a chance to be taken seriously /m/? Both the Getter design and the manga
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>>15713489
The fuck do you mean taken seriously? This is a manga, read if you like, ignore if you don't, why would anyone need to take something like that seriously? Fucking autists, seriously why does getter attract so much shitposters these days?
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>>15713489
Your post doesn't deserve a chance to be taken seriously.
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>>15713489
It was merely a question referring to how much it deviates from Ken Ishikawa's work. It feels like it's trying too hard but it's nice to see more Getter material published. We're 20 chapters in, I was wondering if people found it good so far.

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