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Hey /lit/, I'm trying to explain the benefits of getting

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Hey /lit/, I'm trying to explain the benefits of getting a PhD in English at University. I've tried to say my thoughts but I am afraid that I may miss something crucial in my explanation. What would be a more simpler way of helping him understand?
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>>7329910
maybe you should start with what benefits you think are there first?
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>>7329916
I was thinking about that but he was more or less asking from an objective standpoint. He's not that well versed in the world of literature. He's more scientifically and mathematically oriented.
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Seriously, can anyone help? I know I sound like a whiny bitch but, I've been at this for awhile now and he can't go beyond simple ideological reasoning for why I am doing it. In his mind a STEM degree is more beneficial and I don't think he had that much knowledge or respect for the liberal arts.
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>>7330106
*why I shouldn't do it. Not why I am doing it.
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>>7330106
>>7329910
I see no benefit whatsoever, even if you are totally funded you could be making the same amount of money working at a library, be reading the same amount, and not have to fight the tenure battle for 50 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obTNwPJvOI8
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>>7330274
Fuck I'm not even a liberal arts major and this made me depressed. I think I'm going to go lie down.
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>>7330274
Followup!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkluiR5Rns
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>>7330274
Haha, I thought that was hilarious desu.
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>>7329910
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>>7330106
I want it for myself. I would enjoy having a PhD in English.
>But money/respect/value
I don't care about that. I want it for myself. I would enjoy etc...

Repeat ad infinitum/nauseum.
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>>7330274
>>7330292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMvARy0lBLE also relevant for english majors
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>>7330274
>>7330292
this is accurate for people who choose to specialize in literature that was studied to death before it was even written lol
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>>7330337
something tells me that positions for professors of really really really contemporary lit are not as widespread as you may be suggesting
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>>7330274
>>7330292
http://chronicle.com/article/Graduate-School-in-the/44846
http://chronicle.com/article/Just-Dont-Go-Part-2/44786?cid=rclink
http://chronicle.com/article/The-Big-Lie-About-the-Life-of/63937?cid=rclink
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>>7330330

>I like your Blackberry
>I don't like my Blackberry

Got me gud
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>>7329910
I'd like nothing more than to go back and get my PhD. I have a Masters but I didn't get to dedicate myself to my studies and want to get to enjoy that with a PhD program.

That said, most people are getting hired as adjunct faculty these days... So with your PhD you could be getting paid $30k a year. I'm making just a bit more than that teaching with a Masters, and I'm happy that I didn't go into debt to earn my PhD to make the same shitty salary.

Also, just read a bunch of PhD comics.
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>>7330274
But if you work at a library then you're dealing with lunatic homeless people all day long.
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>>7329925
Wut? Anon's simply asking what you think the benefits are. /lit/ can hardly help you express something if it doesn't know what you want to express.
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>>7329910
David Lynch only makes passable movies, it's all stylized symbolic fuck. Trust me, I have a degree in this.
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To learn obviously.
If he starts giving you shit about jobs you could always go into corporate, sales, or pretty much any white-collar job that isn't STEM. Even then you could get into STEM if you knew the right stuff, had the right experience, and knew the right people, I once met a head of a Chemistry department at a large state Uni who was an English major.
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>>7330842
Eh, personally if I was independently wealthy enough (and had no other commitments) to take up a course purely 'to learn', I'd go for a Master's over a PhD. PhDs are all about increasingly narrow focus on a single very small subject. If you're massively obsessed by that one subject I guess it could work, though.
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