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/lit/'s new and improved book and writers poll. Thread #4

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All the votes have now been counted. Although now there are a number of ties on both of the lists which we will sort via this poll:
http://goo()gl/forms/5qTbGX8drA
Remove the () and add a .
This tie breaking poll will be open until 23:59 (GMT) on the 27th of october.
If there are still some remaining ties then we will sort them out by counting the votes the tied authors got on the book list. For example: If Albert Camus and Ernest Hemingway are still tied when the poll is over, then I will count the number of votes their books got in the book poll and sort it out that way. If there are still ties after this then I will just flip a coin.

I have now found pictures for all the authors who are definitely going on the list. I will find the rest of the pictures when the poll closes. I am currently finding the first edition covers for all the books and I am about 1/3 done with that.

Then I'll create the infographic via Gimp. Which will hopefully be done this week. It all depends on how quick I am to learn how to use Gimp.

If you have any suggestions on how the infographic should look like, then please post your suggestions in the thread.

Love you /lit/ as always.
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I'm very proud of our completely illegitimate winner, David Foster Wallace.
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I thought I already told you that T. S. Eliot's name only has one "L", OP. Fix this.
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This looks like a lot of work, thanks for doing this!
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>>7282863
I remember when I was younger I always admired active forum members. Something about 20 years on the internet has made me despise people like you. Fuckin internet heroes in their own head. I hate you on the same level as MMO officers and applications, moderators that try to maintain a political "tone", people who type "first" on topics, whatever. Fact is I fucking hate you.
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>>7282892
you're a douchebag. god forbid someone tries to do something interesting with this community. if you're too jaded, then what the fuck are you doing here? would you rather have another faces of lit thread? fuck, i hate people like you.
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>>7282898
>community

look at this faggot
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>>7282876
Why do you think that he's an illegitimate winner?
>>7282884
Sorry, I've already fixed it. This is just an old screencap.
>>7282890
Thanks, It's been a lot of fun doing this.
>>7282892
Ok.
>>7282904
Community
kəˈmjuːnJti/Submit
noun
1.
a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common.
"Montreal's Italian community"
synonyms: group, section, body, company, set, circle, clique, coterie, ring, band, faction.
2.
the condition of sharing or having certain attitudes and interests in common.
"the sense of community that organized religion can provide"
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Who are the five faggots that voted for fucking Lovecraft over Flaubert, Hart Crane, Saramago, Hamsun, Celine, Twain and Yeats
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>>7282910
>Why do you think that he's an illegitimate winner?
He got too many votes compared to everyone else
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>>7282930
Do you have any proof that he got those votes illegitimately?
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Fuck, what's with the Orwell being so highly ranked.
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>>7282954
No one can provide solid proof, but he's a meme. It's easily inferred. It's like doing a poll on /o/ and the final result being that the best car of all time is a Miata. Or /ck/ and the best food ever being sweet sundae ramen. Suspect at the least.
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>>7282975
he may be a meme, but he's an honest to god excellent writer whose target demographic is exactly this board.
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Casino Royale is listed as Casion
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>>7282892
i completely agree with you
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>27 people haven't read Mason&Dixon
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>>7282975
You need to accept the poll results, and embrace the new sincerity of these rankings
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Friedrich Nietszche 16 43.2%
Italo Calvino 21 56.8%

You fucking faggots.
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>people unironically voted for The Crying of Lot 49

Is this some sort of epic meme? TCoL49 is one of the least interesting books I've ever read
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>>7282892
lol
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>>7282863
You have a lot of free time Polling Anon.
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>>7282863
>tfw you're the only one who voted for Joseph Conrad in the timebreaker
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>>7282863
>Johnathan Clayden's Organic chemistry marked in red

I'd like to see you find me another man explain organic methods and synthesis in the prose Clayden does.
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why
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>>7283123
This is exactly the type of response I would expect from someone who would put Nietzsche above Calvino.
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>>7283690
This is exactly the type of response I would expect from a redditor.
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>>7283344
I'll live. In 2014 he wasn't on the list, on Aaron D list he was 50th, now it's up 20 places.
Also I have other author I like, you know. I did vote Tolstoy and Dostoevsky too.
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>>7282975
He became a meme precisely because he was so popular.
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>>7282975
And his being a meme also means people are more likely to be familiar with him.
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>>7282863
roll
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That one vote for Citadel of the Autarch should probably be added to Book of the New Sun.
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>>7282892
>Something about 20 years on the internet has made me despise people like you.
Nigga, how old are you? If you detest the idea of internet communities and are such a condescending cunt, why don't you go to your senior bingo night instead of bothering people trying to create something for a community as volatile as 4chan? We need more people like the polling anon.
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>>7285081
Didn't the poll anon do that already? If not it's up one place I guess.
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>>7283035
I'll fix it.
>>7283169
This project is eating up all my free time for now.
>>7283318
Are you not trolling? When I google the book all I found was some school textbook or something.
>>7285073
Why are you rolling?
>>7285081
>>7285119
Didn't know it was a part of the series. Thanks for pointing that out. Book of the New Sun has now got 9 votes instead of 8
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>>7283690
Calvino is literally a reddit-tier author
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>>7285668
i always wonder if it's just one especially butthurt calvino hater who tries to force this meme
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>>7283701
>>7285668
[reply]
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>>7285681
Hating Calvino is literally impossible.
Maybe if you combine all his shitposts in the proper order they'll spell out something.
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>>7285698
>literally impossible
Apparently not. Stop being delusional over a mediocre author that reddit circle jerks over.
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>>7285708
That's le cute, you must pretend you don't like the Christian Bible also :)
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>Organic chemistry
Lel
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>>7285539
The best introductory organic textbook out there. That's worth something, right?
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>>7286255
Just how good is it?
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>>7286255
I'm going to look into this. The praise you're spouting reminds me of D'Arcy Wentworth Thompson's On Growth and Form, which was the best biology book I've read excerpts from.
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>>7285539
>some school textbook
Being one vote only it's moot anyway, no harm in indulging anon if they like a textbook this much
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Poll anon what are the current results and will there be a revote on the 9 votes book?
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>>7285539
Do you need help, anon? I'm willing to help and I'm sure other anons are too.
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OP you said OC with top books will be done early this week
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>>7289867
thats good news
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I'd pollinate Polling Anon, if you catch my drift...
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>>7288014
Another channer that shamelessly browses the e-archives!
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>>7282892
Maybe you should stop spending time on the internet then. We really wouldn't miss you.
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Beginner here. Is the /lit/ starter guide any good?
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>>7291352
There are like three. One is good.
Tell me what you like and we can give you recommendations.
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>>7289175
Here is a link to the results:
https://docs.google () com/forms/d/1j6rKiTN2z8frw9xm1_i1Ei8uqpyf5Lj--sfPmZ6ldbo/viewanalytics?usp=form_confirm
Remove the () and add a .
What's your opinion? Should we do a revote on the 9 votes books? Due to the fact that book of the new sun gained 1 vote because of a mistake I made.
>>7289182
You can help by posting ideas or pics of how you think the infographic should look and be like. What information should be present on it?
>>7289867
>>7290900
Hopefully I'll make the deadline.
>>7291326
Wow
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>>7291391
I mainly read genre fiction for the last 12 years (I'm 20 now).
But I think I start discovering the beauty of language. It might sound strange but well build sentences feel so good while reading. Sometimes it's so good I have to put the book or poem away to think about it. It's not because of some great insight in phillosophy structures, but because of the mood I'm suddenly in, really dunno.

Since I'm German, poetry I read is exclusively written by Schiller and Heyse. Love them.

School related I had to go through Kafka and Goethe but I'm too dumb to understand them and I dislike them both.

I've read translations of the the obvious stuff like The Plague, 1984, Moby Dick, Measuring the World, Perfume (German, tho). Those are great.

Tried shakespear, had to laugh so much because the stories are ridiculous. Again I think I'm not smart enough to understand him, yet.

I can't enjoy most of the "bestseller" books shown in the front of book stores. Really boring, level of language is high school tier, not creative at all, no new ideas, characters are shallow. I drop them the moment I read a list of personality aspects, ie.
>Mr. Willingsborth was a well fed man with white, thin hair, an alcoholic red nose and could get angry very fast Forgive my english skills, please, I hope you know what I mean.

Hope that sums it up.
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>>7291546
Could you name a few of you're favorite books?
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>>7291529
The poll will close in 40 minutes
>>7291558
Meant to say your not you're
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>>7291558
Measuring the world and City of dreaming books are my favorites, I guess.

Thing is, almost none of the books I've read, and none of my favorites is what you would call "good". Books I would call my favorites aren't my first choice anymore. Night watch, Kingkiller chronicles and Lies of Locke Lamora were great books 3-4 years ago, but now I don't put these in the first place. Just can't enjoy them on the same level I used to anymore.

But that's the reason why I need some help with the start. I actually want to evolve.
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>>7291673
Based on the books you mention, I can't help you. Sorry
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>>7291546
Honestly just going by the top books here would seem like a good move. Just be sure to skip Pynchon, Joyce and Wallace since they are not something you'd necessary like. For one I dislike Pynchon and found Joyce to be more deserving of my attention so I postponed reading it until I got a hold of an anoted version. Wallace is a meme.
As for something you are familiar with (sff) try
Le Guin- Dispossessed
Wolfe- Book of the New Sun
Leiber- Lankhmar series
Lem- Solaris
Dick- Man in the High Castle
Herbert- Dune
Tolkien- Children of Hurin

Also maybe some Russians so
Dostoevsky- Notes from the Underground, Gambler
Gogol- Overcoat, Dead Souls
Tolstoy- Anna Karenina
Lermontov- Hero of our Time
Chekhov- Short stories
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>>7291673
>>7291558
If you're checking the poll for those 2 books, I have to say, I didn't vote. I'm lurking your polling threads since day 1, but I don't represent /lit/ at all.
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>>7291702
Thanks kind anon. That's definitely something to work with.

>>7291698
No problem. You've helped enough with your poll.
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>>7291702
>Wallace is a meme
For good reason, Infinite Jest is an incredibly enjoyable read and fairly accessible outside of its long length
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>>7291669
And the poll has now been closed. I'll sort out the results and post a screencap in a couple of minutes.
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>>7291826
I'm done with the writers results. But there are still some ties that need to be broken. The ones that are colored purple and blue are the ones that need to be broken. And we'll break them by using the ancient technique of rolling. So everyone quote this post and roll. This post will break the first tie, which is between Dante Alighieri, Fernando Pessoa and Gabriel Garcia Marquez.
If the post ends in:
1, 2 or 3 then Dante wins.
4, 5 or 6 then Fernando wins.
7, 8 or 9 then Gabriel wins.
If 0 then no one wins and the next post to quote this post will decide. Does everyone understand?

The we'll work our way down the list.
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>>7292016
I vote for the Gabriel
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>>7292016
This means Fernando Won
>>7292020
This is a 0 which means it does not count
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>>7292029
It doesn't erase the fact that those three are somehow considered to be inferior to that hack Vonnegut
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>>7292016
Sorry forget about that rolling idea. It will take all night and it's a terrible idea. I'll just use a random number generator.
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Book of the New Sun and 1984 being so high up is an embarrassment.
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>>7292016
Here's the final version of the writers list. All votes have been counted and all ties have been broken via poll or a random number generator. I'm going to do the same for the books and then tomorrow I'll start work on the infographic.
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>>7292104
oh god it's so embarrassing to see Vonnegut above Melville like that.
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>>7292104
And here is the final list for the books. I'm going to sleep now. So good night /lit/ sleep tight. I'll be back here tomorrow and start work on the infographic.
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>>7292346
>Charles Oshimi The Flowers of Evil

wait a minute
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>>7292104
Rilke, H. Miller, and Dazai all behind Easton Ellis, Plath, Bradbury, R.R. Martin, Austen, Pratchett, Tao Lin, Alan Moore, Dick, Vonnegut, Tolkien, and Stephen King.

I hate you /lit/. Why did we allow any of you to vote?
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>>7292374
Oh Baudelaire give me strength.
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>>7282892
Yeah but why should anyone care about what you think or feel esp since you're not a content creator. You're a non-contributor.
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>>7292440
What's wrong with Moore & Dick
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>>7292346
You forgot to give Book of the New Sun that one vote which would make it 26th.
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>>7293478
Nothing. They're good enough writers. But in no meaningful way are they superior to artists like Rilke, Miller, or Dazai.
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>>7292440
Not that I have a problem with half of those authors, but a year and a half ago you had a worse list with Harry potter on it.
Also there has been an influx of plebs with the sff generals so you have part at fault with that.
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>>7293539
They are less known. It's important how often someone is mentioned and how much someone is read. This is a popularity poll, not a best literature ever.
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>>7293544
>>7293545
Then that's where /lit/ should change. More discussion and spread of important, well-made literature, less time wasted on stupid meme-lit (not saying any of the aforementioned writers are memes, just in general).

We should quit discussing any literature and become more e/lit/ist.


We need more good trips, basically.
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>>7293554
This board is largely American. Unless that changes we'll always have the likes of Gaiman, King, BEE, Martin and Vonnegut often mentioned. It's highly regarded there and people read them a lot.
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>>7293560
I'm American. They're still considered uber plebby among literary people.
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>>7293643
Uber plebby Americans come here.
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>>7293142
you're no better than he is
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>>7292346
>I'm a big fan of Prust
>he wrote In Serch of Lost Tme
Bants aside m8, you missed an "o"
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>>7293805
>he wrte about toast
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>>7294543
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>/lit/ compiles the most predictable list

well then
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>>7293539
I believe the poll question was phrased "Who are your favourite authors?" and "What are your favourite books?", not "Who do you think are the best authors ever?" etc. Maybe phrasing it the second way would get more serious literature up there.
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>>7292104
>Richard Yates
this should be in the novels list, no?
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>>7292016
>richard yates in at 100
nice s/o to whoever else voted for him
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>>7294714
i thought dfw would be the winning writer. im kinda upset tbh
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>>7294736
Richard Yates is an author, you miserable...
... 10/10
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>>7294736
lmao this is the /lit/est post I have ever seen
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>>7292346
58/100, who got me beat
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I'm home from work. Now I'm gonna finish finding pictures for the authors and the book covers and then I can start working on the infographic.
>>7292374
>>7292532
>>7293533
>>7293805
Sorry for the mistakes. I was tired when I was doing this.
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>>7294736
10/10
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>>7295000
i like it
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>>7295000
i hope you put the 'the's back at the beginning of the titles for the final image
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>>7295076
I will. I just did that so it would be easier for me to count the votes.
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>>7295000
What should the infographic look like? I was thinking of something like this
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>>7295119
>Grey

No
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>>7295119
The numbers above the covers are totally unnecessary.
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>>7295552
Needed someone to point it out, but indeed.

>>7295119
>>7295182
Make a poll with sample colours / ranges of wavelength* :3
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>>7295641
>>7295552
I don't think so.
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There is absolutely no point to this whatsoever except making the OP feel like he's doing something constructive and validated.
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>>7295119
Here's a work in progress for the writers one (I know it say's top 100 books, but they'll essentially be the same. I've finished downscaling all the pictures to 160 X 240 and it takes some time to do that 100 times.
>>7295182
Some other suggestions would be nice then.
>>7295552
>>7295876
I think I'll keep the numbers
>>7295888
How so?
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>>7295888
Yeah but I love doing that honestly
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>>7295888
But it is constructive. It's creating something that we decided as a community of anonymous shit posters. I like it.
>>7295898
Only thing is I wouldn't put the votes there.
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>>7292104

>tao lin but no thomas hardy...
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>>7295928
I feel like the vote count has to be there. Because they show much more than just the ranks of each book or author. The vote count shows how many users on /lit/ like each book and author.
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>>7295988
It's just embarrassing for the board to have the 80-100 authors have like, 2 or 3 votes. It just looks like bullshit.
It would be another thing if this were a bigger board but it's a really small pool and around the end literally came to a dice roll. Leave the illusion of a big well read board.
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>>7295962
love his acting but is his writing really that good?
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>>7295988
>>7296011
that.
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>>7296011
Why should I hide the fact that we are a small board? By leaving this information in we get a better understanding of /lit/ and it's users
>>7296034
What?
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Was his face stuck like this or something?
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>>7296094
>my prose is shit and they fell for it chuckle chuckle
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>>7296029

>Thomas Hardy, OM was an English novelist and poet. A Victorian realist in the tradition of George Eliot, he was influenced both in his novels and in his poetry by Romanticism, especially William Wordsworth.

Are you sure we are talking about the same person?
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>>7296108
I like him but is prose is pretty poor tbqh
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>>7296113
cool, was that before he did Bane and stuff?
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>>7295898
Here's the first somewhat completed version of the writers list. If you have any suggestions for alternative portraits to be used, then post them in the thread and I'll consider them. (I'd prefer if you could scale them to 160 x 240. Since that would save me some time rescaling every portrait posted)

We also have to decide on a color. I might make a poll for it. But I'm hoping that we can just decide it in the thread.

I'm off to sleep now. Good night /lit/
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>>7296160
night night anon
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>>7282863
Nice, ma boi beckett hittin the top 40. Never see him discussed on here
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>>7296160
Nice work man. I for one appreciate your efforts. Thank you Polling Anon.
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>>7293664
Well thanks, Captain Obvious.
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>>7296160
Thank you for taking the time to put this together.
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>>7296160
>>7296432
>>7296484
Yeah, OP. You're the man now dog.
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fuck's sake guise make a fancy infographic already you're rustling me here
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>>7296160
why are you such a noob with software anon? please just use indesign and auto downscaling
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>>7296432
Be sincere, mate. : ^ )
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>>7294817
>tfw 53
I was so close ;_;
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>>7296160
NO
CHANGE CRANE'S PICTURE
USE THIS ONE
IT'S RARER
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>>7296160
Thank you based polling anon
I suggest pomegranate for the color
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>>7296160
Almost all of the portraits are in black and white. There are only 17/100 portraits that are colored. So I was thinking of having all the portraits in black and white? How does that sound to you guys?
>>7296394
You too.
>>7296431
>>7296484
>>7296582
Thanks
>>7297120
These things take time.
>>7298602
I've never done anything like this, that's the main reason. And I can't auto downscale all of the portraits, since most of them needed some cropping.
>>7298796
Something like this? Sorry for the shitty quality and everything. I just don't want to spend too much time on a first draft of a desgin.
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>>7299369
What typeface should I use? I was thinking of Century. Any other ideas?
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>>7299369
Sounds great, you could tune them black-white in GIMP. Also try to use a layer to get this annoying grey out.
Red is fine, maybe a bit more brown mixed with it would look nice, but dunno.
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>>7299369
b&w b&w b&w b&w all the way
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>>7299389
>>7299369

Scratch the "more brown color" idea. The color is really nice, I changed my mind.
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yes, make all b&w
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>>7299389
>>7299391
>>7299403
>>7299413
Here's how it will look like.
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i also second getting rid of the vote count
leave it all up for debate
we can imagine tens of thousands votes to discern these huge, objective poll figures
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>>7299468
Definitely looks better with everyone in black and white.

Are we all agreed that Gogol (#46) is the most ridiculous-looking man on the list?
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>>7299468
Looking good. Have you decided on a font?

I'd recommend making the author's name white, and the number of votes in a light grey, so that they're readable but don't grab the eye as much as the names.
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>>7299468
yeah the vote count, especially in the lower half, makes it seem less legit. Its very legit. We are all educated academics.
but for real the sample size is too small to make it serious.
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>>7299491
But showing the vote count, shows the vote distribution which is also an important factor when it comes to polls.
>>7299519
Couldn't do it in light grey since the background is kind of light grey. We could change the background color however.
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>>7299604
Pick a grey halfway between the background colour and white. Problem solved.

If you want to go for a dark grey, go slightly darker than you've already done, that's barely readable at the moment.

Finally, have you considered putting the first and last names on separate lines, to allow for a slightly larger font?
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I'm strangely upset that no one suggested Grant Morrison when we have Moore up there. Morrison is /lit/ as fuck.
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>>7299618
I Made the letters bigger and I made the grey a little bit darker. I left the color unchanged under Nabokov so you can see the difference.
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>>7299713
New gray looks better. You're doing god's work, Polling Anon, assuming that God is our collective consciousness.
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>>7299713
shitty font. Use Helvetica instead
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>>7299805
Thanks
>>7299836
Not gonna pay 35€ for some font.
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>>7299863
there are free alternatives
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>>7299713
I don't like the background colour.
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>>7300007
Saying you don't like something doesn't help me. Suggesting something better does.
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>>7300018
Maybe a bit darker? that way you could have the names in white and the votes in light gray.

Vertical spacing is a little off too. Too much room b/n text and next row of heads. thanks for doing this.
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>>7299713
looks good.

>tfw you didn't take the picture of Bernhard eating ice cream
>tfw Bernhard is next to gurrm

oh well..
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>>7299713
I've finished the first completed version of the top 100 authors list. If you have any suggestion for changes then feel free to post them. Also point out mistakes if you find them, so I can fix them.
>>7300048
I'll try some changes to the background tomorrow.
>>7300098
Thank you.

Good night /lit/ I'll be back tomorrow and start work on the top 100 books infographic.
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>>7300213
Good night
Good morning
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>>7300213
Holy shit how much trash got in :(
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>>7301558
Yeah, but I'm still relieved that at least Gaiman and Houellebecq made it!
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>>7300213
Glad I got Stephan King in. I had to make like 8 google accounts for this
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>>7300213
I'm sure the original poll was open for a longer time period than 10th - 12th October, wasn't it open for at least a week?
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>>7301651
ayy
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>>7300213
take the votes out
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>>7302918
'no'
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>>7301840
Sorry I meant to write october 8th til october 19th
>>7302918
Can someone come up with some decent arguments for removing the votes. Because the arguments so far have been pretty bad,
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>>7282876

You don't get this board
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>>7303118
The only argument I've seen has been "it makes the lower tiers look less legitimate because the board is clearly not super well trafficked," but honestly I'm totally fine with that. We're a small enough "community" that 2 or 3 passionate fans of a given author affect the board's attitude toward that author, and that is totally cool and fine with me.
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>>7303118
I get those who want the numbers removed, they can detract from the darker portraits and smaller names (maybe better in dark grey too?) and make up a completely wrong scale anyhow, as the votes show.
Removing the votes, though? Can't see any reason at all, aside from wanting to hide the fact that the bottom third have only 2-3 votes, which is a terrible reason.
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>>7302918
This. It looks far better without them.
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>>7300213
>neil gaiman
>tao lin
>grrm
top kek we look reddit af
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>>7303118
Here is your argument.

This list is called "official" and should be taken seriously. But as an Anon who didn't vote I see this list and I can't take it that way.

See, for example, I like Richard Yates, and if I participated in your poll I would have voted for him.

With a bit luck in the after poll, he could have jumped straight to No. 65. That are 35 places with only a single vote!

One vote can change the outcome of your poll by more than 30%, one third!
I can't use a list that is that inaccurate.

>But it's a list for frequent /lit/ users not for you reddit pleb!

But /lit/ already knows the outcome of the poll. They don't need a reminder that RY got 2 votes. Hell you don't even need that list anymore but to show it to people who don't come here everyday. And for those users it would be far better if they didn't know the exact amount of votes.

As an alternative, you could scratch No. 25-100 and make a top 25 list, including the vote numbers. But I don't recommend that. Top 100 is way more impressive.
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>>7303966
>I can't use a list that is that inaccurate.
The list perfectly captures the preferences of the people that voted, as it was intended to do. You didn't vote. The fact that it doesn't capture your preferences doesn't make it inaccurate.

You want to complain, complain intelligently about the sample size being too small (which it is). Your followup argument about the poll lacking utility is just stupid, since neither you nor I could have guessed the exact outcome of the poll before it was conducted.
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>>7304015
>Your followup argument about the poll lacking utility is just stupid

I never said the poll was useless. I said the list is useless if it is only for "frequent /lit/ users." Because those users voted in the poll and do know the outcome now. They don't need a list.

People who don't lurk /lit/ that often need such a top 100 list.
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>>7304015
sample size being too small = inaccurate
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>>7303966
What you're arguing is that the poll is useless (for the purposes you've stated). From there, displaying or not displaying the votes doesn't make it any less useless, it just informs or misinforms whoever looks at the chart. That doesn't even sound like a choice to me.
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>>7304121
So, you don't want to impress people? You want to tell them the truth? But why making a "TOP HUNDRED LIST" then?

Why don't you make a top 25 list? Which would be more useful and handy?

Why don't you make a top 336 list? Which would be more informing?

Top 100 just combines the 2 negative attributes of both alternatives. It is unhandy and uninforming.

I tell you, scratch the vote count, keep the given list and put a link to the google docs poll in the lower left corner so everybody is happy.
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>>7304121
>>7304015
>The poll is useless

Where do you read that? I never said it.
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What color should the infographic be?
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>>7291725
I don't know if you're still in this thread, but you would probably enjoy some of Vonnegut's works and The Master and Margarita.
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>>7304274
I'm off to sleep. I'll be back tomorrow to finish this.
Good night /lit/
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>>7304274
That's not bad
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>>7304274
Looking good polling anon!

Though I do hope in the final version the orange, if orange is indeed what we go with, isn't so bright. Drowns out the contents.
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>>7304274
I don't want to sound like a twat but I know I'd like if we had a different Brothers Karamazov cover. The one in the graphs is the P&V translations and those two are bloody butchers.
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>>7306054
I'm going to post some more covers that I would prefer to what's currently on the chart. Up to you what you want to use Polling Anon.
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>>7306060
Actually I take that one back, the Constance Garnett in the chart is fine.
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>>7306064
For Lolita I would vote for either this one or the first edition.
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>>7306054
I think he chose them based on how nice they look. The Moby-Dick cover, for example, isn't even real.
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>>7304274
Book of the New Sun is the cover I object to the most strongly. This would be my choice, although for some reason Wolfe always gets the worst fucking covers.
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>>7304274
This is the first edition of Sirens of Titan. How can you not love that hilariously incorrect description.
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>>7304274
I would vote this Iliad
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>>7306054
Is the Avsey translation with getting to read the Brothers Karamazov again? I've got several translations of a lot of Dostoevsky's works because I unfortunately started with Garnett. What would you recommend for Demons?
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>>7306083
>for some reason

The reason is pretty obvious desu senpai
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>>7304274
Actually, how about this first page of a first edition as the Brothers Karamazov pic
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>>7306112
I'm reading the Mcguire Demons at the moment and he may be the best Dostoevsky translator I've read. I read Avsey's The Idiot and it was better than P&V but a little loose and modern. I don't think he conveys Dostoevsky taut, neurotic style as well as Macguire, McDuff and Magarshack.
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>>7304274
>>7306054
>>7306118

Oh snap. I take it all back. This should be the cover.
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>>7304274
I think a dark grey would be good.
#212224 maybe.
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>>7304274
My last suggestions is that I really like this Anna Karenina cover
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>>7304274
maybe consider switching the cover for the crying of lot 49 to this. It is ,IMO, a far better cover
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>>7306167
I actually prefer the one in the chart. I'd never seen it before but I feel like it captures the mood better.
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OP your typesettings skills are a fucking catastrophe. Everything is wrong.
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>>7306167
At the very least it's more iconic, and doesn't bash you on the head with the horn symbol.
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>no longer human
>quintessential fedoracore
>54

good thing there wasn't a screening test to vote
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>>7304274
grey like the author one imo
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>>7306418
>I didn't understand or like a book
>Also it's japanese so it must be for neckbeards
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>>7306618
this board has already confirmed to be full of existential teenagers like yourself in the survey threads
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>>7292104
>>7294736
You all know damn well that at least half his votes were from people who have seen the Tao Lin novel spammed on here.
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>>7306662
Your point?
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>>7306662
This.

>Make the background colour grey, because so it looks like I am a serious, intelligent adult who's mind works on a high logical level and isn't distracted by feelings.
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>>7295000
dustyebbsky represent!
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i just want everyone to know that choosing between V. and East of Eden was hell
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>>7307695
When most author pictures are grey, it only makes sense not to have the bloody background upstage them. Might've preferred white though.
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>>7305987
>>7306049
I don't think I'll use orange. It was just an experiment.
>>7306054
>>7306060
>>7306064
>>7306075
>>7306080
>>7306083
>>7306094
>>7306125
>>7306149
>>7306167
To all of those wondering about the covers. The first editions have priority over others. Although some of the first edition covers are pretty ugly. Lolita's first edition for example is not very pretty. I also want to refrain from using title pages since they aren't the actual covers of the books, although I have made some exceptions.
>>7306145
>>7306513
I don't want to use a grey color for both the book list and the author list. I want it to be unique so you can see which list it is just from the thumbnail.
>>7306361
As I've said many times over: I've never done anything like this before.
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>>7304274
I hereby declare this post to be the inaugural use of this image for pointless /lit/ dick measuring:

I've read 66, has anyone who browses here read all 100?
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>>7309951
Only 40.
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Observe the typography, layout, how certain areas are highlighted, important areas are more visible than less important areas, etc.
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Here's the first somewhat completed version of the books list. I'm not going to be making any major overhauls on lists, but feel free to post suggestions none the less.

The only thing that remains is to fix what need fixing on both of the lists and then I'll make a final thread when that is finished, so we can reach as much of the users as we can. Then when that thread dies, the Polling Anon will be no more.
>>7310244
If you want to make your own version of the list, then feel free to do so. I'm not going to redo everything now, not when I'm so close to finishing everything.

Thank you for everything /lit/ I love you
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>>7310540
7

But srsly, don't use grey for the authors.
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>>7310540
saved
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>>7310540
>.jpg
Lad

Also check out the black sci-fi guide in the wiki
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>>7310605
What other color should be used? Something like greentext?
>>7310636
But this probably won't be the final version
>>7310642
Couldn't export it in .png format without the file size being to big to post
Which sci-fi guide? It's impossible to navigate the wiki properly
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>>7310642
jpg is better for these kind of pictures
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>>7310679
>>7310679
I think it's better if you don't show the votes, it doesn't really matter
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>>7310540
It would be better without the vote count
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A-am I /lit/ /lit/?
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>>7310745
>he's never read Portrait or Ulysses

>>>/his/
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>>7310902
>>>>/his/
nice
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>>7310719
>>7310726
I'm maybe thinking of making a entry on the wiki regarding information on the poll (Vote count, duration of the poll, participation and such). Then I could remove the vote count from the infographic and hopefully make everyone happy. What do you guys think?

Anyway I'm off to sleep, I'll be back here sometime tomorrow to put the finishing touches to the infographics and make a final thread and then it's over.

Love you all.
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>>7310902
kek
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>>7310918
Sounds like a good idea.
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>>7310918
Good night~

>>7310745
Good job on the Stirner but for pity's sake, do get some Joyce and Pynchon into you.
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>>7310940
>Good job on the Stirner but for pity's sake, do get some Joyce and Pynchon into you.
I read Dubliners and Crying. I have their other books on my list, but now I'm with Crime&Punishment.
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Do people really consider The Metamorphosis or The Trial to be superior to The Castle?
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>>7310958
I do.
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>>7310958
Yes, people with good taste.
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>>7310958
Trial>Castle>Metamorphosis
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>>7310958

Amerika > The Castle, The Trial & The Metamorphosis
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>>7311158
>Amerika
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>>7312479
>what is german
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>>7310540
I don't understand how If on a winter's night a traveller is before Invisible Cities, the latter is clearly superior
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>>7313495
Let me get this straight, here you can't understand how variations in reading habits, familiarity with the books, not to mention accessibility thereof, and taste, can lead to a difference of one less person, 20% less, four to five, referring to Invisible Cities as their favourite book, instead of If on a winter's night, on a mongolian brimmed hat enthusiasts' urbanism tips exchange platform? Really?
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>>7313551
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>>7312482
Maybe he was getting mad that people publish the book under that gimmicky name when Kafka wanted to call it "The Man who Disappeared"
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>>7310540
polling anon
any chance of you uploading the source file of the infographic ?
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OP, what >>7293545 says here is key. When you make the graphic, don't phrase the title as you have done for the prelims ITT, phrase it (or include a footnote or something) to disambiguate these ideas.
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>>7282910
count me out of your "community" with my years of reading for pleasure not polls. I'll stick with reading the books not ranking them like a sophomore does his one night stands.
>>7282892
yeah, the "my ideas are better than your ideas because i'm the one who speaks for you" dictatorships all that list wind up as invariably lead to stagnation where someone tells you "haven't you read the poll to make sure your opinion is popular?" not any free exchange of ideas
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>>7299369
may I appeal to you to replace your Borges portrait with the portrait taken by Dianne Arbus? pic related. she's kind of a big deal in photo circles.
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>>7282863
Polling Anon, do another poll but for non-fiction.
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>>7300018
he's right. it was a good choice to convert all the pics to B&W so that it wasn't as taxing to the eye. However, making the background grey is MORE taxing to the eye; contrast is needed for ease of differentiation.

I liked the wine color, it made it look like one of those classy old leather-bound books. You might try actually pulling a red with the dropper tool from a pic of that type of book if you wanted to get fancy. my 2 cents.
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>>7313746
>this not that
I hate every single one of you assholes who have this writing tic.
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>>7313785
I do it just for you baby or not
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>>7310918
Do it.
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>>7313670
I'm uploading every file related to the poll on to mega right now. It should be ready in 30-60 minutes.
>>7313731
Should it say /lit/'s 100 favourite books or something then?
>>7313758
Done
>>7313760
I'm not gonna make any more polls for a long time. This project was a lot bigger than I anticipated and has taken a lot of my free time away from me.
>>7313782
Something like this?
>>7313807
I'm working on it
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>>7313670
Here are all the file related to the poll in a rar file.
https://mega.nz/#!t0tkjayL!Kffoi5-j2UWvL2XOpiDW4kFQsGJ9PKD48ERhqSwYHmI
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>>7314401
>Should it say /lit/'s 100 favourite books or something then?

eh, the little explanation below the title suffices, I guess

>Done

awesomes!

>Something like this?

I like it.

Thanks, OP. Good work.
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>>7314620
I think I'm still going to use this one. But you can use that one if you want to. I put some the same text from the writers infographic under this one.

And now I'm going to make the final thread.
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>>7314697
Made the final thread.
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>>7313758
It's kind of a mystery to me why she is big. She doesn't really do anything interesting with composition, all she does is choose her subject matter well. She's more journalist than photographer imo.
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>>7313758
I don't understand how a photographer being kind of a big deal in photo circles is supposed to be an argument in favour of getting a headshot out of this picture, in which JLB looks like he politely has no idea what he's supposed to be trying to do.
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>>7282863

>tfw I'm the only person who voted for Alice Munro, Breece D'J Pancake or Sherwood Anderson
>tfw Neil Gaiman got more votes

what the fuck, /lit/
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