>"muh vagina"
>>9607018
Not a very interesting thread senpai.
>>9607029
If you'd read the book you would understand.
>>9607018
butthurt tranny detected
Why is this book so hard to read? I'm starting to realize I'm a brainlet because it takes so fucking long to even understand one page in this book sometimes.
>>9606686
that's the pleasure of it, isn't it? they're little puzzleboxes to open up. nothing so hard that you can't figure it out with a bit of effort. just sometimes nice to go through such little mental exercises. plus it's worth it for how neat some of his ideas are.
Many of the crazy-seeming twists of fate or cruelties have some basis in history. So Ficciones = Fictions but a lot of these "Fictions" have a foot in reality.
Sorry, this post probably doesn't address your problem at all.
Can always try some of his other stuff first too.
The reason poetry is losing prominence in our lives is due to the Information Age.
Poetry left our lives just as information became more easily accessible.
When we read prose, we are reading in an 'information-retaining' style. Each word that follows, one after the other, we take in to materialise a story or a piece of information in our minds.
If we pay proper attention, it is unnecessary to go back and reread to grasp the narrative.
We are used to quick information now--we want it quickly, efficiently, and as concentrated as possible.
Poetry, the reading and comprehension of it, requires a different reading style.
It requires constant rereadings, analysis of techniques, such as enjambment, caesure, alliteration, assonance, rhyme, meter, oxymoron, repetition, rhythm, etc.
While these are all found in prose works, it is still designed in such a way that it does not need rereading to grasp it.
Take a poem that may only be a couple of stanzas in length. It is not much, if I read it like prose it would take 15 seconds.
But if I read it like that, I will not grasp the full potential of the poem. I will have a surface level understanding of its themes and techniques.
We are all so used to reading quick pieces of information, that distinguishing between a poem, and a short piece of prose, is virtually incomprehensible for most people, including a lot of people here.
>>9606685
poetry is shit anyways, i'm glad this meme is finally dying
>>9606747
> I am a textbook example of OP's post.
Why does everyone say "start with the greeks?"
my diary desu
>>9606062you expected me to tell youto start with the greeks?
it's a homosexual code
fuck you /lit/
this shit is fucking terrible, everything from the pace to the characters is fucking awful
it felt rushed as fuck and the pacing was all fucked up
why is it so revered?
>>9605932
heh, aren't you meta? so butthurt that you would pretend to be me by using my callsign of lacking capitalization, and attempt character assassination by creating this thread with subpar criticism.
*slow claps*
>>9605942
a schizoid in its natural environment
>>9605932
I like the setting. The use of odd words to describe things is fun if you like learning new words or seeing rarely used ones presented.
Can you provide some closer examples of what you did and didn't like?
This prose from 'Count of Montre Cristo' is horrible though. It's one long run on sentence. None of the ideas are really connected. Can someone explain why writers were so retarded back then?
>>9605696
please don't read it. it's trash.
>>9605696
Back then children could not afford books, so writers wrote for people with better short term memories.
I don't know /lit/ too well but it seams like 19th century writers preferred clauses to sentences.
Dickens is a master of it. As far as I can tell the lack of inflection in English makes clausing a critical component of writing, and should one wish to carry on in a manner such as this, I should only caution that they might exhaust the reader, which reader, if he is modern, is especially susceptible to getting bored without the consistent arrival of full stops at an expected pace which matches his haphazard attention,short of challenging his mind by constructing sentences that undulate and flow, flow past the peaks and hollows of the finite realm it normally traverses on its way to the oceanic bliss of comprehension, causing him to earn his salt-water through a careful, long flow with many turns and meanders, nonetheless making its course as any river does.
is she /ourgirl/?
>>9605535
>look at all mu books pls
>im soo smart XDDD
Your most /lit/ lit. critics?
Also
>Who is missing from this 3x3 as the most /lit/ of all time?
inb4 Neatcheese, Fou-I fuck kids-cault, or Judith Butler (nothing clever here, she's just a flaming lesbian)
>>9605434
Put Boccaccio in the white famalamadingdong.
>>9605434
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>>9605434
Frye
So does anyone else have no idea what the fuck is going on like 65% of the time
>>9605407
It's almost like you're not meant to
>>9605407
No.
Slow down. Do your research. Don't listen to the "don't worry about understanding everything" meme.
>>9605417
What type of research would you recommend? I'm already like 400 pages in btw
What if a child prodigy was born in the medieval times and had levels of literature so vast that it pushes the human psyche and is able to stroke multiple emotions with a single sentence. What would happen to him?
he would write the divine comedy
>>9605398
Isn't that book just an edge fest self insert fan fiction? Next.
ebin fantasy op
Is this worth reading in English translation, or is too much of the aesthetic quality lost? Are people like Bloom, who say that this is some of the best literature ever created, but only read it in English translation, just pseuds full of shit, or not? What is the best translation?
translations being bad is a meme. italian monks living in monasteries read translations of the greeks and derived far more pleasure and meaning than we can with our annotated editions and scholarship
just fucking read it
>>9605121
anyone else got better justification than "it's a meme"?
>>9605544
Well if you're that concerned about it learn mideval Italian.
I just got my first edition of the New Criterion. Did I just accidentally buy a yearly subscription to conservative trash?
You'd think it would be better than US neoliberal trash, but you would be wrong. The political commentary is just a bunch of snide remarks couched in tangential academic allusion. Am I just wrongly skeptical of conservative thinkers, or is conservatism literally just for intellectual bottom-feeders?
>>9604126
You dun goofed if you're a stalinfag.
>>9604126
Conservatism is useless. Just read NRx.
>Buying subscriptions to newspapers or magazines in 2017
What are you, retarded?
ITT: we post pictures, and others recommend a book that best represents that picture.
I'll start with this.
>>9603881
That's Rodya from C&P
>>9603881
goddamnit i havent seen that pic for years. Like 5 years. i never wanted to see it again
Why is great literature filled with fart jokes and perverse sex?
>>9603394
because it's immediately and unabashedly human, and for all our refinements, that which connects us is raunchy sharts in public situations.
>be a scholar and a monk
>aristotle, plato, the bible, quote it with ease
>"flibber-jibbet humungous dicks!"
Very good, Rabelais. Very good.
Butts and dongs are pretty funny.
>Christianity is much more atheist than the usual atheism,
What did he mean by this?
>>9603381
you sure that's what he said? sometimes it seems like he has a sock in his mouth so it's hard to tell. perhaps he was talking about the effect of Denny's grand slam after a night of drinking on the psyche?
>>9603386
I wouldn't be surprised, He is always making up paradoxes, even if it makes no sense.
>>9603381
Link to the whole thing pls.