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>The number of pages Marx and Engels devote to attacking Stirner in (the unexpurgated text of) The German Ideology, in which they derided him as "Sankt Max" (Saint Max), exceeds the total of Stirner's written works.
How could one man cause this much butthurt?
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>>9615136
>How could one man cause this much butthurt?
because its amazing how retarded he is
only thing dumber than stirner are the idiots who shill him. just look at your pic. what a fucking joke. stirnerites are cretin proles with delusions of grandeur. its nauseatingly stupid.
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>>9615547
/thread
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>>9615547
just like your lord marx: not a single argument!
What's the best version of the Bible to read, from a literary view? i.e. I'm not looking for religious inspiration, but more to appreciate the allegories and such within.
Also, anyone have recommendations for one that is nice to hold (and not some paperback nightmare)?
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>>9614961
A KJV epub.
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>>9614961
I recently converted from KJV to NRSV and I like it a lot. Same powerful rhythms without having all the -eths
Some parts have changed meanings (but its supposed to be a more accurate translation)
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>>9614973
I'd argue that the KJV is the canonical bible for Prodestants/Catholics, and practically supersedes the original texts.
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>he thinks human nature doesnt exist
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human nature is a system and systems are man made and thus have no objective basis.
>muh Platonic forms
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>>9614937
same can be said about your sentence :^)
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>>9614937
>systems are only man made
WEW LAD
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>can i get you some fucking fruit juice
>this is water
>mfw
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>can i get a cup of coffee with no sugar
>sorry sir we can only give you coffee with no cream
>mfw i still get capital W water
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>working at college library
>one of my philosophy professor's approaches me
>humiliated because I have a late paper and am on my phone
>"hello anon"
>"hello Dr. Rawsthorne"'
>"writing a novel?'
>I am totally taken aback
>"what?"
>he smirks
>drop out
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>>9614966
>At someone's house
>Get offered coffee
>It's in a fucking bowl
>It's filled with sugar and shitty Canadian milk
Quebec was a mistake
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This might seem dumb, but I have a question. I really liked the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion and I was wondering if there is an any literature that comes close to it that I could read. If you couldn't guess by what I am insinuating, I am looking for some books that really fuck with you psychologically and make you question everything.
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>anime
stopped reading right there, kys weeb
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The Holy Bible.
Fucked me up for 31 years now.
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the torah
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Which books do you think are going to be future classics?
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>>9614839
This. Anything that gets shilled by movie deals.
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is there a chart of reccomended modernists? i love that 1920s-1940s avantgarde feel
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Thomas Mann (Germany): "Buddenbrooks" (1901)
Henry James (USA): "The Golden Bowl" (1904)
Joseph Conrad (Britain): "Nostromo" (1904)
Luigi Pirandello (Italy): "The Late Mattia Pascal" (1904)
Edward-Morgan Forster (Britain): "Howards End" (1910)
Boris Bugayev "Andrey Bely" (Russia): "Petersburg" (1912)
Franz Kafka (Austria): "The Trial" (1915)
James Joyce (Ireland): "Ulysses" (1922)
Marcel Proust (France): "In Search of Lost Time" (1922)
Italo Svevo (Italy): "Zeno's Conscience" (1923)
Andre' Gide (France): "The Counterfeiters" (1925)
Francis-Scott Fitzgerald (USA): "The Great Gatsby" (1925)
Arthur Schnitzler: "Traumnovelle/ Dream Story" (1925)
Virginia Woolf (Britain): "To the Lighthouse" (1927)
Julien Green (France): "Adrienne Mesurat" (1927)
Mihail Sadoveanu (Romania): "Ancuta's Inn" (1928)
Stanislaw Witkiewicz (Poland): "Insatiability" (1930)
Vladislav Vancura (Czech): "Marketa Lazarova" (1931)
Louis-Ferdinand Celine (France): "Journey to the End of the Night" (1932)
William Faulkner (USA): "Light in August" (1932)
Miguel de Unamuno y Jugo (Spain): "San Manuel Bueno Martir" (1933)
Robert Musil (Austria): "The Man Without Qualities" (1933)
Karel Capek (Czech): "An Ordinary Life" (1934)
Elias Canetti (Germany): "Auto Da Fe" (1935)
Flann O'Brien (Ireland): "At Swim-two-birds" (1939)
Joseph Roth (Austria): "The Legend of the Holy Drinker" (1939)
Mikhail Bulgakov (Russia): "The Master and Margarita" (1940)
Albert Camus (France): "The Stranger" (1942)
Hermann Broch (Austria): "The Death of Virgil" (1945)
Julien Gracq (France): "A Dark Stranger" (1945)
Malcolm Lowry (Britain): "Under the Volcano" (1947)
Tanizaki Junichiro (Japan): "Makioka Sisters" (1948)
Cesare Pavese (Italy): "The Moon and the Bonfires" (1950)
Alejo Carpentier (Cuba): "The Lost Steps" (1953)
Rafael Sanchez-Ferlosio (Spain): "The River El Jarama" (1955)
William Gaddis (USA): "The Recognitions" (1955)
Elsa Morante (Italy): "Arthur's Island" (1957)
Patrick White (Australia): "Voss" (1957)
Augusto Roa-Bastos (Paraguay): "Son of Man" (1959)
Wilson Harris (Guyana): "Palace of the Peacock" (1960)
Ernesto Sabato (Argentina): "Of Heroes and Tombs" (1961)
Hugo Claus (Belgium): "Amazement" (1962)
Beppe Fenoglio (Italy): "A Private Question" (1963)
CarloEmilio Gadda (Italy): "Acquainted with Grief" (1963)
Ismail Kadare (Albania): "The General of the Dead Army" (1963)
Janet Frame (New Zealand): "Scented Gardens For The Blind" (1963)
Julio Cortazar (Argentina): "Hopscotch" (1963)
Carlos Fuentes (Mexico): "The Death of Artemio Cruz" (1964)
Saul Bellow (USA): "Herzog" (1964)
John Barth (USA): "Giles Goat Boy" (1966)
Jose Lezama-Lima (Cuba): "Paradise" (1966)
Mario Vargas-Llosa (Peru): "The Green House" (1966)
Miguel Delibes (Spain): "Five Hours with Mario" (1966)
Gabriel Garcia-Marquez (Colombia): "One Hundred Years of Solitude" (1967)
Milan Kundera (Czech): "The Joke" (1967)
Thomas Bernhard (Austria): "Gargoyles" (1967)
Vladimir Nabokov (Russia): "Ada" (1969)
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>>9615870
Not all of these are "modernist" but it is a list of the best books from 1900-1970.
I only have my favorite book from each author, so if you like one look further into them.
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>>9615870
>No Surrealists
Disregard the entirety of this list.
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I have a question that i'd like to scout literary individuals for - what is pop music?
i'm asking /lit and not /mu for a few reasons:
1) the politics of the arts can lead to a self-defeating constriction.
1.5) Music is often seen as entertainment, and even more discouraging- it lends itself to clics which can be hiveminded.
2) reading, although very different, seems to be a more finely tuned way of receiving information than listening.
3) I'm not looking for a specific answer, It seems less controlled to ask individuals who might not be directly related to music.
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>>9614680
music that is popular
pop is short for popular
thus, pop music = popular music
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>>9614688
Not that guy but how do you compare the beatles with lady gaga? I'm not saying any is better than the other, I'm saying they are both extremely popular and yet sound too different to be the same genre.
Meanwhile you get metalheads assblasted about the nuances that differenciate grindcore from metalcore
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>>9614705
lady gaga and the Beatles were both pop music at the time they came out
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>TFW so many gaps in my knowledge but don't know what to start or what books to read.
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>>9614604
You came to the wrong place friendo.
This here Tasmanian canoe crafting webzine is for people who know everything about everything and express thier superiority with infinite tate and refinement.
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It's likely too late to fill them. Just give up.
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Reading accessories thread?
What do you use to help you read?
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>>9614508
I use my fucking eyes you dunce
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>>9614533
Oh, so how heavy is your prescription?
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What is the value of "ideological' words?
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Words like
>socialist
>capitalist
>left/right wingers
>libertarian/authoritarian
>feminist
To me this kind of language is useless and non-descriptive. A pianist is someone who plays piano, a botanist is someone who studies plants, but a "socialist" is merely someone who BELIEVES in the ideals of socialism, whatever that means now.
Trying to categorize people simply by what they believe, and not what they do, seems useless at best and damaging at worse. Whenever you see political debates now, most of them are just debating whether something is REALLY libertarian/socialist/left wing or whatever.
I feel like there is just a grave flaw in our language. Our language is so mired in abstraction that any action is stripped away. Most words ending in "ism" are, if we are totally honest, completely worthless and cloud rather than clarify thought.
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>>9614104
>language is abstract
wow, great insights there
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>I'm a socialist but I do capitalism
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>>9614104
>poetry was dead yesterday
>today it's being mourned
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He should have moved to New York not Paris
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Daily reminder he wrote his masterpiece in Trieste, and you don't even know where Trieste is.
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>>9614087
I do its a borderline Slavic shithole.
If he was in America he wouldn't have written the cynical joke that is Finnegan's Wake
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>>9614087
Finnegans Wake wasn't written in Trieste.
ITT: We post music to listen to while reading a specific book
I'll start:
>Nibelungenlied
>Still Crazy After All These Years
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>Samuel Barbar's Adagio for Strings, specifically Agnus Dei
>Writings of Apostolic Fathers, Church Fathers and so forth
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>Brian Eno Music For Airports
>Infinite Jest
>God mode: while ripping a one hitter of high quality type marijuana
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSCidXo36UA
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Hi /lit/.
I was wondering if you could help me with some recommendations for my boyfriend. I've always enjoyed literature myself, and reading has been a big part of my life. However, I enjoy quite heavy literature, and at the moment, I mostly read about the modern breakthrough scandinavian literature and Russian existentialism.
My boyfriend has not once voluntarily read a book in his life. I feel like he's missing out, but I know breaking out Pontoppidan or Chekov won't spark an interest. I'm thinking something simple and easy that a 19 year old would enjoy. He likes quite goofy movies, is interested in politics and I think he'd enjoy something like Harry Potter. While I enjoy Harry Potter, I'd like something that wasn't a children's book - mostly because he's opposed to it. Any recommendations for my manchild pleb boyfriend, guys?
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>>9614025
I meant the modern breakthrough in Scandinavian litterature. Should it seem a bit obscure and pretentious, I'm Scandinavian myself and it's curriculum everywhere.
It's very interesting and I can recommend Herman Bang and Amalie Skram in particular.
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>>9614025
>Russian existentialism.
Dostoevsky is for teenagers, and he writes goofy comedies. Don't be such a pleb faggot, we can't see how cute your ass is in chaps, and Dostoevsky is entry level Russian existentialism.
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>>9614025
Anyone can enjoy Chekhov. Also, find a new boyfriend.
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Is there a place for idealism in this post-post-postmodern tryhard contrarian culture?
Everything needs to have a twist now. Can we have a contemporary genre or literary piece where the ideals of the main character triumph over pessimism without looking "unrealistic"? There's no absolute black and white but some shades of grey are clearly lighter than others.
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>>9613986
We used to have that, it was called the Bible but then God died
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>>9613986
Sanity seems to have had the upper hand over despair in GITS. Cowboy Bebop too to some degree. Intelligence and consciousness, robots learning what it means to be human. I thought that was pretty good.
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>>9613986
People are inspired by the world around them as much as intellectuals/authors can shape a culture the culture and world they live in shapes them - it is as unnatural to a writer today to have an ideal character/black and white as it would be to an ancient writer to have a realistic/ grey one.