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>>9629007
I want to write about poetic/narrative structures and how they can potential serve as 1-d models of 2-d grid structures in video games with an emphasis of chiastic structure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiastic_structure
and the sort of net that would unfold in an interactive form.

>>9629007
I hope to write a treatise on the desensitisation of society titled The Age Of The Gross. Obviously, I am inspired by Agnew's famous speech.

>>9629007
I've always wanted to create a kind of mock journal of 'Time Cube Studies'. Each essay would be written under a different psuednym and character, taking every imaginable position on Time Cube. You'd have some mathematical reductionist, a post-modern take on one-god time as patriarchy, an obnoxious anti-semite piece focusing on the purported 'jewishness' of greenwich mean time. There'd be some kind of attempt at reconciling newtonian physics with time cube as well.

>>9628874
Who is the semen demon?

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/

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>>9628887
But that's science. I need books!

Nietzsche worshipped strong men like a woman.

>>9628627
>Refusing to embody a degenerate disease-ridden drug addict is a spook so do it, and lead everyone else to do it through threatening to call them a spook

>>9628642
Stay pressed babe

Ha I've heard this criticism before of C.S. Lewis, where it spoke about how absurb it is for an upperclass homebody like Lewis to talk about fighting the good fight against Satan's evil.

absolutely.
Hobbits = petit bourgeoisie is gold.
And his beliefs really do permeate the book.
as if the dwarves aren't the jews. please.

CS Lewis' best book is Boxen

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yiff in hell, vermin

also, lady into fox

>>9625970
isn't that an allegory for cuckoldry

The Metamorphoses - Ovid

>>9624496

Time compression is an odd concept - at once you identify it and at the same time, it has to be too late to do anything about it. Are these people simply being too fatalist?

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>>9624545
Speaking for myself I would say that it's a question of not being fatalist enough. Lacking the courage or imagination to go where serious Out There pessimism can go.

Whoever this guy is he's a fucking tremendous writer. Some of the best and most persuasive exegesis of Land's work I've read so far. I've been reading some Deleuze & Guattari too, which also helps to understand Land. He's a serious fucking visionary.

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>Progressive civilization is not progressive at all, rather it seeks to hinder the future from giving birth to this strange new realm of being. Global capitalism is a religion and defense against the future, not its progenitor. The leaders of the world seek to encapsulate us in a time of no time, an absolute zero point of nullity, a presentism in which acceleration can be bound to the wheel of death, rather than the spiral of escape beyond the limits of the known. As Nick Land tells us: “Bataille interprets all natural and cultural development upon the earth to be side-effects of the evolution of death, because it is only in death that life becomes an echo of the sun, realizing its inevitable destiny, which is pure loss.”

>The thin line that separates Kant’s famous distinction between phenomena and the noumenon is an artificial and speculative lie, a fiction that seeks to save the human from the terror of its own demise. Consciousness is this salvatory mythology created by this distinction between subject and object, a distinction that in Bataille and Land becomes a final barrier to communication, to the fusion of materiality intensified by its continuous flow within the impersonal. Kant put a stop to this flow, froze it in the transcendental illusion: sponsoring an immobile time, static and abstract, a realm caught between the limits of a false alliance to consciousness and a distancing from its roots in the energetic unconscious. Imprisoned in a cage of epistemological logicism Kant gave birth to the capitalist regime of pure death: a realm of abstract and transcendental illusions that have bound us to a thanatropic culture for two-hundred years.

And then Nietzsche popped that shit open again. Deleuze and Guattari connected it to Capital. Now Land is following it into outer space.

Continental philosophy. How can anything be this awesome.

>>9624100
I would do away with all books except for Aristotle and Plato. Get Hesiod and the rest of the Greeks from the LOEB library. They do great translations and have the Greek on the other side. Really great. You can read Sophocles and Aristophanes. Aristotle is dry af but Plato is amazing, I would start with him, and consider the audio books of it as it is, after all, a dialogue.

hello, even though it my be a little controversial around here, I would recommend starting with Ovid's Metamorphoses, as it's fairly easy to read and gives you a pretty nice, general oversight of Greco-Roman myths. after that, read the Homeric epics. I would also recommend reading at least a few plays. mainly the ones by Sophocles and Euripides.
this will give you a solid basis for continuing with philosophers like Plato and Aristotles.

>>9624115
>>9624143

and give me some reasons why this is better than the chart?

because of course there are many people on /lit/ with different opinions on this but i almost never see any arguments for their particular strategy

>characters turned black in movies, white people freak out, saying "why not make new black characters?"
>meanwhile, gay people ask, "why aren't there any gay characters?"
>straight people get pissed off and say they shouldn't want it in the first place

Yeah, I guess it does make sense that gay people, women, black people, and so on, would all want to read about nothing but straight white men, right? It's not like you'd be bothered if every single fantasy book on the shelf were about a black lesbian slaying dragons and shit.

Except, oh, wait, there's a whole group of people who get mad if a story that reflects the experiences of women or minorities gets a Hugo.

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Neal pls stop this.

>>9623572
I'm black and read over 800 sff books. Almost all of them are featuring white protagonist. Don't mean shit to me. I read Chinese, indian, women, even gay sff. I look at the story/blurb and read. I don't go looking for black protagonists and books with a bunch of black characters because I don't self insert.

I read a book like I watch a movie, pay attention and when it's over I decide if I was entertained or not. The self insert autists are the spergs that is killing sff. Harry Potter was probably the only book that I self-inserted myself into (and I had no problem imagining that I was being Harry, walking around, fucking Cho, Hermione, Ginny, even those upitty Indian twins/sisters. I knew they wanted Harry's dick because of how they behaved.

These spergs are so autistic that they can't read a book with a black main character, or if the book mentions dark skin they flip out. I can understand when they try to force the gay characters in, or if they go out their way to use pronouns, but black protagonists have been around for decades. I'm sure a lot of you pol types read and enjoyed black protag books and didn't even notice it.

>>9622348
(if you have to list rereads, list them separately)

War and Peace by Tolstoy
Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich
Crime and Punishment by Dostoyevsky
Lolita by Vladimir Nabkkov
The Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien
The Road by Cormac McCarthy
Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell
Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami
Darkness at Noon by Arthur Koestler
9 short stories by J. D. Salinger
Can you tell I'm new design


Also, where should I start with philosophy?

>>9622406
Desu*

>>9612060
cape shit is trash but a lot of manga is better than what passes for literature these days (eggers franzen dfw etc)

>>9612060
>>9612070

I agree with Moore that superhero shit, don't know if it was actually him that said that, has ruined the perception of comics. Comics can still be an enjoyable medium with some high brow stuff but there's nothing on the same levels as classical literature. It's entertainment and nothing more and shouldn't be treated as pop culture worship like it is today due to how poisoning it is.

Watchmen is worth a look. Beyond that there's some quality, but it's sparse.

>>9633046
no

discuss literature not what all you pseud literature readers like to do otherwise or have in common it is pathetic and ruins the purpose of this board

>>9633046
if you want to talk about futurama, please go to /tv/, it has no place here

>>9633078
>>9633078
can you fucking sage when you reply to such a shit post next time?

what do you like? what kind of questions do you ask yourself? what would you like to learn?

>>9633034
ok for starters:
odysee and ilias
platos works
goethes faust (underrated outside of germany)
shakespeare

You might like Dark matter from Blake Crouch

Because no one'd believe in good if they didn't fear hell

>>9632845
It seems someone read Sandman.

>>9632838
So many great authors are Dante shills. Especially the Inferno.

You are not learning new concepts, nothing to sink in.

You'd probably absorb it better if you read one book at a time

>>9632805
Depends on the book and why one is reading. I do both personally.

>>9632578
>POC
kill yourself

Having said so, Woolf and Baldwin

>>9632578
I guess Dumas is okay? He was a mulatto.

There's plenty of women on the western canon already