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Is the telephone-book a good book?
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It's like reading non-fiction
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>>10014145
but it´s way more realisitc than non-fiction
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>>10014128
Come on, the middle part of 2666 is not that bad.

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What jobs can you do with a literature degree?

Or is a meme degree.
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I have a six figure job lined up at the local literature factory when I graduate this year.
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>>10014069

It's a meme degree and you fell for it.

What's even worse?
All those helpful intelligent professors who helped you along the way - they knew it the whole time. They knew they were sending you to failure. And they used you because you were just a statistic they can use to justify funding.
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>>10014084
every professor I had explicitly discouraged me from doing literature because they said it's a waste of my talents/prospects given the shitty career outlook

maybe your teachers just didn't care about you cause you're a pseud

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>>10014054
pathetic self bump
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Wordsworth pretty much lead the field on this one, because their art is done on the cheap. To be fair to them, their latest editions seem to be much better.
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>>10014493
>Wordsworth
they look quite decent i would say

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Philosophically speaking, was he correct?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JmNKGfFj7w&feature=youtu.be
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He's just trying to complete the circle of German idealism.
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>>10014045
Why is he there?
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>>10014045
He doesn't take this thinking to the end. He tries to bestow a divine importance on peace. If the universe is a predestined chamber of energy interacting with itself by a prescribed set of rules then what the fuck does peace even mean?

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Contemporary psychology is a disgrace. Stuck at a developmental stage analogous to that 16th century chemistry it is defined through its usefulness and its aversion to formulating generalised theories. The "neuroscientific revolution" peddled by natural scientists is not the solution to but a symptom of this undesirable state of affairs.

How do we fix it?
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>defined through its usefulness
Is this necessarily bad, especially for schools focused on practical applications?
>its aversion to formulating generalised theories
Why focused on generalized theories once one recognizes neuro-divergence and the importance of individual assessment?

Moreover, could you be more specific? It's hard to understand what you're on about.
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>>10014032
Shutup and read Jung faggit
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A switch to idiographic methods would help, but would require retraining literally millions of retards who think quantifying observed phenomena, reifying their observer-constructed quantification data as a "structural" entity, and assuming that entity exists in itself, is science.

It's just not possible. The whole society has run amok on this materialist thinking, not just psychologists or even scientists. They don't even realise what they're doing. Guenon's The Reign of Quantity and the Sign of the Times spells it out pretty clearly. Also Dialect of Enlightenment.

A massive turn toward phenomenology and Goethe would help, but only insofar as it causes an inward, spiritual change.

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First thread ever.

I have to write a 100 pages essay for the end of June 2018, so far I have chosen the topic below.

I'm a french literature student specialized in comparative literature and basically we have to write critics & theory on a specific subject, which itself could be based on an author, a book or anything that is relevent and lit related.

The chosen topic is not random. it's based on a personal belief that what we call God/gods/evil/Abraxas is chaos and that what the human soul create in our daily life is cosmos (or order). Sure it's bullshit, but I'm a poetic soul, not a philosopher. Anyway, literature gives me what I need and I sure can find some books to feed my delusion.

So, any reading recommendation on the topic ? theory or fiction, poetry, whatever... Advice are welcome. Critics as well. That's my first thread ever (been following /lit/ for three years now).

thanks ! (told you it's my first time ?)
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I'm not sure I understand, OP. So you're interested in writing about Gnosticism it seems, but what specifically is your focus/thesis?
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>>10014040
i'm interested in gnosticism indeed. but that is not my main focus. my focus is to understand, on a poetic view point, how the chaos is felt and expressed. were does the imagination come from and how the soul express itself (eventhoug it doesn't express itsel, but just 'is')

my thesis (which is non-existent, for the moment) could be that chaos is felt and that the answer is the delusion of a cosmical order ?

I'm sorry, it's really vague... but I'm expecting to awake some imagination, related to some books ; the books matter
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why

Demian but you've probably already read that

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Hey anons, red pill me on this Guy.
pic related
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>>10013985
Read some real poetry cuck.
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>red pill
Just read the Poetry Foundation profile, OP. WCW was an Imagist interested in economical phrasing; clear, sharp imagery; and localization of content. Do a cursory Google search, read a couple of poems, and you'll get the idea.
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I lie here thinking of you:—

the stain of love
is upon the world!
Yellow, yellow, yellow
it eats into the leaves,
smears with saffron
the horned branches that lean
heavily
against a smooth purple sky!
There is no light
only a honey-thick stain
that drips from leaf to leaf
and limb to limb
spoiling the colors
of the whole world—

you far off there under
the wine-red selvage of the west!

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I had to read this because of my english class.

Most people say it is really funny (in my opinion its not funny at all) and from the viewpoint of a 6 year old + . Despite the main character being around 6-7 year old the writing is totally not how a 6 year old or even a 10 year old would talk or think like.

Also why the hell should i care about some black dude getting killed at the end or not. He is barely mentioned and i cant build any empathy or simpathy for this guy. Seriously who thinks this is a good book.

The topic at hand is rather mature, but the context and especially the first around 150 pages(?) is about exposing characters (in the most boring way : just tell the audience all of the information) and just everyday life of children with their "horror" stories. Which audience is it aimed towards? Children cant relate or shouldnt read about murder and black people getting hanged, matures/teens are expecting a good mature story.

Why is this so popular to begin with. Im not a literature expert so i hope someone can explain me this.
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>>10013974
The writing is from the viewpoint of the grown up main character looking back to when she was growing up (6+).
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OP, it's a snapshot into and platform for discussing American race relations in the 20th century, which is an important part of social and political curricula in American high schools. Combined with fortunate reception, good marketing, and mandatory classes/books in schools, it's success was inevitable. Moreover, it's become something of a legacy book, read because it has been read so much and is part of America's collective consciousness. Its literary values aren't as important as its now iconic status.
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It's not good. It's just easy to read and simple to teach.

Making people read actual good literature in high school is a bad idea.

You know it's true.
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>>10013962
provide me with a swift rundown
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>>10013967

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gppaJq2ibyI

Excellent reading of it, you'll get the idea a couple minutes in. Redbeard criticizes Christianity, the state, morality, etc.
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>>10013962
Though might IS NOT right, it must be answered with might because it doesn't listen.

>read one of the books off the "New Bestseller's" shelf at the bookstore
>"Man, this shit is considered a best seller? I can do way better that this!"

>Spend some time writing out the first part of a novel
>read it over
>it's even worse shit
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Yeah, writing is difficult, not particularly enjoyable, and surely not as rewarding (in all senses), but halting your own efforts after comparing your work to focus-group-tested prose is the worse thing you can do.

Write your shit, self-publish your shit, and don't check if others think it's shit. Good luck, OP.
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>>10013955
this is good advice that turned into bad advice really fast
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>>10013995
Is self-publishing really that much of a meme?

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Hi,

I'm a female and this is my first time here.
Are you misogynists when it comes to reading?
For example do you read female-centric books like Jane Eyre?
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Not at all. Lolita is a favorite of mine.
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Ehh, I'll bite. Your bait at least looks interesting.

Could you explain further what you mean by "misogynists when it comes to reading"? Your following question suggests that you conceptualize literary misogyny only as not reading "female-centric books," but I find even that phrase vague and unwieldy.
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>>10013943
For example my last boyfriend refused to read anything written by a women for women( such as Jojo Moyes or bronte sisters. He most stuck to classical stuff and some sci-fi which I at least try to read on occasion

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William Burroughs was fucking hot!
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No... I have had many boyfriends who look twice as good as that. He is completely repulsive
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>>10013919
Mom?
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But damn if there isn’t anything sexier /
than a slender boy with a handgun, /
a fast car, a bottle of pills.

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Poetic plagiarists beware!

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/sep/09/poetry-plagiarism-copying-maya-angelou-ira-lightman-will-storr

The shit is hitting the fan:

http://thegrapevine.theroot.com/poet-laureate-steals-from-tupac-and-maya-angelou-in-the-1803754763
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>>10013879
>Black people in order to "steal" other people's work
they call it sample on music, i guess it gonna be normal in a few years in literature
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>>10013889
What did he mean by this? Seriously.
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>what is inspiration
>what is transtextuality
>what is poetry

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RECOMMEND ME A GREAT HORROR NOVEL OR THE PUPPER GETS IT
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>>10013848
Fresh meat for dinner then. Excellent.
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>>10013848
This thread is pretty spooky.
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>>10013848
Dogs will eat shit and fuck their own mothers if you let them.
RIP in peace, you filthy degenerate fleabag

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I finished The Double by Dostoevsky (Hugh Alpin trans) and I'd like to talk about it. This short novel, following the ostracism and breakdown of a St. Petersburg civil servant after the appearance of a lookalike in his office, was written before his exile to Siberia (1846), and slightly revised after his return.

The voice of the narrator mimics the (Underground Man-like) protagonist and uses a lot of repetitive phrases and verbal tics, as well as being anxious and feverish, but the amount of slapstick humor and farce humor (Dostoevsky is surprisingly funny), psychological depth, and ambiguity made me keep reading - the way we appreciate the gap between the protag's perception of himself and how he is perceived by others, and the blurring of realities where motivations, as well as the shape of past and current events gradually become clearer.

I enjoyed this a lot more than The Gambler, and Notes From The Underground, and this make me want to read other pre-exile Dostoevsky because it was surprisingly good, and more of an approachable read than his longer novels. Maybe I will read the Landlady, Poor Folk or The Village Of Stepanchikovo next? Any recommendations of these would be welcome.

What did everybody else think The Double?
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This joke is bad and you should feel bad.
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>>10013809
>writing this much drivel just for the sake of a reddit-tier joke

kys op
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Lol you accidentally made the same thread twice!!!

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