and why were so many European intellectuals at this time racist?
>>9708685
here we go
>>9708676
Go away sargon of akkad.
>age
>5 favorite writers
>other anons r8
>>9708656
>being 5 years old
MODS
> 24
> Nietzsche, Borges, Whitman, Huxley and Cervantes
> what?
>20
>Homer, Coetzee, Fitzgerald, Brecht, Kafka
>>9708694
3/5
www.theguardian.com/stage/2012/apr/25/why-shakespeare-is-italian
www.shakespeare-online.com/biography/shakespeareitalian.html
etinkerbell.wordpress.com/2014/05/03/was-shakespeare-italian-and-born-in-italy/
GG britbongs, your main author is actually a spaghetti
>main composer is kraut
>main author is spaghetti
How will bongs ever recover
Mama mia i'm shakespearino
Life is but a dreamerino
Within another dreamerito
Love ends very badlerito
>>9709043
I fucking hate this place
Turn your depression into art and poetry.
Ok, I'll give it a shot. Now that we got that covered what do I turn my mania in?
what about the rage
But why
If I want to read but I don't know what to read, what should I read?
The Greeks
>>9708463
follow the chart or just read homer to start?
>>9708452
Whatever the fuck you want to read
>start reading pic related
>expect a story about immigration or a clash of cultures or period politics, with a surreal twist
>get story about a downtrodden stoker, a dark maze, a femdom scene, and autism
What the fuck am I reading?
>>9708400
amerika by franz kafka
>>9708407
>le answer literally meme XD
ebin. simply, unequivocally ebin.
>>9708450
Well what fuck kind of response do you expect with a thread like this
>isn't this book kurrrrrazzzzzyyyy
Fuck you cunt
Heyyy, this book's pretty good. Just finished book four, looking forward to Diomedes being dope af.
Cool, cool. You read the intro by Bernard Knox? It's good
>>9708919
Don't read it until you've finished it
>>9708971
Yes. I'm starting reading the Iliad in portuguese and I've just read the introduction (I assume they have the same content), there are cool information but it is full of spoilers.
Better reading after, indeed.
I've been working my way through Plato's dialogues and have been thoroughly enjoying them, despite some weak arguments, and logical flaws. But this book is on a whole new level of stupidity. How much of this was intended to be taken seriously? Was it an exercise for students to pick apart? I can't imagine someone being stupid enough to support the ideas conveyed here.
>>9708377
lmao was reddit always this stupid?
>>9708564
>wisdom and truth are some of the highest virtues
>everyone should be taught they were born like the Orcs in the Lord of the Rings
Republic was NOT supposed to be an instruction manual!!!
Thoughts?
For something that I saw loads of film versions of as a kid, it was extremely sexy,
>>9708308
I read a kid's version in my childhood. It was fun.
>>9708317
Yipes.
I liked Orwell's analysis
Acclaimed writer Zadie Smith writer:
Personally, I have no objection to books that entertain and please, that are clear and interesting and intelligent, that are in good taste and are not willfully obscure - but neither do these qualities seem to me in any way essential to the central experience of fiction, and if they should be missing, this in no way rules out the possibility that the novel I am reading will yet fulfil the only literary duty I care about. For writers have only one duty, as I see it: the duty to express accurately their way of being in the world. If that sounds woolly and imprecise, I apologise. Writing is not a science, and I am speaking to you in the only terms I have to describe what it is I persistently aim for (yet fail to achieve) when I sit in front of my computer.
When I write I am trying to express my way of being in the world. This is primarily a process of elimination: once you have removed all the dead language, the second-hand dogma, the truths that are not your own but other people's, the mottos, the slogans, the out-and-out lies of your nation, the myths of your historical moment - once you have removed all that warps experience into a shape you do not recognise and do not believe in - what you are left with is something approximating the truth of your own conception. That is what I am looking for when I read a novel; one person's truth as far as it can be rendered through language. This single duty, properly pursued, produces complicated, various results. It's certainly not a call to arms for the autobiographer, although some writers will always mistake the readerly desire for personal truth as their cue to write a treatise or a speech or a thinly disguised memoir in which they themselves are the hero. Fictional truth is a question of perspective, not autobiography. It is what you can't help tell if you write well; it is the watermark of self that runs through everything you do. It is language as the revelation of a consciousness.
..
Why does /lit/, through preferences, critiques, and samples of writing, contradict this?
And, thoughts on her opinion?
>>9708298
*Zadie Smith writes
>Why does /lit/, through preferences, critiques, and samples of writing, contradict this?
Could you explain why you believe this in the first place?
I totally agree with her, I don't know what you mean.
>I'm dead.
>You're remarkably animated for a corpse
>No, inside.
>And why is that? Has a woman taken your spirit?
>Ha, not a chance!
>Why, are you a virgin? Perhaps the comma wasn't necessary, and even then the question isn't exactly a riddle.
>I'm no virgin, but I have only slept with one woman legally.
>What were the rest, prostitutes?
>No, I raped them.
>A fine wit you have.
>And they say wit is a sign of intelligence.
>Well, you've proved them wrong.
>I'll have you eat your words.
>I could only eat them if they were minced, and I'm no butcher.
>Continue like this and you'll make a butcher of me.
That's it so far.
No, you have the 'wit' of a thirteen year old shitposter.
This reads like jokes Frasier (from the acclaimed tv show Frasier) would have made as a child. I would genuinely advise you to study Frasier for Shakespearean wit by a contemporary.
>>9708202
holy shit
Pic related is philosophy's first boss, end boss, and secret hidden boss. Start here. If you get bored, you can supplement with Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil, or step sideways into the political fights of the Enlightenment (the Hobbes, Locke, Rousseau sequence).
>>9708182
While I believe the philosophical corpus should be accessible to all, and that you can teach anything to anyone if you break it down enough, it may not be the best idea to seek a quick fix "easy" path through thousands of years western thought.
You may find this site some use
http://sqapo.com/
>>9708182
>easy to read
Should we tell him?
Is there a word for the literary device of stating something directly in very plain terms that yet the words carry an immense weight. It's a quality I notice in Biblical language and I think Neil Young lyrics but somehow not that common.
biblical allegory
>>9708070
BROTHER
i wonder if piggo will go home, rapt on high, full of divine inspiration, and lay down some stanzas
Can we all finally just admit that prose is just poetry for brainlets? Do you not find it strange how the greatest works in literature are poems?
>>9708035
>Do you not find it strange how the greatest works in literature are poems?
So are the worst works in literature, daddio.
>>9708069
>Men have a greater number of high IQ geniuses but also a greater number of dumbasses than women, therefore men are superior - /lit/
>Poetry has a greater number of masterpieces than literature, but also a greater number of failures, therefore literature is superior - /lit/
what did he mean by this?
>poetry isn't literature
what did he mean by this?
Is it best to read older literary works (Paradise Lost, Dubliners, Moby Dick) with or without footnotes?
>>9707920
Doesn't matter because you will reread them many times.
>>9707920
Moby Dick = not necessary
Paradise Lost = def. get footnotes
Dubliners = As a non-english native speaker I appreciated the footnotes (espacially all the irish stuff), if you are from the UK/Ireland you prolly wont need them(?)
>>9707920
Without. If you didn't live at the time when they were first published you'll only get a fraction of its impact anyway. Footnotes don't help because they're too dry to immerse the reader in the time. Like someone explaining a joke to you in a robotic voice.