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No Shitposting Edition

What did you last read? What did you think about it?

Fantasy
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Science Fiction
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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about half-way through this, seems to cover the same themes as the last PKD I read (Eye in the Sky)
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>>9706008
>last read

Some erotic fiction from /d/, unfortunately the threads have been purged from the board so I'll never find out how it ends.

It wasn't bad.

Started reading the sword of truth series, it's shit from book one page one but I feel like I need to know what's up.
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Read pic related -- "Triplanetary" by E.E. Smith -- as part of a batch of old paperbacks I picked up at a used bookstore.

I knew it was the "first" book in the Lensman series, but I didn't realize it was a prequel to the earlier-written "Galactic Patrol". Triplanetary is full of allusions and references to Galactic Patrol, as expected. Anyone interested in the Lensman books should read Galactic Patrol first.

Triplanetary gives a rundown of the origins and history of the conflict between the evil Eddorians and the good Arisians that serves as the background for the Lensman. Once the infodump is over, Triplanetary turns into a first-contact story between humans and the alien Nevians, while the evil Eddorian Gray Man attempts to bring the human race into subservience by any means necessary.

The Lensman setting is not subtle, and Smith personifies common criticisms of the genre. The Eddorians and Arisians are respectively so evil and so good as to be metaphysical forces rather than characters or species in any real sense of the words. Anything the Arisians and their allies do is good, and anything the Eddorians and their allies do is bad, and little detailed examination is made otherwise.

Smith's worship of technocratic competence makes Robert Heinlein look like Ursula Le Guin; the main characters are all hypercompetent (the protagonist, held prisoner on an alien starship, literally memorizes everything he sees so exactly he's able to have a superior human starship built based on his descriptions). The nameless mass are worthless; several cities are casually destroyed by weapons of mass destruction, with no apparent hard feelings by either side. Shit happens; it's not like a plot-relevant character died.

The Triplanetary intelligence service, under the command of the Best Dude Ever, secretly controls everything from behind the scenes. They explicitly maintain extensive dossiers on the pathetic elected leaders of obsolete national governments, which they use to control opposition and prevent the public from questioning their policies. This is portrayed not merely as normal but desirable.

Anyway, it's pretty hard to recommend except for someone interested in the history of the genre. 2/5.

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Why were all the popular authors of the 20th century either a veteran or mentally ill?

pic not related
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>>9705689
omg that's so wrong you fucking misogynist
go back to /pol/
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>>9705689
Hemmingway reaaaaaally overblew all his war experience. Google up some articles on it. He was practically a very secure pussy who never fought in the front lines but wrote like he was a fucking war hero.
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>>9705689
Two World Wars back to back destroyed a lot of people's spirits, boyo.

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I'm a chapter into this and I don't feel any less autistic yet. At what point does this book start helping?
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>>9705668
who ever said it did

that title is the most offensive thing I can think of
robs life of all its magical, poetic elements, reduces human relating to some kind of scientific data which you can utilize to attain your poor egotistical goals which undermine vast aspects of life and its beauty
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One day you will see the fundamental contradiction in the expression "self-help book", and then the economic exploitation of the poor souls that would fail to see it and can make it a best-seller. But this is not that day.
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Part one is basic human psychology, and the rest is all common sense. There is no cure for autism.

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Hello /lit/,

I'd like to present my interpretation of Atlantis as described in Plato's Timaeus/Critias. According to Plato, Atlantis was a city that "fell out of favor with the gods and sank into the sea". The island became an impassable barrier of mud that blocked anyone trying to go there.

My interpretation of this is that the "island becoming an impassable shoal of mud" refers to the fact that once some idea is proven to be a lie, no one will ever believe it again, so it is impossible to repeat the same lie again and expect people to believe it. Thus no one can go there again - in this way Atlantis as Plato describes it seems to be more a figurative place, although it could quite possibly have been a real place as well.

So, Atlantis, whatever it was "fell out of favor with the gods", meaning that people became cognizant that it was all a lie, "sank into the sea", meaning that it collapsed as an empire, civilization and nation, and "became an impassable shoal of mud", that it leaves it's mark on people's consciousness as a lie never again to be believed.

A modern example of an empire, civilization, and nation that similarly "fell out of favor with the gods, sank into the sea and became an impassible shoal of mud" would be the Communist bloc - once people began realizing what a corrupt regime it was, the empire collapsed, and now when we think of communism we are reminded of all the atrocities Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and like committed. There are plenty of other examples of this sort of pattern being repeated throughout history.

As for what the original Atlantis may have been, I would guess that it has something to do with cannibalism - people treating other humans as livestock for their consumption. It did take place 10000 years ago and if we were to think of what the most primitive vice is that is associated with the caveman era cannibalism seems the most likely.

Also, pic unrelated. That show is a bunch of BS but it did lead me to realize what the truth might have been.
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didn't read
your gay
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>>9705186
you should listen to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmLhqHaMB5E&list=PLACixZkUG8spYB0YI-VlZG94nuH36k8bo
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>>9705186
Now the question is what is the modern incarnation of Atlantis?

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>“Now these [battles] too are over, and already we see once more in the dim light of the future the tumult of the fresh ones. We--by this I mean those youth of this land who are capable of enthusiasm for an ideal--will not shrink from them. We stand in the memory of the dead who are holy to us, and we believe ourselves entrusted with the true and spiritual welfare of our people. We stand for what will be and for what has been. Though force without and barbarity within conglomerate in sombre clouds, yet so long as the blade of a sword will strike a spark in the night may it be said: Germany lives and Germany shall never go under!”

Why was this book so great and why did Jünger decide to neuter it?
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>>9704818
This is so fucking gay
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>>9704818
it's shit
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>>9704829
samefag

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Hi /lit/,

I figured some of you might be wordsmiths. What is a concept or word that comfortably refers to both managing finances and working a job? Livelihood, support, and provisioning are the only words I have, and while livelihood gets close to fulfilling my requirements, none of these words feel quite right. I don't care if it's archaic or foreign, as long as it's not super long, unaesthetic, or consisting of multiple words that can't be comfortably connected by hyphens. I even used a Heideggerian term because it felt so right and it made a lot of sense to me, so feel free to suggest anything.

I had made a little chart to sort out my daily activities, and I wanted to group everything related to money together for practical purposes. "Bringing in and managing the dough", unfortunately, is way too wordy to not be ugly. It's not my most important priority, but it's bugging me that I have such a great chart only to have one striking blemish. I'd really appreciate any help here.
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Why did you post that picture?
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>>9704704
To attract attention and alert /lit/ to the danger of the eternal Kraut.
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>>9704715
Please watch this YouTube clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY

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>ywn join Celine and his cat in a series of comedic misadventures across Nazi-occupied Europe
why live?
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You know his wife is still alive and prohibits the republishing of his antisemitic pamphlets.
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>>9704188
>You know his wife is still alive
jebus it's true, she's 104
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>Our French Republic is no more than a great gullet swallowing the negroizing of the French at the command of the Jews. Our governors are a clique of sadistic yids and yellow-bellied masons sworn to swallow us up, to bastardize us further, to boil us down by all the grotesque, primitive means of inter-mixture, part negro, part yellow, part white, part red, part monkey, part Jewish, part everything. [219]

jesus christ this guy was woke

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'The Classical Inheritance' is part of my pre-reading list for English at Cambridge so, having already read Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, I elected to read Ovid's Metamorphoses. Tantalised by the introduction, that lauded its wit and fast pace and much else, I was keen to start. However, much like Homer's works, it is repetitive and as dry as old dog shit.
I realise it's a terribly plebeian thing to say but I just dont get it - things happen, often for no reason, then someone is turned into a tree. Its very boring. What am I missing? How can I enjoy the Classics? I am inevitably going to have to study them, at least casually, so that I can recognise reference when and wherr it crops up. So what is that I should be looking for when I read this sort of stuff, what is there to appreciate?

(If you're an avid fan of the Classics please don't be offended by my rank philistinism, just tell me what it is you like about them/ what you look for)
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I read The Iliad and The Odyssey and mainly just enjoyed both as engaging narratives tbph. Although they have appeal in other ways too- the historical sense, that these are ancient stories which have been told and retold and had enormous influence, and what I could call the anthropological sense- the feeling of contacting and trying to understand what is in many ways a very alien culture.
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>>9703037
The Classics are a backbone in Western society. These stories are referenced and retold even today, these works have endured so long that they're a part of the Culture without ever having to be specifically named by anyone. I'm surprised you find the Metamorphoses dry though, it's really lively--especially compared with other Classics. There's a lot of subtle details in it's episodic format as well that make it fun to read through over and over again.

When the Muses sing against the Pleiades notice how their audience is a bunch of nymphs. The Muses story (which is better on it's own) also features a rape which the nymphs would be sure to sympathize more with considering how often that befalls them (OP's pic related).

The Perseus Story is a complete farce of the Iliad. It's a story about violence, bloodshed, but it begins with an accident and ends with a an overpowered instrument that should have been used at the beginning.

As for the 'people turning into trees', The Metamorphoses was written with that in mind, it is "The Book of Changes" it chronicles myths and legends which all seem to have something or other to do with a change (physical, mental, symbolic). It's not a coincidence that all the famous myths are included here, Ovid is making a statement that nothing is static, and seeks to aestheticize these changes.
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best translation? w/ commentary

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Easy mode: If Orwell was writing today - what would he focus on?

Hard mode: If Nietzsche was writing today - what would he focus on?
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Guys like Orwell and Nietzsche can't be produced in today's society.
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>>9700248
Sure they can, especially guys like Orwell
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gay sex

Post the opening line of your short story or novel and other anons will tell you if they would continue reading or not.

>The moment my ass hit that chair, I questioned whether the moment I was living in was real or not
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Holy shit that's awful. Please don't post again.
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>Sophie winced as the porcelins cold bite assaulted the soft white flesh of her derriere, that small contradiction of flesh puckering despite her need for imminent colon relief.
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>>9699567
Not bad

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Write what's on your mind


I miss you
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I like the posters here but think they're too vitriolic. It hurts my heart.
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You keep doing what you're doing and you're going to end up as senile as your grandmother, calling out people for collaborating with the Germans in the 1990's and all other manner of nonsense. I guess you'll be happier when you fully abscond from reality.
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My feet hurt.

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Are there any good Youtube channels about books?
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Marcus Aramini.
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>>9690391
there are only good books about books. why watch something? go back to reading.
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>>9690401
>manlet that /lit/ idolizes for sucking genre wolfe's cock all day
cmon guy, shoot higher, please.

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Where can I download ebooks ilegally, which are still not free for the public?
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in the UNDERGROUND
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>>9712058

nsa.gov
they have a good search engine that can take author, title, and preferred format
then they email you a download link
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There is a super secret hidden thread on /lit/ where you can get all the books you want.

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Don't share or mention it again plz. I can get in a lot of trouble and loose my janotorial status.

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What's /lit/'s opinion on Toni Morrison? Particulary The Song of Solomon. It's on my college reading list, but I'm not sure whether I'll read it, because I've been already recommended by college some autistic books in the previous years for some reason. The writer looks pretty hedonistically obese.
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>>9712003
Also, she would be the first black author I've read
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>>9712003
I read it in high school and was unimpressed. It's typical brown resentment lit and follows all the cliches of writing done by the grievance class. The magical realism is obviously a crutch and becomes incredibly irritating by the story's conclusion. The thought motivating the nonsensical narrative is very shallow and sophomoric and the characters are uninteresting. I advise everyone to avoid this book as it is a waste of time
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>>9712009
would you like an award?

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this book is so fucking LONG
I just spent 3 hours reading 47 PAGES

it's fucking amazing though, you should all be excited for the reprint
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why would you capitalize 'pages', yeah?
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>>9711982
to emphasise what a small page count that seems for a 3 hour reading session
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>>9711982
are you bri'ish, yeah?

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