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>>9733202

>am i too autistic for the emotional/intuitive experience of poetry?

Maybe?
>at best i get the feeling of solving a math equation
Lines like this certainly suggest it.

If it's not your thing don't force it.

>>9733202

Hi,

Actual autistic person here. One day I realized that you're supposed to read poetry aloud. It was a revelation.

I had little interest in poetry until I forced myself to memorise and recite it

>>9733237
This guy knows

>>9733168
I hope he responds and the video makes more of an honest man out of him.

What's with the photos of him attempting that wise-sage-looking-into-distance look when it just makes him look like an Oblivion NPC.

>>9733188
He has over 6 million citations, you can't say that about him.

>>9733155
The visuals really do come alive in M though in very different ways novel to novel. Best for me was old Knoxville and life along the Tennessee river in Suttree. Blood Meridian is like a Bosch, the imagery in Pretty Horses and Cities bright as candy. Weirdly one of his least vivid is for me his second best all-'round, The Crossing. The earlier stuff's more dark, the later more stripped.

>>9734005
Pretty Horses was my first Mccarthy, and I was super impressed. The guy is an excellent writer. I was expecting some hard-ass western writer, but the guy can be very delicate. Looking forward to more

>>9733155
Woolf

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> If you say it's boring, they say every sentence is a profound work of philosophical and psychological insight. If you point out that it isn't "insightful" and use logic, they say it's a bawdy and fun read.
this meme has to go

sage goes in all fields

anyone know if it's just the p&v translation that makes it so melodramatic?

>>9733128
jesus christ, six months? i read it in a week, man!
i think perhaps you just didn't like the work and others simply do, it's no skin off anyone's back if you just didn't like something.

let's talk of more constructive things, like what type of literature or what book specifically do you enjoy? such conversations deliver far more use than endless quibbling sessions.

>>9733022
>Franzen doesn’t spend anything. The fleece he is wearing is 10 years old. He doesn’t like shopping and hates waste. Upstairs in the fridge in his hotel room are the leftovers from meals, all of which he will eat in due course. His only luxury is expensive kit for birdwatching.

i havent read any of his stuff, but this guy is my nigga

I actually can't stand people like him. Like he really gets what being poor is like but has never wanted for anything in his entire life and in fact, lives far better than most. His being "ironically" poor is pretty insulting tbqh.

>>9733234
DFW was exactly the same:

>wears shitty clothing
>complains of living in an apartment the size of a closet while writing IJ

Even though both his parents were academics and he never had to work a single full-time job in his entire life.

>>9732929
>empirical
>research
Science is not empirical, it's rationalist hokum.
Arguments are the same trash. Self-indulgent masturbatory garbage.
Eat shit, your research amounts to a circlejerk in an empty room. The stink is getting to me just thinking about it...

Doing bad things feels bad. You don't need a philosophy to have a sense of guilt or shame, unless you're insane.

>>9732929

>does this make me sound intelligent enough to make pseud fags want to suck me off?
>I really really love cock

woah.

but its white noise's theme of death and its relation to all the trivialities of our life that precisely makes it so potently good - It's about, in a sense, living life to the fullest while taking the mundane in stride.

its important too for predicting the progression of where studies in university were going. Hitler studies and American pop culture studies courses seemed comical at the time, but at the uni I go to, there are classes exactly like that. There's a senior comm seminar dedicated to harry potter studies for fuck's sake

Prose-wise, I've always seen him as the opposite of thomas pynchon - tighter sentences with more punch and concision. not very long-winded, influenced by dashiell hammett's stenographer style, etc.

Check out Libra senpai

>>9732941
Maybe I'd get more out of it on a reread, with actual literature that always seems to be the case. And I did like it, I guess I just expected to feel something from it, and it was more interesting than emotional for me. The characters all felt similarly disconnected to me, like they often became just mouthpieces for his comedic dialogue. Which I did like, I just didn't actually care about any of them cause they didn't feel very real. Except for some of the kids maybe.

For me the prose was fine, it just didn't often seem very musical to me, which I guess is what I tend to like. Sometimes it really hit the spot too, but it mostly felt very dry.

I do plan on reading more of his stuff, thanks for the rec!

>>9732955
libra, ironically, to tie it to my pynchon comparison, is a kind of historical fiction - it pretty accurately follows the arc of lee harvey oswald's life - but adds a fictional layer of conspiracy and other stuff on top of it and its pretty gripping imo. raced through it across a 3 day work weekend because I just couldn't put it down

>>9732840
It's not a dystopia if you enjoy it.

>>9732840
Zombies

>>9733050
At least schoolchildren aren't assigned books about zombies and told to take them seriously.

That is some fucked up Latin, probably written by a Gaul.

>yo sabía
What's the point of having a language with so much conjugating if you're just going to throw the subject in when you don't need to
>>9734016
It's Spanish, my dude.

>>9734160
>tu eres
>tu me amarás
What a waste

>>9732683
>Is it because LoF is readable for middle schoolers and no other reason?

Pretty much. It's easier to "get," and by "get" I mean write a simple essay on the book's themes or whatever.

Pincher Martin is also underrated and better than Lord of the Flies.

>>9732687
I'll have to grab that too, sounds like quite a premise. Any other Golding recs? Spire sounds like it might be good as well.

The Spire is fucking amazing

that women have literally never been better than men at anything, not one single activity or skill, in all of human history, unless it involves their sexuality or biology

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You know this is a huge question right?

Might want to read something like Roberts' "history of the world" and then follow up with a few books narrower in time period/region. Would also be worth reading some history that isn't purely political, so maybe something like Barzun's "dawn to decadence" (a cultural history of the modern West).

There's no way you can study everything so you need to narrow down your eras/regions of preference pretty quickly, at least for your intensive studies; you can touch base with tons of other histories, but simply won't have time to read everything in depth.

>greatest writer of all time
r-r-ree-ree-ruh-ruh-reddit

>>9732392
He would be the greatest writer if he actually wrote them.

>>9732399
kys contrarian, bet you're american as well

>>9732351
Listen to the fifth set of mike Duncan's revolutions podcast

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>>9732364
Thanks for the recommendation, how detailed is the podcast? Do you have any book recommendations?

Read Bolivar by Marie Arana. pretty good biography of the man.

>>9731977
Maybe they have a different literary sensibility than you

>>9731977
>O brilliant kids, frisk with your dog,
>Fondle your shells and sticks, bleached
>By time and the elements; but there is a line
>You must not cross nor ever trust beyond it
>Spry cordage of your bodies to caresses
>Too lichen-faithful from too wide a breast.
>The bottom of the sea is cruel.

I will admit he can be overblown but "You must not cross nor ever trust beyond it" is a very good line. "Too lichen-faithful from too wide a breast" sounds wonderful and means a lot to all even though we don't actually know what that means. Very powerful for a poet to make you feel as if you know the underlying meaning without really being able to put a finger on it.

>>9731977
if they don't make sense it means you are not intelligent enough

you can either take that info and become more intelligent or you can defend your petty ego and say he is bad

I dunno lol but bump for interest

Classical rhetoric for the modern student.

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>>9731968
bamp