Stirner is the very involuntary egoist he derides. Why do leftists still shill for this fraud?
If you think anyone takes Spookman seriously, you might actually have autism.
1. Max Stirner recognizes feelings of benevolence, selflessness, as, actually, self-interested, which is broadly the truth - people act good to feel good about themselves.
2. Capitalism works by deceiving people, at least in Stirner's opinion, away from their self-interest, and if everyone acted in a self-interested manner, the machine and workhouse capitalism of his era, different from ours, would've stopped working, and it wouldn't created a new basis for work, a Union of Egoists. As a self-interested person, it is, in fact, in your self-interest to promote such a state, such pretty much every suffers the shitty consequences of runaway capitalism.
3. You're a retard.
4. Read the book, you retard.
>>9741583
Wrong. As a self interested person, it is in your best interest to exploit the proletariat. It sounds to me like YOU haven't read the book, imbecile.
Nonduality/Enlightenment. I'm hearing more and more about it these days. About how it is central to each major religion. Zen, Advaita Vedanta, sects of Christianity, Sects of Islam.
Is this some key, some principal of the universe? Is this the ultimate truth? Or is it a mental quagmire and delusion that some people enter into? Is it a cult?
Should I pursue enlightenment? Should I pursue nonduality? Are they the ultimate Truth?
Quoted:
"What Enlightenment Is:
A sudden massive shift in awareness where one becomes directly conscious of one's ABSOLUTE nature.
"You" and "the world" merge, erasing the physical distinction between self, other, and world.
The realization that you are reality itself, and not merely a "self" inside of reality.
The realization that "you" do not exist, and never have existed.
An experience beyond all experience.
TRUTH!"
----
Quote from a Nonduality guy:
"
"Just one question here.
If "I" am not the body why do I follow it everywhere its ever been?"
Think about this now... It's very simple:
Maybe you are the body, but if you are not the body, then you are mistaken about what you're taking the word "you" to refer to. See?
So when you say, "Why do I follow it (the body) everywhere its ever been" what are you actually saying? What is following the body? If you're the body, as you insist, then there's nothing to follow the body. There's just the body being you.
Nonduality doesn't say you follow the body. Nonduality says, You do not exist! The body just walks around like a zombie on its own. The problem is, it thinks there's someone inside it. You are like a robot who's been programmed to believe it's a human. When you think, "But I'm a real human." << that's just a program running. That program has no one behind it. In the same way that when you look at your computer, you don't think of it as having a "soul" in there somewhere. It's just a bunch of mechanics.
What you REALLY are is the empty field of Nothingness within which the body walks around."
lmao keep tokin that reefer bucko
*hits bong*
*turns on Om's Conference of Birds*
DUDE
Enlightenment is ritual. Ritual is discipline. Discipline is training. Training is play. Play is nature. Nature is a spiral.
d-did you all forget about me?
No, amazing meme and even more amazing=translation.
Zettels Traum thread
>>9741373
my copy came the other day
what ive read of it has actually been pretty funny, its pretty much what i was expecting (german sex jokes and weird poe/joyce references) but im enjoying it so far
also no way is it as dense as finnegans wake
Dead language thread.
Which one is better to learn for classics?
Should I also include Hebrew for the bible?
How far back in English or your native language can you understand?
To those who have learned these, what pronunciation do you use? Do you recommend further pursuits?
I'll start with the how far back, personally(burger) just before chaucers time is when I get lost.
I'll be starting to learn latin as soon as my books arrive so can read Descartes, Spinoza, Leibniz. Can't really comment on anything else in the OP.
>>9740594
You need koine Greek for the New Testament, not Hebrew.
Native Spanish speakers can kind of understand the Cantar del Mio Cid, which was written about 1207.
Post who you think is the greatest living philosopher and I'll tell you why it's actually pic related.
It's obviously Kripke. Discovery of aposteriori necessity actually gives me an excuse to continue being a useless waste of space and puts all self-help individualist betterment ventures to shame. Also his takedown of type identity theory is interesting
>>9740329
Discovery that Bitcoin revives Kant's philosophy is more relevant.
> thinks he's a patrician
> can't speak french
why do people do this?
>thinks he's a patrician
why do people do this?
>thinks he can think
>can't speak latin
>>9739456
Because I don't know how to learn it
>stature
>originality of ideas
>influence
>colleague respect
inb4 the meme trilogy of Peterson, zizek and land
It takes some time for greatness to be recognized for what it is
>>9739446
PETERSON FOR HIS VIEWS ON TRANNIES
NICK LAND FOR WANTING TO ERADICATE ALL NONWHITES
SPENCER FOR REDPILL
The main thing that appeals to me about communism is their conception of totality and the idea of the classless, universal man in their utopia. What are some commie books that focus on these areas?
Read Hegel
>>9738719
Already have. Where do the communists expand on his ideas explicitly?
>>9738712
Why are you interested in a jewish ideology that was used to murder countless millions? Are you jewish yourself?
Read a book for once in your lives. Stop posting /pol/ threads.
Here I even made a convenient download for you so you have no excuse not to.
https://mega.nz/#F!KgcnTALC!9QmFF05ekmd5b7KoI-uopg
>>9738635
What other sci fi should I read if I liked Three Body? Is there anything that's somewhat literary?
>unironically read this entire list
>read half of them at least twice
why am I still here
>>9738659
The undemocratic process of the making of the 2017 list is what makes it a great list.
ITT: Your edgiest, most contrarian views on literature. Share the disdain.
literature is nice
Philosophy is a joke.
It's for those who have nothing better to do.
>>9738120
the cat is plato
the dog is Nietzsche
your post is the koran
What does /lit/ think of CS Lewis?
A man who didnt have particularly good or solid reasoning but had lovely command of the English language.
>>9738065
Strong prose abilities, nice tips for how to live the Christian life (The Screwtape Letters), pretty shoddy theology ultimately, although not without some great ideas here and there. Enjoyed the Narnia books as a kid.
>“You may have noticed that the books you really love are bound together by a secret thread. You know very well what is the common quality that makes you love them, though you cannot put it into words: but most of your friends do not see it at all, and often wonder why, liking this, you should also like that. Again, you have stood before some landscape, which seems to embody what you have been looking for all your life; and then turned to the friend at your side who appears to be seeing what you saw -- but at the first words a gulf yawns between you, and you realise that this landscape means something totally different to him, that he is pursuing an alien vision and cares nothing for the ineffable suggestion by which you are transported. Even in your hobbies, has there not always been some secret attraction which the others are curiously ignorant of -- something, not to be identified with, but always on the verge of breaking through, the smell of cut wood in the workshop or the clap-clap of water against the boat's side? Are not all lifelong friendships born at the moment when at last you meet another human being who has some inkling (but faint and uncertain even in the best) of that something which you were born desiring, and which, beneath the flux of other desires and in all the momentary silences between the louder passions, night and day, year by year, from childhood to old age, you are looking for, watching for, listening for? You have never had it. All the things that have ever deeply possessed your soul have been but hints of it -- tantalising glimpses, promises never quite fulfilled, echoes that died away just as they caught your ear. But if it should really become manifest -- if there ever came an echo that did not die away but swelled into the sound itself -- you would know it. Beyond all possibility of doubt you would say "Here at last is the thing I was made for". We cannot tell each other about it. It is the secret signature of each soul, the incommunicable and unappeasable want, the thing we desired before we met our wives or made our friends or chose our work, and which we shall still desire on our deathbeds, when the mind no longer knows wife or friend or work. While we are, this is. If we lose this, we lose all.”
>>9738303
(continued)
I've noticed he's very popular with a lot of Christians I know, sort of their go-to one-and-only theologist, sometimes almost an extra Paul or something. The same kind of Christians who love Tolkien with all their hearts. Anyways. Worth reading.
>"Pains he may still have to encounter, but they embrace those pains. They would not barter them for any earthly pleasure. All the delights of sense, or heart, or intellect, with which you could once have tempted him, even the delights of virtue itself, now seem to him in comparison but as the half nauseous attractions of a raddled harlot would seem to a man who hears that his true beloved whom he has loved all his life and whom he had believed to be dead is alive and even now at his door. He is caught up into that world where pain and pleasure take on transfinite values and all our arithmetic is dismayed. Once more, the inexplicable meets us."
let's have some laughs
As the 21st century continues, how relevant do you think he will be?
>>9736862
Very.
I hope you've read him because it's going to be a wild ride, and he knows what we're in for.
Schopenhauerian pessimism is back baby!
>>9736877
>I hope you've read him because it's going to be a wild ride
How so?
>>9736479
Dont bring that shit, here take it back to /pol/. Hes a cuck who dosent understand the difference between private and personal property.
His book is apparently trash
>>9736479
>In a covenant concluded among proprietor and community tenants for the purpose of protecting their private property, no such thing as a right to free (unlimited) speech exists, not even to unlimited speech on one's own tenant-property. One may say innumerable things and promote almost any idea under the sun, but naturally no one is permitted to advocate ideas contrary to the very purpose of the covenant of preserving and protecting private property, such as democracy and communism. There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and expelled from society. Likewise, in a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, there can be no tolerance toward those habitually promoting lifestyles incompatible with this goal. They – the advocates of alternative, non-family and kin-centered lifestyles such as, for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism, nature-environment worship, homosexuality, or communism – will have to be physically removed from society, too, if one is to maintain a libertarian order.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TncilnIdiLk
he's fucken BASED
>When your dad asks you what "philosophy" is
>>9735733
Tell him that it's a meditation upon and a preparation for death.
Also,
>not having a retired dad who spends all his time watching documentaries about WW2 and especially the Nazis
pleb
>HUH? So it is about lions?
>>9735733
The prom king at my high school said these words:
"Hey man, you hear about Bobby? He's majoring in, like, Psychology or something, but not psychology, like about 'What is Life' and stuff."