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>>9767958
why not
>>9767957
boipucci
Literally who?
Pic related
I'm reading what I thought was relatively simple fiction and then this bullshit shows up. I don't expect anyone to understand this paragraph without a pencil and paper. I'm might just be a retart, though.
By this oblique motion the island is conveyed to
different parts of the Monarch's dominions. To explain
the manner of its progress, let AB represent a line drawn
across the dominions of Balnibarbi, let the line CD
represent the loadstone, of which let D be the repelling
end and C the attracting end; the island being over C,
let the stone be placed in the position CD, with its
repelling end downwards, then the island will be driven
upwards obliquely towards D. When it is arrived at D,
let the stone be turned upon its axle till its attracting end
points towards E, and then the island will be earned
obliquely towards E; where, if the stone be again turned
upon its axle till it stands in the position EF, with its
repelling point downwards, the island will rise obliquely
towards F; where, by directing the attracting end
towards G, the island may be carried to G, and from G
to H, by turning the stone, so as to make its repelling
extremity point directly downwards. And thus, by
changing the situation of the stone as often as there is
occasion, the island is made to rise and fall by turns in
an oblique direction, and by those alternate risings
and fallings (the obliquity being not considerable) is
conveyed from one part of the dominions to the other.
I imagine it's intentionally obtuse, but isn't too complex for someone with the right sort of visual imagination.
>>9767541
Was that shit written by an Anglo brain?
Who has read it?
Oh give it a rest for fucks sake man
>>9766648
lurking
Any famous ENTJ writer?
why is so hard for us to make art?
>>9766570
>falling for the Myers-Briggs meme
If you sincerely believe in that test you should leave this board immediately.
>>9766570
making art is hard for everyone though
>>9766635
not this shit again
it's not perscriptive, it makes no hypothesis or claim. it's purely descriptive.
the fucking abreviations are just collections of descriptive terms for fucks sake m8
just cause people like OP are retarded and think the terms define them rather than the other way around doesn't invalidate the myers-briggs personality types
>>9766570
also OP,
listen to
>>9766685
Are certain surahs more important than others? Is reading the Quran even the best way to get an understanding of Islam or are their better books?
I'm attempting to read the Quran to get a better understanding of Islam but reading it front to back is dry and repetitive.
What's there to understand about Islam? That it's a vile, murdering, primitive religion? That it's a perverted version of the Bible created by Mohammad to control his people and destroy his enemies?
Here's the traditional "Egyptian" chronological order of the Surahs:
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Chronological_Order_of_the_Qur%27an
Later Surahs are more important. The Qur'an is dry and repetitive by design. Remember Moses.
>>9765259
Like it or not it's one of the most important books/ideologies ever put to paper. Having an understanding of Islam gives you an insight into the lives of billions of people and how they've shaped the world for better or worse.
Just read this meme. It was great.
Wondering what is the equivalent book for Norse Mythology?
I want an encyclopedic type overview of general Norse mythos.
I want to accomplish two things.
1. Better debate edgy varg-posters.
2. Gain wisdom from the superstiotions of my ancestors.
>>9764675
>Wondering what is the equivalent book for Norse Mythology?
Mythology by Edith Hamilton
>>9764685
Did you read it? It really skimps on the Norse Mythology. Barely had two chapters iirc.
Read the Eddas
Whats your favourite Lovecraftian story or inspired piece.
I'm partial to the "Dunwitch horror" and "The thing on the doorstep" for stories and "The Mist" for an inspired movie.
Thoughts?
>>9763925
Why is Lovecraft so popular with normies?
They get him wrong every time
>>9763938
i just really enjoy his concepts
>>9763938
you mean they've haven't gotten to the "monsters really = niggers" level of understanding yet, is that what?
What is on his bookshelf /lit/?
I can only work out Stalingrad by Antony Beevor
communist manifesto x50
I spotted Nick Land and Mark Fisher. Suprised to see no Slavoj Zizek (rest in peace my Slovene brother)
>Those Tories have no idea whatsoever of what went on at Stalingrad. Although I can in no way compare my struggle reading it with that of the Red Army, it has been a very big read.
>dad always raved about Moby-Dick being one of the greatest literary works of all time
>put off reading it because I was worried I wouldn't be as excited over it
>he's now dying in the hospital
>start reading it to him on his deathbed
>it's fucking incredible
>I might have missed the chance to discuss my father's favorite book with him
Why the fuck did I put this off for so long?
>>9763269
>Americans
Kill yourselves, please.
Don't feel too bad about it.
Be glad you get to experience it the way you do now. Sound like a powerful experience.
>>9763271
>third-world euronigger dirt peasants literally cannot stop thinking about america
I've heard many people say that English is substantially less complex than the vast majority of indo-European languages; hence, making it considerably less flexible, nuanced, and more contextual as the result of all of this. While many others claim completely the opposite, saying it is the best human language that has gazillions of fucking words, - I personally tend to believe it is a myth - and I want to know who's in the wrong here.
Russian is better.
>>9747987
No language is more or less "complex" than another: structural complexity in one area is compensated by simplicity in another. For example, English has an utterly impoverished system of inflection (word endings to indicate grammatical categories), but its syntax is relatively fixed (more rules) to encode what would otherwise be done with inflection. In contrast, Latin has a vastly more rich inflectional system, and thus requires less syntactic rules (note that this could equally be thought of the other way around - i.e. English requires less inflection due to its syntactic rules)
Consider also the infamous Piraha, which, although purportedly missing some of the most basic and universal morphological and syntactic features of language, possess one of the most rich and complex systems of verbal inflection known. The point is, it's a give and take.
The larger issue at hand though is whether some languages are able to say things that others aren't. The answer is: no. All languages are capable of expressing the same meaning, although some translations may subjectively have greater aesthetic value. If we think of meaning as a space, all languages operate within that same space, although they each divide it differently.
Sources:
Pellegrino, François, et al. “A CROSS-LANGUAGE PERSPECTIVE ON SPEECH INFORMATION RATE.” Language, vol. 87, no. 3, (2011), pp. 539–558. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/23011654.
Lyons, J. (1971). New horizons in linguistics. Harmondsworth: Penguin; Introduction
Greenberg, Joseph H. (1963). Some Universals of Grammar with Particular Reference to the Order of Meaningful Elements. In Greenberg, Joseph H. (ed.), Universals of Human Language, 73-113. Cambridge, Mass: MIT Press.
Daniel L. Everett , "Cultural Constraints on Grammar and Cognition in Pirahã Another Look at the Design Features of Human Language," Current Anthropology 46, no. 4 (August/October 2005): 621-646.
>>9748576
>The larger issue at hand though is whether some languages are able to say things that others aren't. The answer is: no.
There are a lot of concepts in Russian English can't convey. Doesn't mean English isn't self-sufficient just like any other tongue tho.
>he thinks classics are actually good, despite having been exposed to preconceived notions telling him that they were good
Try thinking for yourselves, faggots. You make me fucking sick, the lot of you.
>he thinks his post is good, despite having been exposed to preconceived notions that he is clever
>>9768258
POOP FART ASS
>>9768258
Moby Dick is drawn-out, plodding shite.
Does it work?
>>9768250
Not /lit/
But yeah its great for learning grammar, although there's better websites for learning vocabulary like Memrise.
Once you reach around B1 level you should switch to learning from books and actual communication.
>>9768262
On grammar, if you're only using the app you can still learn the basics of grammar but you do miss grammar lessons available on the website. Before I took actual German classes I couldn't figure out why I kept messing up articles in different cases. The difference between the app with a book or the website and without a book or website is big in my opinion.
>>9768250
I definitely know more french and spanish than I did before. The vocalizations are good. I think that's important. It's not great, but it's free, and easy, and that's all you need to start. Later, switch to something else, or supplement it with children's books of that language, but I suggest using it in the beginning.
What's the booka equivalent of Birthday Song by 2Chainz?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y34jC4I1m70
>>9768155
being illiterate
>>9768155
The Great Gatsby. Focused on opulence, getting a big booty hoe, and cars. Throughout the video you see men dissatisfied or uninterested in women but the lyrics reference the unattainable ideal woman.
Black and African "Literature"
Why does lit always tell everyone to major in something practical but complain that no one makes good art anymore or write well etc...? Shouldn't we be telling smart people to go into the humanities in order to save it? It seems as though the current state of affairs in humanities departments and the general attitude toward humanities departments is what happens when the LCD of educated people stay there and propagate.
>>9767948
>going to school to make art
>>9767948
Different people give different advice...
If the path they took worked well for them they suggest it, if it went poorly they warn against it.
>>9767948
this: >>9767955
People are morons. Everyone wants art, but we've been conditioned to see creative arts as "lazy" and "useless" despite the fact that art has been around since before humans knew how to cook their food and has been instrumental in our understanding of the world.
See The And and the Grasshopper. Art IS important and artists DO provide a service. It's just that it's intangible, so people don't give a shit. It's the same reason people say depression isn't real.
Do you own any of the Wordsworth Classics and if so, how awful is the cover art?
When seeing shit like this I actually do judge books by their covers.
Middle-aged women throughout the world are racing to their closest gas stations for this steamy page-turner.
Dracula looks like it's written by R.L Stein. Do they actually think that these pictures look good or is it just stock images to save money?
I would be buying pretty much only Wordsworth if they had skipped the shitty "art".