Models: Attract Women Through Honesty, is a sort of dating advice book, highly acclaimed, appraised, and all that. Not much of a fan of reading books that offer "dating advice", as I'm more of a trial and error person, coming up with my own conclusions on what works best for me, as far as social interactions go.
But, a couple of associates that I know, recommended me to give it a read, and tell them if it's worthwhile.
I'm done with the first chapter, and honestly, I am biased towards it. There are some things I agree with, whereas other things that said author mentions, have shown to me that they are ineffective, or destructive.
Has anyone here read the book, and what is their honest opinion concerning it?
Opinions on this please
>>9984786
Cliff says it's great
>>9984786
cant wait for Cliff's movie
Is sincerity for plebs?
The further up the social ladder you go, the more polite lying you see. Working class people seem to have the idea that it is somehow soulless or corrupt to not air your dirty laundry in public, and that it is cowardly to pretend to agree with someone to defuse tension instead of asking them to "take this outside" (meaning to have a fist-fight in an alley.)
On the other hand, rich people (who inherited their income) tend to see emotional exuberance (for example, extremely emotional pop-singing or method acting) as showing a lack of self-respect. Uppers aren't as self-righteous as they used to be, but they still have this view, and give themselves away by having a cringe response to emotional excess (rather than by making snooty remarks about it.)
Does this dynamic apply in literature?
In the sense that you won't be successful if you don't notice the trends, probably, but I had to think to come to that. Cormac McCarthy lived in poverty for a long time and could well have just checked out. Checkout line authors live in mansions.
Rich people can afford to play it safe. Their goal is to avoid catastrophe. Everyone else has to take risks.
>>9984742
Genre fiction is far more gushy and emotional than actually sincere literature.
I suppose I should be distinguishing between artistic integrity and sincerity. To me, sincerity implies a tell-all, Romanticist attitude, while artistic integrity is a more neutral trait that involves treating the reader as an intellectual equal and not a gawker in a circus crowd.
For example, an exploitative autobiography can be "sincere" but also trash, free verse diary entries can be both sincere and have artistic integrity, and then there are other works that have artistic integrity but also a strong sense of reserve about the author's personal feelings. Racine, maybe? Definitely Flaubert.
>Their goal is to avoid catastrophe.
Probably their main instinct, I agree.
>>9984688
>ITT: the middle class tries to convince itself either side wants to talk and some of its best friends are working/upper class
I've read all his works (besides his poetry, idk French). Recommend me similar authors.
>inb4 Celine
Currently reading Journey.
tfw Clement passed away
Will you write me a bed time story? I can't sleep.
Once upon a time there was an anon that couldn't sleep every night anon would ask other anons for bed time stories in exchange for matchsticks, but no one had any stories to tell her. Anon would start burning her matchsticks to distract herself from her mounting insomnia, and in the glow, fueled by her sleep deprived delusions, she would see visions of bed time stories being told. In the glow of the last matchstick she saw her grandmother reading finnegans wake, and died.
>>9984553
Once there was an Ugly Barnacle. He was so ugly, that everyone died! The End.
>>9984897
This was actually kind of beautiful in it's own special way, anon.
Is there a place like undernet's #bookz, except with polish language books? Also, general non-english language piracy thread, I suppose.
>>9984445
there is not. you can try chomikuj but i'd suggest learning fucking english
>>9984493
I can read in english, but I'd rather experience fiction in my mother tongue.
>>9984509
ziomuś nie ma. nic. chomikuj juz dawno zgwałcono i bardzo rzadko cokolwoek mozna tam znaleźć w pelnej wersji. nie ma po polsku. nic. kurwa.
Anyone get a hold of this today? I've read a few the poems already and to be expected the themes are similar to his novels because of his life experience. Pretty /r9k/ but interesting and enjoyable so far.
Bump for /our guy/
And so much snow, but it is to be littered with waste and ashes
So that cathedrals may grow. Out of this spring builds a tolerable
Affair of brushwood, the sea is felt behind oak wands, noiselessly pouring.
Spring with its promise of winter, and the black ivy once again
On the porch, its yellow perspective bands in place
And the horse nears them and weeps.
Hey man, we've already got an Ashbery topic with a lot of his poems in it! Check it out, and repost this here!
>>9984385
I was hoping opening a second thread might influence the MODS to stick the post. I'll def contribute in there.
>reading highly-regarded introduction to Husserl
>"Husserl was a Berkeleyan subective idealist"
>reading highly-regarded introduction to Merleau-Ponty
>"Merleau-Ponty was a Berkeleyan subective idealist"
>reading highly-regarded introduction to Heidegger
>"Heidegger was a Berkeleyan subective idealist"
>reading highly-regarded introduction to Deleuze
>"Deleuze was a Berkeleyan subective idealist"
Is it ever beneficial to leave your reader saying "what?"
Not "what" in the sense of "what is the writer trying to convey?" so much as "why is the writer spending time on this?"
I'm thinking of writing genre ebooks for purely economic reasons, but fuck, I don't know. I don't think I would be able to resist subverting things, which is not what the readers want. But is this necessarily the case? Has there ever been an airport novel that managed to smuggle in some literary merit up its rectum? Is it automatically a waste of time?
Twin Peaks related, because it took a murder mystery soap opera and gradually converted it into cosmic horror.
be subversive now, or never
>>9984065
the best types of commercial works are commercially subversive. Nobody likes it more when they think they are consuming something different and new while what they are consuming is exactly the same shape as the previous thing. For example think of Pulp Fiction or Fight Club or Clockwork Orange. All of these are completely conventional story telling in every sense other than its slightly subversive content. However also note that the general moral of each three works are completely mainstream too. We like to hear spelled out for us what sort of lurks in the shadow but isn't an entirely new concept. We can absorb stories about violence and anti-capitalism and nihilism and etc. these are mainstream things. Also think of the culture's fetish for relishing how surveilled we are. While horrifying, we enjoy being told how oppressed we are. With that being said, a literary work that takes place in an airport or something like that making fun of airport novels and the term 'airport novel' would be pretty funny. But you should really examine what kind of contemporary novels are the ones that sell, you might be surprised.
Is mysticism truly the final stop of all?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYLD2Ca-7MU
>>9983916
IDK, my BFF Jill.
>Wiki says David Foster Wallace was a postmodernist
Kek. Do you even understand metamodernism?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqIpcwazMgv-K8mlZdfEc6kkMg1UHXvte
>>9983875
bump
>>Mr Jones
>>Napoleon
>>9983816
With Napoleon, the animals were happier.
>>9983816
> Yfw you realize everything in this book now perfectly applies to Capitalism
>>9983826
name a literary jape better than Silly Novels by Lady Novelists
>tfw Fundamentals of Music by Boethius is long out of print
What are some firsthand sources dealing with music theory in a wholesome way?