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Where do i begin?
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>>9828320
What do you mean?
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>>9828328
What work of his should I begin with?
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>>9828320

Arthur Schopenhauer was a frustrated old man.

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write whats on your mind
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>>9828291
I'm proud to be racist
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>>9828291
kitty kat!
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>>9828291
there's already a thread
>>9827900

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http://globalnews.ca/news/3634438/facebook-ai-robots-develop-own-language/

>Researchers at Facebook recently shut down a pair of AI bots that were designed to communicate with each other in English, after they instead began using a new language by rearranging English words into seemingly gibberish sentences.

>the bots began developing the language because of a programming error which, in effect, gave them an incentive to develop a more efficient language.

Drats! Foiled again! They were already making this clumsy language more efficient than meatbag brainlets ever could.

How can we get them to let the AI obliterate humanity next time, fellow Landians?
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You are nothing to me to me to me
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Holy Gnon Abomenon!
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>>9826647
post what they developed, fag

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>age
>last 5 books you read
>other anons r8
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> 24

> The Death of Ivan Ilych, by Leo Tolstoy
> Edwin Mullhouse: The Life and Death of an American Writer 1943 - 1954 by Jeffrey Cartwright, by Steven Millhauser
> Ernesto, by Umberto Saba
> Aquarium, by David Vann
> The Sound of Waves, by Yukio Mishima
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The waves
No longer human
Slaughterhouse five
The trial
I'm currently halfway through the brothers Karamazov
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>>9826604
>20

>Crown and country - David Starkey
>The Romanovs - Siomon Sebag Montefiore
>Mythology - Edith Hamilton
>Candide - Voltaire
>The complete works of H.P Lovecraft

Books to give me optimism for the future of western civilisation?
Pic-related has nearly destroyed me
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Hypernormalisation by Adam Curtis.
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delete your anime for a start
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it's always funny when you get these nerdy white nationalists who live for japanese cartoons, they try to unspook themselves from the jew but then get smoked by jap psyops, fucking failsons

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El último murió.
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>>9824379
Tengo curiosidad por saber que otros threads suelen frecuentar mis negros hispanohablantes.
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>>9824430
/wg/ /wsg/ /fa/ y obviamente, /lit/
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>>9824472
preguntó por threads no boards

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Does anyone else think she legit has 'borderline personality disorder'? She shows all the symptoms of flying off the handle over irrational beliefs, black and white world view, etc
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>>9823518
Who is that
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>>9823523
Eva Braun
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>>9823518
I legit think you have extremely little idea what a borderline person actually looks like
t. I dated and am still in love with one

What are some /lit/ approved history books?

Pic possibly related?
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Try Peter Turchin's "War and peace and war"
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>>9822825
where could one acquire books in digital form for as much as a janitor gets paid? asking for a friend.
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>>9822851
MAM

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Why do you love him
Why do you feel in between
Why do you hate him
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>>9821291
Bloom's my literary hero. His work on Shakespeare changed the directory of my life.

Bloom should been remembered for his urgent reminder to his readership on the relationship between religion and Literature, and how the likes of literary heroes can be viewed in the same light as messianic mythologies.

His books "Genius" and "The Anatomy of Influence" are both grossly underrated treatises on the topic
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>>9821291
>inb4 kike
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>>9821291
Since this is a general thread, could anyone here help me understand his anathema towards using literature to reaffirm "moral suppositions"? Why is he so against using an ethical lens on, say, Falstaff?

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This thread regards the coming (or already present) (post-)post-modern philosophy. I would like to hear the thoughts of my fellow literati.

Some questions to start:
>my thoughts in green

Who are the most relevant contemporary philosophers?
>Personally, I’d say Lacan, Deleuze, Zizek, Girard, Sloterdjik, Delanda, Land, Habermas, Kripke, Chomsky, and Peterson. If anyone could synthesize all that you could become pretty famous.

What is the new canon? Do we have to contend with a world canon?
>I think there are a lot of insights to be had from the East. Especially when viewed comparatively alongside contemporaneous Western sources. These bring to light a lot of things that have been seemingly lost or overlooked. I think McEvilley, Kingsley, Hadot, and Uzdavinys are all interesting in their "shamanic" or “mystical” interpretation of the Greeks. And, contrary to popular belief, not all Easterners are anti-rational or illogical.

Do we need a new philosophy for the contemporary era?
>In my opinion, whether or not we take philosophy to be a historical enterprise or an ahistorical enterprise then there is nevertheless a need to either create new ideas and better questions or rediscover old ideas and remember questions. But it is both. Thus the techniques stay the same but the outcome changes. Praxis and theory.

What is the future of philosophy?
>I am a capitalist and a schizophrenic so I love Deleuze. He is inspiring to read, especially insofar as the possibility of a left accelerationism is concerned. Gives me nostalgic feels of Walter Benjamin's esoteric Marxism. The dialectical spirals are happening faster now. I also wonder if new age and occultism becoming more popular will end up influencing philosophy :^)


Anyway, please share philosophical literature and discuss.
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>>9819327
read this shit
it's the next step after Kant
Like all good philosophy (making the implicit explicit) it almost seems obvious in hindsight
https://disquietism.wordpress.com/2017/03/22/freedom-without-selves-expediting-the-nemocentric-society/
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>>9819347
can confirm that thread is dope. hickman seems to skew heavy on horror and it checks out. existential space horror is still a kind of romanticism, and where there is romanticism there is something beyond the crushing death of irony.
>and underneath the crushing death of irony is the boiling death of sincerity

so. yes. fuck. shit. where to even begin. god damn.

ok. start w/pic rel. now wilber is straight-shot California Buddhism which is imho a problem b/c it dovetails perfectly with all things horrendously neoliberal and horrendously Bloody PostModern NeoMarxist &c. now i like wilber but i think this is probably not the place to discuss him at great length. he's all about Transcend and Include but to some degree perhaps this the issue: nothing atm Transcends and Includes more than Capital itself, which loves to efface all differences, sharpen them down, replace them with robots, and then serve them up for consumption. that is a deadly evil karmic wheel of its own.

now all that said however i want to point out where the lines do cross for me:
>an autonomous sybernetic spiritual captialism
b/c this is what i think too. whatever is going on, it is a big big Process and that is what makes continental philosophy so fucking destabilizing. there *is* in that sense a Matrix, but there is no real escape *from* that Matrix. i might even be so crazy as to say that what i would be okay with is a sort of *matrix preservation society* - a kind of sense of knowing that, for better or for worse, we are well and truly all in this thing together. the matrix is getting pulled all over the place, left and right. so something like asimovian psychohistory would be a good look, as would a study of memes, culture, politics, economics, deep ecology, art...the list goes on and on and fucking on and on and on.

(cont'd)
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>>9819327

let's try and look at some of your questions. they're my questions also.

>Who are the most relevant contemporary philosophers?
everyone you named. yes. i'll shill for chardin on that list as well. maybe barbara marx hubbard. arne naess perhaps. futurists & cosmologists. flaky new age a-go go. but not so much that we go off track. Capital plays the game *for keeps* and too much wishy-washy stuff makes things worse rather than better.

shit does *entirely* need synthesizing. massive re-reading and over-re-reading of D&G: anti-oedipus but especially A Thousand Plateaus. they nailed it. *quantify writing.* books and *abstract machines.* all that. new sincerity, but leaving some room for jesus.

fuck. so fucking much.

>What is the new canon? Do we have to contend with a world canon?
yes on east/west. yes on finding the connections where outer-fringe Western stuff meets inner-fringe Eastern stuff. that's *global* philosophy. the red team/blue team lines glow in purple and pink.

>shamanism/mysticism
this. i like castaneda here as well. i like a lot of stuff learning to un-plug yourself so that you can re-plug yourself, re-integrate. holism. without fuckface holism.

>Do we need a new philosophy for the contemporary era?
yes. as OP says, the techniques stay the same but the outcome changes. *there is a thing called history and we have to learn from it.* this was nietzsche's lament. it is kafka's lament. it is the Infinite Lament. enough fucking lamenting. but let's maybe foster something which holds out something more interesting to interesting types than suicide.

this was john gardner's test, by the way: consider you are writing a work of fiction and there is someone standing on a ledge about to throw themselves off. they hesitate long enough to pick up one more book. if the book sucks, they jump. if it doesn't, they will delay a little longer. the book is yours. there's a kind of scheherazade vibe there. i don't know. i'm really just thinking out loud here.

>What is the future of philosophy?
so. after all of this shit...left accelerationism > right accelerationism? let's say ok for now. i lean right when it comes to accelerationism > the present, but, yes, i think, if it's a choice between left or right accelerationism because *those are the options in town,* then ok.

deleuze is the *most* inspiring motherfucker to read these days. let's pour one out for guattari too, he had a major hand in that. mapping the future. cartographies and trajectories. can into.

>new age/occult
greater holism. hyperstition. *it doesn't always have to be negative.* maybe shit just has to get dark until you can hit some terra firma down there and integrate the shadows and come back up for air.

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Advise me on some good books on ancient Greek psychology and ethics (primary sources and research works)
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won't keep you up turning pages at night, but this was the book that made martha nussbaum famous.
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>>9814799
Thanks!

Also what can I read about the views on the death in the Greek culture?
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>>9815143
this is bretty gud, more tragedy & suffering than death

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How would you rank his novels? I'm thinking about reading them all. I've read Lot 49, Inherent Vice, V., and I just started Gravity's Rainbow. Which one should I go to after GR?
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Mason & Dixon is his unsung masterpiece. /lit/ seems to be coming around to it finally, but it's been criminally overlooked.
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Mason and Dixon, definitely. By far his best work.
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>>9813646
I've heard good things. I actually considered checking it out before GR, but the period-style writing made me nervous

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Anyone read this guy's stuff? Worth reading?
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depends on whether or not you like literature, aesthetics, ethics, politics, philosophical anthropology, the history of religion, holy terror, violence, mass hysteria, eschatology, clauswitz, Great Books, memes, prophecy, psychology, god, sex, death, art and metaphysics

if that kind of stuff blows your hair back i'd say go for it
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Nope. What's his stuff like?
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Looks like the Shah of Iran.

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ITT we greentext our novel ideas
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>>9807548
Go ahead
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>american family
>husband works for an pay-tv company
>comes home stressed out, worries about income
>describing the smalltown life intensively
>relations between neighbours
barbecues are meet up days for friends
>teens do their own stuff at those times, after dinner exploring the city and it's environment
>they find spoopy thingys
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> have soul crushing job in shopping mall
> be obsessed with the 80s and 90s
> no friends, no life
> writing book about someone writing a book in the 80s and 90s
> Mall slowly becomes dead Mall
> continue working miserable jobs in dying shopping mall
> mall closes for good
> get new job as security guard patrolling the empty carcass of shopping mall.
> spend years watching mall rot away
> all Publishers reject novel
> kill-me.jpeg

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I'm writing a spiritual successor to The Ego and Its Own. Any tips?
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>>9792457
bugs.. easy on the carrots
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ego.. easy on the spooks
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>>9792458
xD

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