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The
>translations
meme is probably my least favorite meme here. There are plenty of ebin maymays on /lit/ and they're usually somewhat humorous, but this one is probably the only one that has a real, deleterious effect on the quality of this board, in that it actively seeks to mock and discourage people from ACTUALLY READING BOOKS. People should not be mocked for actually doing things that would likely improve the overall quality of the board.
Of course it's not a "sincere" meme in its origins, but I'm starting to suspect a great number of newfriends are taking this meme way too seriously and immediately posting >translations wherever and whenever they can.
And I say this as someone who has reading fluency in 7 languages and read as many things in the original as possible. I will never ever discourage someone from reading a translation if that's the only option available to them, nor would I mislead them into thinking they should just expend their time on acquiring reading proficiency in new languages whenever they come across a new foreign book.
Pic related.
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I used to believe this then I read up on the politics behind Biblical translations.
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>>9835293
yea cause I'm sure you're now fluent in Hebrew ancient Greek and Aramaic now
retard
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>>9835189
>in that it actively seeks to mock and discourage people from ACTUALLY READING BOOKS.
no. it motivates people to learn other languages.
ALWAYS READ THE ORIGINAL IN ITS ORIGINAL LANGUAGE DONT TOUCH ANY FUCKING TRANSLATIONS MADE BY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO INSTILL THEIR IDEOLOGIES EVER SO SUBTLY INTO THE GREAT WORKS OF THE GREAT PEOPLES!!!!!
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>Ishmael isn't the main character
Can someone explain this meme to me? I keep seeing people say this.
also general Moby Dick discussion, I finally finished it this morning. it was great.
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>>9834973
The sea is the main character you dumb pleb
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>>9834973
If by "main character" you mean protagonist then that is Ahab.
Ishmeme is the fag narrator and stand-in for Melville's hysterical larping
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Ishmael is just a narrator character, a device for the story to function. Similar deal in Joseph Conrad's books, if you've ever read them. First person narrator, but the story is always about somebody else.
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How come all the best writers have thick heads of hair even in their old age?
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>>9834960
*blocks your path*
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lack of testosterone
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>>9834960
>Faulkner
>one of the best
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what does /lit/ think of Marilyn vos Savant?
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>>9834934
I've read her book on speeling.
It was quiet shit.
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The honest to God truth is that if she could write like Joyce, or compose music like Mozart, paint like da Vinci or think like Goethe or Leibniz she would. IQ just isn't enough. So is she smart? Yes. Is she a genius? Clearly no.
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>>9834934
cute af
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Must read self help books?
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>>9834898
the art of the deal
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>>9834898
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Thinking, Fast and Slow
The Road to Character
Emotional Intelligence
How to Win Friends and Influence People
7 Habits
The Power of Habit
Life-Changing Magic of Not Being A Slob
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What are your guilty pleasure reads, /lit/? When you should be exploring the nature of human existence or writing your own work, what are you actually indulging yourself with?
I've always been fond of trashy romance and fantasy books. Sometimes I play editor for them and dissect the piece page by page, but mainly I like having two or three drinks, putting on some music in the background, and reading as far as I can in one sitting. Some of them have some surprisingly good moments, while others are just plain awful. Wonderfully awful.
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Playing video games to turn my brain off.
Recommend me a couple fantasy books OP?
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I like to read a good fantasy, sci fi, or horror novel at the same time as the more serious books. At the moment I'm dividing my time between Lolita and The Name of the Wind. Both are great, but in obviously very different ways.
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>>9834928
I picked up Scimitar Moon when I met the author at a convention and it was good enough to make me pick up the rest of his books. It's fantasy on the high seas.
I found R. A. Salvatore's Dark Elf Trilogy to be quite entertaining, and in a similar vein, Prince of Wolves by Dave Gross was also pretty good. Both of these are D&D/Pathfinder books though, so ymmv depending on how much you like that sort of thing.
If historical fantasy is more your thing, try Newton's Cannon. The fantasy elements exist to enable the plot rather than take center stage, and while the plot is a touch predictable at times it's a fun ride.
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hace par de meses puse aqui en /lit/ unas mierdas escritas por mí quizás demasiado largas... en general decían que era una pretenciosidad absurda y horrible y una nadería y acabaron baneándome el thread porque supuestamente estaba spameando como si ganara algo porque par de perdidos en la inmensidad de internet lean mis mierdas... aún así pienso que son ramas y hojas serias... tengo un día desganado y sin nada hoy, sinceramente, como todos los putos enterrados del mundo y tengo ganas de esprender esta merda para que consiga matar alguna rama joven que germine en cualquier cosa..
>no hace falta que lean necesariamente desde el principio. podeis empezar donde queráis y saltar a donde queráis.
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https://dnhhrhrhhahaaa.blogspot.com.es/
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atitomanabamp
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ni un puto misero post, voy cerrando esta mierda
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Impresionante. Sigue íbamm . Me gustó bastante tu trabajo. Saludos desde el tercer mundo
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Epictetus on /lit/
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>i want to know how you practise attention
truthier truth was there ever
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>>9834825
One of the most fascinating realizations for me while learning history is that people really never change. There was probably some equivalent to /lit/ 2000 years ago. I can just imagine a Roman writing "Cicero is a fucking hack" on a bathroom wall somewhere.
That said, Epictetus is definitely great. Reading his discourses is what really helped me get my shit together after I started college, and helped me get through a breakup with a terrible girl.
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>>9834905
The most based Stoic.
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Where to start with her?
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>>9834816
She is an overpaid opinion progressive columnist from a wealthy English family.
Wipe your ass and look at the result. It will have more literary merit than anything she has ever written.
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>>9834816
the greeks
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I wonder why left sjw types always have the same body type and facial structure. Its like they transform to goblin type aesthetics. I can't be the only one who sees this?
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Just read this, it sucks. Why is Hemingway regarded as a good writer? Was this just a shitty book to start on ? Is there something better I should read or do all his books suck as much as this ?
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>>9834807
Why did you think it sucks?
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Another astounding take-down from the patricians of lit.
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>>9834807
>reads a book
>fixates after whether it was "good" or not
Not going to make it brah
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any good cute LGBT books/short stories?
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>>9834801
Gays don't take well to literature, it reveals too much of their nasty, narcissistic, superficial existence. I'd recommend sticking to visual media where such truths are left unexamined.
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>>9834812
did a gay guy piss in your cornflakes today, my man?
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yeah, lots
you can read all about them on your nearest search engine
what's the consensus on the old testament
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>>9834770
Second best religious text in history
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>>9834770
three quarters of it is ad people have bad things happen to them because they made god mad, mixed with questionable historical lit
A quarter of it is wisdom lit and psalms
And a little bit is ecclesiastes and job, which blows the first part out of the water
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It's pretty old, everyone argrees on that right?
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> want to write the next literary masterpiece
> only just 21
> no "life" experience
What are your thoughts about age and it's relation to writing when it comes to experience yaddi yadda
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age has nothing to do with it, it's all about talent. "life experience" is a meme; you either have the mental gifts to understand people, society, characteristics and motives; and the literary gift to set it down in good prose, or you don't.
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>>9834760
Joyce and Proust were bitchboys with little "life experience." It's not about how many countries you travel to, etc. but how thoughtful, introspective, and observant a person you are. Also, style has nothing to do with life experience, but everything to do with exposure to literature.
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>>9834760
Stop trying to write the "next literary masterpiece"
If you feel like you have something to say, and if you think there is a reader (as in an audience) for what you have to say, then write
>no guys getting cucked is beneficial and totally makes you a good person trust me
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That's Ulysses, not Anna Karenina.
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>>9834752
To be honest Karenin was pure reddit.
I don't even blame Anna. She wanted that wild Chad dick and she got it and then she died a totally /lit/ death.
Yes she paid the price but no woman should have to be shacked to pure reddit.
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whom art thou quoting
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Is it true, /lit/?
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Depends. If it is a fiction novel (of any streak, really), then yes to a degree. Not all fiction novels have a physical opponent (Catcher in the Rye, The Great Gatsby, etc.) or are action-packed *cough* Lord of the Rings *cough*. If it is a non-fiction (bios, textbooks), not so much, and if you are writing smut, just think of some lewds and make them lewder.
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Depends entirely on who you shop your novel to.
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>>9835856
Those books were all publishrd decades ago. Todays publishing standards are basicially "write a hollywood movie in prose"