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>>9843266
>Is suicide morally wrong?
no.

It would make my mother very sad, and then she would have no family.

I am honestly amazed by men who commit suicide when they have a wife and children.
I can't do it now and from what I understand about being a partner or even more a parent and being able to still take that final step is impressive.

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Dennis or Denis

I think you'll appreciate a guy flying to Heaven on a giant insect rather than a pegasus just in case if the insect gets tired then the guy can feed it his farts

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Tyler, Edward or Robert

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got any Kens?

Spinoza

>>9843237
Bible
Code of Manu

>>9843237
schopenhaur

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least favorite no doubt was the ship catalog but it's really not too long for it to put me off the rest of the book, definitely one of my favorite greek works

wanting to read aeschylus' prometheus bound next desu. want to read the oresteia too sometime.

> Patroclus' insults after beheading some Trojan dude
> "haha don't lose your head, my main man, haha this is crazy"
> body falls over
> "wow, I didn't know them there trojans were also skilled in acrobatics, wow they have such great poise lmao, do another trick then, dickhead"

Patroclus deserved what he got, desu.

>>9843214
I was somewhat siding with the Aecheans at first because they were failing and I felt awful about Achilles getting fucked over by Agamemnon, but by the end, when Achilles has killed Hector and intends to desecrate his body rather than return the body to his family I can't help but think Achilles was clearly an asshole all along.

Doesn't matter what you read, just read, and stop wasting your time here.

>>9843195
I find it hard to believe that Plato and Machiavelli are on the same level as Orwell.

>>9843199
but I'm already reading. atm I'm finishing The Republic

>>9843206
meh, I already studied them during high school so they're not really hard

Doesn't flow well

Get McDuff

>>9843158
nothing. P&V get the closest to the original Russian

dont listen to muh flow fags like this guy>>9843227

>>9843158
Just read it you fag it doesn't matter as much as you think

>>9842974
Not only have I read it, but I read the pictured version (ML Giant), same old dust jacket even. It's loads of fun, with Carlyle as if literally calling the play-by-play. Whenever a participant he dislikes gets killed off, Carlyle both addresses him and removes him 'from the stage' Vaudeville style, as if a longish cane is extended into the narrative to hook him by the neck and yank him gibbering into hell. It's weird (this playing critic or absurdly wrathful God) kind of like a cartoon, even, but famous (among other reasons) for C's hero-worship of Mirabeau. One detects Dickens' (moreso than say Emerson's) huge stylistic debt to Carlyle in this piece. There's nothing even remotely like it among history books.
One caution. Have a sense of the timing of events from the Tennis Court Oath to the death of Robespierre or you may feel lost in places.

>>9842974
It is a highly stylized and partisan account of the revolution, in high english prose; as such it is a joy to read.

For a more modern accounting, Citizens by Schama

>>9843698
Citizens is good, but really a kind of Howard Zinnification, and therefore only helpful if you know the traditional casting of events along with it.

>>9842972
It's an irrelevant point for most discussion anyway. If you simply agree that we are all brains in vats and move on with discussion then nothing changes.

Similarly the idea that we all live in a simulation poses no real change to experience because we have no means of doing anything with that information even if we could prove it.

>>9843008
So to 'solve' the scenario in a sense, can't you ask "what happens then if you kill yourself / when you die?" If you're a brain in a vat, it doesn't change anything of what death is; your brain is no longer running and you're dead. Killing yourself to get out of the simulation wont work because you would cease to exist in both worlds.

Like you said, we have no means of doing anything with that information. We all aren't in different simulations where the rules of universe are different, so we need to just move on with the discussion.

Traditionally, skepticism is couched in terms of lack of belief, not positive disbelief. Sometimes the Greeks called the latter negative dogmatism.

48 laws of power

>>9842962
>mass psychology
The propaganda portion of Mein Kampf and the documents of the Kims, Mao and Stalin.

>>9842962
The Crowd by Gustav le Bon is the OG book on mass psych

>female friend recommended this

dropped

>>9842902
I barely remember it, since I read it in middleschool, but I remember enough to know that it's not good. The plot hardly made any sense, and the writing is what you'd expect from a YA novel. It's basically a story about Nazi Germany with all the artificial feels that women love to consume.

>>9842903
She reads a lot and seems to have decent taste.

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>>9842890
>watch X-files for the 48time
>realise Duchovny means spooky in slavlanguages
>mfw Spooky Mulder is Spooky

>listen to Queen
>realise queen is faggot in slang
>freddie is faggot

>read Crime and Punishment
>empathize too much with Raskol'nikov
>have panic attacks as if I killed those 2 women

Nice.

>>9842884
Who, who and who?

Jim Acosta getting btfo'd by Stephen Miller and Bret Easton Ellis both? What a day.

>>9842891
Fuk u m8

>>9842869
Hey, I've never read Celine but intend to. What is Death on Credit like?

>>9842869
I wanted to read the Journey first, actually.

>>9842869
There isn't much like Celine but WS Burroughs is somewhat similar.

>>9842794
I agree, the Wake is much better

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>>9842794
yeah i mean life is a story told by a stupid guy full of noise and anger meaning nada right

>>9842794
It' just a bunch of references coated in really nice prose.
6.3/10 wouldn't quite recommend it

>>9842613
How the fuck should I know I don't even know what language you speak

>>9842623
Portuguese.

>>9842626
Read it in English if you are fluent. Wait until you can order one online or something. Use the time to get introduced to some of his easier work.